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| 03:52.07 | Notify | command, which wasn't working anyways. |
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| 04:20.27 | konrado | brlcad hello |
| 04:30.46 | brlcad | howdy konrado |
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| 04:36.11 | brlcad | konrado: how goes the coding? |
| 04:37.00 | konrado | Not started coding still doing alot research |
| 04:38.01 | konrado | Is the open scene graph compiled by default in brlcad |
| 04:38.05 | konrado | ? |
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| 04:42.47 | konrado | i tried converting a simple epa primitive to vrml using the g-vrml converter but it was not working then after trying to find a work around i did g-stl, stl-g then g-vrlm which did a partial convertion.Why could i not get a direct convetion? |
| 04:45.52 | konrado | Can you give me some pointers on how to convert vrml primitive to polygons. I have been contemplating using openvrml/openscenegraph? |
| 04:47.22 | brlcad | konrado: when you run "cmake ...." it performs tests looking for open scene graph |
| 04:47.44 | brlcad | you also have to enable it, but if it finds it and it's enabled, it'll be used |
| 04:49.27 | brlcad | as for why g-vrml didn't work on the epa, it could be for a variety of obscure reasons like there not being a properly defined region to export |
| 04:50.32 | brlcad | it should and can work (as seen by some of the other converters) .. and probably a quick/easy if it doesn't that you could probably debug successfully |
| 04:52.04 | brlcad | that said, you're welcome to also rewrite the g-vrml exporter using a lib if you're so inclined ... might greatly help you understand what they're doin too if you go through line by line. |
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| 05:01.13 | konrado | I am still trying to find my way though the openvrml/openscenegraph source code and was thinking i could use the openscenegraph vrml primitive plugin to write a routine that would convert the vrml primitive to polygons so i can use them indexedfaceset while implimenting a vrml-g conveter |
| 05:02.54 | konrado | but i would like to know if you can point me to some better way of achieving this |
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| 05:07.22 | konrado | brlcad: Are there some similarities between x3d and collada converters |
| 05:07.30 | konrado | ? |
| 05:07.59 | brlcad | konrado: i'm of the opinion that less is more .. openvrml or one of the other libs should work perfectly sufficiently |
| 05:08.38 | brlcad | using something like OSG is pretty much unnecessary and undesirable for this .. that's huge baggage for what is supposed to be a simple converter |
| 05:09.16 | brlcad | similarities in what sense? "yes, they both can describe geometry" |
| 05:11.02 | konrado | Does collada describe geometry with respect to polygons like vrml? |
| 05:12.10 | brlcad | it can |
| 05:12.31 | brlcad | why? relevance? |
| 05:15.06 | konrado | I was also thinking of how to implement g-dae |
| 05:15.22 | brlcad | suggest concentrating on just vrml or x3d or whatever other format , not hopping around amongst formats when you run into some issue ... otherwise it'll just make it even harder for you |
| 05:16.17 | brlcad | if you get one finished (any format) that doesn't exist, you'll usually have a much greater understanding |
| 05:17.22 | brlcad | just realize the APIs and skills you need to export are not the same as those you need during import .. best to focus on one or the other only (for starters) |
| 05:17.29 | konrado | presently working on vrml-g the others are just asides |
| 05:17.37 | brlcad | okay |
| 05:17.55 | brlcad | so have you tried using openvrml yet? |
| 05:18.23 | brlcad | are you comfortable with c++? |
| 05:18.57 | konrado | Yes but still trying find my way through the api |
| 05:19.02 | brlcad | useful sample files: http://www2.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~jrk/wwwvrml.dir/public-vrml/VRMLLECTURE/ |
| 05:21.23 | konrado | Not very comfortable to c++ as compared to c but i dont mind working with c++ |
| 05:21.38 | brlcad | ooooh, I see openvrml uses the spirit parser... |
| 05:22.21 | konrado | I just started looking into that and its all new to me |
| 05:22.59 | konrado | dont think it would be any problem |
| 05:23.16 | brlcad | we used to use the spirit parser |
| 05:23.43 | konrado | What for? |
| 05:23.52 | brlcad | for an entirely different lib, but that effort was abandonded |
| 05:28.03 | konrado | Thank very much brlcad for the mentoring. I am going to rest now i have been up night preparing for the ACM-ICPC contest. |
| 05:28.15 | konrado | I really appreciate the time you put in as a mentor. |
| 05:29.19 | konrado | Brlcad: Bye |
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| 11:42.55 | starseeker | would try extracting the relevant bits from Coin3D as a first run at vrml-g... |
| 11:50.54 | ``Erik | vrml, egg, x3d and collada are all xml formats, does it make sense for us to have a general purpose xml lib in src/other/ at this time? (who knows, maybe v6 asc will be xml instead of tcl) |
| 11:50.59 | ``Erik | or v7 |
| 11:53.05 | ``Erik | (xml<->sexp is trivial, so that'd be cool... quick translate and #'read the geometry :D ) |
| 11:54.10 | ``Erik | https://github.com/Vifon/sexp-to-xml heh, easier than I thought |
| 11:55.55 | ``Erik | http://dev.man-online.org/package/main/xml-to-sexp/ |
| 11:57.45 | ``Erik | sexp aside, xml is reasonably common and is something we have ad-hoc implementations of here and there, picking a good lib and having things use it would reduce code, reduce bug surface area, and make new xml stuff a bit easier... *shrug* worth considering imho |
| 12:00.56 | ``Erik | footpedals for input... https://twitter.com/Jaime_Fournier/status/516994237121179648/photo/1 (emacs super/hyper/meta with feet... full body coding!) |
| 12:02.26 | ``Erik | http://usb.brando.com/usb-triple-foot-switch-iii_p02000c046d15.html |
| 12:03.11 | ``Erik | no explicit support for mac/linux/bsd, but it's a hid device |
| 12:03.43 | ``Erik | so possibly xkeymap them |
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| 13:13.47 | brlcad | really depends ... most of the formats we care about that are xml-based are already hooked up to use a particular xml parser and it would seem to me a waste of time to try and rewrite any to use a different parser |
| 13:16.03 | brlcad | interesting foot pedals... would have totally gone for that when I had rsi flair-up back in college |
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| 14:54.13 | bhattigurjot | Hello, I asked about working in MGED on the mailing list, but didn't get any reply there |
| 14:55.08 | bhattigurjot | I was asking whether I should know tcl/tk before working with Qt |
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| 16:14.01 | brlcad | sofat: link to the latest? |
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| 16:15.46 | sofat | this is for xsl stylesheet |
| 16:15.47 | sofat | http://pastie.org/9614206 |
| 16:16.30 | sofat | i use xsl style sheet to convert xml to html |
| 16:17.24 | sofat | now i am right ? |
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| 16:22.43 | brlcad | that is the basic idea, but that xsl stylesheet doesn't for embedding (since it creates its own html/head/body sections) |
| 16:23.44 | brlcad | also the emplate is only pulling the para blocks, but really we want it to pull everything and let the css file tell it what to show or not show |
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| 16:27.31 | sofat | brlcad, yes |
| 16:28.14 | sofat | then how i convert the xml file to html |
| 16:28.44 | sofat | if i use xsl file so i need to define the html tag according my needs |
| 16:32.37 | sofat | brlcad, don't need to define head,body |
| 16:32.52 | sofat | without of this they work |
| 16:33.25 | sofat | there is new code for xml |
| 16:33.26 | sofat | http://pastie.org/9614246 |
| 16:34.03 | sofat | there is php code |
| 16:34.04 | sofat | http://pastie.org/9614247 |
| 16:34.08 | sofat | please check |
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| 16:40.16 | sofat_ | brlcad, please tell me how i complete this work according your needs |
| 16:41.25 | brlcad | sofat_: what am I checking ofr? does it work is the next question? :) |
| 16:42.11 | brlcad | did you get the style/formatting cleaned up? |
| 16:42.25 | sofat_ | yes |
| 16:42.34 | sofat_ | i removed html,head |
| 16:42.42 | sofat_ | tag from xsl file |
| 16:43.42 | sofat_ | http://pastie.org/9614246 |
| 16:43.52 | sofat_ | there is php code |
| 16:43.58 | sofat_ | http://pastie.org/9614247 |
| 16:44.05 | brlcad | you don't need to keep pasting it, heh |
| 16:44.07 | brlcad | I saw it |
| 16:44.25 | sofat_ | sorry |
| 16:44.28 | brlcad | again, really we want it to pull everything and let the css file tell it what to show or not show |
| 16:44.39 | brlcad | the template is only pulling the para blocks manually |
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| 16:45.58 | sofat_ | yes |
| 16:46.19 | sofat_ | what is next step |
| 16:46.27 | brlcad | I'd expect something like one of these other xsl files: doc/docbook/resources/brlcad |
| 16:46.58 | brlcad | there are many possible next steps, several that I've pointed out to you .. .what do YOU think the next steps are? |
| 16:50.30 | sofat_ | i see there is more files |
| 16:50.30 | brlcad | the last time we talked, you were also going to clean up the formatting of your main php code |
| 16:50.51 | brlcad | did you complete that? |
| 16:53.03 | sofat_ | not yet , i will complete this i was working on xsl style sheet to convert xml to html |
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| 16:57.00 | sofat_ | regarding formating for code you told me header and footer files but i made a wordpress plugin so header footer is not part of plugin, because header and footer is part of theme by default. |
| 16:58.53 | brlcad | the header and footer are just comments |
| 16:59.08 | brlcad | documentation about it |
| 17:00.08 | brlcad | sofat_: so what is your long-term motivation? |
| 17:00.53 | brlcad | I understand that you're wanting to work on something, but what is your interest? |
| 17:01.56 | brlcad | whatever you work on should be independently useful to you, it's not an assignment you're turning in to me |
| 17:02.03 | brlcad | interesting and useful |
| 17:02.51 | brlcad | if you know of any possible way(s) to make your work better or to take a next step, you should take those steps without waiting for anyone to tell you that those are the next steps |
| 17:03.06 | brlcad | does that make sense? |
| 17:03.30 | sofat_ | i wanted to convert benchmark DB into mediawiki extension and i had worked three months on that |
| 17:03.51 | sofat_ | but also wish to complete this work |
| 17:04.01 | brlcad | this has the potential to be very useful and seen by hundreds of thousands of people... :) |
| 17:05.41 | brlcad | we can get back to the benchmark db work soon, but there are lots of considerations there ... |
| 17:06.22 | brlcad | it's not even clear yet with the migration to wordpress that we'll stick with mediawiki if there's a suitable alternative that has better features |
| 17:06.39 | brlcad | that doesn't mean your work was wasted, but it means we need to look at exactly what you did more carefully |
| 17:06.58 | brlcad | also reimphasizes the importance of commmunication in open source software development |
| 17:07.02 | brlcad | talk early, talk often ;) |
| 17:07.29 | sofat_ | honestly i have some problem in language and communication |
| 17:07.45 | brlcad | regardless, this is all good work .. we just need to get it polished into a status where it can go live |
| 17:08.04 | brlcad | yeah, I'm seeing that ... hopefully the language and communication will improve with time |
| 17:08.07 | sofat_ | but i will try to improve both technically and with language |
| 17:08.11 | brlcad | I suggest taking notes of yourunderstanding |
| 17:08.33 | sofat_ | alright thanks |
| 17:09.15 | brlcad | you have several obstacles / learning opportunities ;) |
| 17:09.36 | sofat_ | sir please give me short term tasks which i can complete in a time |
| 17:10.11 | sofat_ | i am ready to learn and overcome obstacles |
| 17:10.28 | brlcad | 1) how to contribute to open source, 2) how to collaborate online / internationally, 3) understanding the requirements, 4) solving the coding problems by actually writing code, 5) being patient with me ... ;) and more |
| 17:10.43 | brlcad | please, again, no sir here ;) |
| 17:11.02 | brlcad | you don't even know that I'm a sir |
| 17:11.37 | brlcad | you already have several short term tasks, no? |
| 17:12.33 | sofat_ | sir i chose xml convert into html with help of xsl |
| 17:12.43 | brlcad | NO SIR! |
| 17:13.04 | brlcad | please |
| 17:13.31 | sofat_ | so please gave me clear view so i complete this task |
| 17:13.54 | sofat_ | where i am wrong ? |
| 17:14.07 | brlcad | you mean besides repeatedly calling me sir? :) |
| 17:14.36 | sofat_ | haha |
| 17:14.46 | sofat_ | ok sean :-) |
| 17:15.02 | sofat_ | yes |
| 17:15.11 | brlcad | you tell me what you think remains needing to be done |
| 17:16.30 | sofat_ | first convert xml to html in proper way and second provide coding standard to code |
| 17:19.26 | brlcad | anything else? |
| 17:20.44 | sofat_ | i know only this tasks. |
| 17:21.45 | brlcad | those sound good to me too ;) |
| 17:22.09 | brlcad | see -- you don't need me to tell you what to do, you already know |
| 17:22.28 | brlcad | so do them and if you know of some way to improve something, do that too |
| 17:22.44 | brlcad | when you have nothing left to improve, submit it for review |
| 17:22.52 | brlcad | sound good? |
| 17:24.11 | sofat_ | okay, i will need some help between |
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| 18:10.19 | brlcad | oof, now that was a tricky regex to get working... [[:space:]]if[[:space:]]\([[:space:]]*([^[:space:]]*?)[[:space:]]*[^-][<>][=]?[[:space:]]*([^[:space:]]*?)[[\ |
| 18:10.22 | brlcad | :space:]]*\).*\n?[[:space:]]+\1?\2?[[:space:]]*= |
| 18:11.27 | brlcad | finds code looking like a min/max clamping case |
| 18:11.55 | brlcad | and I learned a new grep flag the process, woot |
| 18:12.15 | ``Erik | hm, sofat has bailed... is the flag gnu or real? :D |
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| 18:14.23 | brlcad | the flag is perl actually |
| 18:14.31 | brlcad | -Po |
| 18:14.55 | ``Erik | yeah, the xml formats we have implemented are already implemented... dur... if we know that the implementations are flawless and there will be no more implementations, then I agree that it would be a waste of time... I find myself disagreeing with the "if's" :) |
| 18:15.05 | brlcad | allow perl extensions (e.g., allow matching \n newlines and only print the matches |
| 18:15.35 | brlcad | (?s) is also new to me, apparently syntax to make . match any char space char including newlines |
| 18:16.29 | ``Erik | cool... regex and newlines has always been an issue for me... some impls do it, some don't... some want funky syntax... ^V\n style |
| 18:16.57 | brlcad | I do it all the time in perl, but I needed grep-find in emacs to do it |
| 18:17.10 | ``Erik | imma note -Po and (?s) for practice |
| 18:17.46 | brlcad | assumes those are gnu grep specific |
| 18:19.58 | ``Erik | talked to j auten tuesday evening, sounds like the ed la tolteca lunch was good fun, sorry I missed it :) |
| 18:21.46 | ``Erik | ya'll gotta give me at least 1.5 hours notice so I can get out there |
| 18:23.55 | ``Erik | for bz, I'm working on developing a quicklisp search webapp (similar to cocoapods.org, but for the packages quicklisp provides), is it cool if I use bz for that? I doubt it'll bring much traffic after the launch, probably 'dozens' per day |
| 18:27.46 | brlcad | no worries here |
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