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| 02:10.51 | wps | does anyone know who 'ArchAngel_Nix' is? |
| 02:11.02 | wps | he/she was looking for help earlier |
| 02:12.00 | wps | ah-hah |
| 02:12.02 | wps | found it |
| 02:12.16 | wps | he is using the same nick for his site account |
| 02:12.18 | wps | it's Mike Holly |
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| 02:18.18 | ArchAngel_Nix | I just noticed your email Wade. |
| 02:18.28 | ArchAngel_Nix | Thanks for responding. |
| 02:18.59 | ArchAngel_Nix | The question I had earlier, wps, was about div tags. |
| 02:20.22 | ArchAngel_Nix | Could you by chance send me a sample html & css files using div tags. I prefer to learn by looking at examples of it done, instead of abstracts and the theory behind it. |
| 02:24.53 | wps | sure |
| 02:25.08 | wps | what kind of layout? |
| 02:26.30 | ArchAngel_Nix | Simple. Maybe a few containers so I can get an idea. |
| 02:26.47 | ArchAngel_Nix | I am going to redo my website, use div tags instead of tables. |
| 02:26.53 | ArchAngel_Nix | http://www.sonsofhelaman.com |
| 02:27.24 | wps | (you're redirect is sending to a missing page) |
| 02:27.30 | wps | *your |
| 02:27.31 | ArchAngel_Nix | I haven't updated the page in some time though, so when I finally get to doing it I want to revamp it. |
| 02:27.58 | wps | how's this... |
| 02:28.00 | wps | http://bluerobot.com/web/layouts/layout3.html |
| 02:28.28 | ArchAngel_Nix | That is odd. When I went to the URL it worked. |
| 02:28.35 | ArchAngel_Nix | Try this; http://www.sonsofhelaman.com/news.html |
| 02:28.42 | wps | that worked |
| 02:29.25 | ArchAngel_Nix | What I am most concerned with is my news containers. |
| 02:29.42 | ArchAngel_Nix | The way of built them, I am not sure how to do that in div tags. |
| 02:29.58 | ArchAngel_Nix | I think how I did it is somewhat of a hack. |
| 02:30.25 | ArchAngel_Nix | Jimmy rigging rather. |
| 02:33.33 | ArchAngel_Nix | I use a lot of alpha transparencies in PNGs so my site isn't IE friendly. |
| 02:33.39 | wps | sucks, huh |
| 02:33.43 | wps | alpha rocks |
| 02:33.47 | ArchAngel_Nix | I kind of like make a website that isn't IE compliant. |
| 02:34.05 | ArchAngel_Nix | But I'd imagine that isn't very hard... :-D |
| 02:34.38 | wps | true |
| 02:35.22 | ArchAngel_Nix | Did you by chance look how I built my boxes that hold my text? |
| 02:35.35 | wps | I did |
| 02:35.43 | wps | I'm putting together a div example |
| 02:37.01 | ArchAngel_Nix | I don't know that much about how to use CSS. I know of it's potential, but don't know how to manipulate it, so I appreciate your help. |
| 02:37.23 | wps | one thing I just noticed... be sure to name everything lowercase |
| 02:37.30 | wps | filenames... image names... etc. |
| 02:37.53 | ArchAngel_Nix | Right. |
| 02:38.46 | ArchAngel_Nix | I am afraid that site was made during my transitional stage, I have both naming conventions in use all over the site. |
| 02:39.37 | ArchAngel_Nix | After using the Terminal as much as I do, I hate it when something has a "%20" or uppercased in the name. |
| 02:39.53 | ArchAngel_Nix | That is until I discovered auto complete by pressing tab. Very nice! |
| 02:41.30 | wps | for sure |
| 02:46.55 | ArchAngel_Nix | Also I looked for the "free" version of Zend Studio... After 21 days it cripples the program and not worth using after that. |
| 02:49.02 | wps | is that the trial or the student version? |
| 02:50.50 | ArchAngel_Nix | It is the Personal version |
| 02:51.09 | ArchAngel_Nix | Which is essential the trial version after the trial is over. |
| 02:51.28 | ArchAngel_Nix | I didn't say any reference to a Student/Education version. |
| 02:54.58 | wps | I'd grab a link, but Zend's site is down |
| 02:55.18 | wps | sorry this is taking a few minutes... it tacks more code because of all the transparency in use |
| 02:58.15 | wps | almost done |
| 03:00.37 | ArchAngel_Nix | No prob. I am doing some English homework right now. |
| 03:00.48 | ArchAngel_Nix | Thanks again. |
| 03:11.27 | wps | sorry... i'm back... had to change the laundry |
| 03:12.28 | ArchAngel_Nix | That is fine. |
| 03:12.57 | ArchAngel_Nix | I am about to jump into a game of War III with my roommates. |
| 03:14.31 | wps | *uploading files* |
| 03:15.22 | ArchAngel_Nix | k |
| 03:15.32 | wps | example: http://anavidesign.com/temp/box/ |
| 03:16.32 | wps | now, if you weren't using all of the transparent images (not that I am discouraging it), you wouldn't need quite as much code (divs within divs) |
| 03:17.11 | ArchAngel_Nix | Right. |
| 03:17.33 | ArchAngel_Nix | Thanks. |
| 03:17.34 | wps | but here, we cannot have divs overlapping others or we get funny results because 20% alpha of one image plus 20% alpha of another equals 40% and you get bad results |
| 03:17.38 | wps | you're welcome |
| 03:18.04 | ArchAngel_Nix | I will probably change the way I do that site, so it isn't overlapping so much. |
| 03:18.45 | wps | normally, it's an excellent approach... just doesn't work with the border |
| 03:19.11 | ArchAngel_Nix | Right. |
| 03:19.29 | ArchAngel_Nix | My brother did most of the artwork and I dealt with what he made. |
| 03:19.58 | wps | #adium |
| 03:20.31 | wps | excuse that... typed in the wrong window |
| 03:20.43 | ArchAngel_Nix | I really appreciate the example. I am going to take off now and play some W3. I will let you know how everything goes. |
| 03:20.50 | ArchAngel_Nix | No problem. |
| 03:20.53 | ArchAngel_Nix | Tah |
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