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| 01:21.06 | dn3e8 | help... I can't great the guest account |
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| 17:31.24 | *** topic/#byumug by wps -> Happy post-Black Friday |
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| 19:01.21 | dn3e8 | good day |
| 19:02.02 | dn3e8 | I am trying to get my mac mini to have the guest account, some help please |
| 19:14.03 | wps | there isn't any sort of special "guest account" |
| 19:14.07 | wps | but you can create one easy as pie |
| 19:14.36 | wps | within the accounts system preference pane |
| 19:15.02 | wps | oh… wait… are you talking about being able to connect to a Mac as a guest? |
| 19:15.34 | wps | if you want an actually user (account) on the system that can log into the GUI and do things, then you will have to create an actual user called "guest" |
| 19:16.09 | wps | but if you are simply talking about connecting (AFP, SMB, etc), then you do not have to set anything up |
| 19:16.12 | wps | it's already ready to go |
| 19:16.47 | wps | when attempting to remote into the machine, you will get a dialogue that asks you to authenticate, or you can log in as a guest (without a password… but restricted to only public directories) |
| 19:17.51 | wps | I hope that I haven't confused you |
| 19:20.11 | dn3e8 | kind of a user account, It tryid to just naem an account guest and it won't let me. Says it is already in use |
| 19:20.52 | wps | what is it that you are trying to accomplish? |
| 19:21.01 | wps | ie: what do you the user account for (to do)? |
| 19:22.50 | dn3e8 | be an account named guest with no password, and 'guest rights' , |
| 19:23.35 | dn3e8 | I have a pseudo one now named visitor, with no pass and limited by 'parental control' |
| 19:23.51 | wps | ah, okay |
| 19:24.02 | wps | so you do want them to be able to log into the GUI and have an actual account |
| 19:24.36 | dn3e8 | yes |
| 19:26.08 | dn3e8 | ( when I first bought eh computer in may, 1:800-my apple couldn't help and did not know why Guest was 'already taken' |
| 19:26.39 | dn3e8 | I was thiknning of taking it to the APPLE STORE then remember ther is 'a genus' in the MUG |
| 19:26.49 | dn3e8 | so I thought I would try here |
| 19:27.45 | wps | you should be able to create an account named "guest" |
| 19:27.47 | wps | i have done it before |
| 19:27.55 | wps | and just tried it again just now and it worked |
| 19:29.39 | dn3e8 | I thought it was a tiger thing.. but my brother (got an Imca on friday) could create guest... and I still can't ... I my mini had 10.3 out of the box,, and then I upgraded.. that may be the issue... |
| 19:30.04 | wps | what is an "Imca" ? |
| 19:30.22 | dn3e8 | opps iMAc |
| 19:30.31 | dn3e8 | *iMAc |
| 19:39.03 | wps | brb |
| 19:39.21 | dn3e8 | brb |
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| 19:44.44 | wps | what directories are in Users ? |
| 19:55.24 | dn3e8 | (guest is not)\ |
| 19:55.48 | dn3e8 | backup shred visitor |
| 19:55.52 | dn3e8 | Shared |
| 19:56.01 | wps | there is no: /Users/guest ? |
| 19:56.01 | dn3e8 | (3) |
| 19:56.20 | dn3e8 | There is no Users/guest |
| 19:56.23 | wps | alright |
| 19:56.50 | wps | have you ever had an account on this Mac with a short username of "Guest" or "guest" ? |
| 19:57.06 | dn3e8 | no |
| 19:57.10 | wps | interesting |
| 19:57.15 | wps | are you familiar with NetInfo Manager? |
| 19:57.34 | dn3e8 | Defiantly not since I reinstlled (3 weeks ago) |
| 19:57.44 | dn3e8 | *reinstalled |
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| 20:00.56 | wps | are you familiar with NetInfo Manager? |
| 20:01.14 | wps | welcome, FooWater |
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| 20:09.26 | ArchAngelNix | How is everyone this morning? |
| 20:10.04 | wps | excellent |
| 20:10.05 | wps | thank you |
| 20:11.32 | ArchAngelNix | Did you participate in the Black Friday hoopla? |
| 20:11.42 | wps | no way |
| 20:11.47 | ArchAngelNix | :-) |
| 20:12.22 | ArchAngelNix | Do you know much about a) Mac OS X Server or b) music composition? |
| 20:12.32 | wps | yes |
| 20:12.45 | ArchAngelNix | Those are my two quagmires I am dealing with right now. |
| 20:13.43 | ArchAngelNix | Which one? Server or music comp? |
| 20:13.53 | wps | both |
| 20:14.01 | ArchAngelNix | Oh... Nice |
| 20:14.24 | ArchAngelNix | Do you know how to set up virtual domains via Server Admin app? |
| 20:14.42 | wps | I don't sorry. I do it via the command line. |
| 20:14.47 | ArchAngelNix | My friend is hosting my websites and his. |
| 20:14.58 | ArchAngelNix | Any way I can get it to work I don't mind. |
| 20:15.51 | dn3e8 | "wps: are you familiar with NetInfo Manager?" I am a little familiar. |
| 20:16.17 | ArchAngelNix | dn3e8 what are wondering about Netinfo? |
| 20:16.30 | wps | dn3e8, is there an entry under users called "guest" ? |
| 20:18.07 | wps | ArchAngelNix, have you ever edited httpd.conf manually before? |
| 20:18.22 | ArchAngelNix | Yes I have. |
| 20:18.46 | wps | have you ever set up virtual hosts before? |
| 20:18.55 | ArchAngelNix | No |
| 20:18.58 | wps | k |
| 20:19.04 | ArchAngelNix | Well I have tried but have never got it working. |
| 20:19.09 | wps | httpd.conf is divided into three sections |
| 20:19.14 | wps | the third section is virtual hosts |
| 20:19.31 | wps | first, uncomment #NameVirtualHost *:80 |
| 20:20.13 | wps | then, write in a block of code (an XML node) in the same format as the example |
| 20:20.21 | wps | then restart apache |
| 20:21.05 | wps | dn3e8, what'd you find in NetInfo? |
| 20:23.46 | *** topic/#byumug by wps -> BYU Mac Users Group | mac.byu.edu |
| 20:25.12 | ArchAngelNix | It looks like OS X Server changes the way http.conf is formated from the standard Mac Apache layout. |
| 20:25.44 | ArchAngelNix | There is no line in the http.conf file on OS X Server with NameVirutalHosting |
| 20:25.57 | ArchAngelNix | There is on my home computer |
| 20:26.57 | wps | really? |
| 20:27.13 | wps | I don't have a version of Mac OS Server running here at home to test |
| 20:34.11 | wps | I can look for you when I get into the office Tuesday, but unfortunately, if Apple is doing it a non-Apache way in Mac OS Server, then I won't be much help |
| 20:34.38 | ArchAngelNix | Okay. |
| 20:35.52 | ArchAngelNix | I can't seem to find any definite answer on how to set it up. It seems no one wants to post a step by step method once they get their own working. |
| 20:35.54 | wps | …until then |
| 20:36.29 | wps | is there nothing describing how to do it within Apple's Server documentation (soft or hard)? |
| 20:37.02 | ArchAngelNix | Not extensively. They only mention how to turn it on, not all the back ground setup. |
| 20:37.44 | wps | and there is supposed to be a way to do it all within one of their GUI admin apps? |
| 20:40.20 | ArchAngelNix | Yep |
| 20:43.04 | ArchAngelNix | From everything I have read it sounds like I have setup a DNS server on the machine before it will allow multiple domains to access the pages on the machine. |
| 20:46.07 | wps | really? |
| 20:46.30 | wps | Mac OS normal can do virtual hosts by just setting them up in httpd.conf |
| 20:46.45 | wps | why on earth would they make it more complicated than that for Mac OS Server? |
| 20:47.26 | ArchAngelNix | I have no idea. |
| 20:48.32 | wps | man, I sure wish that I could get my hands into on to check |
| 20:48.39 | wps | it's driving me nuts wondering |
| 20:50.22 | ArchAngelNix | Well if you promise to be nice (and forget my account info later), I will let you in via my account to take a look. |
| 20:59.17 | wps | sure |
| 20:59.49 | wps | I would check on mac.byu.edu, but something is wrong with the server and I cannot log in |
| 21:00.58 | ArchAngelNix | Do you have an AIM account you are logged in right now? |
| 21:01.20 | wps | yes: anavidesign |
| 21:01.35 | wps | or you private message me via IRC |
| 21:01.41 | wps | "/msg <nick> |
| 21:02.18 | ArchAngelNix | I don't know IRC very well. |
| 21:02.30 | wps | what client are you using? |
| 21:02.33 | wps | colloquy? |
| 21:02.39 | ArchAngelNix | Yep |
| 21:02.46 | wps | if you type "/msg wps" |
| 21:02.52 | wps | a new window will appear with just you and me in it |
| 21:04.30 | ArchAngelNix | Are you seeing what I am typing in the private room? |
| 21:04.50 | wps | nope |
| 21:05.16 | ArchAngelNix | Well I was typing... |
| 21:05.30 | ArchAngelNix | Could you login via AIM? |
| 21:06.05 | wps | oh… oops |
| 21:06.10 | wps | sorry, that's right |
| 21:06.16 | ArchAngelNix | What? |
| 21:06.17 | wps | I am not logged in with that account right now |
| 21:06.31 | wps | AOL' |
| 21:06.41 | wps | AOL's server was having issues and wasn't accepting my password |
| 21:06.42 | wps | I'm online now |
| 21:49.33 | dn3e8 | wps:said "dn3e8, is there an entry under users called "guest" ?" No there is no entry for guest |
| 21:50.18 | wps | that's really strange |
| 21:50.39 | wps | I don't have any idea why it would prevent you from creating an account with the name guest |
| 21:50.45 | wps | is that shortname or longname or both? |