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| 12:27.39 | thehummingbird | Hello,I'm new to open source.Can anyone help me in getting started? |
| 12:27.48 | thehummingbird | Interested in BRL Cad |
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| 17:34.38 | brlcad | sofat_: if you would like to discuss, I am briefly available |
| 17:34.55 | sofat_ | yes |
| 17:35.00 | brlcad | sofat_: please send future e-mails to the mailing list |
| 17:35.01 | sofat_ | i am working |
| 17:35.07 | sofat_ | ok |
| 17:35.33 | sofat_ | " darken the background on the top-level menu options. not black, just a little more dark." explain this |
| 17:35.44 | sofat_ | you talk about hover effect ? |
| 17:35.49 | brlcad | no |
| 17:36.26 | sofat_ | please tell me more about this change |
| 17:37.58 | brlcad | the background color is currently a light grey |
| 17:38.08 | brlcad | the menu background color is currently a light grey |
| 17:38.28 | sofat_ | yes |
| 17:38.32 | brlcad | the page background color is white |
| 17:38.37 | sofat_ | yes |
| 17:38.52 | brlcad | the top navigation menu is very dark (I think #222) |
| 17:38.57 | sofat_ | yes |
| 17:39.00 | sofat_ | main menu |
| 17:39.48 | brlcad | the side menu is much lighter |
| 17:39.48 | sofat_ | you talking about which menu hold logo and home link etc ? |
| 17:40.05 | sofat_ | yes lighter |
| 17:40.16 | brlcad | the side menu needs to be darker |
| 17:40.21 | brlcad | not as dark as the top menu |
| 17:40.31 | brlcad | what is the current color? |
| 17:40.32 | sofat_ | right menu is lighter . |
| 17:40.46 | brlcad | left menu |
| 17:41.00 | sofat_ | ok i got it |
| 17:41.14 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: Hey, I have send you an email 2 days before have you checked that one. |
| 17:41.31 | ih8sum3r | Regarding .vdi file. |
| 17:41.47 | brlcad | sofat_: maybe 444 or 666 |
| 17:41.56 | sofat_ | for what ? |
| 17:42.03 | brlcad | the darker color |
| 17:42.05 | sofat_ | ok |
| 17:42.38 | brlcad | sofat_: did you understand the other two changes? |
| 17:44.11 | sofat_ | yes i understand |
| 17:44.17 | brlcad | okay great |
| 17:45.04 | brlcad | sofat_: I think we just need to make your goal to match what blender did exactly |
| 17:45.21 | sofat_ | yes |
| 17:45.22 | brlcad | including all colors except our red where they use blue |
| 17:45.29 | brlcad | http://www.blender.org/manual/getting_started/index.html |
| 17:46.15 | brlcad | you may even want to look at their code to see how they get that behavior |
| 17:46.44 | sofat_ | I cant get any code of this menu |
| 17:46.56 | brlcad | why? |
| 17:47.04 | sofat_ | where is code ? |
| 17:47.11 | brlcad | I don't know |
| 17:48.07 | brlcad | the point is the appearance |
| 17:48.15 | sofat_ | I also don't know I just open the view source of web site and try to find something useful for me but I could not able to found any useful code library etc. |
| 17:48.16 | brlcad | how you get there IS your task |
| 17:48.28 | sofat_ | IS ? |
| 17:49.01 | sofat_ | which library I used its not more customizable. |
| 17:49.12 | sofat_ | what is IS? |
| 17:49.30 | brlcad | emphasis |
| 17:49.31 | brlcad | *is* |
| 17:49.37 | brlcad | it is your task |
| 17:50.04 | sofat_ | hmm |
| 17:50.08 | brlcad | finding code is not your task |
| 17:50.19 | brlcad | finding a library that does everything you need is not your task |
| 17:50.25 | brlcad | making it work is your task :) |
| 17:50.59 | sofat_ | yes i understand and you also see i am trying daily to make useful |
| 17:51.01 | brlcad | you have the mechanics in place already .. a menu that works |
| 17:51.15 | brlcad | yes, I see that you're trying and working daily |
| 17:51.18 | brlcad | this is certainly good |
| 17:51.25 | brlcad | we're just not making hardly any progress |
| 17:51.34 | brlcad | this is certainly not good |
| 17:52.04 | brlcad | it's taking a LOT of time to discuss issues and changes with you over and over |
| 17:52.42 | sofat_ | yes I know |
| 17:52.59 | sofat_ | some is possible to do some not possible to do |
| 17:53.20 | brlcad | this is simply not sustainable interaction |
| 17:53.41 | sofat_ | hmm |
| 17:53.51 | brlcad | you're getting a lot of discussion while others are not, and a lot of it is wasted because you don't understand or it's technically hard/not possible |
| 17:53.58 | brlcad | other students are getting ignored and that is not fair to them |
| 17:54.11 | brlcad | you have to be more independent and figure out these problems |
| 17:54.28 | brlcad | blender is displaying a working example, match it |
| 17:55.12 | brlcad | I think you have all the pieces you need -- it's mostly css styling missing |
| 17:55.35 | brlcad | unfortunately, these are the most important in order to publish this work |
| 17:55.58 | brlcad | you've made *great* progress |
| 17:56.12 | brlcad | the fact that css/appearance is the main aspect remaining is good |
| 17:56.41 | brlcad | but you have to be able to finish the work without me specifying every single detail like 1px borders and background colors |
| 17:57.07 | brlcad | just match blender in look at behavior as closely as you possibly can .. |
| 17:57.23 | brlcad | does that sound achievable? |
| 18:02.36 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: Do we have virtualbox installed on .bz server? |
| 18:07.20 | sofat | Yes |
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| 18:15.22 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: yes, 4.3.30 |
| 18:16.23 | ih8sum3r | should I upload .vdi file over .bz and test it. Becuase on my system and in my virtual enviornment me getting errors on errors :( |
| 18:20.21 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: Need your little advice / suggestion can you please spare a little for me. |
| 18:38.50 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: what kind of errors? |
| 18:39.01 | brlcad | errors in the image? |
| 18:39.06 | brlcad | the vm? |
| 18:39.31 | ih8sum3r | I Error while loading image on server. |
| 18:39.56 | brlcad | that is an ambiguous answer... :) |
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| 18:40.34 | brlcad | please be more specific |
| 18:41.57 | ih8sum3r | I use to run virtual machine inside virtual machine. I set up enviornment somewhat like our. I first installed freebsd 10.1 and then installed VM inside it. And next inside freebsd I installed VM again and try to run that image (.vdi) file. But everytime I used to run it it aborted after few minutes. |
| 18:42.14 | brlcad | VM instide a VM? |
| 18:42.28 | ih8sum3r | s / instide / inside |
| 18:42.39 | brlcad | ahh, vm running fbsd running virtualbox |
| 18:42.48 | brlcad | you don't need to be running vbox within fbsd... |
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| 18:43.31 | brlcad | if everything is working in the vbox image, upload your image to the server and we can test it |
| 18:44.09 | ih8sum3r | Also I did the same but with ubuntu server. |
| 18:44.24 | ih8sum3r | but faced same error. |
| 18:44.40 | ih8sum3r | I support 32 bit version it that true? |
| 18:44.49 | ih8sum3r | s / I / It |
| 18:45.37 | brlcad | But everytime I used to run it it aborted after few |
| 18:45.40 | sofat_ | brlcad, I have update the first three changes . |
| 18:45.47 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: what does that mean? |
| 18:47.07 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: It automatically stops. After getting grub screen, it goes blank and aborted. |
| 18:47.37 | brlcad | please restate without using the word "it" |
| 18:50.49 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: sorry, but response is taking too long, I have to go now |
| 18:51.12 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: Should I mail you everything n detail? |
| 18:51.39 | brlcad | you can summarize to the mailing list |
| 18:51.57 | sofat_ | I update the search box size also. |
| 18:51.58 | brlcad | if the VM environment is crashing, that is something you can fix |
| 18:52.11 | brlcad | if virtualbox is crashing, that's soemthing you probably cannot fix |
| 18:52.43 | ih8sum3r | Okay I post everything on mailing list in detail. Yes I'm looking for the solution will report asap. |
| 18:57.04 | brlcad | sofat_: the darker color is better, but it's too dark |
| 18:57.41 | brlcad | please just match blender's colors |
| 18:57.44 | brlcad | exactly |
| 19:02.17 | ih8sum3r | brlcad: Our server VM support only 32 bit iso or both? |
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| 20:58.58 | brlcad | ih8sum3r: don't know |
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