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| 22:47.06 | ArchAngelNix | Afternoon wps |
| 22:47.23 | wps | hey |
| 22:47.27 | wps | get your page worked out? |
| 22:48.42 | ArchAngelNix | Nope. I haven't had a chance to work on it till now. |
| 22:54.58 | ArchAngelNix | What is the best way to arrange things to be in certain locations without the use of fixed/absolute? |
| 22:56.05 | wps | does it have to be absolute vertically? |
| 22:56.42 | ArchAngelNix | No |
| 22:59.37 | ArchAngelNix | I am almost tempted to put the logo/nav bar on the top into a frame, I figure that would make my 3 "box" arrangement easier to handle. |
| 22:59.48 | wps | no no no |
| 23:00.02 | wps | never use frames |
| 23:00.33 | ArchAngelNix | Typically I don't, but it is such an easy hack way of doing it... ;-) |
| 23:00.54 | wps | I think that including the header with PHP is easier |
| 23:01.56 | ArchAngelNix | That is what I am doing now, but I am having issues of the two boxes below it staying where I want them to in IE. |
| 23:02.13 | wps | what's the URL? |
| 23:02.31 | ArchAngelNix | madb.byu.edu |
| 23:02.49 | wps | so you want a two column layout with a header? |
| 23:02.57 | ArchAngelNix | Yes |
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| 23:29.24 | ArchAngelNix | Thanks for the help. It seems I know enough about CSS to get myself into trouble, but not to get back out again... |
| 23:31.30 | wps | http://anavidesign.com/temp/2col/ |
| 23:32.03 | ArchAngelNix | Nice |
| 23:32.08 | ArchAngelNix | Is that latin? |
| 23:32.29 | wps | refresh |
| 23:32.37 | wps | yes |
| 23:32.59 | wps | that should get you started |
| 23:33.23 | ArchAngelNix | Can you tell me what the difference is between "class" and "id" in CSS? |
| 23:33.29 | wps | sure |
| 23:33.32 | wps | ID's are unique |
| 23:33.34 | wps | classes are not |
| 23:33.43 | wps | each element can have both or either |
| 23:34.05 | wps | such as: |
| 23:34.20 | wps | <div class="block" id="first_block"></div> |
| 23:34.32 | wps | <div class="block" id="second_block"></div> |
| 23:35.46 | ArchAngelNix | So it can be used almost as a name for an item? |
| 23:36.03 | wps | ID? yes, that's exactly what it is… a unique ID |
| 23:36.06 | ArchAngelNix | I have also seen people use it instead of declaring a class. |
| 23:36.36 | wps | that would be because they want those style declarations to apply to that element and that element only |
| 23:36.39 | ArchAngelNix | What is the advantage of using ID instead of Class? |
| 23:37.10 | wps | if you want it to be available to multiple elements, use a class… if you want it to apply to one element only, use an ID |
| 23:38.02 | ArchAngelNix | Okay so I have class top and class bottom. Because they are both classes, class bottom can access class top's setup? |
| 23:38.26 | wps | not sure what you're asking |
| 23:39.15 | ArchAngelNix | I am trying to understand the advantage/difference of class and Id... |
| 23:40.18 | ArchAngelNix | The question is really this: A class is an object that I can make multiple instances of. An Id is a "hard coded" instance. Using programming terminology... |
| 23:41.24 | ArchAngelNix | In the example of what you whiped together... id "main" can only be called once, whereas I can call multiple class "blocks". |
| 23:42.03 | wps | refresh |
| 23:42.16 | wps | yes |
| 23:43.23 | ArchAngelNix | Why did you give an Id to each of the blocks? |
| 23:43.51 | wps | so that I could apply specific styles each of them |
| 23:44.10 | wps | each block has common things about it and unique things about it |
| 23:44.22 | wps | the unique things are declared with the ID |
| 23:44.28 | wps | the common things are declared with the class |
| 23:46.30 | ArchAngelNix | Okay so in a way the class is the parent and the id's are the child process. They inherit the parent, but then add to that inheritance and overwrite the parents variables if necessary. |
| 23:47.19 | wps | no, IDs have precedence |
| 23:48.04 | ArchAngelNix | Meaning if class says the background is white, but the id says it's black then it renders black? |
| 23:48.10 | wps | correct |
| 23:48.47 | ArchAngelNix | One last question... on my page, I have the links at the top, layered over top of another box. Did I code that right, or is that a hacked way of doing it? |
| 23:50.55 | wps | that looks alright |
| 23:51.30 | ArchAngelNix | Okay. Thanks so much for the help. I appreciate it. |
| 23:52.02 | wps | you're welcome |
| 23:52.06 | wps | have a good night |
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