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| 20:02.08 | bep27 | Hey anyone there? |
| 20:02.25 | feutetejsd | yup |
| 20:03.00 | bep27 | I am having some problems with an error that is showing up in my system.log about every 2 seconds |
| 20:03.11 | bep27 | Do you think you could help me out with that? |
| 20:03.20 | feutetejsd | I'll do my best, sure |
| 20:03.24 | bep27 | :) |
| 20:03.27 | bep27 | Thanks |
| 20:04.04 | bep27 | Note that I have checked the etc/crontab so see if any cronjob was running and none are |
| 20:04.42 | feutetejsd | ok...anything in any user crontabs? |
| 20:05.11 | bep27 | momento |
| 20:08.03 | feutetejsd | oh, and what's the error in system.log :D |
| 20:08.15 | bep27 | I have looked at all the Users and there are no crontabs runnin for other users |
| 20:09.09 | feutetejsd | ok |
| 20:09.13 | bep27 | It says "localhost open{22599]: No Shuch File: /Applications/Now Up-to-date & Contact/Now Contact - OS X/Contents/MacOS/Quick Contact.app |
| 20:09.17 | bep27 | Few |
| 20:09.32 | bep27 | It says "localhost open[22599]: No Shuch File: /Applications/Now Up-to-date & Contact/Now Contact - OS X/Contents/MacOS/Quick Contact.app" |
| 20:09.49 | bep27 | and the 22599 increments |
| 20:10.27 | feutetejsd | interesting....have you recently removed any software? |
| 20:11.11 | bep27 | Yes |
| 20:11.57 | feutetejsd | what did you remove? |
| 20:12.48 | bep27 | Poweron: Now Up-to-date & Contact |
| 20:13.25 | feutetejsd | is there anything in your (or any other) user's startup items in the system preferences? |
| 20:13.42 | feutetejsd | referring to that software, I mean |
| 20:13.47 | bep27 | Let me check |
| 20:14.35 | bep27 | System Events |
| 20:14.40 | bep27 | Would it be that one? |
| 20:15.13 | feutetejsd | not sure what that is...I don't have it in my startup items, so I doubt it's an OS item... |
| 20:15.20 | bep27 | K |
| 20:15.24 | feutetejsd | but it's name sounds a little suspicious.... |
| 20:15.33 | feutetejsd | I mean, suspicious as a possible culprit |
| 20:15.40 | bep27 | Well let me try |
| 20:16.20 | feutetejsd | of course, removing it from the startup items won't stop it from running if it is currently running in the background |
| 20:16.26 | feutetejsd | just at next login |
| 20:16.32 | feutetejsd | er...reboot, in this case |
| 20:17.48 | macnewbold | bep27: did you get your thing figured out? |
| 20:18.03 | macnewbold | the 22599 is a process ID number, so it's process 22599 that is causing it |
| 20:18.14 | bep27 | well |
| 20:18.17 | feutetejsd | good point...that would help nail down the culprit |
| 20:18.23 | bep27 | It is incrementing every 2 seconds |
| 20:18.34 | bep27 | 22602 |
| 20:18.36 | bep27 | 22603 |
| 20:18.38 | bep27 | 22604 |
| 20:18.47 | feutetejsd | ps auwx | grep 226 |
| 20:18.48 | bep27 | Kinda hard to catch and kill |
| 20:18.51 | bep27 | k |
| 20:19.05 | feutetejsd | at least you might be able to get a handful of processes to look through |
| 20:19.07 | macnewbold | ah, they go up by one |
| 20:19.16 | bep27 | Yeah |
| 20:19.21 | feutetejsd | spawning a new process every time....yee-ha |
| 20:19.28 | bep27 | hehe |
| 20:19.51 | macnewbold | in freebsd, which is similar, you can enable accounting, then run a command called "lastcomm" to figure out what it was |
| 20:20.41 | bep27 | ok |
| 20:20.45 | bep27 | how do I enable that? |
| 20:20.46 | macnewbold | yeah, feut is right... keep running ps axuww | grep 226 (or whatever) right when it should be happening |
| 20:21.10 | macnewbold | in FreeBSD it'sa kernel option, IIRC, so unless it is already on, there's probably not an easy way to do it |
| 20:21.18 | macnewbold | ~google lastcomm os-x |
| 20:21.33 | macnewbold | hm |
| 20:21.37 | macnewbold | maybe it is on... |
| 20:21.41 | macnewbold | try running lastcomm (as root) |
| 20:21.51 | macnewbold | i.e. 'sudo lastcomm' |
| 20:22.31 | bep27 | k |
| 20:24.18 | feutetejsd | bep27, it might also make sense to verify that there's nothing related to Now Up-to-date & Contact in /Library/StartupItems/ or /System/Library/StartupItems/ as well as your startup items Preferences pane |
| 20:24.26 | bep27 | lastcomm doesnt exist. |
| 20:24.33 | bep27 | Yeah |
| 20:24.42 | bep27 | There was I just removed the folder |
| 20:24.45 | bep27 | Should I reboot? |
| 20:25.05 | feutetejsd | probably... apps that got started at last boot could still be running |
| 20:25.27 | bep27 | k |
| 20:25.29 | bep27 | We will see if this works |
| 20:25.37 | feutetejsd | come back and let us know |
| 20:26.20 | macnewbold | bep27: also try "locate lastcomm" to see if it finds it anywhere |
| 20:26.29 | macnewbold | it might not be in your path |
| 20:26.40 | bep27 | I typed in where is lastcomm |
| 20:26.53 | macnewbold | that is something different I think |
| 20:26.54 | bep27 | I couldnt find it there |
| 20:26.59 | bep27 | yeah it is |
| 20:27.01 | macnewbold | where/which only look in your path |
| 20:27.10 | bep27 | It should display the path that runs |
| 20:27.14 | bep27 | ok |
| 20:27.14 | macnewbold | but locate checks just aobut everywhere |
| 20:27.18 | bep27 | k |
| 20:27.22 | macnewbold | (cause it indexes your whole drive every weekend) |
| 20:27.35 | bep27 | Cool cool |
| 20:29.07 | bep27 | wonderful it worked |
| 20:29.35 | feutetejsd | reboot worked? |
| 20:31.36 | bep27 | Yep |
| 20:31.40 | macnewbold | ah sweet! I found the lastcomm magic |
| 20:31.46 | bep27 | After deleting the folder |
| 20:31.52 | macnewbold | you _can_ turn on accting without kernel changes |
| 20:31.53 | feutetejsd | huzzah! |
| 20:31.56 | macnewbold | here's how you do it: |
| 20:32.03 | macnewbold | sudo mkdir /var/account/ |
| 20:32.04 | macnewbold | sudo touch /var/account/acct |
| 20:32.08 | macnewbold | sudo accton /var/account/acct |
| 20:32.15 | macnewbold | the check it with 'lastcomm' |
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| 20:33.17 | feutetejsd | so, does lastcomm only log accounting info when you run it, or when you turn accounting on, does it periodically log to that file? |
| 20:33.28 | feutetejsd | I'm not terribly familiar with accounting |
| 20:33.53 | drewbono | Howdy everyone. |
| 20:34.10 | feutetejsd | hola |
| 20:36.48 | drewbono | Hey bep27. |
| 20:37.01 | drewbono | You're a new face (and by face, I mean name.) :-) |
| 20:37.30 | feutetejsd | it's a new record for members in the IRC room |
| 20:38.48 | macnewbold | the accounting is a list of every process, who ran it, when, etc. take a look at "man 5 acct", "man lastcomm", etc. |
| 20:39.13 | macnewbold | so since it's a new process every time, you'd see it show up in the acct log, viewable with lastcomm |
| 20:39.20 | macnewbold | and you'd know what it was that was running and doing that |
| 20:39.20 | wps | for sure, feutetejsd |
| 20:39.35 | feutetejsd | cool |
| 20:39.43 | macnewbold | 6 people plus two bots... not too shabby :) |
| 20:40.01 | feutetejsd | and the bots seem so lifelike.... |
| 20:40.14 | feutetejsd | almost like 8 full people!!! |
| 20:40.33 | macnewbold | I think jbot should at last count as an honorary person |
| 20:40.50 | feutetejsd | amen...he's MUCH smarter than I am |
| 20:42.48 | wps | :) |
| 20:45.17 | wps | jbot, your social security number is 889-21-4733 |
| 20:45.18 | jbot | okay, wps |
| 20:45.26 | feutetejsd | nice |
| 20:46.53 | feutetejsd | now I can steal jbot's identity!!!! >:) |
| 21:00.34 | macnewbold | ~your social security number |
| 21:00.35 | jbot | from memory, your social security number is 889-21-4733 |
| 21:00.39 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 21:01.00 | macnewbold | ~lart feutetejsd for stealing my identity |
| 21:05.32 | feutetejsd | aaauuughhhhh!!!! |
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| 21:09.04 | wps | anyone aware of a Microsoft Windows IM client that supports rendezvous? |
| 21:09.17 | feutetejsd | not I |
| 21:27.22 | macnewbold | ~rendezvous |
| 21:27.39 | macnewbold | is rendezvous it's own protocol, or is it a particular client? |
| 21:27.49 | wps | it's own protocol |
| 21:28.08 | wps | http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/rendezvous/ |
| 21:28.23 | macnewbold | I'm surprised gaim doesn't yet. |
| 21:28.32 | macnewbold | ~google windows rendezvous client |
| 21:28.41 | wps | gaim doesn't? |
| 21:28.49 | wps | adium, which is build on gaim lib does |
| 21:28.56 | wps | but adium is only available for Mac OS |
| 21:29.30 | macnewbold | gaim does the following: aim/icq, gadu-gadu, groupwise, irc, jabber, msn, napster, yahoo, and zephyr |
| 21:29.36 | macnewbold | at least the version I've got right now |