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| 15:26.57 | wps | welcome, jayswede |
| 15:27.47 | jayswede | Thanks, I guess this is the calm before the storm? |
| 15:29.17 | wps | depends |
| 15:29.24 | wps | we'll see how many show |
| 15:31.57 | jayswede | this room is usually dead. I've come a couple time during the rest of the year and you're the first person that's ever been here |
| 15:32.17 | wps | yup |
| 15:32.27 | wps | I just stay here to keep the channel alive |
| 15:32.35 | wps | and hope that people mind come some day |
| 15:35.45 | jayswede | if you build it they will come, huh? |
| 15:37.42 | wps | 'twould be nice |
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| 16:10.55 | bismark90 | 50 minutes and counting... |
| 16:11.31 | jayswede | I just want it to start already so that I can get back to work |
| 16:11.58 | wps | I've already planned on no productivity for the next two hours |
| 16:12.37 | bismark90 | my boss and basically everyone on my team is in san jose for meetings, so its just me and the other intern... fine by me! |
| 16:13.34 | jayswede | I only planned not being productive from keynote start to finish. I think everybody has just uselessness for the next little bit |
| 16:14.43 | jhmaughan | i always debate whether to be useless from 11-12pm MDT while waiting through the whole keynote, or just save my uselessness from 12-12:15pm and read the summaries :) |
| 16:14.58 | wps | I plan on both |
| 16:15.11 | wps | and then another hour and a half this evening to watch the keynote once the video stream is up :) |
| 16:16.09 | jhmaughan | and then two hours the next day planning your shopping list? ;) |
| 16:16.22 | wps | not usuallyâ¦Â I usually don't get to go buy the new toy |
| 16:16.28 | wps | this round is a pleasant exception |
| 16:16.51 | wps | with my employer having committed funds for a new iPhone today over a month ago |
| 16:17.09 | wps | does the happy dance |
| 16:17.46 | jayswede | jayswede = jealous |
| 16:17.51 | jhmaughan | nice |
| 16:26.49 | bismark90 | engadget live blog has started |
| 16:27.43 | bismark90 | which live blogs are you all watching? |
| 16:28.41 | wps | I follow MacRumors IRC |
| 16:28.58 | jayswede | engadget and macrumorslive.com |
| 16:29.30 | wps | those are the two best websites |
| 16:29.38 | bismark90 | engadget is finally updating at the top of the page.. |
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| 16:37.16 | Fredjikrang | Good morning everyone! |
| 16:37.28 | jhmaughan | top of the morning to ya |
| 16:37.33 | bismark90 | morning fred |
| 16:37.53 | jayswede | great morning courtesy of jobs himself |
| 16:38.01 | Fredjikrang | lol |
| 16:38.52 | Fredjikrang | What's the macrumors server/room again? |
| 16:39.06 | wps | irc.krono.net |
| 16:39.11 | wps | #macrumors |
| 16:40.38 | jayswede | Any ideas why Colloquy decided to start consuming 97% of one of my cores? |
| 16:40.38 | jayswede | or is my macbook pro just as excited as i am about the keynote? |
| 16:41.03 | wps | not sure |
| 16:41.06 | wps | something is wrong |
| 16:41.30 | wps | mine uses less than 3% |
| 16:41.59 | jayswede | mine was using 3% when I started but something has happened... |
| 16:42.04 | jayswede | back in a sec |
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| 16:53.54 | Fredjikrang | When are they going to quiet the macrumors channel? It is somewhat annoying. |
| 16:54.01 | wps | somewhat? |
| 16:54.07 | wps | it's extremely annoying |
| 16:54.13 | wps | driving me crazy |
| 16:54.27 | wps | I wish they'd lock it down an hour before |
| 16:54.57 | jayswede | there is another macrumors channel that is just the macrumors team that can post |
| 16:55.08 | jayswede | irc.macrumorslive.com |
| 16:55.12 | jayswede | #macrumors |
| 16:55.29 | Fredjikrang | ah, that's the one I want |
| 16:56.07 | wps | thank you jayswede! |
| 16:56.49 | jayswede | that's the last address I got off twitter before it started complaining about too many API requests |
| 16:58.20 | jayswede | has anybody ever been to wwdc? |
| 16:58.23 | wps | something that always makes me laugh on Keynote days⦠|
| 16:58.59 | wps | is when friends or coworkers come running up to me half an hour after all of the news is out asking "did you hear???" |
| 16:59.18 | wps | did you forget who I am? |
| 16:59.36 | wps | I heard two hours ago |
| 17:01.19 | jayswede | we can't all have your dedication |
| 17:01.28 | wps | :) |
| 17:01.59 | wps | I can't stand Al Gore |
| 17:02.09 | wps | and the attention he gets |
| 17:02.32 | jayswede | I think he deserves most of it |
| 17:02.41 | jayswede | he did invent the internet afterall |
| 17:02.43 | jayswede | :) |
| 17:02.51 | wps | I think he and Bill Clinton should elope to a deserted island |
| 17:03.06 | jayswede | don't we have a spare one where we test nukes? |
| 17:03.21 | wps | I'd hope so |
| 17:03.31 | wps | kâ¦Â it's three after |
| 17:03.34 | wps | I'm done waiting |
| 17:03.37 | wps | let's get this party started |
| 17:05.36 | wps | crazy Sunday, yesterday |
| 17:05.41 | wps | gas leak at my chapel |
| 17:06.39 | jayswede | why can't we have a live video feed? |
| 17:06.50 | jayswede | I'd pay a nominal fee |
| 17:07.02 | wps | really? |
| 17:07.06 | wps | interesting |
| 17:07.08 | wps | I wouldn't |
| 17:07.22 | wps | a few hours for video doesn't matter much to me |
| 17:07.32 | wps | I wouldn't be able to watch a video feed at work anyway |
| 17:07.37 | wps | I can get away with IRC, but not video |
| 17:08.00 | jayswede | nominal being 5 bucks that I can split up amongst my friends who are watching in an auditorium on campus |
| 17:08.35 | jayswede | I'd call in sick to work |
| 17:08.47 | jayswede | college students are expected to be flaky |
| 17:11.08 | bismark90 | im wondering why we havent been seeing more iphone app preview w/ 4000 people in it.. |
| 17:12.04 | bismark90 | snow leopard... |
| 17:13.36 | jhmaughan | i swear this is always like Christmas... |
| 17:13.55 | jhmaughan | i am trying to keep one Space on my work and another Space on this stuff |
| 17:14.10 | jhmaughan | convnenient to move back and forth... |
| 17:20.26 | wps | I'm guessing that they are demoing these new features an old phone |
| 17:20.54 | jhmaughan | pretty slick to see how Apple has such a variety of useful development tools |
| 17:29.41 | Fredjikrang | Well, seeing as this is just about the iPhone, I'm going to go take a shower. |
| 17:29.52 | jayswede | Secret audio stream of WWDC: http://tinyurl.com/6kh9a6 care of Kevin Rose |
| 17:30.31 | jhmaughan | sounded like someone went and hit the head |
| 17:33.43 | wps | bummerâ¦Â got sucked into a meeting |
| 17:33.44 | wps | :( |
| 17:41.00 | wps | test |
| 17:41.53 | bismark90 | test? |
| 17:42.20 | wps | yup |
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| 17:43.35 | jhmaughan | so how long does this keynote usually go? |
| 17:43.44 | jhmaughan | an hour? |
| 17:44.03 | jhmaughan | 90 minutes? |
| 17:44.27 | bismark90 | 90 i thought... |
| 17:44.28 | bismark90 | i hope? |
| 17:45.03 | Fredjikrang | usually an hour I thought |
| 17:45.24 | bismark90 | gonna be quite a disapointment if it is... |
| 17:45.40 | bismark90 | no way they can fit new iphone hardware in 15 minutes |
| 17:45.44 | Fredjikrang | Well, there is still the Snow Leopard preview later |
| 17:49.40 | jhmaughan | oh yeah, when was "later" supposed to be for Snow Leopard? |
| 17:50.44 | bismark90 | after lunch |
| 17:50.51 | bismark90 | whatever that means~ |
| 17:51.08 | bismark90 | am i going to have to give up working all day so i can watch multiple keynotes?! |
| 17:53.18 | bismark90 | lalala... third party apps are cool... but... next? |
| 17:54.37 | jayswede | no kidding. I'm done with the apps |
| 17:54.47 | jayswede | I want my new iphone! |
| 17:55.06 | bismark90 | looks like third party apps will go up till 11 |
| 17:55.36 | jhmaughan | i suppose this *is* a developer conference and most of those there are probably software developers... |
| 17:55.45 | jhmaughan | so i guess that's why the apps are oing for a while |
| 17:56.02 | jhmaughan | i'm kind of a gadget geek myself, so I'm always looking for the hardware announcements |
| 17:58.34 | Fredjikrang | yeah, me too. |
| 18:01.28 | bismark90 | cool, background support |
| 18:02.04 | wps | what does that mean? |
| 18:02.05 | Fredjikrang | wazat? |
| 18:02.06 | wps | desktop pictures? |
| 18:02.29 | bismark90 | running apps in the background?? |
| 18:02.33 | wps | ah |
| 18:04.57 | bismark90 | push notification... |
| 18:07.49 | jhmaughan | oooh, complete support for office docs...mmmm gooood |
| 18:08.06 | jhmaughan | well, assuming complete means editable |
| 18:09.12 | Fredjikrang | sweet price for the Touch upgrade. |
| 18:09.15 | bismark90 | dang... so cool |
| 18:09.28 | bismark90 | in july?!....hmmmmm |
| 18:09.40 | bismark90 | is that when we will see a hardware refresh then? |
| 18:09.55 | wps | dang |
| 18:10.00 | wps | I'm mad I waited |
| 18:10.12 | jhmaughan | gonna wait another month? |
| 18:10.51 | bismark90 | could always just be a hardware refresh with the same firmware? |
| 18:11.42 | bismark90 | cool, small apps over cell network |
| 18:13.50 | bismark90 | new!! |
| 18:14.11 | bismark90 | crap.. |
| 18:14.15 | bismark90 | well |
| 18:14.20 | bismark90 | cool, but.. not what we hoped? |
| 18:15.09 | jhmaughan | what's interesting is that Apple is building a platform with the iPhone, not just another phone |
| 18:15.59 | jhmaughan | All of those other smart phones by HTC, Samsung, whatever, are practically their own thing. NOt really upgradeable, and only in some cases a full platform like in the case of Windows Mobile, but WM support is kind of a mixed back |
| 18:16.01 | jhmaughan | *bag |
| 18:19.41 | bismark90 | will it be $99?? |
| 18:19.47 | bismark90 | i might just get it then... |
| 18:23.21 | bismark90 | now i am getting antsy... is this going to be it?! |
| 18:24.25 | Fredjikrang | long keynote |
| 18:24.43 | jhmaughan | yeah for realz |
| 18:24.52 | jhmaughan | i'm out folks, gotta head into work finally |
| 18:24.54 | ammonkc | how long? its already been going for 90 minutes |
| 18:27.16 | bismark90 | 2 hours i bet |
| 18:27.39 | jayswede | 20 gigs for $99! |
| 18:28.52 | Fredjikrang | ? |
| 18:28.55 | bismark90 | dang |
| 18:29.09 | Fredjikrang | Where'd you see that? |
| 18:29.33 | bismark90 | engadget |
| 18:29.36 | jayswede | engadget and heard it on the audio stream |
| 18:29.40 | bismark90 | "It's available for $99 per year -- 20GB of storage." |
| 18:29.50 | ammonkc | where is the audio stream? |
| 18:29.52 | bismark90 | birthday time |
| 18:30.26 | Fredjikrang | oh. Me.com you mean. |
| 18:30.35 | Fredjikrang | Thought you meant a new iPhone. |
| 18:30.39 | jayswede | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wwdc-2008-live-keynote-audio-stream |
| 18:30.53 | jayswede | I wish |
| 18:31.18 | Fredjikrang | new iPhone time! |
| 18:31.57 | Fredjikrang | 3G, cheaper, |
| 18:32.00 | Fredjikrang | sounds good |
| 18:32.47 | bismark90 | agreed |
| 18:33.46 | Fredjikrang | How can you take everything you have learned and more |
| 18:33.50 | Fredjikrang | ? |
| 18:35.07 | jayswede | psychic abilities? |
| 18:35.22 | Fredjikrang | lol |
| 18:36.23 | bismark90 | 8 gb shown on the pic.. |
| 18:36.33 | bismark90 | maybe they couldn't fit in more storage yet |
| 18:36.51 | Fredjikrang | lol, I love the little "better looking" comment |
| 18:38.41 | ammonkc | the camera looks improved |
| 18:39.05 | Fredjikrang | an actual GPS as well |
| 18:40.07 | jayswede | writing out the check to buy one now... |
| 18:40.47 | bismark90 | economic stimulus package baby! |
| 18:41.28 | jayswede | tell me where to line up jobs! |
| 18:41.42 | bismark90 | here comes the price..... |
| 18:44.29 | jayswede | the irs should have just sent my check to apple |
| 18:45.18 | Fredjikrang | $200 |
| 18:45.24 | ammonkc | The toughest decision is what to do with my old iPhone |
| 18:45.49 | Fredjikrang | how hard is it to use without a phone plan? |
| 18:46.02 | bismark90 | get an ipod touch? |
| 18:46.12 | Fredjikrang | no camera |
| 18:47.18 | Fredjikrang | Hmm. "Maximum price?" Does that mean that it may be lower? |
| 18:48.19 | jayswede | iPhone 3G, the announcement that brought down twitter |
| 18:48.39 | Fredjikrang | lol |
| 18:48.50 | Fredjikrang | did it really? |
| 18:49.26 | jayswede | yeah, I wonder how long it will be down |
| 18:49.56 | ammonkc | well twitter goes down everyday |
| 18:50.24 | jayswede | true |
| 18:51.06 | ammonkc | Twitter basically only has 3 databases. 1 master and 2 slaves |
| 19:04.27 | jayswede | Well, time to go be productive |
| 19:07.12 | Fredjikrang | Any ideas when the Snow Leopard preview will be? |
| 19:07.43 | wps | soâ¦Â back from my meeting |
| 19:07.46 | wps | missed everything |
| 19:07.51 | wps | when is the new hardware available? |
| 19:08.07 | Fredjikrang | July 11th. |
| 19:08.26 | wps | so all of the shipments to Apple Storesâ¦Â decoys? |
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| 19:08.39 | wps | or just more old iPhones? |
| 19:08.54 | Fredjikrang | probably demos. There is a second presentation later today though. Overview of 10.6 |
| 19:12.23 | wps | so there will be hardware updates for sure? but the new OS will run on the old hardware also? |
| 19:12.53 | Fredjikrang | yes |
| 19:12.59 | wps | cool |
| 19:13.27 | wps | did they say what will change in the new hardware? |
| 19:13.44 | Fredjikrang | 3G, GPS, better battery life for somethings |
| 19:13.50 | Fredjikrang | that's about it |
| 19:14.04 | wps | those three things are big though |
| 19:14.10 | Fredjikrang | yeah |
| 19:14.25 | Fredjikrang | the majority of the keynote was an overview of software |
| 19:14.29 | Fredjikrang | It is cheaper too |
| 19:14.47 | Fredjikrang | $200 for 8Gb, $300 for 16Gb |
| 19:14.51 | Fredjikrang | *GB |
| 19:15.29 | wps | does MobileMe replace .Mac or is it it's own thing? |
| 19:16.08 | Fredjikrang | me.com replaces .Mac |
| 19:16.20 | Fredjikrang | 20GB storage, $99 |
| 19:19.39 | Fredjikrang | well, I'm going to eat lunch |