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01:22.45BennzHow do submit your initialize proposal or early final proposal? Do you have to do it through the GSoC 2015 account?
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08:23.19dracarys983``Erik, brlcad, starseeker, I am getting this error while building (Rev 64483) : http://pastebin.com/TSpVK6cN
08:27.17dracarys983We need to disable -Werror flag?
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11:14.19piyushhi Everyone
11:14.29piyushmy name is piyush badkul and
11:14.55piyushi am a newbie and i want to try my hand in gsoc and also want to contribute in brlcad
11:15.08piyushpl guide me accordingly mentors
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11:16.47piyushi am interested in some project of web Develoepment ,Geometry,and infrastructure
11:16.53piyushpl reply ASAP
11:16.56piyushthankyou
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13:59.28lemurHi, I'm looking at the Vector Drawings from NURBS project, and I've submited a proposal, but I am unsure of the direction I've taken. I'd really like to talk it over with someone just to see if there are flaws in my logic that I've missed
14:00.17lemurit'd be much appreciated - message anytime, I'm avaliable more or less all day
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14:54.04lemurHm. Quick question, I've set out to take the edges that viewedge detects and then try and draw a control polygon and from that generate a spline curve, but without using NURBS. Is this a bad idea?
14:55.21lemurOnly the main reason I'm doing it is that the NURBS implementation doesn't seem far along enough, and to me at least it makes more sense to have vector image generation decoupled from NURBS if its not fully there yet.
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15:11.14``Eriklemur: I think viewedge does a lot of punting, I wouldn't trust it too far :/ last I heard, starseeker was the nurbs guy, might be worth talking to him?
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15:21.07brlcadstarseeker: haha, ready to do it again?  http://bazel.io ... totally kidding
15:21.40brlcaddracarys983: can't reach pastebin.com atm, another paste site?
15:21.58brlcadlemur: why are you unsure?
15:23.36brlcadlemur: using gridded sampling and fitting a spline curve isn't bad, it'll just take a *really* fine grid (like a 10000x10000 render), definitely not interactive at least unless you did dynamic sampling to only sample extra on/near edges
15:24.11brlcadnurbs ray tracing is fully there for solid models as far as we know
15:47.12lemurok,  well I guess if nurbs works, I have some rewriting to do :P
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16:20.35dracarys983brlcad, Here : http://tny.cz/455a7496
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16:28.30brlcaddracarys983: thx
16:29.08brlcadlemur: the fundamental problem you should address is how to obtain a contour of a nurbs surface
16:29.38brlcadlemur: you can certainly propose a sampled approach -- that is a perfectly valid first step
16:30.12brlcadlemur: but it may actually be easier to do surface projection (I don't know)
16:30.34brlcaddracarys983: soare you saying you don't know how to fix that error?
16:31.26brlcaddracarys983: you could certainly turn off strict, but that's a really trivial warning that you should know how to address in less than a minute if you read it :)
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16:33.02dracarys983brlcad, Yeah I just noticed the error but did not really try to fix it. I just thought about turning off strict
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16:38.25brlcaddracarys983: you should always read the error, otherwise you will not improve as a developer
16:38.32brlcadno matter whose code it is
16:39.09brlcadmost of the time, build errors are utterly trivial (especially when you build strict like we do)
16:39.21dracarys983brlcad, Yeah, sorry.
16:39.24brlcadyou'll eventually see the common patterns
16:39.51brlcadavoids making mountains out of mole hills ;)
16:40.19dracarys983Okay, I'll be careful now. :)
16:41.02dracarys983brlcad, I fixed it :)
16:41.53piyushhi everyone
16:42.29piyushmyself Piyush badkul and i am newbie and i want ot contribute to brl-cad and want to try my hand in gsox
16:42.31piyushgsoc
16:42.41piyushpl guide me accordingly
16:42.54piyushand tell me where to start off
16:44.40teepee--piyush: did you read the gsoc page in the brl-cad wiki?
16:47.45brlcadpiyush: we talk openly, no need to PM
16:48.48dracarys983brlcad, I'm really sorry. I was so worried about GSoC that I didn't pay attention to the error and didn't fix it.
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16:53.42brlcaddracarys983: you don't need dwell on it or be sorry, we're all learning
16:55.58dracarys983hm okay :)
16:57.54brlcadhuh, RenderMan is finally free (for non-commercial)
16:59.07teepee--is it still much ahead of other (especially open source) stuff?
16:59.15lemurbrlcad, when it comes to the proposal
16:59.30lemurare we wanting to give the high level overview of how we are going to do this
16:59.34teepee--the progress on the cycles render engine in blender seems impressive
16:59.45lemurthis being whatever we are setting out to do
17:00.13lemurI'm a bit torn between the two directions hah
17:01.12brlcadteepee--: yeah ...
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17:01.49albertcoderHi brlcad I read your mail regarding previous year's GSoC students, I have been hesitant to ask but I want to know can previous year's students apply this year? Even if it is a NO I would be happy to work along / contribute / guide. :)
17:01.51brlcadcycles is good (really that's all OSL from SonyImageworks)
17:02.31brlcadbasically pixar vs sony rendering infrastructure ... somewhat different feature sets and target audiences
17:03.08brlcadboth top notch, but both doing things the other can't touch (as efficiently)
17:03.41teepee--ahh, I do like that nodes editor very much
17:04.12brlcadalbertcoder: I don't understand -- the e-mail talks about that, and I believe directly answers your question
17:06.45albertcoderbrlcad: Yeah I understand our priority is less but I wanted to ask how should I be contributing via patch or pushing directly into brlcad github?
17:08.59brlcadalbertcoder: depends what you modify, but if you have push access that would make the most sense
17:10.00brlcadreally the emphasis first is on what you'd propose doing this summer, since you've predominantly demonstrated your coding ability level already
17:10.23brlcadand if you can tie to to one of the four associate orgs, even better -- maybe two proposals if you're really serious
17:10.34brlcadone for brl-cad one for associate org
17:13.00brlcadthe point is to expand and encourage collaboration and get things into production use, which predominantly didn't happen after last summer
17:13.25brlcadogv, materialsdb, and benchmark are still offline, which is unfortunate and was a factor
17:13.26albertcoderYeah I am thinking of applying in STEPcode too (but not having any prior experience with it is discouraging me do so) since it has some good association with BRL-CAD too.
17:13.54albertcoderRight! That shouldn't have happened.
17:13.57brlcadoffline == not ready for users
17:15.18brlcadmy fault for not pressing production use more, or being more encouraging about just how important those efforts are
17:16.26albertcoderI am very much aware of that, that is why I chose to take this project as my major project. I am determined to make it production ready with / without GSoC.
17:16.27brlcadalbertcoder: yeah, STEPcode can be tricky because it's a lot of complex code -- might I suggest talking with LinuxCNC?  they haven't gotten a whole lot of interest yet
17:17.41albertcoderumm Yeah that's cool too.
17:17.58brlcadif you have time, propose both and we'll see how things shake out
17:18.18brlcadit's hard to say as it will HEAVILY depend on what mentors are available
17:18.28albertcoderalright, I will.
17:18.39albertcoderYeah that's an issue too.
17:21.04albertcoderOkay I will be glad to help out the new materialsdb aspirants too but I too wanted to ask what further is expected from that project? I have been working improving export / import (need some discussion on this), dynamic table creation etc.
17:22.08albertcoderI have some minor enhancements in mind but what in the end is expected from it right now?
17:23.27albertcoderI heard from you once that applying the properties to the models has been worked upon by minhaecsu.
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17:24.09brlcadyeah, tying those two together, making it production viable, get tools talking to it with clean / transparent usability
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17:27.10brlcadI don't know that it even needs to do much more than it does -- the site needs to get set up proper, themed, needs to be integrated with tools, etc.. finish it
17:29.51albertcoderAlright, tools like? Are you talking about gqa, rtcheck or something else?
17:31.43albertcoderI mean are you saying to work on feeding the properties to these tools?
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17:34.19albertcoderI would like to listen a few words regarding the import feature too. I mean till now I have been able to import the properties from a JSON file. Where are we preparing to import the properties from?  
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17:37.17dracarys983``Erik, Did you see my proposal then? :P
17:37.59sofatbrlcad, I am comfortable with both(mediawiki and wordpress) I have made plugins and extensions  so are you going with mediawiki or wordpress ?
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20:02.34riesbrlcad: On Google Melange do I re-create a profile?
20:02.53riesI think I am 'gone' and I did sign up for 2015
20:02.56riesos confused
20:03.33andrei_ries: if you log in with the same e-mail you did previously I believe it should be the same
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20:04.05teepeeries: yes, it's a new profile
20:04.17teepeeeven with the same email
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20:07.52riesteepee: ok, le tme sign up once more then :)
20:10.36andrei_ries: how's gsoc going on at LibreCAD ?
20:11.08riesandrei_: we are getting a bit of attention... our previous student and two possible two new students
20:11.36andrei_awesome
20:12.05andrei_in the timeline, from the moment applications close  to the date results are published
20:12.13andrei_there s a period label " orgs might request additional details"
20:12.22andrei_do you know if students' can edit their proposals in this period?
20:12.51riesandrei_: yes they can, what we do is that they only modify it when asked
20:13.16andrei_ah, so you need some sort of "permission" ?
20:15.49riesI think they can just edit it
20:15.58riesbut we ask them not to edit it after submissions
20:16.05rieselse you run into the issue that you read it..
20:16.13riesthen you judge it.. and they change it later on
20:16.30riesIf we see potential but there is still somethingg off, we ask them to edit/re-evaluate
20:16.55andrei_makes sense
20:19.38teepeeandrei_: there's a switch on the proposal where the mentor can make it editable again
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