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| 08:30.28 | tflendrich | hello everyone :) Let me introduce myself: I'm Tomasz, a student interested in taking part in GSOC with BRL-CAD |
| 08:31.54 | tflendrich | a year ago, you had lots of interesting project ideas and it hasn't changed a bit, so it's hard to choose something (not that I complain that there's much to do) |
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| 08:57.27 | ickby | tflendrich: make sure to also have a look at the other organisations which applied together with brl-cad, for example linuxcnc, stepcode, librecad and freecad |
| 08:57.37 | ickby | for freecad the ideas are here:http://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Google_Summer_of_Code |
| 08:57.49 | ickby | disclaimer: I'm from the freecad dev team, :) |
| 09:04.13 | tflendrich | ickby: haha, thanks! |
| 09:05.18 | ickby | your welcome :) it just seems that most studends do not realized that the BRL-CAD GSoC organisation is a combined proposal of multiple orgs, so I'm mentioning that from time to time |
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| 17:28.45 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67394 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/rm.xml brlcad/trunk/src/libged/CMakeLists.txt): Revert work on rm command - won't be ready for prime-time by release, so go with old behavior. |
| 17:30.02 | brlcad | tflendrich: welcome |
| 17:30.28 | brlcad | tflendrich: note that our ideas list is a little out of date -- we do have some priority topics this year, which you can see on the brlcad-devel mailing list archives |
| 17:30.41 | brlcad | might help you narrow down on a topic |
| 17:31.04 | brlcad | and definitely check out our partner orgs! |
| 17:31.25 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67395 brlcad/trunk/TODO: Put rm work in the backlog |
| 17:32.51 | brlcad | tflendrich: to answer your private question, we don't know how many slots will be assigned, but we do want each partner org to have a student or two working |
| 17:33.54 | starseeker | brlcad: did you want a preliminary look at my thoughts on analyze command options, or should I go ahead and toss them into the libged TODO entry? |
| 17:34.45 | brlcad | tflendrich: some more, some less |
| 17:34.56 | brlcad | starseeker: sure, either way |
| 17:35.30 | starseeker | k, just didn't want a student to start in on it before we're done hashing it out - I doubt very much this is final form... |
| 17:43.42 | brlcad | I got no analyze religion other than KISS |
| 17:44.01 | tflendrich | brlcad: okay, thanks |
| 17:45.21 | starseeker | heh. this is probably doomed then, but I'll toss it up anyway. |
| 17:45.52 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67396 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/TODO: Add some very preliminary thought on what a general/unified analyze command might look like... |
| 17:50.49 | starseeker | brlcad: do you happen to remember what specifically to look for with Windows wireframes (TODO entry?) I've drawn a few simple things like moss.g in MGED windows in recent BRL-CAD Windows builds successfully... |
| 17:51.03 | brlcad | what does --visualize do? |
| 17:51.25 | starseeker | draw the wireframe of the bounding box, the dot for the centroid, the mesh for the convex hull, etc. |
| 17:51.35 | starseeker | without creating actual geometry objects |
| 17:52.32 | brlcad | starseeker: TODO was just a quick sanity check to make sure they weren't horribly brokwn by a change |
| 17:52.41 | brlcad | so if you saw a wireframe, not horked :) |
| 17:52.46 | starseeker | cool :-) |
| 17:53.11 | starseeker | will re-confirm once the latest build completes (need binary with reverted rm command) then I'll nuke that one |
| 17:56.40 | brlcad | starseeker: command design looks pretty good to me, looks like you covered most things |
| 17:57.35 | starseeker | is tempted to support =obj.s syntax for components too (easy way to extract a set of faces from a B-Rep, say) but that would probably expand the scope of the command too far |
| 17:57.37 | brlcad | not sure we have consistent terminology .. a surface and a face are synonymous or ambiguous |
| 17:57.48 | starseeker | different in B-Rep, same in mesh |
| 17:58.39 | brlcad | right |
| 17:59.06 | starseeker | and other primitives will have primitive specific piece parts (like the voxel example) |
| 17:59.12 | starseeker | open to ideas on that |
| 17:59.23 | brlcad | would be good to generalize to all entities if we can |
| 17:59.27 | starseeker | nods |
| 18:00.35 | brlcad | to simplify the interface and code, might make sense to only support one analysis at a time |
| 18:01.04 | brlcad | since the other options will very likely vary per property (e.g., tolerance and visualize) |
| 18:01.26 | brlcad | an option to create the geometry would be good, might be mergable with visualize |
| 18:01.32 | starseeker | hmm - good point. visualize I can see working mulitple property, but tolerance is a stopper |
| 18:01.54 | starseeker | that may preclude folding gqa under this then |
| 18:02.26 | starseeker | users won't want to re-run raytracing to get (say) volume and moment of inertia if the raytracing is expensive |
| 18:02.38 | brlcad | you might want to visualize one prop, like bbox, and might be surprised at all the stuff created by other properties (e.g., overlap) |
| 18:02.48 | starseeker | true |
| 18:03.05 | brlcad | yes, agreed, but we can handle that by giving analyze a context it can reuse |
| 18:03.15 | starseeker | ah - some sort of cache? |
| 18:03.41 | brlcad | hey good idea.. wasn't specifically thinking that, but even better |
| 18:04.06 | brlcad | was thinking a command-specific hook in the ged struct where it could hang a container |
| 18:04.11 | starseeker | create an "analysis object" that can then be interrogated for various properties... |
| 18:04.13 | brlcad | but having a global cache is even better |
| 18:04.21 | brlcad | (accessed via the ged struct) |
| 18:04.51 | brlcad | brb |
| 18:04.57 | starseeker | nods |
| 18:08.06 | starseeker | confirmed - wireframes came up in mged |
| 18:09.03 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67397 brlcad/trunk/TODO: Wireframes do draw on Windows with MGED. |
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| 19:31.05 | brlcad | wonders why 67398 indented the int function return types |
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| 22:06.42 | starseeker | brlcad: sorry about that - my vim setup does that automatically for some reason |
| 22:07.06 | starseeker | usually I fix them manually - forgot to there because that's an intermediate checkpoint |