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| 01:33.19 | boj | Hi, thanks for your suggestion, I will try it later. I am now working on the proposal and trying to make sure what I need to do :) |
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| 05:20.12 | Amrinder | Hello, I'm still facing problem in meteor |
| 05:20.20 | Amrinder | error is as |
| 05:20.36 | Amrinder | While processing files with templating (for target web.browser): index.html:2: Can't set DOCTYPE here. (Meteor sets <!DOCTYPE html> for you) => Your application has errors. Waiting for file change. |
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| 07:05.46 | jasvir | hi starseeker. I have some query about qged. From gui, I can see that qged can read objects but unable to draw. I have read code but not that deeply. Can you please tell me that what type of work is already been completed to start drawing. Like if I create an OpenGL widget in qt, what type of work will we have to do next? |
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| 15:00.52 | starseeker | jasvir_: no work has been started on drawing |
| 15:01.26 | starseeker | you'll have to provide the opengl context to libdm, and study MGED's mouse bindings and figure out how to re-create them in a Qt widget |
| 15:02.44 | starseeker | you'll need to read the code quite deeply (qged, mged and libdm) to understand how all the pieces will need to fit together, as well as doing some new design work on a Qt widget |
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| 15:22.13 | ``Erik | huh, cerdec in the news https://thestack.com/world/2016/03/16/u-s-army-developing-encrypted-radar-waveform/ |
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| 16:03.47 | brlcad | ``Erik: yeah, saw that |
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| 16:47.27 | jasvir | starseeker: Yeah I am reading libdm's code currently. I am focusing on dm-ogl* and dm-qt* for libdm |
| 16:53.07 | jasvir | starseeker: is src/libdm/dm-qt* in use somehow? |
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| 17:01.39 | brlcad | jasvir: the qt display manager is an incomplete dev project |
| 17:01.48 | brlcad | so no, not in use anywhere |
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| 17:05.35 | jasvir | brlcad: If I am not wrong, it is supposed to be used in drawing entities on Qt openGL by processing openGL context. Is that so? |
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| 17:45.56 | zaverichintan | Shubham chauhan, Can you please help me out to review the bug list https://docs.google.com/document/d/13rkz667O9gV8l-d1bUGG8AiydI0cNCwBVBjicRwhIWM/edit?usp=docslist_api |
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| 18:38.28 | starseeker | jasvir: I'm not sure what that code specifically is for - the idea of the Qt libdm layer originally was to use Qt itself (the Qt canvas) rather than OpenGL as a drawing layer - in essence a portable version of our X24 libdm backend |
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| 18:39.40 | starseeker | jasvir: that's a bit orthogonal to the qged effort. I expect the dm-osgl backend is probably going to be best suited for Qt integration at the moment, since it is intended to be cross platform |
| 18:48.22 | jasvir | starseeker: Oh! That's why I was confused about from where I should continue. I thought I am supposed to use dm-qt but it was using tk somehow and it made some spaghetti images about code in my mind. |
| 18:49.03 | jasvir | I have already gone through dm-ogl |
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| 19:31.01 | jasvir | starseeker: can you please brief me about src/mged and src/libged? |
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| 20:07.25 | brlcad | jasvir: that's fishing, please don't fish :) |
| 20:09.48 | brlcad | what I mean by that is you're asking someone else to do work that you are perfectly capable of doing yourself (at least as far as you have expressed in terms of technical content) |
| 20:10.00 | brlcad | if you have a specific technical question about mged or libged, you should ask that |
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| 20:11.17 | brlcad | asking to be briefed or guided is not productive for starseeker or anyone else except yourself, and any response may not even help you with what you really need to know |
| 20:11.49 | brlcad | that's why you should ask questions, and ask smart questions, not ones that are trivially found by searching the code or (worse) a quick google search |
| 20:12.36 | brlcad | make sense? |
| 20:13.37 | Ch3ck | hi brlcad |
| 20:15.10 | brlcad | hi Ch3ck |
| 20:15.42 | brlcad | starseeker: seeing approximate ~13% build time reduction on linux with the doc changes |
| 20:16.18 | brlcad | across a cycle of cmake+make+make+make clean |
| 20:16.58 | Ch3ck | brlcad: I try running mged from my Fedora distro and I get only the text editor, no GUI |
| 20:17.07 | Ch3ck | I don't know if it's something I did wrong |
| 20:48.30 | jasvir | brlcad: I am not asking to explain the code but I assumed that src/mged is all that is related to MGED and I was reading the code but I suddenly realize that there is libged and I got a bit confused. I wanted to know about it. Both are having functionalities that are related to drawing but all I get that src/mged is related to user interactions. I think I have used wrong words. Thanks for pointing it out. |
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| 20:56.12 | ``Erik | jasvir: it used to be all mged, but we've tried to split the 'controller' type stuff to libged/ and have mged/ be 'view' type stuff. The End. :) |
| 20:57.17 | jasvir | ``Erik: Thanks erik :) |
| 21:02.25 | brlcad | Ch3ck: cmake almost certainly failed to detect X11 developer libs |
| 21:03.24 | brlcad | jasvir: wanting to know about it is asking to explain... :) |
| 21:03.40 | brlcad | providing context like you just did is much better and not as open-ended |
| 21:04.21 | jasvir | brlcad: Yes I got. I used wrong words. Thanks |
| 21:04.38 | brlcad | I strongly encourage you to do a search on "smart questions" and read the paper by ESR (in full) .. it's very insightful on how to ask questions that don't leech off others |
| 21:05.19 | brlcad | jasvir: I'm not sure you're getting the point -- what were the right words? |
| 21:05.54 | brlcad | even with your detailed explanation, that's better but you still didn't ask a question |
| 21:06.11 | ``Erik | !notify ask |
| 21:06.12 | Notify | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
| 21:06.21 | ``Erik | ~esr |
| 21:06.21 | infobot | from memory, esr is a very clever Linux d00d with lots of very interesting philosophical and political texts. a guy who has some ideas about guns The geezer who wrote Cathedral and Bazaar.. Eric S. Raymond, or somebody whose sgeigerbot's computer thinks about when it boots: "ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000", or perhaps Extended Status Register |
| 21:06.35 | ``Erik | poop, thought there was a catb link |
| 21:06.54 | ``Erik | brlcad: check pm re new server setup |
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| 21:07.05 | brlcad | jasvir: the point is that you should ask questions, not ask for general information |
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| 21:08.08 | jasvir | brlcad: my rephrased question was not good enough to convey my thoughts? |
| 21:08.35 | jasvir | brlcad: I understand what you are trying to say. |
| 21:08.48 | brlcad | e.g., instead of "brief me" or "I want to know about XXX", you could have asked something like "I see mged and libged have related functionality, but how do they interact?" |
| 21:09.41 | brlcad | no, your rephrased question was not good enough .. because you didn't actually ask a question :) |
| 21:13.49 | jasvir | brlcad: |
| 21:13.57 | jasvir | I got it |
| 21:14.11 | jasvir | will take care of it in future. |
| 21:14.18 | brlcad | no worries |
| 21:14.37 | brlcad | and not anything to be embarrassed by, this is a common thing for people new to open source |
| 21:14.50 | brlcad | that's why reading that "smart questions" paper is a thing |
| 21:15.38 | brlcad | http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 21:16.57 | jasvir | Thanks :) |
| 21:17.03 | jasvir | I'll definitely read it |
| 21:18.27 | ``Erik | !notify smartquestion |
| 21:18.27 | Notify | Learn how to ask a smart question: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 21:18.54 | ``Erik | boosh. |
| 21:25.23 | Stragus | Eh, we have seen worse :) |
| 21:25.37 | Stragus | Can I ask to ask? I found a bug and it doesn't work. Also, it's homework |
| 21:25.41 | Stragus | hides |
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| 21:39.50 | brlcad | ~stragus++ |
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| 22:41.43 | jasvir | Stragus: ;) |
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| 23:18.34 | starseeker | brlcad: sweet! (build time reduction) |
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