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00:31.18Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57347 brlcad/trunk/src/other/CMakeLists.txt: Make sure stepcode's directories are the same as ours.
00:33.27Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57348 (brlcad/trunk/src/other/stepcode/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/other/stepcode/include/CMakeLists.txt): If we're using SC_BINARY_DIR to generate these files, need to use it for the install rule too - SC_BINARY_DIR doesn't always equal CMAKE_BINARY_DIR
01:35.44Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57349 (brlcad/trunk/src/other/stepcode/doc/man/man1/fedex_plus.1 =================================================================== and 178 others): Whoops - rename man page.
02:18.10Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57350 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man3/en/CMakeLists.txt: Update name of extra manpage output for bu_ntohd.3
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02:49.27FLOSSrookieIn order to become proficient with brlcad will I need to learn Tcl?
03:03.20brlcadFLOSSrookie: nope
03:03.39brlcadit just happens to be the embedded command interpreter
03:04.00brlcadlike how AutoCAD has a lisp command interpreter, you certainly don't need to learn lisp
03:04.56brlcad``Erik: thanks
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04:06.52FLOSSrookieMy Internet connection is just horrible. So, if it says disconnected you will know why.
04:06.52FLOSSrookieIn order to become proficient with brlcad will I need to learn Tcl?
04:07.24FLOSSrookieI'll ask tomorrow if no one is here.
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05:33.13Notify03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 57351 brlcad/trunk/src/libicv/TODO: Comments in icv.h have been aligned to 70 col. (Thanks sean).
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10:50.29Ch3ck_brlcad: all corrrections I made to the applied patches are in patch 231
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11:09.03Ch3ck_brlcad: checked the bn_poly_sub() routine and the values generated by octave I use as reference and different from those generated by bn_poly_sub() routine in poly.c
11:10.03Ch3ck_wondering whether bn_poly_sub() could actually be wrong?
11:17.03Notify03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 57352 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/presentations/en/brlcad-app-devel.xml: add remainder of missing code
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11:55.28Notify03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 57353 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/resources/brlcad/brlcad-article-fo-stylesheet.xsl.in =================================================================== and 80 others): add style sheets specifically for DocBook article types
11:56.42Notify03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 57354 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/CMakeLists.txt: add new style sheets to configuration list
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13:10.38Ch3ckhas finished testing regression test for pull
14:10.00Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57355 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/articles/CMakeLists.txt and 5 others): Add purpose-specific stylesheet templates for the various documentation types we have present (just copies of the previous generic ones, for now) and rework CMake logic so each document type is setting up its own stylesheets.
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15:27.46brlcadCh3ck: okay, cool -- will try to give it a look over this weekend, but can you investigate the bn_poly_sub difference -- find an equation with an exact/known solution, and compare
15:31.32Notify03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57356 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man3/en/CMakeLists.txt: remove bu_htond.xml per Sean's suggestion - leaving the set_source_files_properties example in place as a comment, in case future xml man pages are used to generate multiple outputs.
15:50.32Notify03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 57357 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/en/attr.xml: add COPYRIGHT section
16:08.54brlcadstarseeker: was all of the important info from the manpage in doxygen?
16:08.59brlcad(bu.h)
16:15.17keshabrlcad: Sorry for being so late. I had successfully compiled, build, ran from source and read the manual on conversion. Then, I was playing with different geometry in mged, as I gave a quick glance to manual 2 on Mged.
16:16.24keshaFor conversion between geometry, when I try it says "Reading Data from file.g ... " and the process continues for long time
16:16.44keshastep-g -o stepout.stp /home/kesha/brlcad/build/share/db/ktank.g -> this is what I tried
16:17.06keshaI waited for an hr, and then closed it. Am I going in right direction ?
16:17.57keshaApprox in how much time does a conversion complete ? Does it take hours ? :O
16:20.26Notify03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 57358 (brlcad/branches/attr-extension-mods/NEWS brlcad/branches/attr-extension-mods/TODO and 96 others): sync this branch with trunk rev 53577
16:34.43brlcadkesha: no, you're doing it wrong
16:34.58brlcadwhat does step-g do?
16:35.43keshaoops , shit ! I just realized I had placed input in place of output and vice versa
16:36.12keshaIt converts step to g.
16:36.30keshaNot g to step . my bad.
16:36.51brlcadhave you successfully used one of the other converters?
16:37.33brlcadyou should do that first, with at least two others just to give you some quick perspective that you'll know what to expect
16:37.34keshaThis is the first I am trying. First try with some non-step ?
16:37.39Notify03BRL-CAD:indianlarry * 57359 (brlcad/branches/nurbs/NEWS brlcad/branches/nurbs/TODO and 100 others): Merging trunk into branch 'nurbs' r:57224:57357
16:37.49brlcaddo you need another checklist? :)
16:37.50keshaascii ?
16:37.54brlcadi said that a couple days ago
16:38.21brlcadwhat other importers are there?
16:39.31keshag-acad, g-dxf, g-euclid, g-iges, g-stl etc
16:39.37keshaexporters
16:40.08keshaand interchanged *-g importer
16:40.32brlcadhad me worried for a second
16:40.39keshalike dxf-g enf-g euclid-g iges-g
16:40.40brlcadyes the *-g are the importers
16:41.31brlcadso pick a few of the importers, say dxf-g, 3dm-g, and stl-g
16:41.45brlcadfind some geometry, import them, view them
16:42.06brlcadyou need to know what you're importing to know whether it imported correctly
16:42.18brlcadso you need a picture or need to open it in some other program
16:42.24brlcadmake sense?
16:42.27keshawhat do you mean by "view" exactly ?
16:42.33brlcadi mean look at it
16:42.36brlcadsee what the geometry looks like
16:42.44brlcadthis is 3d geometry, so it better look like something 3d ;)
16:42.50keshain mged/archer ?
16:42.52kesha:P
16:43.04brlcadthat's one of many ways to look at it, sure
16:43.27brlcadif you've read IV and parts of II, you should know how to look at it
16:43.36brlcadif you don't, ask questions
16:44.09brlcadarcher+rt or mged+rt are perfectly viable to view the import
16:44.51brlcadbut again, its' not just to look at it -- it's to understand what you imported, how you specified that import, what hierarchy resulted after import
16:44.58brlcadyou'll notice each of the tools is a little different
16:45.29brlcadmged file.g ls
16:45.31brlcadmged file.g tops
16:45.48brlcadmged file.g tree some-top-lvl-obj
16:46.03brlcadmged file.g rt some-obj
16:46.10brlcador you can do that all within mged/archer
16:46.19brlcadcomprendes?
16:46.53keshaokay. I am trying
16:47.14keshadon't know spanish
16:47.32keshaUnderstood
16:48.50brlcadgreat
16:48.54brlcadso try that for a bit
16:49.01brlcadgrabcad.com has a ton of stuff
16:49.48brlcadgoogle can give you lots of stuff (just search for "filetype:obj truck" or "filetype:dxf boat" for example)
16:50.03brlcadand there's a bunch in that url I gave you earlier, brlcad.org/private/geometry
16:50.59brlcadonce you're comfortable and AFTER you've used three other converters, give the step-g importer a try on something 1) using 7.22.0 then 2) using trunk
16:51.14brlcadplease write this all down if you're not going to remember....
16:52.18brlcadplease ask questions, encourage you to, but having to repeat the exact same info would get very frustrating ;)
16:52.25brlcadsounds good?
16:52.34keshasounds great :)
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19:42.08whyessebrlcad: ok I tried making a version of nmg_extrude_face that returns the new faceuse it created, and then calling it twice
19:42.55whyessebrlcad: then converted an extrude to stl. looks like the face got made in the right place, but the edges are hooked up wrong
20:31.49``Erikthere's a src/conv/Formats.csv that is probably way out of date, but is a quick view of importers and exporters
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22:14.43FLOSSrookieJust how does BASIC fit in in the open source community? Or is it mainly a hobby language anymore?
22:14.44FLOSSrookieIn order to become proficient with brlcad will I need to learn Tcl?
22:19.35FLOSSrookieI continually get berated on the Internet every time people discover that Tcl is on my to-do list. And it is only there because I thought it might be useful with brlcad.
22:21.15FLOSSrookieHurry before this junk AT&T connection goes down.
22:50.22``ErikBASIC doesn't fit any more, it's mostly a historic artifact... tcl is "mostly obsolete" by most OSS weenies standards
22:54.14FLOSSrookie``Erik: I apologize, I do not know how I accidentally pasted that first line. That was for the freebasic forum. I am so sorry.
22:54.14FLOSSrookie``Erik: My main question was those last three lines.
22:54.14FLOSSrookieSo would it be wise to learn Tcl for use with brlcad?
22:57.28FLOSSrookieI do not want to learn too many languages. Especially learning one just to work with one program which then may not be used elsewhere.
23:08.16FLOSSrookieJust how is Tcl used in brlcad anyway? Is it just the mged window or can Tcl be used for scripting things inside brlcad?
23:14.05FLOSSrookieAnyone?
23:28.31mpictorFLOSSrookie: if you google "brl-cad scripting", you'll get some results. Looks like perl is more popular
23:29.03mpictoralso, you might want to ask on a weekday - more people are active then
23:31.41FLOSSrookiempictor: So any scripting language can be used, right?
23:32.06FLOSSrookie"in classic console mode without a GUI, which is perfect for scripting from most any language including Perl." http://brlcad.org/wiki/Spiral
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