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| 02:09.35 | _psychic_ | anyone know of a spreadsheet that isnt' openOffice? |
| 02:12.45 | wps | yes: http://mac.byu.edu/links.php?category=Applications+%97+Office |
| 02:29.44 | wps | there aren't any good options however… even including OO and MSO |
| 02:29.54 | wps | that's why I am longing… longing… longing for Apple to release Numbers |
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| 06:33.17 | JakeSpur | almost time.... |
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| 07:16.51 | JakeSpur | 02Blue |
| 07:17.06 | wps | go cougars! |
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| 07:25.01 | JakeSpur | Yeah... |
| 07:25.12 | JakeSpur | Who are you wps? |
| 07:25.21 | wps | wade |
| 07:25.32 | JakeSpur | preston shearer? |
| 07:25.41 | wps | yeah. you? |
| 07:25.48 | JakeSpur | Jake Spurlock |
| 07:25.58 | JakeSpur | I jsut know your name from the mailing list |
| 07:26.02 | wps | cool |
| 07:26.15 | JakeSpur | What do you think about tommorow? |
| 07:26.25 | wps | excited |
| 07:26.31 | wps | as usual |
| 07:26.37 | JakeSpur | right |
| 07:26.50 | JakeSpur | do you thikn we will see viiv plasmas? |
| 07:27.02 | wps | yes |
| 07:27.03 | JakeSpur | That is what my apartment needs |
| 07:27.10 | JakeSpur | 50" on viiv |
| 07:27.11 | wps | mac mini DVR |
| 07:27.20 | JakeSpur | for sure |
| 07:27.22 | wps | front row 2.0 |
| 07:27.27 | JakeSpur | iWeb |
| 07:27.33 | wps | new airport with AirTv |
| 07:27.41 | JakeSpur | You think? |
| 07:27.47 | wps | yeah |
| 07:27.55 | JakeSpur | That would be tight |
| 07:28.13 | wps | iLife '06 |
| 07:28.19 | JakeSpur | jsut a question, have you looked into the Software for Starving Students? |
| 07:28.41 | wps | yeah, helped design one of the first interfaces for the installer (but it wasn't ever used) |
| 07:28.47 | JakeSpur | Really |
| 07:29.00 | JakeSpur | I did a lot of the work on the new one |
| 07:29.16 | wps | yes, one of the main guys used to help me run UPHPU |
| 07:29.18 | wps | oh? cool |
| 07:29.36 | JakeSpur | Dave Turnbull did a lot of it... |
| 07:29.46 | wps | that's him |
| 07:29.47 | JakeSpur | Just looking for feedback |
| 07:30.01 | JakeSpur | if you got the new version |
| 07:30.15 | wps | didn't download it |
| 07:30.22 | wps | sorry |
| 07:30.54 | JakeSpur | That's cool |
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| 07:31.22 | JakeSpur | Wooops |
| 07:33.26 | wps | was Dave ever able to get the interface graphics and content completely separated? |
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| 15:39.39 | wps | 1 hour and 20 minutes… |
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| 16:16.17 | wps | The Apple Store is closed |
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| 16:49.13 | wps | wow, six people, two bots, and an alter eago |
| 16:49.40 | feutetejsd | hehe |
| 16:49.47 | wps | why do you think that Apple doesn't provide a live feed anymore? |
| 16:49.56 | cmkilger | I'll be on and off |
| 16:49.56 | wps | too big of a stream on the network/servers? |
| 16:50.15 | wps | s/stream/strain |
| 16:50.58 | JakeSpur | It is part of the reality distortion field... |
| 16:51.16 | cmkilger | Who's idea was it to have this keynote during my class? |
| 16:51.24 | cmkilger | very inconvenient |
| 16:51.26 | wps | bill gates |
| 16:51.35 | cmkilger | I knew it! |
| 16:51.35 | JakeSpur | I know.... |
| 16:52.04 | JakeSpur | I am just planning on setting aside about an hour and a half tonight to watch the broadcast... |
| 16:52.17 | cmkilger | You think it'll be up today? |
| 16:52.22 | JakeSpur | For sure |
| 16:52.28 | wps | should be by this evening, yes |
| 16:52.34 | JakeSpur | The october and June one were up the same day |
| 16:52.34 | cmkilger | good, I'll make a FHE out of it |
| 16:52.39 | JakeSpur | haha |
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| 16:52.57 | JakeSpur | Are you guys following the macrumors IRC or what? |
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| 16:53.12 | cmkilger | I'm going to try, but I'll be in class |
| 16:53.13 | JakeSpur | I have that open and a couple of pages |
| 16:53.22 | cmkilger | same here |
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| 16:54.21 | cmkilger | well I guess I should go to class, enjoy the show |
| 16:54.31 | wps | no wireless laptop? |
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| 16:56.31 | wps | come on Apple… I have some money to burn |
| 16:56.45 | drewbono | :) |
| 16:56.45 | wps | don't let me down |
| 16:56.49 | drewbono | What ya gonna buy wps? |
| 16:57.06 | wps | I want a Mac Mini DVR with kick-butt remote and FrontRow |
| 16:57.13 | wps | oh yeah |
| 16:57.34 | wps | but that Mac Mini will have to be able to record in HD to a hard drive and have component in/out |
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| 16:58.34 | drewbono | No way it can record HD to a 2.5" hard drive, can it? |
| 16:58.54 | wps | I have no idea |
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| 16:59.27 | JakeSpur | I want the 50" viiv plasma with a built in mini... |
| 16:59.35 | JakeSpur | But that is just me... |
| 17:00.08 | wps | I already have a 40" flat tube… I'm fine in the tv department. Recording in HD is what I need for my entertainment center. |
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| 17:01.17 | *** topic/#byumug by wps -> live lusting over Macworld keynote |
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| 17:02.53 | wps | looks like the IRC channel is going to get the same info as the auto-refresh website |
| 17:02.57 | wps | (macrumors) |
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| 17:08.47 | JakeSpur | Right... |
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| 17:11.04 | jhmaughan | hey guys |
| 17:11.15 | qwzybug | yo |
| 17:11.21 | jhmaughan | thought i'd jump in :) |
| 17:11.34 | wps | dang! 14 million ipods sold holiday 2005 |
| 17:11.35 | jhmaughan | anyone actually there? |
| 17:11.45 | jhmaughan | like, in MWE? |
| 17:12.19 | jhmaughan | i think Richard Miller was going to be at the Moscone today |
| 17:12.32 | wps | I don't know anyone that is there |
| 17:14.28 | drewbono | Joe Allred is there. |
| 17:14.28 | drewbono | That is so so so many iPods. |
| 17:14.28 | drewbono | So many. |
| 17:14.29 | jhmaughan | lol |
| 17:14.29 | jhmaughan | yeah i bet |
| 17:14.40 | jhmaughan | apple's stock is climbing |
| 17:16.01 | *** topic/#byumug by wps -> Live Macworld Keynote |
| 17:16.22 | wps | it's really, really sad how bad SNL is right now |
| 17:16.43 | jhmaughan | lol |
| 17:16.45 | wps | it has had it's highs and lows over the years, but is definitely in a low at the moment |
| 17:16.52 | jhmaughan | yes it is |
| 17:16.56 | wps | we won't even watch it right now… it is so, so, so crude |
| 17:17.09 | wps | and the writing is aweful |
| 17:17.48 | wps | I'll tell you one of the biggest things that I want right now: a line-in to the deck in my car. FM transmit sucks. |
| 17:18.24 | jhmaughan | yup, ditto |
| 17:18.32 | jhmaughan | i was glad to hear about Chrysler yestereday |
| 17:18.41 | jhmaughan | i guess there is now a dealer installed part to do it |
| 17:18.47 | jhmaughan | so you don't have to have an 06 model |
| 17:19.04 | wps | I just need to get a new deck |
| 17:19.07 | jhmaughan | which bodes well considering there isn't any aftermarket line-in units that seem to work with Nissans |
| 17:20.41 | wps | it's about time that there was a keynote dedicated to Macintoshes |
| 17:21.04 | jhmaughan | what are you watching it on right now? |
| 17:21.06 | wps | the iPod is sweet and all and has help bring Apple back out of the dust, but Macintoshes is where it's at |
| 17:21.36 | wps | there are no live video feeds, but news site are providing play-by-plays (reporters there with wireless nics in their laptops) |
| 17:21.55 | jhmaughan | which one you using? MacCentral is pretty slow |
| 17:22.21 | wps | macrumors is running great |
| 17:22.40 | jhmaughan | oh wow |
| 17:22.42 | jhmaughan | you're not kidding |
| 17:23.09 | jhmaughan | gah! exciting |
| 17:23.18 | jhmaughan | must use bathroom |
| 17:23.26 | jhmaughan | (like pre-movie excitement) |
| 17:23.33 | jhmaughan | *nm* |
| 17:23.37 | wps | the jeep integration is good news. that is another thing on my wish list |
| 17:24.57 | jhmaughan | for realz |
| 17:25.51 | wps | three cheers for 10.4.4!!! |
| 17:25.59 | wps | let's pray that they update rsync |
| 17:26.17 | jhmaughan | woo hoo |
| 17:27.14 | wps | come on iWork… Numbers… Numbers… I need a spreadsheet that works |
| 17:27.38 | jhmaughan | apple worshipper ;) |
| 17:27.42 | wps | dude, christmas sucked compared to this |
| 17:27.56 | jhmaughan | LOL |
| 17:27.59 | jhmaughan | AMEN |
| 17:28.07 | wps | life-long member I am |
| 17:28.10 | jhmaughan | i didn't buy anyone anything b/c i told them i was waiting for this |
| 17:28.26 | wps | my cells are in the shape of apples |
| 17:28.33 | jhmaughan | yeah, i life seriously needs an update |
| 17:28.34 | wps | grey up with a lisa and then a mac plus |
| 17:28.38 | jhmaughan | lol |
| 17:28.58 | jhmaughan | wow, blogs too? |
| 17:29.08 | wps | I don't really get blogs |
| 17:29.51 | jhmaughan | like, understand why? |
| 17:29.51 | wps | who cares is joe nobody in Kansas went to K-Mart last night? |
| 17:30.07 | jhmaughan | well, i look at it this way |
| 17:30.50 | jhmaughan | Pablo Fransico on comedy central said, when doing a skit on mexican girlfriends who go nuts on you, as she's walking away from chewing you out she says, "where's my friend who agrees with me" |
| 17:31.15 | wps | what? |
| 17:31.42 | jhmaughan | i think of blogs like "where's my friend who agrees with me" |
| 17:31.52 | wps | podcasting for photos… interesting |
| 17:32.02 | jhmaughan | for real |
| 17:33.09 | wps | they seriously better fix rsync with this update |
| 17:33.15 | wps | it's been buggy for too long |
| 17:34.48 | drewbono | do they usually post the keynote video the same day? |
| 17:34.50 | drewbono | Or later? |
| 17:35.13 | JakeSpur | They should post it today... |
| 17:35.21 | drewbono | Hot. |
| 17:36.07 | wps | man, who cares about creating birthday cards |
| 17:36.11 | wps | get to the goods!!! |
| 17:36.19 | jhmaughan | yup yup |
| 17:36.30 | jhmaughan | but i was actually in the process of making a calendar yesterday |
| 17:36.37 | jhmaughan | so i'm going to buy this and then save a few hours |
| 17:40.46 | jhmaughan | ...waiting.... |
| 17:40.50 | jhmaughan | demos take too long |
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| 17:41.07 | jhmaughan | lol |
| 17:41.13 | jhmaughan | his computer went to sleep? |
| 17:41.55 | jhmaughan | so he's going to go through all of the iLife suite? |
| 17:42.05 | jhmaughan | how long are these usualy? |
| 17:42.08 | jhmaughan | an hour right? |
| 17:42.22 | wps | hour and a half |
| 17:42.28 | jhmaughan | oh good |
| 17:42.37 | jhmaughan | b/c i was goign to be seriously bugged if they only had 15 minutes lef |
| 17:42.40 | jhmaughan | left |
| 17:42.56 | wps | it's about dang time that iMovie allowed you to have more than one project open at atime |
| 17:43.03 | jhmaughan | lol |
| 17:43.04 | jhmaughan | yup |
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| 17:45.36 | jhmaughan | i'm gonna run to spanish fork real quick if it's going to be another 45 min |
| 17:45.57 | jhmaughan | apple's stock is going way up |
| 17:48.56 | wps | podcasting studio now part of garageband |
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| 17:54.04 | drewbono | jhmaughan: really? |
| 17:54.16 | drewbono | usually when apple releases good news, its stock goes way down. :-) |
| 17:54.21 | wps | we may not be getting hardware today, boys |
| 17:54.28 | drewbono | Yeah right... |
| 17:54.36 | cmkilger | Noooo!!!!! |
| 17:54.39 | drewbono | No way we aren't getting hardware toys. |
| 17:54.54 | drewbono | don't torment us wps |
| 17:55.14 | wps | so, iWeb is for publishing to the web, not a WYSIWYG app |
| 17:55.16 | drewbono | ~lart wps |
| 17:55.34 | feutetejsd | hehe |
| 17:55.44 | wps | ~weggie waiting |
| 17:55.55 | wps | ~wedgie having to wait |
| 17:55.57 | jbot | ACTION hangs having to wait from the flag pole by his underwear |
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| 18:09.28 | *** topic/#byumug is Live Macworld Keynote |
| 18:09.42 | drewbono | wow....he just kinda skipped over that one, didn't he? |
| 18:09.56 | wps | yeah |
| 18:09.58 | wps | arg |
| 18:10.40 | wps | I'm really surprised |
| 18:10.53 | wps | I think that they would sell a lot of copies of iWork with that improvement |
| 18:10.58 | wps | oh, well… I'll move on |
| 18:14.45 | drewbono | Holy... |
| 18:14.51 | drewbono | so many imac revisions |
| 18:15.03 | drewbono | I can't believe they're taking the iMac to Intel so soon. |
| 18:15.18 | wps | for sure |
| 18:15.27 | drewbono | They just gave it a major revision a little while ago, and a smaller revision not so long before that. |
| 18:15.48 | wps | and now it's more than twice as fast |
| 18:18.37 | wps | $49 seems a little high to trade your disk in |
| 18:18.50 | jhmaughan | i'm back guys |
| 18:19.52 | wps | who cares about Quark? |
| 18:20.25 | jhmaughan | so um...wow, didn't miss much did i? |
| 18:20.35 | feutetejsd | where are you guys getting your updates? |
| 18:20.39 | jhmaughan | http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/ |
| 18:20.42 | feutetejsd | ah |
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| 18:22.23 | feutetejsd | so, I didn't see anywhere in there that they said anything definitve about intel....am I missing it? |
| 18:22.26 | jhmaughan | *sigh* this is not impressive... |
| 18:22.40 | jhmaughan | yes, the iMac they just barely released is now Intel based |
| 18:22.54 | jhmaughan | as opposed tot he Mac Mini Media Center i was begging for |
| 18:23.28 | feutetejsd | d'oh! |
| 18:24.29 | drewbono | they aren't done yet, are they? |
| 18:24.37 | drewbono | the core duo looks sweet |
| 18:24.49 | drewbono | I can't believe it's 2-3x faster than the old iMac's G5. |
| 18:25.15 | wps | drewbono, _looks_? |
| 18:25.26 | wps | or do you mean "sounds"? |
| 18:25.42 | jhmaughan | yeah, and why aren't they in the Mac Mini? |
| 18:25.45 | drewbono | Uhh.... :-) |
| 18:25.55 | wps | drewbono |
| 18:26.05 | jhmaughan | i think a lot of credit card companies got disapointed w/ this :) |
| 18:27.42 | wps | I can't believe that they didn't update the mini |
| 18:27.48 | jhmaughan | no kidding... |
| 18:28.24 | jhmaughan | so it's seriously only an hour and a half? |
| 18:28.29 | jhmaughan | :( |
| 18:28.30 | wps | I guess it's the shuffle's cousin though, just there so that they can say "we have an option in that price range" |
| 18:28.36 | drewbono | it's over? |
| 18:28.55 | wps | thanks it ladies and gentlemen |
| 18:29.02 | wps | s/thanks/that's |
| 18:29.09 | wps | WAIT! |
| 18:29.14 | wps | one more thing! |
| 18:29.48 | jhmaughan | .... |
| 18:29.52 | wps | powerbook! |
| 18:29.52 | jhmaughan | OMGoodness! |
| 18:30.26 | jhmaughan | (still not a MacMini, but my brother will be happy) ;) |
| 18:30.27 | wps | new hardware (industrial design) is SO long over due |
| 18:30.56 | wps | I'm still surprised that they didn't update FrontRow |
| 18:31.06 | wps | MacBook Pro |
| 18:31.09 | drewbono | Apple will transition all Macs to Intel-architecture by end of Calendar year. |
| 18:31.09 | wps | is Powerbook dead? |
| 18:31.09 | jhmaughan | good grief, no kidding |
| 18:31.17 | jhmaughan | i hope not |
| 18:31.21 | jhmaughan | PowerBook is cool |
| 18:31.33 | wps | it's true… Powerbook is dead |
| 18:31.33 | jhmaughan | MacBook sounds a bit femmy |
| 18:31.58 | jhmaughan | at least it's dual core |
| 18:32.12 | drewbono | MacBook Pro sounds dumb. |
| 18:32.34 | drewbono | So I hope they release iBook replacements too (MacBooks) |
| 18:32.44 | jhmaughan | so i asked Santa for a Mactel Mini w/ Front Row 2.0 |
| 18:32.50 | jhmaughan | i guess i wasn't a very good boy |
| 18:33.02 | jhmaughan | give it another 8 months? |
| 18:33.05 | jhmaughan | gag |
| 18:33.37 | drewbono | 4-5x faster!!! |
| 18:33.44 | drewbono | Holy... |
| 18:33.44 | feutetejsd | so macbook is a dual G4? |
| 18:33.51 | feutetejsd | and will be intel by the end of the year? |
| 18:33.59 | drewbono | just goes to show how old the G4 chip is |
| 18:34.00 | jhmaughan | dual core Intel |
| 18:34.05 | jhmaughan | i think? |
| 18:34.09 | feutetejsd | hmmm |
| 18:34.14 | jhmaughan | yeah, dual core intel |
| 18:34.15 | drewbono | fo sho dual core intel |
| 18:34.20 | jhmaughan | http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/ |
| 18:35.05 | feutetejsd | i was looking there, but didn't see dual core intel....maybe I'm just dumb |
| 18:35.05 | jhmaughan | i guess more people wanted a laptop update than a media center |
| 18:35.17 | jhmaughan | 10:31 amNo more Powerbook. Intel duo Core. |
| 18:35.25 | feutetejsd | yup...I'm just dumb. there it s |
| 18:35.28 | jhmaughan | lol :) |
| 18:35.29 | jhmaughan | it's all good |
| 18:35.51 | jhmaughan | i guess they didn't update the mini b/c it would be 2-3x faster than the G5 :) |
| 18:35.57 | jhmaughan | that would be embarrasing :) |
| 18:36.07 | feutetejsd | tee hee |
| 18:36.12 | drewbono | I thought there was going to be a big media announcement, like buying movies. |
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| 18:36.23 | wps | me too, drewbono |
| 18:36.27 | jhmaughan | *sigh* yeah, like, everyone thought that |
| 18:36.32 | jhmaughan | even the Washington Post |
| 18:36.33 | drewbono | So I wonder if the iMac is faster than the dual G5's now |
| 18:36.39 | wps | so, is the hardware different on the laptop? |
| 18:36.50 | wps | exactly what I have been wondering, drewbono |
| 18:37.05 | cmkilger | so what did I miss? |
| 18:37.08 | wps | MacBook will take time to grow on me |
| 18:37.15 | drewbono | anyone see pics yet? |
| 18:37.19 | wps | nope |
| 18:37.24 | wps | Apple Store still down |
| 18:37.28 | drewbono | wonder what the bus speed is |
| 18:37.37 | drewbono | probably 667mghz |
| 18:37.40 | jhmaughan | lol |
| 18:37.48 | wps | 5.6lbs. iSight, Front Row; $1999 1.67 Core Duo; 667 DDR bus, x1600; $2499 1.83GHz. |
| 18:37.51 | jhmaughan | wow, megagigahertz? |
| 18:38.01 | jhmaughan | hmm.... |
| 18:38.38 | wps | why on earth is Apple using IR for their remotes |
| 18:38.41 | wps | that is just stupid |
| 18:38.44 | drewbono | yup |
| 18:38.46 | wps | IR is so last decade |
| 18:38.46 | drewbono | IR stinks |
| 18:38.50 | wps | and is junk |
| 18:38.57 | wps | all macs already have bluetooth |
| 18:39.04 | wps | it just doesn't make any sense |
| 18:39.27 | jhmaughan | maybe their focus group couldn't figure out bluetooth? |
| 18:39.48 | jhmaughan | New feature: New Power Adapter is magnetically held in. If yanked, comes right out |
| 18:39.51 | jhmaughan | that's cool |
| 18:39.54 | drewbono | that's a cool feature |
| 18:39.59 | drewbono | I want to see the new iBooks though |
| 18:40.08 | jhmaughan | and Mac Minis |
| 18:40.09 | wps | but that's what mac's do… "just work" — non-techies don't care what technology is behind it… just that it works |
| 18:40.11 | drewbono | you can't release a MacBook Pro without releasing a MacBook |
| 18:40.14 | jhmaughan | did i mention i want to see Mac Minis? |
| 18:40.20 | jhmaughan | lol |
| 18:40.23 | jhmaughan | good point |
| 18:40.29 | wps | I think that they're done, drewbono |
| 18:40.35 | drewbono | son of a... |
| 18:40.38 | drewbono | STEVE!!!!! |
| 18:40.54 | wps | store's still down |
| 18:40.57 | jhmaughan | yeah...looks done |
| 18:41.21 | drewbono | so only 1 MacBook Pro? |
| 18:41.27 | jhmaughan | 2 |
| 18:41.28 | drewbono | the poor 12" Powerbook hasn't been updated forever |
| 18:41.32 | jhmaughan | lol |
| 18:41.39 | jhmaughan | what is the size? all 15.4 |
| 18:41.46 | drewbono | yeah, I think so |
| 18:41.46 | jhmaughan | so i guess i meant two like two speeds |
| 18:41.47 | drewbono | STEVE!!! |
| 18:41.54 | drewbono | ARGH! |
| 18:42.17 | wps | you in the market for a MacBook (iBook), drewbono? |
| 18:42.27 | drewbono | yeah |
| 18:42.30 | jhmaughan | my bro is in the market for something laptopped |
| 18:42.34 | feutetejsd | so, none of the really big rumored things came true....Airport HD, Mini, plasma displays.....? |
| 18:42.39 | drewbono | or a 12" MacBook Pro |
| 18:42.41 | wps | nope |
| 18:42.45 | jhmaughan | i was in the market for, everything feut just said |
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| 18:42.54 | feutetejsd | geez |
| 18:43.00 | drewbono | the MacBook Pro is big if it's a hair thinner than the 17" PowerBook |
| 18:43.23 | jhmaughan | nah, that's small b/c i think the 17 is smaller than the15 |
| 18:43.24 | wps | yeah, which is unfortunate because that's always been Apple's big thing… super thin laptop |
| 18:43.37 | drewbono | 17 smaller than the 15? |
| 18:43.41 | drewbono | verify? |
| 18:43.58 | jhmaughan | thinner |
| 18:44.07 | wps | the 17 is really thinner than the current 15? |
| 18:44.45 | wps | come on, Apple… open the store! |
| 18:44.49 | wps | open… open… open |
| 18:45.31 | jhmaughan | Footprint10.9 x 8.6 inches13.7 x 9.5 inches15.4 x 10.2 inches |
| 18:45.31 | jhmaughan | Thickness1.18 inches1.1 inches1 inch |
| 18:45.37 | jhmaughan | for the old G4s |
| 18:46.14 | wps | although I was hoping for media stuff (ie: DVR-ish), it's very good that they updated the pro laptop today |
| 18:46.19 | wps | sorely needed |
| 18:46.27 | jhmaughan | indeed |
| 18:50.25 | wps | store's open! |
| 18:50.33 | wps | new Apple home page |
| 18:53.14 | feutetejsd | what are the rumors about rosetta's performance? |
| 18:53.22 | wps | looking pretty good |
| 18:53.34 | feutetejsd | wps, would you run photoshop on it? |
| 18:53.35 | feutetejsd | ;) |
| 18:53.40 | wps | Steve said that a pro wouldn't find Photoshop on it acceptable, but general users wouldn't nice a difference |
| 18:53.44 | wps | no |
| 18:53.58 | feutetejsd | yeah.... |
| 18:53.59 | wps | I won't run on intel until Adoba has universal/native builds of their apps |
| 18:54.00 | feutetejsd | *sigh* |
| 18:54.05 | feutetejsd | also *sigh* |
| 18:54.54 | wps | but I won't be purchasing a new computer for another three years |
| 18:54.58 | wps | I just purchased the 2.7 dual |
| 18:56.14 | drewbono | the dual 2.7 is speedy |
| 18:57.00 | wps | me friend is checking out of the apple store right now |
| 18:57.05 | wps | new MacBook Pro |
| 18:57.18 | feutetejsd | brave |
| 18:57.26 | wps | I don't think that I've ever seen the Apple Store this slow |
| 18:58.15 | feutetejsd | everyone is performing searches for "mac mini intel" |
| 18:58.24 | wps | :) |
| 19:03.47 | wps | wow, the MacBook Pro has optical audio in/out |
| 19:04.08 | jhmaughan | looks the same |
| 19:05.53 | wps | but crap, why is the firewire only 400? |
| 19:06.04 | jhmaughan | seriously??!! |
| 19:06.12 | wps | that's straight-up retarded |
| 19:06.23 | feutetejsd | wow |
| 19:07.47 | jhmaughan | interesting...they didn't drop any old stuff |
| 19:07.56 | jhmaughan | at the store i m,ean |
| 19:08.15 | jhmaughan | they usually toss the old stuff |
| 19:09.01 | wps | MacBook Pro, $1799 with academic discount |
| 19:09.38 | wps | they're not going to sell any Powermacs in the next six months |
| 19:09.50 | wps | jhmaughan |
| 19:09.58 | wps | jhmaughan, especially the old iMac |
| 19:10.10 | wps | why keep the old iMac? and the old 15" powerbook? |
| 19:10.17 | feutetejsd | man the iMacs are looking fairly attractive |
| 19:10.58 | jhmaughan | so whats an express card? |
| 19:11.07 | wps | airport express |
| 19:11.10 | wps | wireless networking |
| 19:11.19 | jhmaughan | "MacBook Pro even supports the new Express Card/34 standard for further expansion." |
| 19:11.33 | wps | oh, that must be expansions cards, sorry |
| 19:12.45 | jhmaughan | i'm glad they aren't using that flimsy power cord adapter anymore |
| 19:12.47 | jhmaughan | that's a nice touch |
| 19:13.31 | jhmaughan | it's about time the PowerBook line got a monster :) |
| 19:13.40 | jhmaughan | too bad it's no longer a powerbook |
| 19:13.57 | jhmaughan | i wonder if they will drop the word "Power" from everything that's not PowerPC? |
| 19:14.22 | jhmaughan | new battery too |
| 19:14.26 | jhmaughan | lithium POLYMER |
| 19:14.29 | jhmaughan | whateer that is |
| 19:17.46 | feutetejsd | it would make sense to drop Power |
| 19:17.59 | feutetejsd | sad, but smart |
| 19:18.36 | wps | pro is the new power |
| 19:19.38 | feutetejsd | Intel=pro, PPC=power |
| 19:31.37 | jhmaughan | interesting... |
| 19:31.57 | jhmaughan | well...i guess i'll just wait till the next Macwhatever for the Mac Media Center... |
| 19:32.38 | wps | all-in-all, I am more excited to see them release a new laptop than a media center something |
| 19:32.48 | wps | whatever happens computers should remain their main focus |
| 19:32.56 | jhmaughan | true true |
| 19:33.11 | jhmaughan | plus, the laptop line has been waiting much longer than the media line |
| 19:33.37 | jhmaughan | i can't even imagine 4x faster |
| 19:33.41 | jhmaughan | that's insane |
| 19:33.52 | jhmaughan | if that's the case, no one will buy anything that's not intel |
| 19:34.29 | jhmaughan | at least i'd think so |
| 19:34.52 | jhmaughan | that bus speed though...wow |
| 19:34.54 | jhmaughan | insane |
| 19:34.55 | jhmaughan | :) |
| 19:35.09 | jhmaughan | finally though, we are comparing oranges to oranges |
| 19:35.58 | wps | true |
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| 19:54.10 | wps | I finally found a pic of the iPod Radio Remote |
| 19:54.51 | wps | http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/01/remote.jpg |
| 19:55.35 | wps | the only thing that's come down the software update pipe so far is the QT update |
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| 20:24.58 | feutetejsd | any rumors about whether the DuoCore will be used for all macs, or if, say, PowerMacs will be Pentium 4 or something? |
| 20:40.29 | wps | haven't heard anything, but I can't see them using anything but dual hear on out |
| 20:41.02 | feutetejsd | hmmmm |
| 20:41.37 | feutetejsd | and I know it won't happen, and for many good reasons, but I would love to see OS X run legitimately on non-Apple hardware |
| 20:42.56 | wps | really? |
| 20:45.31 | feutetejsd | you bet....the cost of hardware is prohibitive for me |
| 20:45.53 | feutetejsd | if I could build a screaming Intel box on the cheap and then run OS X on it, I'd be happy as a clam |
| 20:46.17 | feutetejsd | don't get me wrong, I prefer the Apple hardware's design and perfect integration with the OS, but I can't justify the $$ |
| 20:46.43 | wps | keynote is posted |
| 20:47.23 | wps | http://macworld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/mw/index.html |
| 20:48.23 | feutetejsd | The money factor is a huge reason I love Linux....free OS that runs on cheap hardware....In some ways, it's getting difficult to stay 100% faithful (I feel like I'm confessing to my bishop) |
| 20:48.39 | feutetejsd | but don't worry, I haven't left the fold!!! |
| 20:52.00 | feutetejsd | cboyack, have you gotten your quad back from the shop yet? |
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| 22:51.47 | wps | anyone getting the system update yet? |
| 22:52.01 | feutetejsd | is it Tiger only? |
| 22:52.46 | wps | yes, to 10.4.4 |
| 22:53.00 | feutetejsd | ah, then the answer (at least from me) is no :) |
