| 00:00.09 | TheRedBaron | gee our topic is going to develop multiple personalities... |
| 00:00.28 | TheRedBaron | ~lart baron's computer |
| 00:00.36 | TheRedBaron | join #Icf |
| 00:01.11 | TheRedBaron | please ignore me and my technical issues |
| 00:01.38 | Thonolan | ok |
| 00:02.00 | TheRedBaron | this keyboard has some issues :( |
| 00:02.08 | TheRedBaron | ~lart this keyboard |
| 00:02.12 | Thonolan | need hammer ? |
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| 00:02.18 | Admirarch | Hey! |
| 00:02.21 | kierra | smellie |
| 00:02.25 | ThatSmell | Yo :-) |
| 00:02.27 | Thonolan | smellie |
| 00:02.29 | kierra | :) |
| 00:02.35 | ThatSmell | It is I... the odor |
| 00:02.56 | kierra | oh, odiferous one |
| 00:02.56 | *** mode/#bz-inc [+o ThatSmell] by ChanServ |
| 00:03.04 | TheRedBaron | That putrification! |
| 00:03.17 | ThatSmell | Yes... Putrid Peter |
| 00:03.25 | TheRedBaron | PP for short ;) |
| 00:03.49 | ThatSmell | Heh... yes. wonderful. |
| 00:03.53 | ThatSmell | I see matching has occured! |
| 00:04.13 | ThatSmell | I was out braving the fifth hell of Christmas acquisition today. |
| 00:04.16 | Thonolan | yes we get squeeeeezzzzed |
| 00:04.26 | ThatSmell | Heh... no comment :-0 |
| 00:04.38 | TheRedBaron | yikes thatsmell ! |
| 00:04.49 | ThatSmell | yikes??? |
| 00:04.59 | Thonolan | i didnt know that 30 min can takes so long .... |
| 00:05.05 | TheRedBaron | christmams acquisition... I do not envy you ;) |
| 00:05.07 | ThatSmell | bah! |
| 00:05.10 | TheRedBaron | I've still yet to do mine |
| 00:05.22 | ThatSmell | well... tis not so bad here I have my ways... and odors. |
| 00:06.18 | Thonolan | ok good nite all :) |
| 00:06.25 | TheRedBaron | nite thono! |
| 00:06.27 | TheRedBaron | sweet dreams :) |
| 00:06.31 | kierra | gnite |
| 00:06.31 | ThatSmell | gute nacht |
| 00:06.33 | Thonolan | ;) |
| 00:06.41 | Thonolan | hehe cool ts |
| 00:06.48 | Thonolan | gute nacht |
| 00:06.50 | ThatSmell | schlaf shoen |
| 00:07.01 | Thonolan | danke danke |
| 00:07.01 | Admirarch | Anybody feel like coming and shooting people with me? |
| 00:07.07 | ThatSmell | bitte sehr |
| 00:07.16 | ThatSmell | yes! indeed! |
| 00:07.59 | Admirarch | The hot an happening action is on catay's server |
| 00:08.03 | ThatSmell | I'd even be willing to play bzflag if we can't find people to shoot. |
| 00:10.35 | kierra | ma me mi mo mu |
| 00:11.49 | kierra | ~proxs |
| 00:12.19 | Birdie | goodnight |
| 00:12.30 | kierra | g'nite pajarito |
| 00:12.37 | kierra | lol |
| 00:13.13 | *** kick/#bz-inc [kierra!n=47009e97@genesis.concept69.de] by TheRedBaron ("i'm the dj here!") |
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| 00:14.13 | *** kick/#bz-inc [TheRedBaron!n=Owner@fl-71-0-158-151.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] by kierra ( behave or i tell the bear) |
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| 00:14.32 | TheRedBaron | I don't tolerate DJ competition |
| 00:14.44 | kierra | :P |
| 00:14.48 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 00:15.03 | kierra | dont flash those dimples at me |
| 00:15.11 | ThatSmell | trb is actually dj in real life? |
| 00:15.15 | kierra | i'm immune |
| 00:15.17 | TheRedBaron | My job is to expand the music taste of those in this channel :) |
| 00:15.21 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: hardly |
| 00:15.29 | TheRedBaron | I only sing here in the channel |
| 00:15.31 | ThatSmell | ah. beware. |
| 00:15.40 | ThatSmell | oh. well. that could be interesting. |
| 00:15.42 | TheRedBaron | where its the written word :) |
| 00:15.46 | kierra | smellie, do you know that trb is my son? |
| 00:16.08 | ThatSmell | yes. indeed the entire baron* clan :-0 |
| 00:16.20 | ThatSmell | Why you are not "Momma Baron" I do not know :-) |
| 00:16.31 | kierra | lol |
| 00:16.34 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: long long story ;) |
| 00:16.49 | kierra | at the time i joined bz, the barons was a long established team |
| 00:16.54 | kierra | and i was just a noob |
| 00:16.59 | ThatSmell | But it has "grim" meaning... it suits my punny mind. |
| 00:17.07 | kierra | besides who wants to bbe on a team with your mom |
| 00:17.18 | ThatSmell | i cannot get into pub dub. whassahp widdat? |
| 00:17.27 | TheRedBaron | the women of bz, have a bad reputation of randomlyl and frequently changing their callsigns |
| 00:17.34 | kierra | lol |
| 00:17.37 | TheRedBaron | its confusing... |
| 00:17.41 | TheRedBaron | and they cannot deny it. |
| 00:17.42 | kierra | i only have 2 registered |
| 00:17.47 | ThatSmell | as opposed to those outside of bz??? |
| 00:17.54 | kierra | you play under multiple aliases |
| 00:18.03 | TheRedBaron | pray tell... do you play on "registered only" servers, that require it |
| 00:18.07 | TheRedBaron | me? nope |
| 00:18.14 | ThatSmell | I pretend to use several but I'm usually (>>90%) That Smell. |
| 00:18.18 | TheRedBaron | I have 0tto, which was created for testing the beta global logins |
| 00:18.40 | kierra | and some others which i wont mention so as not to give you away |
| 00:18.44 | TheRedBaron | and TrB when global auth is broken, and I still want to be recognized as TRB |
| 00:18.47 | TheRedBaron | what others? |
| 00:19.00 | ThatSmell | Well... i hear that adm's at pub dub... but i cannot get there without crashing my bz client. so no warmup for moi! |
| 00:19.06 | TheRedBaron | my only other anon is "Bad Botulism" or "Bad Opulence" |
| 00:19.16 | kierra | thats 4 so far |
| 00:19.19 | ThatSmell | me: Buck Nekkid and Colonel Panic |
| 00:19.23 | TheRedBaron | pfff. |
| 00:19.29 | kierra | shocking |
| 00:19.31 | Admirarch | I have at least 7 |
| 00:19.33 | kierra | ah |
| 00:19.37 | TheRedBaron | TheRedBaron and TrB mean the same thing |
| 00:19.45 | ThatSmell | i have more but have forgotten most of them. |
| 00:19.49 | kierra | well then adm, i will own up to about 6 |
| 00:19.49 | TheRedBaron | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.57 | ThatSmell | Yes. I cannot separate between trb and theredbaron. |
| 00:20.07 | TheRedBaron | exactly |
| 00:20.11 | ThatSmell | they are interchangeable and I thank heavens for "trb" :-) |
| 00:20.24 | kierra | i'm done here |
| 00:20.28 | kierra | time for real life |
| 00:20.33 | kierra | see you later |
| 00:20.34 | ThatSmell | and what exactly did you do? |
| 00:20.36 | TheRedBaron | exactly! so people don't have to type "The Red Baron" every single time :) |
| 00:20.43 | ThatSmell | yes! |
| 00:20.48 | Admirarch | (Admirarch, Galcian, Athelthral, Thruthelthrolth, Dancing Princess of Wales, player17 and I forget the last one) |
| 00:20.50 | ThatSmell | He sees my intent |
| 00:20.57 | TheRedBaron | Dancing princess of wales! |
| 00:20.58 | kierra | galcian!!! |
| 00:21.06 | TheRedBaron | thats my favorite :) |
| 00:21.11 | ThatSmell | Oh yah. Gimme Back My Bullets. |
| 00:21.26 | ThatSmell | Another Lynyrd Skynyrd one for BZ. More fitting than That Smell. |
| 00:21.33 | ThatSmell | always forget that one. |
| 00:21.34 | TheRedBaron | ug. |
| 00:21.43 | ThatSmell | Alright Adm. where you be? |
| 00:21.52 | Admirarch | Back on catays |
| 00:21.56 | Admirarch | I was briefly on dub |
| 00:22.15 | Admirarch | The Dancing Princess is my second most impenetrable bzflag in joke |
| 00:22.39 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: have you seen "Sweating bullets" lately |
| 00:22.48 | ThatSmell | No. Not for a very long time. |
| 00:22.57 | ThatSmell | I do miss that Indian Hick. |
| 00:23.03 | TheRedBaron | man, He's one I'd like to recruit for bz-inc |
| 00:23.14 | Admirarch | He was on today |
| 00:23.19 | Admirarch | Briefly |
| 00:23.27 | Admirarch | Haven't seen him otherwise for ages |
| 00:23.30 | ThatSmell | I could ask him. We get along rather well. |
| 00:23.36 | TheRedBaron | that means i'll have to kick admirarch off ;) |
| 00:23.42 | ThatSmell | But of course, KC would think you're stealing his people. |
| 00:23.44 | Admirarch | TrB: But then we'd have to raid BaR |
| 00:24.12 | TheRedBaron | barbarians? good heavens, I thought that place was devoid of all civility |
| 00:24.48 | ThatSmell | well - they are barbarians... |
| 00:25.00 | ThatSmell | alright! I need a warmup! |
| 00:25.09 | TheRedBaron | ~warm thatsmell |
| 00:25.11 | Admirarch | Also, they're the only people who can compete with us when my master plan to change the scoring system so it's based on witty comebacks works out |
| 00:25.23 | Admirarch | ThatSmell: Quick bit of 1vs1? |
| 00:25.26 | TheRedBaron | Admirarch: oh dear |
| 00:25.28 | ThatSmell | yes! |
| 00:25.39 | ThatSmell | i'm terrified of my mac. |
| 00:25.50 | TheRedBaron | We'd have a master team between Sweating bullets and ThatSmell |
| 00:25.53 | ThatSmell | so i need to warmup. on my linux box i'm happy w/o warmup. |
| 00:26.02 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... |
| 00:26.20 | TheRedBaron | if we could keep them from creating comebacks between themselves... |
| 00:26.28 | TheRedBaron | Heavens have you seen the 2 of them on the same server? |
| 00:26.49 | TheRedBaron | I've never seen so many lame, and hilarious jokes fly :) |
| 00:31.09 | TheRedBaron | why? when something is eaten, are the boys always supsected to be guilty, and accused? |
| 00:32.47 | TheRedBaron | maybe my innocence act needs a little working on.. |
| 00:37.50 | ThatSmell | yah know. even with osx the mac is still a might hunk. |
| 00:39.18 | TheRedBaron | eh? |
| 00:39.37 | ThatSmell | at home... i use a mac. (dual-G4) |
| 00:40.11 | ThatSmell | it comes with a host of features... such as drift. |
| 00:40.17 | Admirarch | Plenty of people use macs for bz |
| 00:40.38 | Admirarch | Let's take skit and mikkel for example |
| 00:40.42 | ThatSmell | hmmm... not happy with mine - for this. primarily use it for recording mushc. |
| 00:40.50 | ThatSmell | music. |
| 00:41.02 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... i shall talk to them then. perhaps they have something set up better. |
| 00:41.22 | ThatSmell | one day it's fine the next (today) I'm getting drift andthe client hangs. pitty. |
| 00:42.38 | ThatSmell | Now the client's just panicking on startup. |
| 00:43.44 | Admirarch | So I'm going to have to decline this nice match offer from HoW? |
| 00:43.58 | ThatSmell | heh. i m working on it. gimme a second here :-0 |
| 00:44.05 | ThatSmell | don' want to not match. |
| 00:44.55 | ThatSmell | Where r you @? |
| 00:45.09 | Admirarch | proxs |
| 00:46.22 | Admirarch | So are we matching? |
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| 00:48.42 | Admirarch | Awww? |
| 00:49.13 | SC-phone | my computer is in the refrigerator |
| 00:49.26 | SC-phone | ~proxs |
| 00:50.24 | SC-phone | and I was SUPPOSED to be playing in THAT match |
| 00:50.33 | TheRedBaron | refrigerator? |
| 00:50.48 | SC-phone | it overheated |
| 00:50.53 | TheRedBaron | it it a rather cold place to play? |
| 00:50.56 | SC-phone | i'm cooling it off |
| 00:51.03 | TheRedBaron | so you stick it in the refrigerator.... |
| 00:51.13 | TheRedBaron | I've heard of everything now... |
| 00:51.31 | SC-phone | well it's the 1st time - it was huby's idea |
| 00:52.44 | SC-phone | ~proxs |
| 00:53.58 | SC-phone | theredbaron: mis tried to mke me play v. tbo earlier :p |
| 00:54.21 | ThatSmell | Adm: he's good for a match. Tell. G. |
| 00:54.40 | Admirarch | Whereto? |
| 00:54.46 | ThatSmell | adm: we meet @ dub pub |
| 00:55.26 | SC-phone | ~proxs |
| 00:55.50 | TheRedBaron | why not the freezer? |
| 00:56.04 | SC-phone | doesn't fit |
| 00:56.15 | TheRedBaron | sc-phone: you didn't play with mistake? |
| 00:56.22 | SC-phone | no |
| 00:57.50 | SC-phone | it was against mikk & cass... at 1st thought it was 3v3 & mis had left to get a third. when he came back, they only had 2 |
| 00:58.16 | SC-phone | besides, hubby wd have been mad...we were christmas shopping online |
| 00:59.29 | SC-phone | I LIKE playing w mis tho... he teased me after & told me next time I had to play |
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| 01:03.33 | TheRedBaron | so... what does bzbot do? |
| 01:03.52 | Admirarch | BZBot: What do you do? |
| 01:04.16 | Admirarch | Well it's certainly ill mannered |
| 01:04.23 | TheRedBaron | quite |
| 01:04.27 | TheRedBaron | !lart bzboto |
| 01:05.13 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... slime just wandered in. But I see no other pbx's online. |
| 01:05.14 | TheRedBaron | ~lart BL |
| 01:07.27 | ThatSmell | Odd... purl. Violent bots. |
| 01:07.42 | ThatSmell | Not only that - but they have an attitude to go with. |
| 01:07.59 | ThatSmell | ack! mikkel and skit at dub pub. |
| 01:08.01 | ThatSmell | grrrr. |
| 01:09.03 | Admirarch | I'm not awake enough to match those two |
| 01:09.25 | Admirarch | Wait a minute. I'll never be awake enough to match those two |
| 01:10.00 | ThatSmell | oh well.. right then. I shall just play quietly for a bit. :-P |
| 01:10.38 | Admirarch | If you have your heart set on matching them then ask and I'll play |
| 01:15.47 | ThatSmell | no no. i think you sould rest. |
| 01:15.59 | ThatSmell | we need to win a few. |
| 01:16.10 | ThatSmell | but thanks. as i said. there's tomorrow. |
| 01:16.17 | ThatSmell | we have better chances then. |
| 01:16.38 | ThatSmell | But I much appreciate and admire your resolve :-) |
| 01:16.53 | Admirarch | Please, I prefer stupidity |
| 01:17.06 | ThatSmell | Hah! hardly. |
| 01:17.47 | ThatSmell | If we were in a corner it's resolve such as yours that would win the day. |
| 01:17.56 | ThatSmell | But tis hardly necessary now. :-0 |
| 01:18.56 | ThatSmell | What's irritating to me is the HoW situation. |
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| 01:19.33 | SC-phone | argh... my computer is sooo borked |
| 01:19.46 | ThatSmell | bork bork bork bork. |
| 01:19.54 | SC-phone | not funny |
| 01:20.03 | SC-phone | it won't even boot |
| 01:20.03 | ThatSmell | Swedish Chef? |
| 01:20.11 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... windows? |
| 01:20.16 | SC-phone | yeah |
| 01:20.22 | SC-phone | unfortunately |
| 01:20.29 | ThatSmell | does it get past bios? |
| 01:20.40 | SC-phone | and I do not have my boot disk |
| 01:20.40 | ThatSmell | and then panic on you? or not even into bios. |
| 01:20.43 | SC-phone | barely |
| 01:20.51 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... |
| 01:20.57 | ThatSmell | Well... |
| 01:21.06 | SC-phone | it gets past & freezes trying to boot win |
| 01:21.13 | ThatSmell | On Maui you have options. |
| 01:21.22 | ThatSmell | tried safe mode? |
| 01:21.25 | SC-phone | tried safe mode & it shut down mid way |
| 01:21.36 | ThatSmell | What time's it there? |
| 01:21.50 | SC-phone | 2 hrs b4 u |
| 01:21.51 | ThatSmell | Only round 2pm should be. |
| 01:22.12 | ThatSmell | Oh. So 3pm. Should run out and hit up a computer shop. I've seen plent of them there. |
| 01:22.21 | ThatSmell | where on the island are you/ |
| 01:22.27 | SC-phone | kul |
| 01:22.30 | SC-phone | kula |
| 01:22.38 | SC-phone | upcountry |
| 01:23.39 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... |
| 01:24.04 | ThatSmell | Kinda quiet up there. Only been through that place once mthinx. |
| 01:24.16 | ThatSmell | near the observatory? |
| 01:24.31 | ThatSmell | ~lart TheRedBaron |
| 01:24.39 | ThatSmell | heh. my kinda purl! |
| 01:24.43 | SC-phone | yeah... that is where hubby is working |
| 01:25.01 | ThatSmell | Ah! Really? Does he know Phil Lubin or Tony Antonucci? |
| 01:25.22 | SC-phone | better sing louder trb... my ipod batter died |
| 01:25.25 | ThatSmell | I used to work with them at UCSB. they went there frequently. |
| 01:25.28 | SC-phone | dunnp |
| 01:25.31 | ThatSmell | bah. ipod. |
| 01:25.58 | ThatSmell | Wait. If the Hubby's at the obs - they have plenty of boot disks. You can certainly borrow one :-) |
| 01:26.09 | SC-phone | 10000 songs in a tiny box |
| 01:26.25 | SC-phone | he's here...goes in at 9pm |
| 01:26.29 | ThatSmell | yah. I shall not discuss ipod for i like them not. |
| 01:27.05 | SC-phone | poor smelly |
| 01:27.07 | ThatSmell | So, what's he do at the obs? |
| 01:27.11 | TheRedBaron | http://www.bash.org/?520466 |
| 01:27.12 | ThatSmell | ???? Poor??? ??? |
| 01:27.47 | SC-phone | they are testing a new instrument...tonight w/b 1st run |
| 01:28.04 | SC-phone | I cannot look trb...what is it |
| 01:28.21 | SC-phone | ~proxs |
| 01:28.28 | TheRedBaron | SC-phone: never heard of bash.org? |
| 01:28.31 | TheRedBaron | Thats ok then |
| 01:28.46 | TheRedBaron | Its a sight of some of the stupid and funny things people say on IRC. |
| 01:29.01 | SC-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.06 | SC-phone | ok |
| 01:29.09 | ThatSmell | That's quite an entertaining little statement. |
| 01:29.21 | ThatSmell | What's the new instrument? |
| 01:29.26 | SC-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.49 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: yea, I appreciated the irony of it :) |
| 01:30.01 | ThatSmell | TRB: you want I should talk to sweating bullets? |
| 01:30.03 | SC-phone | some sort of camera that is designed to measure the absolute power of stars or something |
| 01:30.18 | ThatSmell | kewl. |
| 01:30.24 | ThatSmell | sounds like a lubin idea. |
| 01:30.28 | SC-phone | trb: can't u just cut & paste so I can see |
| 01:30.35 | ThatSmell | i worked for lubin for a year. |
| 01:30.49 | SC-phone | errr s/power/intensity...I think |
| 01:30.55 | ThatSmell | <JadussD> all i can say is, the native americans could not have had better vengeance on americans than tobacco :| |
| 01:31.02 | SC-phone | heh |
| 01:31.25 | ThatSmell | <JadussD> "hey, we're going to enslave, decimate, relocate, and destroy your way of life." |
| 01:31.41 | ThatSmell | <JadussD> "oh, okay. here, smoke this" |
| 01:32.06 | SC-phone | sounds like the abourigines in AU too |
| 01:33.09 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmeell: sure |
| 01:33.11 | SC-phone | their plight is pretty sad |
| 01:33.49 | ThatSmell | Ah. The entire thing is weird when you think it. |
| 01:34.06 | ThatSmell | tis normal for a technically superior society to displace another. |
| 01:34.24 | ThatSmell | then eventually we criticize ourselves for it until someone else comes in and does it to us. |
| 01:35.17 | TheRedBaron | ice cream! |
| 01:35.25 | SC-phone | well for societies that are totally nomadic, the "replacement" really was the destruction of their society, liestyle & entire culture |
| 01:35.49 | ThatSmell | yep. but it's human nature to do that. |
| 01:35.50 | TheRedBaron | thatsmell, you have another bzi teamate around? |
| 01:35.59 | ThatSmell | They came in and destroyed animal cultures too. |
| 01:36.12 | ThatSmell | If you could call it "culture". |
| 01:36.15 | SC-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:36.18 | TheRedBaron | 20:36] <a_n00b> Does anyone wish to match teh g33ks? |
| 01:36.18 | TheRedBaron | [20:36] <a_n00b> 2v2? |
| 01:36.18 | TheRedBaron | [20:37] <TheRedBaron> Bz-inc of course! |
| 01:36.18 | TheRedBaron | [20:37] <a_n00b> Ok |
| 01:36.18 | TheRedBaron | [20:37] <a_n00b> i'll get my teammy and cya at dub 59998 |
| 01:36.18 | TheRedBaron | [20:38] <a_n00b> if you can get a teammate that is |
| 01:36.19 | SC-phone | yeah |
| 01:36.45 | SC-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.08 | SC-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:37.12 | ThatSmell | Ack. I'd love to match. but I have to leave for a work related injury - i mean party - in five minutes. |
| 01:37.44 | SC-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.19 | ThatSmell | trb: no one. |
| 01:38.46 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... if we do it RIGHT now. I will of course do it :-) |
| 01:38.52 | SC-phone | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.58 | ThatSmell | I can be "fashionably" late. |
| 01:39.31 | SC-phone | how is snick on dub & catay's server?! |
| 01:39.47 | ThatSmell | two clients open? |
| 01:40.00 | SC-phone | hrm |
| 01:40.26 | SC-phone | and I can't even get 1 open |
| 01:41.11 | ThatSmell | ICM/TRB. What gives? |
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| 01:44.47 | ThatSmell | *grumble* |
| 01:48.42 | ThatSmell | Time to prep for boss' party. g'nite all. c u in the morn. |
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| 03:11.44 | TheRedBaron | ice cream... hmm :) |
| 03:11.55 | TheRedBaron | ~shellshock |
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| 03:31.13 | TheRedBaron | odod |
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| 09:51.49 | Thonolan | morning |
| 09:51.56 | Admirarch | Good morning |
| 10:01.42 | Birdie | morning |
| 10:03.39 | Thonolan | anybody seen catay? |
| 10:25.46 | Birdie | yesterday |
| 10:26.05 | Birdie | i understand that he is not here now though, every one talks to him about the same, its propably annoying |
| 10:35.06 | Thonolan | not everybody mtc and kierra |
| 10:35.46 | Thonolan | and here is our room so i see no reason t stay away |
| 10:36.15 | Thonolan | but now a few starts a witchhunt to how |
| 10:36.28 | Thonolan | well that all is poor |
| 10:36.46 | Thonolan | but thx for info birdie |
| 10:37.21 | Birdie | i didnt meaned that bad.. |
| 10:37.31 | Thonolan | i know |
| 10:37.32 | Birdie | i just think catay doesnt really feel like talking about all that |
| 10:37.38 | Birdie | i talked a little with him yesterday |
| 10:37.45 | Birdie | he wasnt happy |
| 10:38.12 | Thonolan | yeah its a shame that such nice guy like catay doesnt feel good ....... |
| 10:38.20 | Birdie | and he is between 2 fires now |
| 10:38.29 | Thonolan | yes.... |
| 10:38.34 | Birdie | if he does something against db now, he will get whole HoW over him |
| 10:38.46 | Thonolan | and that is what me made mad |
| 10:38.59 | Thonolan | catay is always neutral |
| 10:39.00 | Birdie | who was there on the time that it happened? |
| 10:39.04 | Thonolan | he will only play |
| 10:39.11 | Birdie | cause i think there were several admins who havent done a thing |
| 10:39.23 | Birdie | no one seem to have the guts to ban db:) |
| 10:39.24 | Thonolan | sc was there |
| 10:39.35 | Thonolan | db is admin too |
| 10:40.01 | Thonolan | and it is not a question of guts |
| 10:40.14 | Birdie | db is? |
| 10:40.17 | Birdie | hmm |
| 10:40.21 | Thonolan | referree |
| 10:40.26 | Birdie | oh |
| 10:40.31 | Birdie | i was talking about serveradmins |
| 10:40.46 | Birdie | its their task to do something against such behavour, thats why they have privs |
| 10:41.26 | Thonolan | well sc was there |
| 10:41.47 | Thonolan | but i dont understand that mtc wait so long |
| 10:42.06 | Thonolan | we had a match during that all |
| 10:42.20 | Birdie | on catays server? |
| 10:42.34 | Thonolan | i cant believe that a team wait one hour |
| 10:42.43 | Thonolan | that a jerks say ok we play |
| 10:42.52 | Thonolan | no admir and me went to dub |
| 10:43.05 | Thonolan | and why mtc play ? |
| 10:43.10 | Thonolan | without mikk? |
| 10:43.22 | Birdie | as far as i heard |
| 10:43.27 | Birdie | db asked them a match |
| 10:43.30 | Birdie | they agree |
| 10:43.35 | Birdie | than db: oh wait i cant |
| 10:43.35 | Thonolan | over one hour |
| 10:43.39 | Birdie | happened several times |
| 10:43.45 | Thonolan | yes over one hour |
| 10:43.49 | Birdie | yea.. |
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| 12:08.08 | Birdie | ciao sc-phone! |
| 12:08.23 | Birdie | does your gsm make a BEEB to when some one tells your name like on a real client? |
| 12:08.32 | SC-phone | no |
| 12:09.02 | Birdie | isnt it very expensive to have a phone like that? |
| 12:09.34 | SC-phone | and I do not know if I have pm without switching to a new window |
| 12:09.48 | Birdie | you need a BIG phone;) |
| 12:09.54 | SC-phone | :( my computer is broken |
| 12:09.59 | Birdie | au |
| 12:10.02 | Birdie | what happened |
| 12:10.49 | Birdie | what have you done |
| 12:11.06 | SC-phone | I do not know exactly... maybe the processer or the hd failed |
| 12:11.14 | SC-phone | it will not boot |
| 12:11.41 | SC-phone | I do not have a boot disc in hawaii w me |
| 12:12.25 | SC-phone | it will not even boot into safe mode |
| 12:12.52 | Birdie | oi |
| 12:12.54 | Birdie | than its bad |
| 12:13.05 | Birdie | it shutted down in once? |
| 12:13.26 | Birdie | or after the last time yuou shutted off, it simply didnt started anymore? |
| 12:13.30 | SC-phone | yes |
| 12:13.54 | SC-phone | (correct) |
| 12:14.32 | Birdie | hmm |
| 12:14.48 | Birdie | i hope for you you can fix it without formatting it |
| 12:14.56 | Birdie | but if its the HD..:( |
| 12:15.31 | Birdie | if you open your pc (or its a laptop?), can you see your ventilators still working? |
| 12:15.38 | Birdie | maybe your pc got overheated? |
| 12:15.55 | SC-phone | if it is the hd, I am in trouble - no back up |
| 12:16.21 | SC-phone | it is laptop |
| 12:16.46 | Birdie | oh you cant open it than |
| 12:16.50 | Birdie | well you _can_ but.. |
| 12:17.00 | Birdie | no backups at all? |
| 12:17.38 | SC-phone | :( I have been asking hubby to back it up, but no....none |
| 12:18.18 | SC-phone | it boots past bios but windows will not boot |
| 12:18.36 | Thonolan | no messages ? |
| 12:19.26 | Thonolan | no error messages ? |
| 12:19.36 | SC-phone | had a blue screen once w a message...hubby looked it up on his lappy & it was a driver for nero |
| 12:19.54 | SC-phone | it said to uninstall it but we have not been able to boot it to do so |
| 12:20.23 | Thonolan | safe mode even didnt boot ? |
| 12:20.29 | SC-phone | no messages otherwise, it just stalls between bios & windows booting |
| 12:20.33 | SC-phone | no |
| 12:20.40 | Thonolan | au |
| 12:21.07 | Thonolan | its xp ? |
| 12:21.11 | SC-phone | it stalls on windows light bllue screen - never progresses |
| 12:21.29 | SC-phone | yes win xp pro |
| 12:21.47 | Thonolan | any available cd in a shop ? |
| 12:22.25 | Thonolan | so you can start repair |
| 12:22.35 | Thonolan | you need an xp cd |
| 12:23.07 | Thonolan | our comp shops have such and if you go there maybe xp can fix problem |
| 12:23.10 | SC-phone | I think u have to have the original boot disk which is at home... I don't think hubby will let me take it to a shop since we have a service contract w the manufacturer |
| 12:23.24 | Thonolan | ah |
| 12:23.55 | Birdie | how long are you still in hawai? |
| 12:24.28 | SC-phone | I talked to toki last nite & he thinks it overheated & either a mem chip or processor failed, or possibly the hd |
| 12:24.33 | SC-phone | no :( |
| 12:24.44 | Thonolan | hmm |
| 12:24.51 | Thonolan | if you see bios? |
| 12:24.57 | SC-phone | until 15th...and then hubby not home until the 16th |
| 12:25.02 | Thonolan | it isnt overheated |
| 12:25.09 | SC-phone | no? |
| 12:25.14 | Thonolan | no i think not |
| 12:25.16 | SC-phone | it was v v hot |
| 12:25.36 | Thonolan | its an intel or an amd ? |
| 12:25.52 | Birdie | you meaned 15th december or 15th january? |
| 12:25.53 | SC-phone | it shut down a few times & had to wait 4 it to cool b4 I cd try to reboot |
| 12:26.19 | SC-phone | intel pentuim 4 3.4 ghz |
| 12:26.19 | SC-phone | dec |
| 12:27.03 | Thonolan | hm |
| 12:27.07 | Thonolan | i will look |
| 12:27.07 | SC-phone | sigh :( |
| 12:27.12 | Thonolan | dont worry |
| 12:27.27 | Thonolan | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:27.49 | Thonolan | because modern system has overheat protection |
| 12:27.54 | Thonolan | mostly |
| 12:28.09 | Birdie | true |
| 12:28.16 | Birdie | its a new laptop? |
| 12:28.21 | Birdie | _new_ all relative |
| 12:28.23 | Thonolan | so i fear its a problem from xp |
| 12:28.37 | Thonolan | when you not rebout clean |
| 12:28.44 | Thonolan | you destroy files |
| 12:28.49 | SC-phone | well I have complained to alienware that this has overheated b4 but never has resolution |
| 12:30.29 | Thonolan | its a pity that you cant use an cd to test |
| 12:30.53 | SC-phone | :( |
| 12:31.54 | Thonolan | ok i must go now |
| 12:32.00 | Thonolan | chin up sc |
| 12:32.30 | SC-phone | bye thono |
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| 12:34.41 | SC-phone | k :( |
| 12:34.53 | Birdie | cu thono |
| 12:34.56 | Birdie | hey kierra |
| 12:34.58 | Birdie | and i'm sorry sc |
| 12:36.18 | SC-phone | ty birdie.... i'm just so sad... I can't work, I can't email (except on my phone), I cannot bz |
| 12:36.44 | Birdie | maybe you can go to an internetplace for an hour to do your emailstuff |
| 12:36.48 | Birdie | of course thats not a solution for bz:( |
| 12:37.57 | SC-phone | not a solution for work either :( |
| 12:39.09 | SC-phone | sigh :( |
| 12:39.31 | kierra | hi |
| 12:39.36 | Birdie | i am sorry |
| 12:39.43 | Birdie | you lost everything from work?:( |
| 12:40.22 | SC-phone | no, but computer has special vpn to access work |
| 12:40.29 | SC-phone | no computer no work |
| 12:41.14 | Birdie | oi |
| 12:41.18 | Birdie | thats not good:( |
| 12:41.37 | SC-phone | no :( |
| 12:45.00 | SC-phone | kierra: hi :( |
| 12:46.24 | kierra | hello :( |
| 12:46.46 | kierra | i hardly ever get to play....super :( |
| 12:47.35 | kierra | why? |
| 12:48.01 | kierra | you had your laptop w/you |
| 12:48.16 | SC-phone | hard to type it all here again, but computer died |
| 12:48.42 | kierra | how long ru in hawaii |
| 12:49.21 | SC-phone | me til 15 & hubby til 17 |
| 12:49.49 | kierra | your hotel doesnt have a comp room? |
| 12:50.18 | SC-phone | plus another few weeks to have it fixed... :( |
| 12:50.23 | kierra | i stayed in one once that had an internet room in the lobby all set up w/ comp, hispeed int |
| 12:50.32 | kierra | yikes |
| 12:50.41 | SC-phone | not hotel - a rental house |
| 12:50.54 | kierra | last april, L put all of us on a bz fast |
| 12:51.02 | kierra | boy that was tough |
| 12:51.09 | kierra | for a month |
| 12:51.25 | kierra | thats when ME hit the fan and bz fell apart temp |
| 12:51.34 | kierra | good old db |
| 12:51.59 | SC-phone | aua... I self-fasted for August this yr |
| 12:52.16 | SC-phone | (bz-fast that is) |
| 12:52.23 | kierra | right |
| 12:52.28 | kierra | good for you |
| 12:53.16 | SC-phone | rt, /me is v v frustrated & sad |
| 12:53.30 | SC-phone | I have a load of work & no way to do it |
| 12:53.42 | kierra | oh boy |
| 12:55.27 | SC-phone | it sucks cuz now I have nothing to do in the pm when hubby goes to work here... and I hate tv |
| 12:56.01 | kierra | sheesh |
| 12:56.07 | kierra | now what? |
| 12:56.33 | SC-phone | I have no idea :( |
| 12:56.56 | kierra | bummer, sc |
| 12:57.08 | SC-phone | I talked to toki last nite for over an hr as we tried to diagnose the problem |
| 12:57.14 | kierra | read through the Bible in 4 days? |
| 12:57.20 | kierra | ah |
| 12:57.23 | kierra | and? |
| 12:58.13 | SC-phone | dunno :( cd be problem w processor or memory or hd or windows or combination |
| 12:58.48 | kierra | my goodness |
| 12:58.59 | kierra | does hubby know comp? |
| 12:59.28 | SC-phone | some..but lappys can b weir |
| 12:59.28 | SC-phone | d |
| 13:00.15 | kierra | Is Someone trying to get your attn?? |
| 13:00.28 | SC-phone | :( |
| 13:00.49 | kierra | sounds like maybe? |
| 13:02.22 | SC-phone | cd be I guess |
| 13:02.49 | SC-phone | sigh |
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| 13:50.30 | catay | lol |
| 13:50.41 | catay | this topic is getting to much for me :P |
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| 14:28.21 | kierra | catay!!!!!!! |
| 14:28.31 | kierra | admirarch :) |
| 14:29.08 | kierra | ~dub |
| 14:29.33 | kierra | ~dub59998 |
| 14:29.44 | kierra | ~gu5154 |
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| 14:37.38 | kierra | adimirarch!!!!! |
| 15:30.44 | Admirarc1 | Chalk up another 10-1 loss on the board |
| 15:47.25 | catay | lol |
| 15:48.22 | catay | hi admir btw :) |
| 15:49.28 | Admirarch | Hi |
| 15:51.16 | catay | against who did you played ? |
| 15:55.03 | Admirarch | HoW |
| 15:55.23 | Admirarch | Me, lala and Karlik vs GENZO, yummy and Ares |
| 16:24.01 | catay | it's really strange |
| 16:24.21 | catay | i don't have the feeling that they are individualy more skilled |
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| 16:42.56 | Thonolan | evening |
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| 17:07.43 | Admirarch | catay: Ares is a bit better than me, DB about the same. GENZO is probably a bit better than you right now. |
| 17:09.06 | Admirarch | Yummy, I don't really know. He was better than me back when we were both in NP but that was ages ago |
| 17:09.31 | Birdie | yummy is good, very good |
| 17:09.45 | Thonolan | would be interesting to see where iam in the row ;) |
| 17:09.45 | Birdie | much better than genzo |
| 17:09.55 | Birdie | yummy is better in skill than db i think |
| 17:10.00 | Birdie | maybe not in teamplay |
| 17:10.44 | Admirarch | I'm sure plenty of people would disagree with me in putting Ares above DB |
| 17:13.31 | Admirarch | Thonolan: Right at the top :) |
| 17:14.05 | Admirarch | We know that you're the best bzflag player ever but you're so nice you take it easy on us all |
| 17:14.10 | Thonolan | rofl |
| 17:14.12 | Birdie | lol |
| 17:14.17 | Birdie | admi finally found it out |
| 17:14.30 | Thonolan | well what will you drink ? .) |
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| 17:31.49 | kierra | catay!!!!! |
| 17:34.06 | Admirarch | kierra!!! |
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| 17:35.18 | kierra | hello admirarch!!!!!! |
| 17:43.10 | kierra | ~dub |
| 17:43.24 | kierra | ok |
| 18:22.43 | catay | hey hey |
| 18:23.25 | Thonolan | hey |
| 18:24.49 | catay | Thonolan !!! |
| 18:25.04 | Thonolan | :) |
| 18:25.10 | Thonolan | catty:) |
| 18:26.32 | Birdie | re catay |
| 18:27.07 | kierra_away | catay, read your bzmail |
| 18:27.49 | kierra_away | :) |
| 18:30.45 | catay | i already did :p |
| 18:46.54 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 11 16:40 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:10, Bz Incorporated:1 |
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| 18:50.50 | catay | kierra_away: read you bzmail :p |
| 18:51.12 | catay | and hi Thonolan |
| 18:53.29 | ThatSmell | Hello, all :-) |
| 18:55.12 | catay | uff |
| 18:55.21 | catay | not hi thonolan , hi ThatSmell i mean :p |
| 18:55.26 | catay | i already said hi to Thonolan :p |
| 18:55.34 | ThatSmell | But he is here too... apparently. |
| 18:55.39 | catay | yes |
| 18:55.54 | catay | but it's the nick completion that play tricks on me :p |
| 18:56.07 | ThatSmell | So, what is e1 up to? |
| 18:56.30 | catay | i'm gonna have a look at dub |
| 18:56.55 | ThatSmell | G's there. i m @ ur svr now. |
| 18:57.25 | ThatSmell | n now i m @ dub pub |
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| 19:11.38 | Birdie | hey sc phone! |
| 19:11.58 | SC-phone | hi birdie |
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| 19:29.05 | SC-phone | catay: come to proxs |
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| 20:27.17 | Thonolan | admir ? |
| 20:27.28 | Thonolan | !wake up admirarch |
| 20:27.48 | Thonolan | ~wake up admirarch |
| 20:27.49 | purl | up admirarch: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 20:47.07 | kierra | howdy |
| 20:47.24 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 10 22:29 => MTC:10, Jr. DUB:1 |
| 20:48.04 | Birdie | ciao |
| 20:48.14 | kierra | pajarito |
| 20:48.20 | Birdie | kierrolito |
| 20:48.41 | kierra | :) |
| 20:48.48 | kierra | i like that |
| 20:49.24 | kierra | ~dub |
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| 20:49.45 | kierra | eek, hide |
| 20:49.52 | kierra | ~dub59998 |
| 20:49.54 | TheRedBaron | ~shellshock |
| 20:50.12 | kierra | ~dub59999 |
| 20:50.27 | kierra | ~tlz59999 |
| 21:07.34 | Thonolan | good nite |
| 21:07.42 | kierra | g'nite di |
| 21:07.45 | TheRedBaron | night thono |
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| 21:09.31 | kierra | smellie!!!! |
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| 21:17.36 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 11 21:07 => [HoW] Hell On Wheels:8, Bz Incorporated:3 |
| 21:17.54 | kierra | why do you guys match how? |
| 21:19.42 | TheRedBaron | because we will beat them soon :) |
| 21:19.58 | ThatSmell | y? Heh... y not I guess. We want matches and so do they - and we are overflowing with hope that we are the ones that will stop their streak. |
| 21:20.15 | kierra | i hate giving HoW points |
| 21:20.19 | TheRedBaron | thatSmell how does monday sound? |
| 21:20.27 | TheRedBaron | for stopping their streak? |
| 21:20.28 | ThatSmell | They're going to get them - and one day they won't. |
| 21:20.47 | ThatSmell | Heh. That sounds like tomorrow. Today always sounds better... |
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| 21:20.59 | ThatSmell | But, i need to get another machine. this mac is painful. |
| 21:22.34 | ThatSmell | I may confiscate my wife's PC and put linux on it. |
| 21:22.43 | ThatSmell | Ack! I thought you wanted to win! |
| 21:22.58 | TheRedBaron | windows works for me :) |
| 21:23.12 | ThatSmell | for me... not. |
| 21:23.27 | TheRedBaron | If ares or carn doesn't play, we stand an excellent chance of winning. if its a 3vs3 or 4vs4 |
| 21:23.29 | ThatSmell | but installing linux is a non-issue. getting a box is. |
| 21:23.50 | TheRedBaron | I hate macs |
| 21:23.51 | ThatSmell | after seeing thono smoke carny plenty this time, I'm not so sure Carny's an issue. |
| 21:24.04 | ThatSmell | Ah. It's quite possible sir, that they feel the same of you :-) |
| 21:24.18 | TheRedBaron | ah, don't flatter me |
| 21:24.27 | ThatSmell | Heh. |
| 21:24.31 | ThatSmell | As you wish. |
| 21:24.43 | TheRedBaron | I just know that carny and Ares will single me out on the battlefield |
| 21:24.45 | ThatSmell | But in either case, I'm not really afraid of carny or ares - or db for that matter. |
| 21:24.59 | ThatSmell | and so then we single them out :-) |
| 21:25.01 | TheRedBaron | I"m not afraid of any HoWains... But I know which ones are easier to kill :) |
| 21:25.10 | TheRedBaron | and which ones aren't |
| 21:25.46 | TheRedBaron | you said the key word :) |
| 21:25.48 | TheRedBaron | WE |
| 21:25.53 | TheRedBaron | single them out |
| 21:26.09 | TheRedBaron | It has to be a process of "WE" which is why I like 3vs3 and 4vs4 :) |
| 21:26.28 | ThatSmell | true. our odds are better against how at 3 or 4 matches. |
| 21:26.40 | ThatSmell | *3v & 4v |
| 21:27.30 | ThatSmell | I'm not convinced that how has their mid and large sized team dynamics completely settled. |
| 21:27.39 | catay | hey ThatSmell ! |
| 21:27.41 | catay | argh |
| 21:27.43 | TheRedBaron | they don't |
| 21:27.46 | catay | heya TheRedBaron ! |
| 21:27.51 | TheRedBaron | and Heya Catay ! |
| 21:27.52 | ThatSmell | and having you on the field gives quite a bit of motivational support, leadership and of course skill. |
| 21:28.08 | ThatSmell | argh? |
| 21:28.25 | TheRedBaron | we could do a 5vs5? |
| 21:28.48 | ThatSmell | I just wonder what excuses db would come up with with you able to match. |
| 21:29.02 | ThatSmell | he had a good host of them when he saw Mikkel ready with mtc. |
| 21:29.51 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: I've played vs him in matches, and won some |
| 21:29.56 | TheRedBaron | with bz-inc |
| 21:30.10 | ThatSmell | but i think he's trying to hang on to his little streak. |
| 21:30.23 | TheRedBaron | the most notable one in mind, is a 4vs4, with admirarch, catay and thono |
| 21:30.26 | ThatSmell | so he will have excuses when there's a superior player on the field. |
| 21:30.27 | kierra | catay !!! :) |
| 21:30.45 | ThatSmell | well... yes - the fantastic four :-) |
| 21:30.51 | TheRedBaron | thatsmell he will have excuses after the match, and demands for a rematch :) |
| 21:31.02 | catay | kierra !!! :) |
| 21:31.06 | kierra | :) |
| 21:31.24 | catay | i think genzo & ares are beatable |
| 21:31.27 | catay | or genzo & zer0 |
| 21:31.33 | ThatSmell | yes. well. once he's lost, his streak's over. |
| 21:31.45 | ThatSmell | or any howian and any other howian. |
| 21:31.55 | ThatSmell | it's just who beats them is the question. they are always beatable. |
| 21:32.07 | catay | we start mostly quite good |
| 21:32.12 | catay | but we don't keep it up |
| 21:32.23 | TheRedBaron | catay: yup |
| 21:32.34 | TheRedBaron | happened that 1 particular match. when I was lagging :( |
| 21:32.36 | ThatSmell | yah. we tend to fall apart in the middle - and then start regrouping well near the end when it's too late. |
| 21:33.04 | catay | it's also psychological |
| 21:33.13 | TheRedBaron | I suspect we start playing def to early |
| 21:33.17 | catay | !dict psychological |
| 21:33.19 | TheRedBaron | or not enough... not sure |
| 21:33.23 | ThatSmell | Heh. well... it's all psych anyhow. |
| 21:33.28 | catay | ~spell psychological |
| 21:33.28 | ThatSmell | def? |
| 21:33.29 | TheRedBaron | def-defense |
| 21:33.35 | catay | yay |
| 21:33.37 | ThatSmell | oh. yah. |
| 21:33.45 | ThatSmell | i noted a scramble today to save the flag. |
| 21:33.49 | ThatSmell | it cost some caps. |
| 21:33.58 | TheRedBaron | I remember a time... |
| 21:34.06 | TheRedBaron | a 2vs2 thono and I |
| 21:34.07 | catay | and stupid tk :p |
| 21:34.19 | TheRedBaron | I held up both howians, and thono made a home run. |
| 21:34.20 | catay | lol i do every match some stupid tk on crucial moments |
| 21:34.44 | ThatSmell | ah. same here. |
| 21:35.02 | ThatSmell | heh... as a physics prof told me once about stupid mistakes, "just don't do it". |
| 21:35.06 | ThatSmell | Gee... thanks. |
| 21:35.41 | ThatSmell | what we need is a practice match with TRB on field - and then a critique afterwards. |
| 21:35.58 | TheRedBaron | Thatsmell: remember that match we played with HoW |
| 21:36.08 | ThatSmell | yes. for the most part :-) |
| 21:36.11 | TheRedBaron | The most notable critique that comes to mind... |
| 21:36.33 | TheRedBaron | is I was in a duel, with ares and genzo, You were dueling with me, and our flag was going down field |
| 21:36.52 | ThatSmell | yah. hard to see in a match. |
| 21:37.03 | ThatSmell | always keep the position of your flag in mind. i remember that. |
| 21:37.18 | TheRedBaron | You left the duel, and went to save the flag, I killed genzo, but with Are's playing style, I couldn't kill him, I needed you to help, but you didn't see that |
| 21:37.33 | TheRedBaron | Ares killed me, and ganged up with another HoW and eliminated you. |
| 21:37.47 | ThatSmell | but when to and when to not. |
| 21:37.49 | TheRedBaron | What would have been key there... would have been to insure My survival |
| 21:37.57 | TheRedBaron | Not just because I'm TrB |
| 21:38.04 | ThatSmell | heh. yah |
| 21:38.14 | TheRedBaron | I would expect you to do that with any of your other teamates |
| 21:38.27 | TheRedBaron | make sure your teamates survive, and the both of you can take out the flag carrier |
| 21:38.51 | ThatSmell | yep |
| 21:38.57 | TheRedBaron | to me, thats teamwork. |
| 21:39.11 | TheRedBaron | now If I was defending the flag, and holding up 2 howians. don't save me, go for their flag |
| 21:39.19 | TheRedBaron | Provided our flag was in the corner |
| 21:39.35 | ThatSmell | In the corner... but when it's past the 50yd line... i get a bit itchy. |
| 21:39.43 | TheRedBaron | there was a time, when I had all 4 howians after our flag. That is a perfect opportunity to get theirs |
| 21:39.59 | TheRedBaron | but instead all of BZI came to help, but not at the same time. |
| 21:40.12 | ThatSmell | hmmm... :-) |
| 21:40.15 | TheRedBaron | so 4 how, took out trb, then 3 how took out admirar... etc etc |
| 21:40.28 | ThatSmell | Of course. |
| 21:40.47 | ThatSmell | This is why I view HoW a bit like pack animals. |
| 21:40.53 | TheRedBaron | When I Played for "The Barons" our tactic was opponent flag first, then ours |
| 21:41.06 | TheRedBaron | I think I made a mistake when trying to apply that theory to BZI. |
| 21:41.18 | ThatSmell | Agreed. I tried to get pbx to think that way for a long while. but had to give in. |
| 21:41.19 | TheRedBaron | "The Barons" had a much different flag and teamply dynamics |
| 21:41.25 | TheRedBaron | *teamplay |
| 21:41.42 | TheRedBaron | I couldn't expect from bzi, what I had come to expect from rb2 and skit |
| 21:42.01 | ThatSmell | Well.. you could. But you'd have a long wait. |
| 21:42.04 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 21:42.13 | TheRedBaron | and one frustrated baron :) |
| 21:42.22 | ThatSmell | oh - yah. that too. |
| 21:42.29 | TheRedBaron | but I've slowly learned what my team is capable of... |
| 21:42.36 | TheRedBaron | and those capabilities are growing! |
| 21:43.57 | ThatSmell | What interests me is what separates teams in skill. |
| 21:44.30 | TheRedBaron | hm? |
| 21:45.15 | ThatSmell | well.. you have bzi. right. you, adm, thono, catay - great players. i beleive actually well team minded. |
| 21:45.36 | ThatSmell | yet, no operable chance currently against dub, mtc or how. |
| 21:45.44 | ThatSmell | how confuses me all around. |
| 21:46.00 | ThatSmell | if i were in how i'd be terrified. |
| 21:46.18 | ThatSmell | there's no way i can see them being a team at heart. just as a machine - all the parts working together. |
| 21:46.47 | ThatSmell | dub and mtc are different though. |
| 21:47.10 | ThatSmell | anyhow. thinking and not too usefully at the moment. |
| 21:48.04 | TheRedBaron | hmm large fuel blast in london..... Hold On Admirarch, i'm bringing my Marshmellows ;) |
| 21:48.24 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... different from yesterdays explosions? |
| 21:48.38 | ThatSmell | If so, then i'd be less believing it wasn't planned. |
| 21:48.53 | TheRedBaron | HoW, MTC, and Dub, all have alot of league experience |
| 21:49.36 | ThatSmell | So, then how do you defeat that? You will never have the same amount as a team as they do at the same time :-) |
| 21:50.14 | TheRedBaron | you'd be amazed ThatSmell: i've played in the league for quite a while now... But for all my playing... I still cannot write down, in a book, a solid "Field tactic's manual for Bzflag CTF" |
| 21:50.21 | TheRedBaron | Yet I still know what needs to be done... |
| 21:51.01 | ThatSmell | Hmm... but it's a game. :-) |
| 21:51.07 | ThatSmell | *phone* |
| 21:51.09 | TheRedBaron | as in? |
| 21:51.17 | TheRedBaron | what do you mean by "its a game" |
| 21:54.01 | ThatSmell | Sry: phone convo w/ wife about what to get for mom for xmas. i so love xmas. |
| 21:54.14 | TheRedBaron | lol np i understand phone ;) |
| 21:54.51 | ThatSmell | Anyhow, as in - if you make it too scientific then it loses a bit of the fun in the game. |
| 21:55.15 | ThatSmell | The manual - as it were - needs to be helpful but vague. |
| 21:55.29 | ThatSmell | Unless of course it's not published for the general consumption :-) |
| 21:55.52 | ThatSmell | I've thought of it myself in terms of small field bz combat. |
| 21:55.58 | TheRedBaron | true |
| 21:56.06 | ThatSmell | Trying to cull some tidbits from your namesake. |
| 21:56.25 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 21:56.48 | ThatSmell | one being, never turn your back on your opponent. |
| 21:57.04 | ThatSmell | another being, try to get behind your opponent. |
| 21:57.06 | ThatSmell | and so on. |
| 21:57.25 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: I have a really useful trick for getting behind your opponent ;) |
| 21:57.38 | Birdie | go through them |
| 21:57.45 | ThatSmell | But for the sake of bzi, if you have ideas for tactics, you should write them down and distribute them to the team. |
| 21:58.10 | Birdie | you mostly cant teach tactics, its more experience from matches |
| 21:58.27 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: actually I am in the progress compiling the "tactics" |
| 21:58.37 | TheRedBaron | i'm tracking myself over the multiple forums I visit |
| 21:58.48 | ThatSmell | Ah. But it's like you can't teach improvisation to a jazz guitarist - yet you can give him the tools to improvise upon. |
| 21:58.57 | TheRedBaron | and taking what i've written about tactics and moves... and trying to compile them |
| 21:59.09 | TheRedBaron | about dodging, team play. etc etc |
| 21:59.16 | TheRedBaron | but about getting behind your opponent |
| 21:59.27 | ThatSmell | that's helpful. But also sitting down and just jotting down a stack... |
| 22:00.14 | ThatSmell | ... |
| 22:00.53 | TheRedBaron | ok. this move works best when you are "dancing"with another tank |
| 22:00.58 | TheRedBaron | mostly going around in circles... |
| 22:01.21 | Admirarch | That's something everybody works out for themselves |
| 22:01.40 | TheRedBaron | and i'm going to have a heck of a time trying to explain what I see and react to |
| 22:01.41 | Admirarch | The hardest part is working up an understanding of how 2v2 combat works |
| 22:01.49 | TheRedBaron | admirarch is right. |
| 22:01.58 | ThatSmell | Well, then perhaps we should take a stab at it. |
| 22:02.03 | TheRedBaron | which is why i like 3vs3 better |
| 22:02.08 | ThatSmell | Heh. |
| 22:02.19 | ThatSmell | 2v2 is the most common form of combat in bzflag. |
| 22:02.23 | TheRedBaron | yup |
| 22:02.31 | ThatSmell | it cannot be avoided so must be taken on head first. |
| 22:02.34 | ThatSmell | and head on. |
| 22:02.37 | TheRedBaron | exactly |
| 22:02.45 | TheRedBaron | but 2vs2 requires alot of 1vs1 skill |
| 22:03.00 | TheRedBaron | and if you ask me, 1vs1 requires shot holding tactics... which I'm not good at. |
| 22:03.33 | ThatSmell | so the "manual" starts with 1v1 tactics. |
| 22:03.55 | ThatSmell | dodging, shooting, holding shots, double shots. rico... yadda yadda. |
| 22:04.16 | ThatSmell | dodging being the most important skill i think. |
| 22:04.32 | TheRedBaron | ok there are 2 types of dodging |
| 22:04.37 | TheRedBaron | 1 dodging what you see |
| 22:04.42 | ThatSmell | Then you build 2v2 from that and 3v3. 4v4 is really an extension to 3v3. |
| 22:04.44 | TheRedBaron | (this is for 1vs1) |
| 22:04.53 | TheRedBaron | 2 dodging what you know is coming |
| 22:04.55 | Admirarch | dodging is 90% the art of not being where your opponent is going to shoot |
| 22:05.16 | TheRedBaron | Admirarch: that involves knowing where your opponent is goign to shoot |
| 22:05.24 | TheRedBaron | which is why I say bzflag is a mental game |
| 22:05.37 | Admirarch | Totally agree |
| 22:05.45 | TheRedBaron | dodging what you see, is not effective |
| 22:06.05 | Admirarch | Far better your opponent never gets in the position to fire that shot |
| 22:06.05 | TheRedBaron | when I learned to "Fake out" my opponent, I saw huge increase of my survival |
| 22:06.17 | TheRedBaron | Which is why one would use shot holding technique |
| 22:06.19 | ThatSmell | so you go where his barrel has already been before. |
| 22:06.35 | Admirarch | Limit his options, especially note which ricos are available and expect him to use them |
| 22:06.42 | TheRedBaron | Thatsmell: no. for me, it involves coaxing the bullet out of his barrel |
| 22:06.51 | TheRedBaron | and unloading him, then turning to finish him off |
| 22:07.09 | TheRedBaron | classic trick, is to pretend you are going to back up and face him |
| 22:07.28 | TheRedBaron | usually they will shoot at the rear of your tank. |
| 22:07.48 | Admirarch | But a good player can hold you pretty much indefinitely with his tow shots |
| 22:08.09 | Admirarch | If you've got into that position you deserve to die, it's his mistake if he fails to do the job |
| 22:08.10 | TheRedBaron | admirarch: yes, I hate shot holder's, ares has adopted that style against me |
| 22:08.40 | TheRedBaron | so in a 1vs1, avoid at all cost, the opponent getting close to you? |
| 22:08.42 | Admirarch | (I do of course mean suitably close up |
| 22:08.53 | Admirarch | No, get him in that position |
| 22:09.21 | TheRedBaron | ~pastebin |
| 22:09.22 | purl | methinks pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ |
| 22:09.47 | Admirarch | I love forcing my opponent side on and then killing him at my leisure up close |
| 22:10.25 | Admirarch | It just means I have to be damn good at working out where his ricos are going |
| 22:10.32 | TheRedBaron | yes |
| 22:11.05 | TheRedBaron | here is what I advised sportchick |
| 22:11.06 | TheRedBaron | http://pastebin.com/460098 |
| 22:11.26 | TheRedBaron | mind you, I'm not the final authority on this, Admirarch has raised some excellent tactics and points |
| 22:11.44 | TheRedBaron | and he's good on the battlefield |
| 22:11.49 | Admirarch | It's all a matter of finding what works for you |
| 22:12.13 | TheRedBaron | my style, suites a 3vs3 or more |
| 22:12.18 | TheRedBaron | if you have no jumping |
| 22:12.32 | TheRedBaron | I could expound on GU tactics. (3shot jumping) but i won't ;) |
| 22:12.56 | Admirarch | I can't jump, and you can see why from how I play |
| 22:13.04 | Admirarch | Same with any more than two shots |
| 22:13.16 | Admirarch | No way I'm getting close enough to do the business |
| 22:13.25 | ThatSmell | i think we should focus on one game style first. primarily duc. |
| 22:13.36 | Admirarch | Now give me a one shot league and we'll see who cleans up |
| 22:13.53 | TheRedBaron | admirarch cleans up :) |
| 22:14.05 | TheRedBaron | Thatsmell: yes we will stick to ducati. |
| 22:14.07 | Admirarch | ThatSmell: I advise a casual session on a match server, it's easier to pick out things as they come up |
| 22:14.18 | TheRedBaron | and Teamspeak :) |
| 22:14.22 | Admirarch | Yes |
| 22:14.27 | TheRedBaron | its much to hard to explain what I see, by typing |
| 22:14.32 | Admirarch | TheRedBaron: Are you playing this evening |
| 22:14.32 | ThatSmell | teamspeak at this point's a non-option for me. |
| 22:14.42 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: yes, I understand |
| 22:14.59 | TheRedBaron | but when it does become an option, go for it :) |
| 22:15.08 | ThatSmell | yes. of course. |
| 22:15.12 | TheRedBaron | Admirarch: Possibly, don't know |
| 22:15.32 | Admirarch | ThatSmell: I'm offering, if you want some of my take on things |
| 22:15.35 | TheRedBaron | some times dad shuts down the proxy on sunday nights and we play :) |
| 22:15.50 | ThatSmell | So, there also needs to be a section on communication then. |
| 22:16.08 | Admirarch | Option 1: Don't need it |
| 22:16.14 | ThatSmell | Offering? |
| 22:16.29 | Admirarch | ThatSmell: Shooting/comment session at some point this evening |
| 22:16.30 | TheRedBaron | Admirarch: by all means, this is a collaborative effort |
| 22:16.33 | ThatSmell | Ah. I'm capturin all of this and I pasted in the pastebin stuff too. |
| 22:16.46 | ThatSmell | Sounds good. What's "this evening" to you tho? |
| 22:16.59 | Admirarch | Any time in the next 5 hours |
| 22:17.27 | ThatSmell | Well, my thought at this point is to get as much as I can, revise it, and then send it back to you all for comment. |
| 22:17.28 | Admirarch | Probably only four and a bit, realistically |
| 22:17.50 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: hold on, I"ve got a section on teamplay :) |
| 22:18.21 | ThatSmell | Well... Tis 2:30 here now. I need to get together wth the wife, shop - you know. the christmas cheer thing... and hopefully get back in that time :-) |
| 22:18.43 | ThatSmell | Then, I'd like to see it, or get it or somehow get my filthy hands on it. |
| 22:19.11 | ThatSmell | I expect if I make my way out now, perhaps three hours from now is not an issue. Most stuff should be closed here near that time. |
| 22:19.37 | Admirarch | Can we venture into the great "Where to put the flag" debate at some point? |
| 22:20.15 | ThatSmell | We can venture where ever your heart's content lies. |
| 22:20.20 | Admirarch | (I have pet theories) |
| 22:20.34 | ThatSmell | I think the exercise of having all teamies work on this manual may help us more. |
| 22:20.39 | TheRedBaron | Admirarch: yes go for it! |
| 22:21.04 | ThatSmell | The manual's easier than conversations too - it can be pieced together in e-mail as well. |
| 22:21.08 | TheRedBaron | ThatSmell: http://www.gamesunited.de/ib/index.php?showtopic=11577&st=0&#entry255409 |
| 22:21.39 | TheRedBaron | Admirarch: where do you think the flag should be put? |
| 22:21.46 | Admirarch | Basically, it suits the team with better individuals to have the flags in diagonally opposite corners and the team with a better understanding to have them on the same side |
| 22:21.59 | TheRedBaron | hmm |
| 22:22.05 | TheRedBaron | keep going |
| 22:22.44 | Admirarch | I think it's especially significant when one team has a player who is significantly stronger than the others |
| 22:22.54 | Admirarch | In that this team always wants to keep them diagonal |
| 22:22.59 | ThatSmell | I have one observation about flag placement as well. |
| 22:23.29 | ThatSmell | Though i'd like to see all of adm's thoughts on it first. |
| 22:23.34 | TheRedBaron | yes same here |
| 22:23.46 | Admirarch | Also there's too much of a tendency to shove the flag in corners with buildings when often open corners are much easier to protect |
| 22:24.38 | Admirarch | I'm running out of steam |
| 22:24.58 | ThatSmell | nada problemo hombre :-) |
| 22:25.31 | TheRedBaron | rb2 likes this theory: he puts the flag on the same side |
| 22:25.44 | TheRedBaron | so he can guard it, but still provide offensive support to the flag runner |
| 22:25.52 | Admirarch | I think there's an argument in that |
| 22:26.09 | TheRedBaron | I think we should try it |
| 22:26.14 | Admirarch | Mainly because if you always do it you're likely to be better at it than your opponents |
| 22:26.48 | TheRedBaron | Me, when its a 3vs3 or 4vs4, I like the idea, of 1 teamate running the flag, while the others battle in the center ground, and kill anything that moves |
| 22:26.55 | TheRedBaron | simply because I feel, I"m good at that |
| 22:27.02 | TheRedBaron | being able to take on multiple targets |
| 22:27.21 | Admirarch | Also, this almost goes without saying. But never, ever self kill after placing your flag on the same side as the opponents |
| 22:28.15 | TheRedBaron | yes yes. that is true |
| 22:28.34 | ThatSmell | *phone* |
| 22:28.53 | TheRedBaron | ~lart thatsmell |
| 22:28.54 | Admirarch | I only mention it because it was one of the things I pointed out to Karlik when I was watching her match with catay |
| 22:29.32 | ThatSmell | if only i had $200 million to sue for! |
| 22:29.52 | ThatSmell | Here's my 2bits on flag placement. |
| 22:30.02 | ThatSmell | You need to mix it up once in a while. |
| 22:30.26 | ThatSmell | You will invariably develop game tactics to acquire the flag on one corner or the other. |
| 22:30.50 | ThatSmell | after several trips to the same corner the opposition will have confusion when the flag's on the other side all of a sudden. |
| 22:31.01 | ThatSmell | I've watched this happen several times with how, us and others. |
| 22:32.09 | ThatSmell | Of course... if you are currently well ahead there's not good reason to force a change on thier part. |
| 22:32.17 | ThatSmell | *their* |
| 22:32.58 | Admirarch | (On a side note I think I know what's most wrong with my playing at the moment, I'm spending too much time worrying about how my mates are struggling with people "better" than them and losing the drive I used to have going for the flag) |
| 22:33.24 | ThatSmell | there has to be relentless pursuit of the enemy's flag. this is a given. |
| 22:33.43 | Admirarch | There has to be a degree of restraint |
| 22:33.52 | TheRedBaron | A balance |
| 22:34.15 | ThatSmell | yes - but it should a resolve in your mind that the end goal is to cap. |
| 22:34.19 | Admirarch | Never leave your mate in a 1v2 where his rapid death will leave you in an untenable position |
| 22:34.20 | TheRedBaron | correct |
| 22:34.52 | TheRedBaron | Admirarch just summed, what I was first talking to you about thatsmell, that scenerio in the how match |
| 22:34.53 | Admirarch | (I'm back on 2v2 tactics, because that's what I know best) |
| 22:35.27 | ThatSmell | Hmmm... my thinking is not that complex. I have far too little experience at this time :-) |
| 22:35.54 | Admirarch | In a 1v2 surviving for a bit is an achievement, killing one enemy impressive and killing both a minor miracle |
| 22:36.24 | TheRedBaron | true. although I feel quite capable of at least killing 1 out of the 2 |
| 22:36.32 | TheRedBaron | I don't want to be bragging... |
| 22:36.39 | Admirarch | TrB: Equally they should feel capable of not dying |
| 22:37.28 | Admirarch | I'll be annoyed if I fail to kill when I'm the one and annoyed if I'm one of the two and die |
| 22:37.34 | TheRedBaron | true, But I find that in a 2vs1, there is always 1 of the 2, that is waiting for that precise moment, to take you out. To me, he is the easiest to kill |
| 22:37.53 | Admirarch | Yes, and mikkel is the master of this |
| 22:38.09 | ThatSmell | What is not a master of? |
| 22:38.19 | Admirarch | Witty retorts |
| 22:38.28 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 22:39.02 | ThatSmell | heh. I've yet to see him lose due to that personal failure. |
| 22:39.20 | TheRedBaron | its invariably, the tank I first engaged that kills me when its a 2vs1 |
| 22:40.10 | Admirarch | One thing I think we haven't got down yet is picking of an enemy entangled with an opponent reliably |
| 22:40.21 | TheRedBaron | but the 2nd one who wants the kill, is the one I either suicide against, or kill. |
| 22:40.25 | Admirarch | It's the hallmark of an excellent understanding |
| 22:40.29 | ThatSmell | There needs also to be a technical section: on config settings. Yah - we should all have this down already. But it should be present as a reference. |
| 22:41.02 | Admirarch | (One of opponent and enemy should have been teammate) |
| 22:41.38 | ThatSmell | Yes. I noticed that. :-) |
| 22:42.09 | Admirarch | (Another incidental remark: tried playing with "ME", hated it, switched back to large mouse box) |
| 22:42.22 | TheRedBaron | admirarch: define "Me" |
| 22:42.26 | ThatSmell | That's the never ending debate. |
| 22:42.41 | ThatSmell | I didn't like it at first and eventually got used to it. |
| 22:42.47 | ThatSmell | But everything sucks on my mac. |
| 22:42.50 | Admirarch | TrB: General consensus is fast mouse and small mousebox, I put it in safety commas because I don't believe it exists |
| 22:43.22 | ThatSmell | Anyhow. I must go. I shall return here hopefully within three hours. |
| 22:43.28 | Admirarch | I just decided it runs contrary to the way I play the game, and I think the way I play is better than anybody elses way |
| 22:44.01 | ThatSmell | Please log the rest of this conversation if possible should you continue on tactics. |
| 22:44.33 | TheRedBaron | Thatsmell |
| 22:44.38 | TheRedBaron | ~logs |
| 22:44.39 | purl | apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly" |
| 22:44.54 | TheRedBaron | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bz-inc |
| 22:45.00 | TheRedBaron | you'll find the bz-inc logs |
| 22:45.07 | ThatSmell | ty |
| 22:45.10 | TheRedBaron | admirarch: here are my mouse settings http://images.unpatented.com/MouseE.jpg |
| 22:45.29 | Admirarch | NEWSFLASH: HoW matching MTC with Mikkel playing |
| 22:45.31 | Admirarch | MTC winning |
| 22:45.40 | TheRedBaron | using the driver that the manufactorer designed for my mouse. Not an "Enhancement" if you ask me |
| 22:46.08 | Admirarch | TrB: I deny the existence of ME, I think anybody who even mentions it is a blithering idiot |
| 22:46.55 | TheRedBaron | ~admirarch++ |
| 22:47.01 | ThatSmell | wow. 4:2 at this point |
| 22:47.12 | TheRedBaron | HoW cannot compete against mikkel. |
| 22:47.26 | Admirarch | Wrong |
| 22:47.35 | Admirarch | HoW cannot compete against Mikkel and Skit |
| 22:47.39 | TheRedBaron | ah. |
| 22:47.44 | TheRedBaron | thats who's playing? |
| 22:47.54 | TheRedBaron | If you ask me. I think skit is better than mikkel |
| 22:48.16 | TheRedBaron | who is playing for HoW? |
| 22:48.31 | Admirarch | Mikkel, skit and ant vs Carn, GENZO and Zer0 |
| 22:48.45 | Admirarch | Hardly HoW's strongest team |
| 22:48.57 | TheRedBaron | ah, my good friend ant... |
| 22:48.59 | ThatSmell | db had no hand in this. i guarantee the match would not have happened. |
| 22:49.14 | TheRedBaron | he would very very good, if college didn't take up so much of his time :) |
| 22:49.22 | Admirarch | He's going to be pissed |
| 22:49.41 | ThatSmell | well... it's not over yet. count not your chickens. |
| 22:49.41 | TheRedBaron | don't underestimate genzo |
| 22:49.47 | Admirarch | He's tough, though out of practice |
| 22:50.16 | Admirarch | Genzo has been known to collapse |
| 22:51.11 | ThatSmell | he does not focus at all times. |
| 22:51.20 | TheRedBaron | correct |
| 22:51.25 | Admirarch | He gets annoyed easily |
| 22:51.33 | Admirarch | People who get annoyed lose |
| 22:51.50 | ThatSmell | heh. really now. |
| 22:52.40 | Admirarch | (5-2) |
| 22:53.01 | ThatSmell | w/ 4:30 to go. possible comeback but unlikely at this point. |
| 22:53.36 | Admirarch | Damn, I wanted to break that winning streak |
| 22:53.45 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 22:54.05 | Admirarch | Now for once I'm not joking |
| 22:54.25 | ThatSmell | db just arrived. |
| 22:54.27 | Admirarch | Oh boy |
| 22:55.04 | TheRedBaron | somethings about to hit the fan :) |
| 22:55.27 | Admirarch | Nah, he's taking it fairly well |
| 22:56.22 | ThatSmell | past impossible now. |
| 22:57.17 | Admirarch | My best comeback ever was three captures in the last two minutes |
| 22:57.44 | ThatSmell | it takes 30s from one base to the other. |
| 22:58.09 | ThatSmell | so you just had time for one more :-) |
| 22:59.03 | Admirarch | The best part is that we were two caps down with those two minutes to go |
| 23:00.10 | TheRedBaron | yeah! |
| 23:00.28 | Admirarch | Damn, now I'm knee deep in nostalgia |
| 23:01.19 | Admirarch | (Like the first time NP ever beat the Zee's, it was me and Sat who was playing a blinder on a map with the most devilishly closed corner you can imagine, I think we eventually won it 3-2) |
| 23:03.16 | ThatSmell | Heh. that match kept me around. glad to see the beast's been bested. |
| 23:03.29 | ThatSmell | alright. l8r folks. bbia 3h |
| 23:07.33 | Admirarch | Now this is worth watching, Mikkel and skit vs Carn and DB |
| 23:08.59 | TheRedBaron | oh yea.. |
| 23:10.38 | TheRedBaron | ~proxs |
| 23:10.46 | TheRedBaron | ~dub |
| 23:10.50 | TheRedBaron | ~dub59998 |
| 23:12.22 | Admirarch | Oh, and mik seems to have found some invulnerability cheat, he's 10-0 |
| 23:13.44 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 23:13.50 | TheRedBaron | and skit? |
| 23:14.24 | TheRedBaron | ~catay |
| 23:14.25 | purl | He is the most friendly guy on BZ flag |
| 23:14.31 | TheRedBaron | ~bzi |
| 23:16.46 | Admirarch | skit isn't doing that great |
| 23:18.06 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 11 23:00 => MTC:5, [HoW] Hell On Wheels:3 || Dec 11 01:30 => MTC:10, Jr. DUB:1 || Dec 11 01:00 => MTC:6, The Barbarians:3 |
| 23:18.48 | TheRedBaron | ~proxs |
| 23:18.59 | TheRedBaron | why aren't they playing at proxs? |
| 23:21.08 | Admirarch | Because there's no acceleration limiter there |
| 23:21.33 | TheRedBaron | there isn't? are you sure? |
| 23:22.01 | Admirarch | I don't know actually |
| 23:22.02 | TheRedBaron | i've been wanting to ask orange. I'm pretty sure he told me he is running accleration limiter |
| 23:26.27 | TheRedBaron | But I can't remember |
| 23:26.32 | TheRedBaron | I was playing him late one night.... |
| 23:29.51 | *** mode/#bz-inc [+o Guu] by ChanServ |
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| 23:31.48 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
| 23:32.28 | Birdie | 4 3 |
| 23:32.28 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
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| 23:34.15 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
| 23:34.33 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
| 23:35.04 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
| 23:35.44 | SC-phone | aua |
| 23:35.44 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
| 23:36.55 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
| 23:37.12 | Birdie | over |
| 23:37.13 | Birdie | 4 3 |
| 23:37.19 | SC-phone | yay |
| 23:37.22 | kierra_away | sweet |
| 23:37.23 | SC-phone | tytytytytytyty |
| 23:37.37 | SC-phone | I was soooo worried when they tied |
| 23:40.14 | TheRedBaron | ~lart birdie :) |
| 23:40.21 | TheRedBaron | erk. |
| 23:40.27 | Birdie | au |
| 23:41.17 | Birdie | well its birdbedtime |
| 23:41.42 | Birdie | cu |
| 23:42.20 | catay | nite all! |
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| 23:44.07 | SC-phone | phone crashed |
| 23:44.11 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 23:44.15 | SC-phone | pfft |
| 23:44.16 | TheRedBaron | first your computer, now your phone? |
| 23:44.31 | SC-phone | so were all behaved after the match? |
| 23:44.43 | SC-phone | are they doing a third? |
| 23:45.31 | Admirarch | TrB: Sweating Bullets on dub public if you want to talk and can get there |
| 23:45.31 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
| 23:46.05 | TheRedBaron | Admirarch: egads, I can't get their! |
| 23:46.09 | TheRedBaron | ~lart proxy |
| 23:46.26 | TheRedBaron | ask him for me? see if he's interested in the league? |
| 23:47.46 | SC-phone | expanding bzi some more, trb? |
| 23:48.09 | TheRedBaron | 1 more player i've wanted since I started bzi :) |
| 23:48.15 | BZBot | New news from matches: Dec 11 23:39 => MTC:4, [HoW] Hell On Wheels:3 |
| 23:49.45 | SC-phone | ~bzi.catay |
| 23:49.57 | SC-phone | :( |
| 23:50.36 | Admirarch | We have a sale |
| 23:50.50 | Admirarch | I want my agents fee and an invite for the bullet man |
| 23:51.07 | TheRedBaron | alright |
| 23:51.10 | TheRedBaron | ~beet Admirarch |
| 23:53.03 | TheRedBaron | ~beer admirarch |
| 23:53.05 | purl | ACTION deftly decants a fine Guinness for admirarch |
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| 23:53.52 | SC-phone | ~dub |
| 23:54.24 | SC-phone | ~dub59999 |
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| 23:54.56 | SC-phone | ~dub59998 |
| 23:55.05 | moriah | ~dub |
| 23:55.16 | SC-phone | ~bzflist |
| 23:55.37 | TheRedBaron | buffaloebutt.com:5154 ? |
| 23:55.44 | SC-phone | heh |
| 23:55.48 | TheRedBaron | dang... |
| 23:56.14 | Admirarch | query? |
| 23:56.15 | SC-phone | ~gu5154 |
| 23:58.44 | SC-phone | rb2: hi |
| 23:59.15 | moriah | so sc, how goes it |
