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| 07:02.12 | inderplus_ | harmanpreet: I was looking into GET bug, can you point me to a specific large enough file which produces that bug. It would really help me. |
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| 11:09.22 | andrei__ | Hello |
| 11:43.02 | ``Erik | oi |
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| 14:49.26 | harmanpreet | inderplus_: You can reproduce that nug by uploading the file: /usr/brlcad/dev-x.y.z/share/db/havoc.g |
| 14:49.45 | harmanpreet | *bug |
| 14:49.49 | inderplus_ | Thanks :) |
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| 15:48.11 | richa | Please give some reviews on http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Richajain1912/GSOC2014/ |
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| 16:12.10 | gaganjyot | jasleen: hi |
| 16:12.21 | gaganjyot | inderplus_: ping |
| 16:12.43 | jasleen | gaganjyot: hello |
| 16:12.44 | inderplus_ | gaganjyot: hi |
| 16:13.03 | gaganjyot | jasleen: what's the status of LibreCAD |
| 16:13.07 | inderplus_ | gaganjyot: had a look at proposal, looks great! |
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| 16:13.19 | gaganjyot | are there any other project ideas ? |
| 16:13.28 | gaganjyot | Oh thanks inderplus_ :) |
| 16:13.47 | inderplus_ | isn't it late to introduce project ideas now ? |
| 16:14.00 | gaganjyot | inderplus_: even you please submit your proposal ASAP |
| 16:14.10 | inderplus_ | yeah, writing it as you speak |
| 16:14.11 | gaganjyot | I'd like to see it |
| 16:14.16 | inderplus_ | sure! |
| 16:14.41 | inderplus_ | Stay tuned to mailing list for about 90 minutes |
| 16:14.43 | inderplus_ | ;) |
| 16:15.02 | gaganjyot | inderplus_: I was just confirming if there are any other project ideas :) |
| 16:15.12 | gaganjyot | inderplus_: Oh sure! :) |
| 16:15.35 | jasleen | gaganjyot: dli has proposed 2 projects for current code |
| 16:16.04 | inderplus_ | jasleen: librecad proposals will go to wiki too ? |
| 16:16.08 | gaganjyot | jasleen: you mean smart snap and units project? |
| 16:16.13 | inderplus_ | just like brl-cad proposals ? |
| 16:16.32 | jasleen | gaganjyot: yes, they are in wiki |
| 16:17.10 | gaganjyot | jasleen: alright :) |
| 16:18.03 | inderplus_ | what about python scripting project for Librecad, it had a good priority, a year back. |
| 16:19.11 | jasleen | inderplus_: Currently main focus is for LC3 kernel |
| 16:19.24 | inderplus_ | jasleen: Great! |
| 16:19.32 | gaganjyot | inderplus_: Since the code is to be rewritten |
| 16:19.47 | inderplus_ | so will LC2 be discontinued ? |
| 16:20.03 | gaganjyot | I guess the bindings created for LC2 wont be useful |
| 16:20.20 | gaganjyot | inderplus_: no plans to discontinue it yet |
| 16:20.47 | gaganjyot | A lot of work is to be done on LC3 |
| 16:20.59 | gaganjyot | so as to make it for a release |
| 16:21.23 | inderplus_ | gaganjyot: Ok! :) Good Luck! Will try to be of some use. |
| 16:21.39 | inderplus_ | I will try to be of some use. |
| 16:21.40 | inderplus_ | :P |
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| 16:58.18 | ``Erik | hm, for those who email the mailing list and plan on talking here, it may be helpful to indicate IRC name in the email or state your email name in IRC, so'z we can make the connections a little easier :) |
| 16:59.50 | ``Erik | albertcoder: have you read up on the previous efforts for the material database? if you have questions/concerns/ideas, blurt them out... we're pretty chill and relaxed here :) |
| 17:03.11 | albertcoder | well I have not read it up but would be pleased if I get the link |
| 17:04.04 | richa | harmanpreet: I tried to give the upload option on model_display.php but that upload form is not working on this model viewer page |
| 17:04.23 | richa | harmanpreet: Why so? |
| 17:05.44 | ``Erik | albertcoder: there's no single link of everything for it, it'll take a bit of research.. iirc, it was worked on in a previous gsoc, with the original work being an effort by a non-gsoc non-BRL-CAD third party... sorry, dude, can't tell you the exact page, but there is stuff out there |
| 17:06.16 | ``Erik | albertcoder: feel free to create a wiki page about it to help collect it all together, that'd be handy :D |
| 17:07.29 | ``Erik | richa, harmanpreet: I believe php has a default maximum upload size that is pretty tiny, might be worth looking at? |
| 17:07.40 | albertcoder | Erik:that's fine.I will do. |
| 17:08.19 | harmanpreet | albertcoder: last year, Sean gave this link to a GSoC student regarding previous work of material database: http://brlcad.org/design/material.tar.gz |
| 17:08.43 | ``Erik | awesome, thanks harmanpreet! :) |
| 17:09.11 | albertcoder | thanks from me too :) |
| 17:10.24 | harmanpreet | ``Erik: You are right, but richa's problem is different I think. |
| 17:10.27 | richa | ``Erik: But that same upload form is working on another page, so I think thats a different issue, harmanpreet may be able to tell this exactly |
| 17:10.50 | harmanpreet | richa: any errors you got? |
| 17:11.11 | beriukay | hey, I sent an introduction yesterday to the mailing list. I'm Paul. |
| 17:11.50 | richa | harmanpreet: no errors but i cannot choose any file |
| 17:13.03 | ``Erik | richa, harmanpreet: is this on bz? if so, I can offer a little superuser help if you need it for researching the issue... sorry for the noise about php upload limits, didn't realize you were beyond it :) |
| 17:13.27 | ``Erik | hi, Paul! |
| 17:13.43 | harmanpreet | Erik: but the previous work of material database project is not usable at all I think (I may be wrong). People interested in this project may propose their fresh ideas. |
| 17:14.23 | harmanpreet | Erik: bz? |
| 17:15.04 | ``Erik | harmanpreet: it's a nontrivial task just to figure out how to define a material, thus the interest in building ontop of previous work... |
| 17:15.16 | ``Erik | harmanpreet: bz is an old name for the brlcad.org server |
| 17:15.24 | ``Erik | aka bz.bzflag.bz |
| 17:15.43 | harmanpreet | ``Erik: richa has working copy on her machine. |
| 17:15.55 | richa | harmanpreet: Should I send you a pull request and then you review that? |
| 17:16.24 | ``Erik | cool, I'll shut the hell up then! :D good luck figuring it out |
| 17:16.35 | richa | harmanpreet: It may be difficult to figure out the problem like this |
| 17:17.50 | harmanpreet | richa: you can check your logs for any errors. |
| 17:18.31 | harmanpreet | webservers like apache keep their logs for any errors / problems in webpages/ web applications. |
| 17:18.53 | albertcoder | Erik: I have an idea for materials database project,may be that can help. How about integrating periodic table (with all elements) to our web interface? I guess that might be of substantial help for determining the traits of materials if we work a bit on it. |
| 17:19.35 | beriukay | So, having no experience with BRL-CAD, is there any use for GLSL within this project? |
| 17:21.08 | ``Erik | albertcoder: I dig that you're thinking first princepals, but it gets sooo much more complicated and pure elements are kinda rare... take, for example, stainless steel.. mostly composed of iron (Fe), carbon (C) and a little bit of chromium (Cr), right? but the brinell hardness is greater than any of those three materials... |
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| 17:22.43 | ``Erik | or glob oxygen, carbon and hydrogen together... organic chemistry, right? and a bajillion "plastic" materials can be created from those three elements |
| 17:24.17 | ``Erik | beriukay: there's been a lot of discussion on writing an alternative raytracer using the GPU, as well as all the shaders |
| 17:25.21 | beriukay | thanks, I'll look for that |
| 17:25.47 | albertcoder | Erik: yeah you are right indeed. Anyway I feel we can have a bit of advantage doing that. So that it might help to get the data for simple pure elements in detail. :) |
| 17:27.27 | albertcoder | Erik: anyway it would be easy for me to get start if you could explain about the basic structure we want for this project . |
| 17:27.39 | ``Erik | *shrug* all'z I can do is offer advice, and I'm not always right :) |
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| 17:28.15 | andrei__ | ``Erik, are you familiar with rt^3 branch? |
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| 17:29.18 | ``Erik | albertcoder: there are a set of measurements that are deemed 'useful' for materials... things like tensil strength, sheer strength, y modulus, density, brinell hardness, etc etc etc... the idea behind the material database is to try to build a public repository of this info |
| 17:29.28 | ``Erik | andrei__: yeh? |
| 17:30.28 | andrei__ | did you happen to take a look on my proposal? It's just a sketch so any feedback would help. Thanks! |
| 17:31.38 | ``Erik | nope, haven't looked at any proposals at all :D |
| 17:32.17 | ``Erik | do you have a URL for what you want me to look at? |
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| 17:37.12 | andrei__ | sure |
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| 17:37.43 | andrei__ | there |
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| 17:43.48 | albertcoder | Erik: About how many parameters like bulk modulus,tensile strength etc. have to be defined specifically? I guess these can be derived as many as we would desire. Or do we have to care for only fundamental ones? |
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| 17:46.20 | ``Erik | albertcoder: that's the hard part :D I think there're roughly 20 or so that the primary consumer of BRL-CAD likes to have that are zomfg material parameters (they also have large tables of very specific parameters... like "ice cream has a specific sweetness of 3, but ice cream with a banana has a specific sweetness of 3.1") |
| 17:47.48 | ``Erik | I can't comment on the useful subset of material properties for that certain app, so my best advice would be to think towards extensibility? |
| 17:48.46 | albertcoder | Erik: yeah fine :) |
| 17:49.11 | ``Erik | I'm sure brlcad or starseeker could do a better job of providing a list of "useful" baseline attributes, but it might take them a while |
| 17:50.00 | gaganjyot | ``Erik: just an opinion, since we don't know the exact tables and columns under each table, we can have a look at database which stores as key and value |
| 17:50.14 | gaganjyot | ``Erik: like this one www.mongodb.org |
| 17:50.24 | albertcoder | Erik: that's fine too. |
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| 17:53.10 | ``Erik | gaganjyot: I don't believe there is any hard requirement for relational database, a NoSQL db alternative might be just fine... the trick is to find out the data to be stored and pick the right backend |
| 17:53.53 | ``Erik | mongodb is already on the server, it'd be trivial to install cassandra, tokyo cabinet, etc... |
| 17:55.02 | gaganjyot | ``Erik: I see |
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| 17:56.21 | ``Erik | but it's very important to let the task pick the tools, not the other way around... do not fall into the "all I have is a hammer, therefor every problem is a nail" trap |
| 17:57.14 | ``Erik | a competent developer would end up taking more time forcing a solution using wrong tools than they would learning the correct tools... |
| 17:57.58 | inderplus_ | ``Erik: Could not agree more! |
| 17:58.13 | ``Erik | (which is why all c++ projects take way too long *cough* *duck*) |
| 17:58.14 | gaganjyot | inderplus_: yes :D |
| 17:59.07 | inderplus_ | It must be co-incidence that we use same Example in Linux User Group Ludhiana's seminars :P |
| 17:59.47 | inderplus_ | Now I have one more developer to back this view :) |
| 17:59.56 | ``Erik | which example is that? |
| 18:00.03 | inderplus_ | Hammer and Nail! |
| 18:00.14 | ``Erik | heh, it's a standard meme |
| 18:00.42 | ``Erik | I believe in the USA, the phrase is older than computers |
| 18:01.17 | ``Erik | hm, now I want to look it up :/ |
| 18:02.03 | ``Erik | india, cool! |
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| 18:02.38 | albertcoder | ``Erik:yeah that example enlightened me too :) Anyway thank you paying heed :) |
| 18:02.45 | ``Erik | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/if_all_you_have_is_a_hammer,_everything_looks_like_a_nail |
| 18:03.49 | ``Erik | such is the existance of mentors |
| 18:03.50 | inderplus_ | Yes, I was talking about using it in context of programming. That's new around here. :P ' |
| 18:04.29 | inderplus_ | We here have mostly tool-oriented courses and not task-oriented. |
| 18:05.14 | ``Erik | inderplus_: the US is in the middle of such a transition... so we're very confused over here ;) |
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| 18:06.51 | inderplus_ | :D |
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| 20:23.18 | infinite | hi! I came across BRL CAD as mentoring organisation for GSoC. The projects seem interesting. It says application rrecommends submission of patch. What should be the patch about that I should submit, can anyone please guide? |
| 21:00.16 | inderplus_ | Hi infinite, there's a list of open coding Tasks in GCI http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/google/gci2013/brlcad and they can be used as a patch. Read the checklist at http://brlcad.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code/Checklist . |
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| 21:37.36 | infinite | thanks inderplus_ ! I found this link too http://brlcad.org/wiki/Contributor_Quickies, can anyone of these be also used for patches? |
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| 21:41.04 | inderplus_ | I guess, yes! but this list was last edited in september 2012 so you have to figure out if the task you are deciding to do is already done. |
| 21:41.51 | brlcad | infinite: mostly yes, but make sure the particular task isn't already completed (i.e., ask someone here) |
| 21:41.51 | inderplus_ | What project interests you ? |
| 21:42.10 | brlcad | ah, exactly what inderplus_ said :) |
| 21:42.16 | inderplus_ | :) |
| 21:42.42 | brlcad | there's also http://brlcad.org/wiki/Deuces but you should similarly ask |
| 21:43.16 | andrei__ | hey, brlcad |
| 21:43.26 | brlcad | hey andrei__ |
| 21:47.19 | brlcad | anyone done with their proposal? |
| 21:47.36 | inderplus_ | I am working on mine. |
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| 21:47.57 | inderplus_ | I mean, I have shared it on wiki but it's yet incomplete. |
| 21:48.27 | brlcad | not a bad thing |
| 21:48.39 | inderplus_ | http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Inderpreet/OGV_Proposal here it is |
| 21:48.40 | brlcad | just wondering if anyone think's they're actually done yet |
| 21:49.00 | brlcad | heh, possessive thinking |
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| 21:50.50 | brlcad | inderplus_: appreciate all the discussion on the mailing list, keep it up |
| 21:51.19 | inderplus_ | thanks :) |
| 21:53.47 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 60152 brlcad/trunk/sh/tracker.sh: don't need to echo output of expr, just run expr (shellcheck) |
| 21:58.46 | devinder | hi |
| 21:59.12 | devinder | brlcad: |
| 22:05.48 | inderplus_ | devinder: hi |
| 22:06.16 | devinder | thnks for the response |
| 22:06.33 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 60153 (brlcad/trunk/doc/tool_categories.txt brlcad/trunk/sh/CMakeLists.txt): remove another autotools script |
| 22:06.46 | devinder | have you submitted your proposal yet? |
| 22:07.16 | inderplus_ | I have added to the wiki, Yet to get my enrollment letter from college :( |
| 22:07.45 | inderplus_ | so can't do it on melange |
| 22:08.58 | n_reed | ``Erik: thanks for mentioning shellcheck, going through sh/ was indeed a fun exercise |
| 22:10.19 | brlcad | inderplus_: do you have a student ID card? |
| 22:10.25 | brlcad | that can serve as a proxy |
| 22:12.24 | devinder | inderplus_: yes that can solve the purpose too |
| 22:12.32 | inderplus_ | I have it but it was issued in 2012, |
| 22:15.24 | inderplus_ | I will get the letter by tomorrow, we have applied for a bonafide student certificate |
| 22:18.06 | devinder_ | yeah well |
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| 22:21.59 | ``Erik | n_reed: my condolances :( ;) |
| 22:25.22 | brlcad | inderplus_: you can update the docs and provide additional ones later iirc, if you run into a problem |
| 22:25.30 | brlcad | google will hunt you down if it's a problem |
| 22:26.17 | brlcad | I don't see why a 2012 card wouldn't be "good enough for now", they'd just want more later |
| 22:26.36 | brlcad | but that will let you at least submit if you need to since friday is the deadline |
| 22:27.20 | inderplus_ | Ok, I'll upload whatever I have and then update when I get my letter. |
| 22:35.52 | brlcad | or just keep that in mind if something happens and you don't get your paper by thursday |
| 22:36.21 | inderplus_ | sure! thanks :) |