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| 02:15.47 | starseeker | is very tempted to dispense with the custom timing code now that CMake has added support for string(TIMESTAMP) |
| 02:15.57 | starseeker | that has been one long portability headache |
| 02:21.23 | starseeker | figures once Debian stable gets 2.8.11 as its default it's toast... |
| 02:22.56 | starseeker | blessing: for tutorials, I'd start with http://brlcad.org/w/images/c/cf/Introduction_to_MGED.pdf |
| 02:23.27 | starseeker | it's a bit dated - there are a couple commands with incorrect syntax - but it's generally still applicable |
| 02:31.19 | starseeker | still thinks http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_Version_Compatibility_Matrix is one of the best examples he's ever seen of open source contributed documentation... spectacularly useful |
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| 03:33.11 | brlcad | blessing: brlcad.org/wiki/Documentation |
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| 08:29.31 | blessing | Hi Everyone I have been practicing mged tool following the introduction to mged recommended by brlcad and starseeker but Nothing appears when i draw a sphere |
| 08:29.52 | blessing | The steps were |
| 08:30.03 | blessing | mged sphere.g |
| 08:30.43 | blessing | changed units to mm : units mm |
| 08:31.43 | blessing | then make sph1.s sph and finally draw sph1.s |
| 08:32.22 | blessing | Nothing still happens as im still in mged |
| 08:32.53 | blessing | should i just continue typing the commands or something is wrong? |
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| 09:43.51 | stefanmirea | Hi blessing, try to zoom out a few times or use View -> Default. |
| 09:45.24 | blessing | hi stefanmirea, im not sure i understand you |
| 09:45.49 | blessing | im running from terminal |
| 09:46.08 | blessing | i dont know what to zoom |
| 09:46.56 | stefanmirea | You don't have a graphics window? |
| 09:47.23 | blessing | no when i start mged no other window is displayed |
| 09:47.36 | blessing | im still in my terminal |
| 09:48.04 | stefanmirea | Well, that seems weird. |
| 09:48.12 | stefanmirea | What command did you use to run mged? |
| 09:49.53 | blessing | from the manual i did mged sphere.g |
| 09:50.41 | blessing | and i got this prompt |
| 09:50.45 | blessing | BRL-CAD Release 7.25.0 Geometry Editor (MGED) |
| 09:50.45 | blessing | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.45 | blessing | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.45 | blessing | attach (nu|txt)[nu]? |
| 09:56.27 | stefanmirea | That is the classic mode, I don't know what to say, it looks like your mged is an alias to mged -c. |
| 09:56.31 | stefanmirea | Try "type mged". |
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| 20:55.41 | brlcad | blessing: it sounds like your display isn't working right if it didn't show you the sphere you just drew |
| 20:56.00 | brlcad | "make sph sph" should display a sphere wireframe |
| 20:56.08 | brlcad | run "rt" to see it in another window shaded |
| 20:57.44 | brlcad | the attach prompt indicates that it did not compile the X11 interface -- make sure you have the x11 development headers installed, delete your CMakeCache.txt file, and redo the build (make sure X11 is enabled in the summary when you run cmake) |
| 20:58.02 | blessing | brlcad, running "rt" says a view does not exist |
| 20:58.25 | brlcad | did you precede it with make sph sph? |
| 20:58.32 | brlcad | or draw |
| 20:59.04 | blessing | yes i try with make and draw |
| 20:59.17 | brlcad | eh? |
| 20:59.25 | brlcad | that wasn't my question :) |
| 20:59.38 | brlcad | did you run "make sph sph" immediately before running "rt"? |
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| 21:00.57 | brlcad | and thinking it through, rt certainly isn't going to show you a window either if you didn't have X11 enabled |
| 21:01.33 | brlcad | you can run "rt -o file.png" and open that png file with an image program |
| 21:03.32 | blessing | It keep saying a view does not exixt. I think i should delete the CMakeCache.txt file and redo make as recommended |
| 21:03.47 | blessing | hoping it works |
| 21:03.59 | brlcad | you'll have to rebuild regardless |
| 21:04.13 | brlcad | "attach (nu|txt) [nu]?" is wrong |
| 21:04.22 | brlcad | you should see more options |
| 21:04.37 | brlcad | but nothing is going to change if you just delete and rebuild |
| 21:04.43 | brlcad | here's what you should do: |
| 21:05.17 | brlcad | 1) go to your build dir, run "cmake ." ... and read the summary output, notice where it tells you that X11 is disabled |
| 21:05.47 | brlcad | 2) install the X11 devel headers (see the /wiki/Compiling page for lots of things you were supposed to install) |
| 21:06.14 | brlcad | 3) delete the CMakeCache.txt file, rerun cmake, and rerun make |
| 21:07.02 | brlcad | when you rerun cmake ... pay attention to the summary output!!! if it doesn't say X11 is enabled, you still have a problem |
| 21:07.13 | brlcad | make sense? |
| 21:08.22 | brlcad | you want to see: X11 support (optional) ................: ON |
| 21:09.02 | blessing | i think the steps are clear even though i dont understand what's going happening. let me just give it a try and report back |
| 21:09.13 | brlcad | you'll also want OpenGL ON if you need to do anything with archer |
| 21:09.39 | brlcad | when you run cmake .. it tests to see what is available on your system, what libraries, what headers, what tools |
| 21:09.59 | brlcad | to compile against a library, you need that library and that library's headers |
| 21:10.28 | brlcad | you almost certainly don't have headers installed for X11, which is your display system .. so you can't compile X11 windowed applications |
| 21:11.14 | brlcad | the brl-cad build system doesn't care .. we're portable and mged was technically running, just without a window .. there's lots you could do with that, but makes learning/using it harder if you're new |
| 21:12.17 | brlcad | you obviously can RUN x11 applications -- that means you have at least some of the X11 libraries installed (libX11, libXi, libXt, libXext, etc) |
| 21:12.29 | brlcad | but you can't COMPILE x11 applications without the x11 headers, which you have to install |
| 21:12.37 | brlcad | better? |
| 21:13.22 | ``Erik | should this process be a wikipage that notify or ibot can have the link to? :) |
| 21:13.30 | brlcad | if it's still unclear, ask questions ... most people here can probably explain things and answer questions better ;) |
| 21:13.44 | brlcad | ``Erik: it's already a wiki page |
| 21:14.15 | brlcad | but the wiki page is intentionally concise to be simple, doesn't explain how compiling works |
| 21:14.44 | brlcad | or cmake or the relationship of *-devel packages with lib packages or ... |
| 21:15.06 | brlcad | so yeah, blessing ... please do ask questions, don't be shy ;) |
| 21:15.23 | brlcad | one only learns by failing |
| 21:17.37 | blessing | I just installed the x11 headers and Im following the steps mentioned |
| 21:17.54 | blessing | will report if it still fails |
| 21:41.00 | blessing | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.00 | blessing | Compile Tcl ...........................: ON |
| 21:41.00 | blessing | Compile Tk ............................: OFF |
| 21:41.00 | blessing | Compile Itcl/Itk ......................: ON (Itcl only) |
| 21:41.00 | blessing | Compile Iwidgets ......................: OFF |
| 21:41.00 | blessing | Compile Tkhtml ........................: OFF |
| 21:41.02 | blessing | Compile tkpng .........................: OFF |
| 21:41.04 | blessing | Compile Tktable .......................: OFF |
| 21:41.06 | blessing | Compile libpng ........................: ON |
| 21:41.08 | blessing | Compile libregex ......................: ON |
| 21:41.10 | blessing | Compile zlib ..........................: ON |
| 21:41.12 | blessing | Compile termlib .......................: ON |
| 21:41.14 | blessing | Compile Utah Raster Toolkit ...........: ON |
| 21:41.16 | blessing | Compile openNURBS .....................: ON |
| 21:41.18 | blessing | Compile STEPcode.......................: ON |
| 21:41.20 | blessing | Compile Bullet ........................: OFF |
| 21:41.22 | blessing | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.24 | blessing | OpenGL support (optional) .............: OFF |
| 21:41.26 | blessing | X11 support (optional) ................: OFF |
| 21:41.30 | blessing | Qt support (optional) .................: OFF |
| 21:41.32 | blessing | librtserver JDK support (optional) ....: ON |
| 21:41.34 | blessing | Enable run-time debugging (optional) ..: ON |
| 21:41.36 | blessing | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.38 | blessing | Build 32/64-bit release ...............: 64BIT (Auto) |
| 21:41.40 | blessing | Build optimized release ...............: |
| 21:41.42 | blessing | Build static libraries ................: |
| 21:41.44 | blessing | Build dynamic libraries ...............: ON |
| 21:41.46 | blessing | Install example geometry models .......: ON |
| 21:41.48 | blessing | Generate extra docs ...................: ON (html/man) |
| 21:41.50 | blessing | what else is supposed to be ON? |
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| 22:52.01 | blessing | Now I have two windows. MGED command and Graphics Window! thanks brlcad |
| 22:52.23 | blessing | I can now continue my tutorial |
| 23:00.43 | ``Erik | w00t |
| 23:04.13 | ``Erik | brlcad: mebbe a good 'new contributor' task would be to set up a string of wiki pages as a 'choose your own adventure' troubleshooting/installing guide? each page is a step with a set of "if you see, then click" links after? (or build the "big honkin directed graph" as a webapp or something... wizard style) |
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