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| 03:05.25 | brlcad | tests out cloudflare with one of the site domains... |
| 03:09.51 | unicodesnowman | dislikes cloudflare. |
| 03:10.18 | brlcad | what do you dislike about it? |
| 03:11.30 | unicodesnowman | cloudflare injects javascript into the page that gives each visitor a unique, long-lasting tracking cookie |
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| 03:12.00 | unicodesnowman | I feel like their free/pro/business plans are basically data collection agents for their cloud reputation system. |
| 03:13.27 | brlcad | hm, https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170156-What-does-the-CloudFlare-cfduid-cookie-do- |
| 03:13.58 | brlcad | javascript injection is a lame |
| 03:14.52 | unicodesnowman | their explanation is a bit sus, because cloudflare only needs to give the __cfduid cookie to trusted computers when the IP is blocked.. |
| 03:15.22 | unicodesnowman | I've also used Incapsula, and they don't do JS injection or cookie stuffing. |
| 03:19.21 | brlcad | incapsula's free plan isn't quite as strong |
| 03:20.26 | brlcad | but still thanks, good to know -- didn't realize that |
| 03:20.44 | brlcad | (that's the point of trying them out too) ;) |
| 03:22.32 | unicodesnowman | true. I'm personally uncomfortable using cloudflare as a CDN, but their business ddos mitigation is decent |
| 04:55.39 | nmz787 | brlcad: I don't know how to turn on/off tk or set the version |
| 04:56.07 | nmz787 | brlcad: I also don't know how to list the flags available for a given cmake project |
| 04:57.55 | nmz787 | someone says cmake -LAH |
| 05:01.26 | nmz787 | brlcad: this is the CMakeCache.txt http://paste.pound-python.org/show/rK5JSsuxns0aIAummklB/ |
| 05:01.55 | nmz787 | and this is the file created when I did cmake -LAH > outfile.txt http://paste.pound-python.org/show/L9THhaAC4eSAnnVBVRt7/ |
| 05:04.45 | brlcad | nmz787: our INSTALL file itemizes our flags |
| 05:05.19 | brlcad | nmz787: and the flag would be -DBRLCAD_ENABLE_TK=OFF |
| 05:08.03 | brlcad | nmz787: just as useful as the cache is the output summary when you run cmake ... the text at the end that summarizes all the build options |
| 05:15.19 | nmz787 | yeah I mean I didn't know if Tk was required, or if the argument would need to be the path to the libs or includes or something |
| 05:15.28 | nmz787 | i'll try that option with cmake now |
| 05:17.18 | nmz787 | did cmake -DBRLCAD_ENABLE_TK=OFF |
| 05:17.24 | nmz787 | then sudo make -j4 install |
| 05:21.10 | brlcad | Tk is not strictly required, but you won't get any GUIs if it's off |
| 05:21.25 | brlcad | and just because it builds doesn't mean much ... need to see that summary |
| 05:22.18 | brlcad | cmake is very particular about cache'd paths ... if you didn't read the summary, it could be using a prior tested result or could have given you a big error-no-tk-found message that you overlooked |
| 05:23.03 | nmz787 | oh, I think it just said OFF |
| 05:23.06 | nmz787 | fo r tk |
| 05:25.22 | brlcad | gah, I gave you the wrong flag |
| 05:26.09 | brlcad | cmake -DBRLCAD_TK=SYSTEM |
| 05:26.29 | brlcad | you want tk on, but using your system verison |
| 05:26.50 | brlcad | and BRLCAD_ENABLE_TK=ON |
| 05:27.19 | nmz787 | ah, yeah it died from no -litk |
| 05:27.29 | nmz787 | how do i 'clean' it |
| 05:27.36 | nmz787 | just make clean? |
| 05:30.14 | nmz787 | here's the errorneous output http://paste.pound-python.org/show/J8AdMaawO6HqjYX5lKdQ/ |
| 05:38.25 | nmz787 | when i do sudo apt-get install tk8.6-dev tcl8.6-dev it says they're already installed |
| 05:50.44 | nmz787 | ah, the ./sh/make_deb.sh said I am missing xsltproc |
| 05:52.36 | brlcad | nmz787: add -DBRLCAD_TCL=SYSTEM too |
| 05:53.00 | brlcad | and make sure tcl/tk is installed on your system obviously, so it can use it |
| 05:53.07 | brlcad | rm CMakeCache.txt |
| 05:53.28 | brlcad | whenever you run a different cmake line or change you system |
| 06:34.07 | ignacio | anyone know where I can get a logo like this: https://kuniga.files.wordpress.com/2111/08/angelov_512x256.png?w=300&h=150 but transparent? |
| 06:34.42 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/wiki/Logo |
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| 06:35.47 | yukonbob | hello #brlcad |
| 06:36.25 | brlcad | howdy yukonbob |
| 06:36.53 | yukonbob | hey! nice to see you online :) |
| 06:37.51 | yukonbob | I have a question while you're here: is there something you can steer me to that will: find the perpendicular to a face ? |
| 06:39.28 | brlcad | two edges of a face make two vectors |
| 06:39.38 | brlcad | the cross product of those vectors is perpendicular to them |
| 06:41.15 | ignacio | ugh, I dont found the logo I want |
| 06:42.52 | yukonbob | brlcad: ok -- I don't know exactly what you said, but that's fine -- i can research that. Yes, or no: by the method you descibed I could have a sphere and (eg) make a "pinhead" out of it w/ perpendicular (eg) cylinders ? |
| 06:42.52 | ignacio | well, I will look in that tomorrow |
| 06:42.53 | ignacio | Good night |
| 06:43.22 | brlcad | yukonbob: looks like bn_mk_plane_3pts() will do it for you |
| 06:44.54 | yukonbob | cool... |
| 06:44.55 | brlcad | ignacio-asleep: http://brlcad.org/images/logo/ is probably what you're looking for and has a transparent version, but without the "BRL-CAD" text |
| 06:45.26 | brlcad | ignacio-asleep: note that we never write "BRLCAD" .. always "BRL-CAD" -- the angelov image you linked is wrong |
| 06:47.55 | yukonbob | brlcad: I've got a patch from nbsd that I might as well pass to you too (my svn client is being finicky) |
| 06:47.59 | yukonbob | - while (isdigit(*(fp+1))) |
| 06:47.59 | yukonbob | + while (isdigit((int)*(fp+1))) |
| 06:48.00 | yukonbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.24 | yukonbob | in two places in libbu/vls_vprintf.c |
| 06:51.09 | Stragus | Hum, the cast to int was already implicit when passing the value |
| 06:51.36 | Stragus | Unless brlcad actually wants all implicit casts to be explicit, in which case I haven't said anything :) |
| 06:52.42 | brlcad | the ctype "functions" are often implemented as macros, so there's actually no type coercion on some implementations |
| 06:52.45 | brlcad | common issue |
| 06:52.54 | yukonbob | in NetBSD, my build was barfing w/o the cast. |
| 06:53.41 | Stragus | Woah. The macros are broken then |
| 06:54.07 | yukonbob | it might not be macros... |
| 06:54.35 | yukonbob | checks -- and also pretty careful when calling anything in nbsd "broken" considering it's one of the most portable OSes out there ;) |
| 06:55.04 | Stragus | The macros should include that cast to (int), otherwise they don't behave as the function |
| 06:55.33 | brlcad | Stragus: not broken, just missing a cast |
| 06:55.38 | brlcad | meh |
| 06:55.54 | brlcad | this is quellage, the compiler does the right thing |
| 06:57.06 | yukonbob | - while (isdigit(*(fp+1))) |
| 06:57.06 | yukonbob | + while (isdigit((int)*(fp+1))) |
| 06:57.10 | yukonbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.26 | yukonbob | # define isdigit(x) ((x) >= '0' && (x) <= '9') |
| 06:58.30 | yukonbob | I'll post to a dev list w/ question about that... |
| 07:02.37 | brlcad | also note that the standard doesn't say isdigit must be a function, just that the argument must be an int whose values is representable as an unsigned char, or something similarly vague .. which I believe makes the older array-index forms technically compliant, but will naturally cause a warning if you pass a potentially unsigned value |
| 07:02.58 | brlcad | s/unsigned value/signed value/ |
| 07:03.15 | brlcad | yukonbob: there is no line that says while (isdigit(*(fp+1))) |
| 07:03.37 | brlcad | there's lines that already have an (unsigned char) cast, so this issue is probably already fixed |
| 07:05.31 | nmz787 | brlcad: -DBRLCAD_TCL=SYSTEM seems to have allowed cmake to process further |
| 07:06.04 | brlcad | nmz787: glad to hear it .. just keep an eye out for the final summary |
| 07:06.11 | nmz787 | brlcad: do you know how to direct all output to a file? |
| 07:06.33 | nmz787 | a ton of stuff like this printed and filled my scroll buffer |
| 07:06.33 | nmz787 | Policy CMP0021 is not set: Fatal error on relative paths in INCLUDE_DIRECTORIES target property. Run "cmake --help-policy CMP0021" for policy details. Use the cmake_policy command to set the policy and suppress this warning. Found relative path while evaluating include directories of "pixcmp": "NOTFOUND" |
| 07:06.34 | brlcad | you're looking for the lines to say that Tcl and Tk are using system |
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| 07:07.06 | brlcad | cmake ... 2>&1 | tee cmake.log |
| 07:07.34 | brlcad | that way you can watch the output while at the same time saving it to a file (cmake.log) |
| 07:07.51 | brlcad | alternatively could run cmake ... > cmake.log 2>&1 & |
| 07:07.56 | brlcad | and then tail -f cmake.log |
| 07:08.18 | brlcad | tee is better for this though unless you don't want to see the intermediate output |
| 07:09.32 | nmz787 | http://paste.pound-python.org/show/z1ftVaSAVyxYeZqZEgYT/ |
| 07:10.08 | brlcad | yukonbob: the manual way to get that normal: VSUB(v1, p1, p0); VSUB(v2, p2, p0); VCROSS(norm, v1, v2); |
| 07:10.49 | nmz787 | which tclsh produces /usr/bin/tclsh |
| 07:10.57 | brlcad | yukonbob: "have a sphere and make a "pinhead" out of it w/ perpendicular (eg) cylinders" <-- sure, yes |
| 07:11.36 | yukonbob | brlcad: in the latest release, i have as ~L545 and L%^# |
| 07:11.42 | yukonbob | *L563 |
| 07:12.00 | yukonbob | in vls_vprintf.c |
| 07:12.16 | yukonbob | but this isn't tip of a trunk... |
| 07:12.20 | brlcad | exactly |
| 07:12.37 | brlcad | last release was a really long time ago |
| 07:12.40 | brlcad | too long |
| 07:13.12 | brlcad | nmz787: almost certainly missing wish |
| 07:13.25 | yukonbob | nods -- I was going to ask when the next release is scheduled... |
| 07:16.02 | brlcad | nmz787: so it looks like you have the right flags, but are either missing developer portions for tcl/tk or need to tell cmake where to find them (under advanced options) .. figuring out which requires reading the tcl/tk tests that ran earlier in that cmake log |
| 07:21.11 | nmz787 | sudo apt-cache search wish|grep tcl xotcl-shells - Extended Object Tcl (XOTcl): Object orientation for Tcl - shells |
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| 07:23.23 | brlcad | nmz787: that commit should take care of all those CMP warnings |
| 07:23.31 | brlcad | Notify: *ping* |
| 07:23.40 | brlcad | well, there was a commit just now |
| 07:24.51 | brlcad | should be: apt-get install tk8.5 tcl8.5 |
| 07:25.34 | brlcad | but there might also be a tcl8.5-dev and tk8.5-dev and/or 8.6 versions |
| 07:35.13 | nmz787 | ah, ok, didn't know 8.6 wouldn't work |
| 07:35.40 | nmz787 | damn, they say they're already installed |
| 07:35.57 | nmz787 | (for x8.8 and x8.5-dev |
| 07:35.58 | nmz787 | ) |
| 07:40.42 | nmz787 | adding -DCMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/tcl8.5 |
| 07:40.46 | nmz787 | didn't help |
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| 07:55.43 | brlcad | need to see your full cmake output and your two build/CMakeFiles/*.log files to diagnose why it's not using it |
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| 08:09.02 | yukonbob | off. |
| 08:09.18 | yukonbob | brlcad: nice to chat again; thx for the hints re: normals. |
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| 12:07.44 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64026 brlcad/trunk/src/fb/polar-fb.c: in polar-fb, in an apparently-unused branch, mention -h and not just -? |
| 12:07.51 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64027 brlcad/trunk/src/fb/spm-fb.c: -h for high-res was still present; remove it and implement use of ?, not just h, for help |
| 12:07.57 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64028 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/clone.c: clone.c : implement ? and shorten by sending 'h' to default; and have to check bu_optopt for '?' |
| 12:08.04 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64029 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/fb2pix.c: I don't see fb2pix command, but -h for high-res was still there and I just removed it |
| 12:08.06 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64030 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-osgl.cpp: Something isn't right between Tk and the OSG graphicsContext - swapping isn't right, but the window also isn't updating properly when another window is dragged across it until a new OpenGL drawing cycle begins. |
| 12:08.09 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64031 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/gqa.c: changes involving h? |
| 12:08.14 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64032 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/make.c: in make.c, implement ?; already has h for help |
| 12:08.16 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64033 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/mirror.c: as in make.c , mirror.c gets use of ? |
| 12:08.18 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64034 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/pix2fb.c: found no pix2fb command, but -h for high-res was still there and had to be removed |
| 12:08.21 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 64035 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm_util.c: Use GL_LINE_LOOP instead of GL_LINE_STRIP in drawLines3D. |
| 12:08.27 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64036 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/search.c: check bu_optopt for '?'; no point in using case '?' because ? is also used for bad option |
| 12:08.29 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64037 brlcad/trunk/src/libicv/rot.c: can't see rot being used as a command, but I removed -h for high-res, and it (-h) will now go to default; implemented ? in options |
| 12:08.31 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64038 (brlcad/trunk/src/libicv/tests/icv_crop.c brlcad/trunk/src/libicv/tests/icv_fade.c and 7 others): libicv/tests directory: remove -h from usage statements; let 'h' go to default; in 2 cases, supply '-s' in usage; reverse a few if-then-else blocks to simplify them to if-then |
| 12:08.33 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64039 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp: Save the 2D trims extracted from loops that aren't fully utilizied by the candidate subbrep - if new faces need to be created, having these available will save work. |
| 12:08.35 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64040 (brlcad/trunk/src/libpkg/example/client.c brlcad/trunk/src/libpkg/example/server.c): implement ? for help |
| 12:08.38 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:ejno * 64041 (brlcad/trunk/include/gcv_util.h brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/load_g.c and 9 others): add a client_data pointer to the gcv_region_end callbacks |
| 12:08.42 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64042 (brlcad/trunk/src/mged/chgview.c brlcad/trunk/src/mged/mged.c): in mged directory, fix use of ?; mged Unrecognized option message now uses bu_optopt |
| 12:08.49 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:ejno * 64043 brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/conv/stl/stl_write.c: remove global variables |
| 12:08.52 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64044 (brlcad/trunk/src/util/buffer.c brlcad/trunk/src/util/bw-pix.c and 4 others): various fixes regarding h,? in src/util files; in buffer.c , removed a bu_log argument which wasn't needed |
| 12:08.56 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:ejno * 64045 (brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/conv/stl/stl_write.c brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/gcv.c): set conv_data.verbose; pass a copy of the context's db to the writer function |
| 12:09.01 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:ejno * 64046 brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/conv/stl/stl_write.c: fix comment |
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| 12:09.05 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64048 brlcad/trunk/src/util/wavelet.c: ----------- |
| 12:09.11 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64049 NIL: Remove empty filter directory |
| 12:09.13 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64050 (brlcad/trunk/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/y2038/CMakeLists.txt): Distcheck cleanup |
| 12:11.15 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 64051 (brlcad/trunk/src/other/stepcode/data/ap242/ap242_1_34_mim_lf.exp =================================================================== and 3821 others): ap242 was finalized last year |
| 12:14.25 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64052 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp: fix spelling of 'have', after 'hae' turned up as a possible misspelling |
| 12:14.28 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64053 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/librt/test_shape_recognition.cpp): Check the brep construction using a second method for the toplevel object. |
| 12:14.40 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 64054 brlcad/trunk/misc/CMake/FindGL.cmake: add another opengl search location for os x |
| 12:14.42 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64055 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp: Flip face when constructing new breps if it's only involved loops are inner loops. |
| 12:14.45 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64056 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp: Shrink surfaces down so autoview does something reasonable |
| 12:14.51 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 64057 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/RtImage.tcl: Added an optional parameter (i.e., do_wait) to cadwidgets::rtimage that by default is 0. |
| 12:14.56 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64058 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/librt/test_shape_recognition.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/CMakeLists.txt): Start re-thinking the logic flow a little - make breps as part of the first pass |
| 12:14.58 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64059 brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/CMakeLists.txt: ws, add BRL-CAD definitions for debugging. This already is BRL-CAD specific, so rather than keep fighting it try to make it do the right thing... |
| 12:15.03 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 64060 (svn:ignore ## -0,0 +1,2 ## and 2 others): ----------- |
| 12:15.06 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64061 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/librt/test_shape_recognition.cpp): duplicate brep to avoid memory problem of some sort - this isn't ideal, should preserve the maps and only duplicate the smaller subbreps. |
| 12:15.15 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64062 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.h): Start working on how to cache relationships so objects can relate back to specific aspects of the original parent brep without having to dupliate it... |
| 12:15.18 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64063 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/librt/test_shape_recognition.cpp): start looking for which shapes do and don't have general surfaces in them. Those without will be simpler to handle. |
| 12:15.27 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 64064 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/shape_recognition.cpp: Sync loop directions in new breps. |
| 12:15.31 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64065 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/reshoot.xml: revise comments about Pnt and Dir; add a hyphen elsewhere; trim back use of underscore |
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| 12:15.36 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64067 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/ply-g.xml: remove underscore, in EXAMPLE, of the command name |
| 12:15.39 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 64068 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/rle-fb.xml brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/rtarea.xml): remove period at end of SEE ALSO listings; use 'command' directive for an occurrence of 'rtarea' |
| 12:16.19 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 64069 brlcad/trunk/CMakeLists.txt: enable cmp00021 to quell relative include dir paths and document some of the others |
| 12:16.41 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 64070 brlcad/branches/eab/src/libdm/dm_util.c: Backported from trunk --- Use GL_LINE_LOOP instead of GL_LINE_STRIP in drawLines3D. |
| 12:16.43 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 64071 brlcad/branches/eab/src/tclscripts/lib/RtImage.tcl: Backported from trunk --- Added an optional parameter (i.e., do_wait) to cadwidgets::rtimage that by default is 0. |
| 12:16.45 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 64072 (brlcad/branches/eab/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/PictureTypeA.itcl brlcad/branches/eab/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/lib/PictureTypeB.itcl and 4 others): Backported from trunk --- Fixes to get rtwizard working again on linux and windows ---- Added _log_file and _pid_filename to rtimage_dict before passing to cadwidgets::rtimage. Added arguments to kill_cmd for windows. |
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| 12:17.25 | andrei_ | wow, so much notify |
| 12:24.52 | ``Erik | yeh, it got a malformed email friday night and was sitting at a prompt to deal with it (and I didn't notice it until this morning) |
| 12:25.39 | ``Erik | the fbsd stuff had ~500 commits O.o |
| 12:28.35 | andrei_ | hm, reminds me of the time I signed up on red hat mailing list without bundled option ... |
| 12:28.40 | andrei_ | not my best decision |
| 12:40.17 | ``Erik | heh, a long time ago, I wrote a mua to deal with the amount of list email I was getting (xfmail crashed when a box got over 10k, pine sucks, I hadn't discovered mutt yet...) :) the good old days |
| 12:40.57 | andrei_ | no clue about mutt, xfmail |
| 12:40.59 | andrei_ | thunderbird ! |
| 12:50.25 | ``Erik | mutt is a curses based mua, so you can use it via ssh... xfmail was an X11 reader in the 90's |
| 12:51.19 | andrei_ | ah |
| 12:51.28 | andrei_ | ah, xfmail is X's mailer |
| 12:51.28 | andrei_ | meh |
| 12:51.49 | ``Erik | has been using apples Mail.app lately, but it frequently locks up (something in the glyph rendering lib goes into a spin with certain characters... typically chinese ones in my spam box) |
| 12:52.26 | ``Erik | heh, the xf is xfmail is for x-forms, an ancient widget toolkit :) |
| 12:57.06 | andrei_ | have you got yosemite? |
| 12:57.25 | andrei_ | lol fail |
| 12:57.49 | andrei_ | the last line wasn't for #brlcad |
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| 17:21.56 | sofat | brlcad, hello |
| 17:23.52 | sofat | brlcad, i need those pdf's files which you want to convert in docbook |
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| 17:58.05 | sofat | any body know about this "non-docbook docs" where it is? |
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| 18:44.38 | starseeker | sofat: did you have some particular document in mind? |
| 18:44.52 | starseeker | we have a lot of documentation that comes under the heading of "candidate for docbook" |
| 18:46.32 | sofat | i have not document |
| 18:46.57 | sofat | so i am asking if you provide me so i will start the work on it |
| 18:47.06 | sofat | and convert it to docbook |
| 18:47.55 | sofat | i have no document for conversion |
| 18:48.16 | sofat | and i don't know where it is |
| 18:50.37 | brlcad | ``Erik: ugh, looks like .bz is vulnerable to CVS-2015-0235 (along with the rest of the planet) |
| 18:50.44 | brlcad | probably going to be a big one... |
| 18:52.16 | sofat | brlcad, please provide me non-docbook docs |
| 18:52.18 | brlcad | sofat: i'm not sure which pdf files you're referring to |
| 18:52.26 | brlcad | non-docbook docs are in the doc directory |
| 18:52.40 | brlcad | i thought you were going to write up a wiki page? |
| 18:53.31 | sofat | yes i wrote this . |
| 18:53.33 | sofat | brlcad.org/wiki/Docbook |
| 18:55.54 | sofat | as soon as possible i will update the all sub tasks according to docbook project |
| 18:57.54 | brlcad | sofat: er, that's good, but not at all what I had in mind... :) |
| 18:58.23 | brlcad | at least, it's missing all the detail I was anticipating, perhaps these are the subtasks you mention |
| 18:59.05 | sofat | ok |
| 18:59.06 | brlcad | need a list for #2 (which I understand now is what you're asking for) |
| 18:59.36 | brlcad | which is also related to #3 |
| 19:00.02 | sofat | yes i am little bit confuse in this |
| 19:00.57 | brlcad | probably want something like "itemize existing documentation not in docbook format", then "categorize as needing conversion, scavenge, archive, or eliminate |
| 19:01.28 | brlcad | then convert those needing conversion, scavenge those needing scavenging, etc |
| 19:02.08 | brlcad | create a docbook documentation catalog / table of contents |
| 19:02.39 | brlcad | integrate new docs into build system |
| 19:02.55 | brlcad | synchronize docs onto the website |
| 19:03.14 | brlcad | the points you have in #5 are great, but are all three very different tasks |
| 19:03.38 | brlcad | I see this more as a TODO, not requirements |
| 19:05.19 | sofat | i think i have understood now very well |
| 19:05.51 | sofat | thanks so much |
| 19:11.06 | brlcad | the requirements are 1) to have all documentation in Docbook XML format and/or a simple text format that will convert to/from Docbook XML format, 2) have all documentation authoritatively stored under revision control, 3) have all documentation presented online, 4) support doc changes via the web or source file editing, and 5) synchronization (manual or automatic) of web with revision controlled content to reflect edits in either (i.e., round |
| 19:11.57 | brlcad | note that requirements are not actions ... I can acheive those 5 in many possible ways |
| 19:12.26 | brlcad | it is a good idea to spell out both, though, just making sure that all prescribed tasks pertain to one of the 5 requirements |
| 19:17.32 | sofat | ok i have understood your requirements. |
| 19:20.18 | brlcad | great! |
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| 19:36.51 | brlcad | sofat: you have a good idea for the wiki page to tate requirements and then it just needs your TODO plan for how exactly to achieve them :) |
| 19:38.01 | ``Erik | brlcad: the glibc gethostbyname() overrun? |
| 19:38.32 | brlcad | yeah |
| 19:38.41 | ``Erik | freebsd doesn't use glibc O.o it's a bsd |
| 19:38.57 | brlcad | I know ... |
| 19:39.21 | brlcad | see /tmp/*.c and the compiled CVE binary |
| 19:40.11 | brlcad | oh, hrm |
| 19:40.18 | brlcad | I just realized that I read the output wrong too |
| 19:40.22 | Stragus | What's the gethostbyname() issue? |
| 19:40.35 | Stragus | Besides being obsolete, non-reentrant and blocking... |
| 19:40.50 | brlcad | Stragus: most linux distros are remote rootable with a new issue that came out today |
| 19:40.58 | Stragus | Darn. |
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| 19:41.33 | brlcad | http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/01/27/9 |
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| 19:42.14 | ``Erik | gets "should not happen" O.o |
| 19:42.33 | brlcad | yeah, that's what i misread |
| 19:42.47 | Stragus | Ah, it was already fixed, kind of |
| 19:44.25 | brlcad | right, it's most of the stable and commercial distros |
| 19:44.56 | brlcad | very nice detailed analysis of the bug and even more extensive of the impact |
| 19:46.56 | ``Erik | heh, my ubuntu is already 'not vulnerable' |
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| 19:47.46 | brlcad | looks like that test assumes strcmp should match but gethostbyaddr_r should return ERANGE, which it's not on bsd |
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| 20:13.06 | brlcad | nmz787: any progress? |
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| 21:05.03 | ``Erik | neat (common lisp os) https://github.com/froggey/Mezzano |
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| 21:46.56 | ``Erik | doh, my audio gear is obsolete, I need a converter to go from the tv to the deck :( damn you, ever changing technology *shakes fist* |
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