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| 15:08.15 | brlcad | hi kesha_ ltns! |
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| 15:51.51 | kesha_ | hi brlcad, I was not well. Doctor advised complete rest. Feeling better now. Back to work from today :) |
| 15:52.06 | kesha_ | Hows release work going ? |
| 15:52.57 | zero_level | kesha_ : release 7.24 happened yesterday ! |
| 15:55.10 | brlcad | kesha_: good to hear that you're better, send us a quick line to let someone know you're sick so we won't think that you're drunk in a hole somewhere! starting to get worried.. :) |
| 15:55.36 | brlcad | release is posted, announcements should be going out soon |
| 15:56.08 | brlcad | ``Erik: can you post windows binaries? or see if bob can? |
| 15:56.28 | zero_level | In the midst of this weather, things could be worse. Take care ! :-) |
| 15:56.45 | kesha_ | Mark knows about it. Who is working on Outreach department of release ? |
| 15:57.01 | brlcad | kesha_: okay, that's good to hear |
| 15:57.35 | kesha_ | zero_level: thanks :) |
| 15:58.57 | kesha_ | brlcad: If possible, add a small news about release to brlcad.org :) |
| 16:00.56 | kesha_ | I thought I would, but it seems I dont have access to edit that webpage. |
| 16:01.48 | ``Erik | brlcad: richard is using his windows machine and both bob and cliff are out so that office is locked... I'll ask richard if he can cook some |
| 16:06.50 | ``Erik | he says he'll try, but he's concerned that the build path will have his name in it |
| 16:07.02 | brlcad | kesha_: we have an extensive release process we follow... which includes updating the website |
| 16:07.43 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55780 brlcad/trunk/HACKING: automation and reduction. there are steps we're not doing, reflect on why and adjust: too many compiles. once we pass tests on trunk, make the latter checks be more simple. provide even more automation to include lines for creating new binary dirs and uploading release notes into them. also *automatically* update the README and NEWS files with a little bit of regex |
| 16:07.45 | Notify | magic. release is almost fully automatable into a script now... |
| 16:08.13 | brlcad | kesha_: but you certainly can help -- care to try and write some release notes here: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal |
| 16:08.25 | brlcad | a fresh voice would be nice |
| 16:08.56 | brlcad | ``Erik: heh, well the build path is going to have someone's name in it, right? |
| 16:09.02 | brlcad | what's he scared of? |
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| 16:11.41 | ``Erik | "the stigma of screwing it up" (after I called it "the credit and kudos for doing a release") :) I suggested trying to make a tmp type directory that doesn't have username in path, so he's going to give that a shot... we'll see what happens |
| 16:12.41 | brlcad | yeah, tell him it's something he can put in his accomplishments |
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| 16:13.46 | kesha_ | brlcad: I am reading that. Can you also provide me some links regarding the length, past release announcements etc ? |
| 16:14.06 | brlcad | kesha_: as short as possible while being as informative as possible :) |
| 16:14.19 | brlcad | all of the previous announcements are on the website |
| 16:14.32 | brlcad | and on sourceforge in the news section |
| 16:15.53 | kesha_ | I am very fond of this task. I had once contributed for KDE's outreach, an article for dot about the annual KDE meetup - http://dot.kde.org/2013/03/07/kde-meetup-2013-india |
| 16:16.35 | kesha_ | Cool, I will look at them :) |
| 16:18.00 | brlcad | kesha_: we can work on it together this time around |
| 16:18.53 | brlcad | we need to get back to publishing outreach articles weekly, so there's a lot of possibilities |
| 16:19.24 | brlcad | an outreach manager would be a role I'd like to see someone eventually fill |
| 16:22.06 | brlcad | for the announcement, a summary or reworking of our release notes is usually a starting point |
| 16:23.32 | brlcad | we usually need a detailed long version (for the website and some news channels), the same length or a shorter version for our mailing lists, and a 1-paragraph short summary (for other news channels) |
| 16:24.02 | brlcad | along with one image that embodies the article |
| 16:25.47 | kesha_ | Ok. So has anyone started preparing anything for the same ? Or shall I start upon it ? |
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| 16:33.17 | brlcad | kesha_: suggest just starting on it and we can see how it evolves |
| 16:33.23 | kesha_ | inspired by reading interviews of Andrei, Phoenix, Jordi Sayol :) Loved listening them. |
| 16:34.07 | kesha_ | brlcad: great ! (y) |
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| 16:48.19 | ``Erik | cool, git mirror is back to updating O.o (dang perl issues) |
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| 16:55.13 | starseeker | kesha_: which interviews were those? |
| 16:57.27 | starseeker | on the Community Portal page? |
| 17:03.37 | kesha_ | starseeker: yes. |
| 17:04.14 | kesha_ | Their experience, their journey description.. |
| 17:05.10 | starseeker | cool (was wondering if someone had interviewed them with audio for a tech radio show or some such :-) |
| 17:06.54 | kesha_ | We can have it from now onwards ;) *Its never too late to mend* :D |
| 17:12.45 | ``Erik | huh, even rhel is switching from mysql to mariadb |
| 17:24.49 | brlcad | nobody likes oracle |
| 17:25.26 | zero_level | hi do we have some protocol for number of arguments in a library funcnction ? |
| 17:30.26 | zero_level | *function ? |
| 17:30.50 | ``Erik | brlcad: richard is going to try to upload to sf this evening if it builds ok, do you want him to send you an email when it happens? |
| 17:31.12 | ``Erik | (he wants someone to doublecheck/approve) |
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| 17:33.57 | ``Erik | (whups, he doesn't seem to have the ability to add a file to sf) |
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| 18:39.55 | brlcad | ``Erik: sure he can just upload it |
| 18:40.08 | brlcad | I already uploaded release notes, just needs the installer |
| 18:42.21 | brlcad | ``Erik: he now also has the ability to upload files |
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| 19:25.09 | maths22 | brlcad: once this is released, should I create a new VM image? |
| 19:26.14 | brlcad | maths22: that would be really awesome |
| 19:26.28 | brlcad | you worked on that for GCI as well, yes? |
| 19:26.51 | maths22 | I think so; it was my last task. |
| 19:27.08 | brlcad | yeah, me too |
| 19:27.39 | brlcad | that would be really great, you can even spruce it up if you like, try to make it even better |
| 19:28.07 | brlcad | brl-cad logo as the desktop background would be cool if it's not already |
| 19:28.22 | maths22 | actually, I had done the qemu testing one |
| 19:28.32 | maths22 | caen23 did the vm one |
| 19:30.11 | maths22 | I will have to start from the existing one, as caen23 never uploaded the enormous original file |
| 19:30.20 | maths22 | his modifed version, that is |
| 19:30.26 | maths22 | the logo is the background alread |
| 19:30.42 | maths22 | y I will have to take a look later |
| 19:30.53 | maths22 | When do you expect the release to be ready? |
| 19:42.47 | brlcad | maths22: release is already tagged and uploaded |
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| 19:42.58 | brlcad | just haven't sent out announcements yet |
| 19:43.32 | brlcad | for the VM, suggest just having it have a checkout of the STABLE branch |
| 19:43.45 | brlcad | it'll have to get updated for the new sf.net URL anyways |
| 19:44.21 | brlcad | putting it on stable should give a good baseline for testing and help make future updates just a matter of updating the checkout to whatever the latest stable is |
| 19:44.28 | brlcad | otherwise latest trunk works too |
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| 19:45.55 | brlcad | kesha__: how goes it? |
| 19:55.44 | kesha__ | brlcad: good, am going through previous releases of BRL-CAD, other release from different orgs as well as googling about some stuff related to it..I will prepare the draft report 2moro. Tonight I will be reading about this stuffs. |
| 19:55.49 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55786 brlcad/trunk/TODO: more completed tasks including Skriptkid's work implementing thread affinity for posix threading. decided stashing a matrix as an attribute was a bad idea (bad analysis results on older versions). release steps now have automatic update steps. |
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| 20:12.56 | maths22 | Ok. I forgot that I don't need an installer |
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| 20:24.09 | maths22 | I probably won't be able to work on this for about 2 weeks, but I will get started once I am back in town. |
| 20:26.14 | brlcad | kesha__: eep, we need to post the announcement immediately, I thought you were writing! :D |
| 20:27.18 | brlcad | maths22: you mean an installer for the VM image? |
| 20:27.53 | brlcad | maths22: that's cool if you can't get to it now, there's always more work to be done :) |
| 20:28.19 | brlcad | your efforts on the website have been awesome all around, you interested in taking up a redesign? |
| 20:28.48 | brlcad | there were several very interesting GCI prototypes, I'm sure we can come to a design consensus |
| 20:29.59 | zero_level | brlcad: are u talking about brlcad.org ? |
| 20:30.04 | ``Erik | brlcad: I left at 1400, he was attempting to contact you via email... might be waiting until monday if he's already left |
| 20:31.08 | zero_level | ``Erik did u see my patches ? |
| 20:31.20 | zero_level | i am about submit one more! |
| 20:31.34 | zero_level | ^to |
| 20:34.09 | ``Erik | brlcad: seem to be .exe files uploaded O.o :) guess he succeeded |
| 20:34.15 | ``Erik | zero_level: not yet |
| 20:34.38 | zero_level | ``Erik will u get some time today ? |
| 20:37.17 | maths22 | I will take a look at a redesign. I also wonder if we could unite the drupal and mediawiki as truly one site. I'm not yet sure how to do it. |
| 20:37.29 | maths22 | I meant a brlcad installer. I forgot the vm uses source :) |
| 20:39.22 | kesha__ | brlcad: oops ! I just love near deadlines- it makes my potential twice from before ;) |
| 20:43.03 | brlcad | ``Erik: yep he did, awesome |
| 20:43.08 | brlcad | hopefully they work well enough |
| 20:43.27 | brlcad | he was unhappy that grouper wasn't working, but that was a change that had to be reverted for release (broke -abc options) |
| 20:44.00 | brlcad | zero_level: a lot of patches will be reviewed today and this weekend, so give them another checking to make sure they are *perfect* |
| 20:44.04 | brlcad | especially style |
| 20:44.08 | brlcad | kesha__: :) |
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| 23:38.38 | maths22 | I looked at the new readme; what executeable is archer/mged |
| 23:38.48 | maths22 | both archer and mged existed in the last release |