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00:57.05BIYAgotcha
01:02.58me1we need more players, or less servers. server to player ratio is around 2:1
01:03.11JeffMbeen that way for years ;)
01:13.02Falseprophetanyone read CAD?
01:14.40blast007yeah
01:15.27FalseprophetMondays comic was assholish
01:15.37JeffMlanguage please
01:15.53Falseprophetok was without taste
01:16.01JeffMhis commic he can do what he wants
01:16.10Falseprophetyup
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01:16.26JeffMperhaps you would be better served by going to an actual CAD fourm ;)
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01:18.43CBGI like CAD a lot but rarely ever read it. xD Was usinone of their wallpapers on my mac for months - changed it yesterday as it happens (to http://tinyurl.com/yq3owp )
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02:26.59iMoronHello
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02:27.39iMoronI am looking for some little help
02:28.48iMoronhow do I start bzflag in windowed mode under linux
02:34.18blast007run this from a terminal: bzflag -window
02:34.26blast007or: bzflag -window geometry 640x480
02:34.36blast007sorry, -geometry
02:34.45blast007replacing the resolution there with the value you want
02:35.18blast007you might also want to disable mouse grabbing them as well, which is an option in the Options > Input Options menu   (called Confine Mouse)
02:35.24iMoronOk will try
02:35.37blast007depends if you want to be able to move the mouse outside the window, or if you want it to stay in there
02:37.45iMoronwell.. good on the window mode... now how about making it run at 1280 x 720
02:37.59iMoronI seem to be missing something in the argument
02:38.07iMoronfor ful screen
02:38.20iMoron*full
02:39.15iMoronthe thing is that if I start it normally it will not start
02:39.53iMoronbut at least now I can run in windowed mode
02:47.05iMoronmmm... hey... it crashes if I try to run it at 1280 x 720!!!
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10:46.24NightMareWerid stuff been going on on Vipers server.
10:46.29NightMareweird*
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11:04.41ruskieNightMare, like?
11:11.15NightMareWent into the server about 6 hours ago and 5 players had 450++ points
11:11.57NightMareThen TK kicking
11:12.05NightMareAll of which I know how to do
11:12.13NightMarebut strangely enough it wasn't me
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11:26.46ruskieyou are aware that a few players constantly get such high scores on viper?
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13:20.37Chiefhello?
13:22.59Chiefanyone?
13:25.41bradhi
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13:30.08Chiefoh hi im on the wiki srry
13:30.40Chiefis your usergroup still availible brad?
13:31.00bradusergroup???
13:31.07Chiefnevermind
13:33.06Chiefgah i'll be in-game im working ona  map soo i'll be busy brad bye
13:33.21bradbye
13:53.40Chiefk im back
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14:12.37donny_bakerone of the best things about IRC is that there is no need to announce when you arrive and leave
14:13.03donny_bakerjust asj your question or make your comment and t will be seen and commented on in time
14:13.08donny_bakerif anyone cares ;)
14:13.49donny_bakermany of us are "on" 24 hours a day, and we all read back :)
14:18.48donny_bakerbye ;)
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14:23.08bradlol, guess he didn't like your little speech there!
14:23.36brad"screw that i'll just quickly leave and ignore it"
14:23.46donny_bakerguess not, but he had to be set straight :)
14:24.11donny_bakerschool is definately out
14:24.21bradalready?
14:24.32donny_bakermy kids were done monday
14:24.48donny_bakerand that included 2 extra days for snow
14:25.18bradoh I see
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14:28.20me1donny_baker, i'm out in ~18 days
14:28.55me1some other people don't get out for a while either
14:29.21bradthinks kids should have no breaks :]
14:31.20donny_bakerof course my kids started August 16th
14:31.42donny_bakerwhich I think is a crime... we were still on vacation so they missed a few days
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22:47.17bigbadbuckohello
22:47.43Winnyhi
22:48.15bigbadbuckocan anyone here host?
22:48.37bradyou can :P
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22:48.44brad*points to wiki*
22:48.44bigbadbuckocan't get it working
22:48.50Winnythen try again
22:49.12bigbadbuckono, i can't figure out public.
22:49.28bigbadbuckohow does that work?
22:49.31bradforwarded the port(s) at the router?
22:49.40bigbadbuckodunno
22:49.45bradcheck portforward.com if you need help with that
22:50.02bigbadbuckohow does the public command WORK?
22:50.13bigbadbuckopublic *my ip*?
22:50.24brad-public "this is a lovely message"
22:50.34bigbadbuckooh...
22:50.35bigbadbuckonty
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22:50.35bigbadbuckoty
22:50.39bradno, that would be -publicaddr *your ip*:*port*
22:50.50bigbadbuckooh, i see ty i'll try that
22:50.56bigbadbuckobbl
22:51.25brad$10 says he'll be back!
22:51.33WinnyI raise you 10
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22:54.34bigbadbuckook so here's my conf file:
22:54.39bigbadbucko-world treesandriver.bzw
22:54.39bigbadbucko-j
22:54.39bigbadbucko-ms 10
22:54.39bigbadbucko-passwd (why would i tell the world my pass?)
22:54.39bigbadbucko-admsg "Welcome to Bucko's Trees and River server!"
22:54.39bigbadbucko-admsg "No cheating, disrespect to admins, swearing, or general meanness."
22:54.40bigbadbucko-admsg "Have fun!"
22:54.44bigbadbucko-public "Trees and River by Bucko: No SuperFlags"
22:54.46bigbadbucko-publicaddr 24.145.210.56:5154
22:54.49Winnydude use pastebin
22:54.53Winnydon't paste it here
22:54.53bigbadbuckohuh?
22:55.10bigbadbuckoi don't know many irc commands yet...
22:55.16Winnyit's not an IRC command
22:55.33bigbadbuckohow does it work, how do i use it, what does it do?
22:55.37Winnygoogle it
22:55.40bigbadbuckok
22:56.21Winnyput quotes around your world file, and is that the full path to the world file?
22:57.09bigbadbuckono
22:57.21bigbadbuckomy conf and map are in the same folder
22:57.59Winnyblast007, does BZFS do the local paths from the location of BZFS or the conf?
22:58.00bigbadbuckoeverything but public and maybe publicaddr works
22:59.02bigbadbuckolet me try one more time...
22:59.08bigbadbucko...brb
22:59.09bradWinny: it's from whatever directory you start the server
22:59.36brad(I think) :P
22:59.59brad~dns user-0c93kho.cable.mindspring.com
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23:01.57bigbadbuckookay would any of you guys want to try and find it real quick?
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23:02.24bradwhat
23:02.35bigbadbuckomy server sorry
23:02.36bradtry and find what exactly?
23:02.44bradwhere should we be looking
23:02.47bigbadbuckojust search bucko
23:02.54bigbadbuckoin bz
23:02.54brad~bzfquery 24.145.210.56:5154
23:03.13braddoesn't look like it's working :P
23:03.18bigbadbuckoshoot
23:03.28bigbadbuckogosh DANG it
23:03.36bradnope, connection timed out
23:03.49bradwhich probably means you didn't listen to anything about the port forwarding
23:04.00bigbadbuckook ok ok ok ok
23:04.19bigbadbuckowhat was it? portsforward.com?
23:04.25Winnyhttp://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
23:04.35bigbadbuckok
23:04.37Winnyfind your router, and follow the instructions.
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23:05.44jarkko_ruutuaround this time, we generally ask if you know your router's password.  People under age 16 generally don't have it.
23:05.45bigbadbuckoGEE WHIZ i'll just have it hosted my dad might not want me messing with that stuff
23:06.27bigbadbuckooh NO
23:06.36bigbadbuckonononononononononono
23:06.42bigbadbuckodang
23:06.48bigbadbuckowhat was i THINKING?
23:06.56jarkko_ruutuyo can do it.
23:07.10Winnyask your parents first
23:07.15Winnyyou could always do a double router system
23:07.16jarkko_ruututhe only thing that ends up changing is on port out of 100,000
23:07.16Think_Differentlhosting isn't terribly hard
23:07.25bigbadbuckoi just put my comp's ip address on the net
23:07.36jarkko_ruutuone port out of 100,000
23:07.44bigbadbuckooooh MMMAAAAAAAAANN
23:07.52jarkko_ruutuyou do that every time you click a link
23:08.00Think_Differentlbigbadbucko, an IP address isn't a password or anything
23:08.11jarkko_ruutuyou did that when you signed in here
23:08.13Winnyyour IP is already on the net
23:08.17bigbadbuckotrue
23:08.17Think_Differentlin fact, your IP is visible to everyone when you sign onto IRC
23:08.18Winnyit's anywhere you visit
23:08.20jarkko_ruutualways is
23:08.22brad>.>
23:08.34bradDDoS's bigbadbucko
23:08.40bigbadbucko?
23:08.42WinnyDDoses brad
23:08.52bradj/k, ignore me
23:08.54bigbadbucko??
23:08.56Think_DifferentlDoSes himself
23:09.00bigbadbuckowhat's that?
23:09.11jarkko_ruutuDenial of Service attack
23:09.11Winnygoogle it
23:09.12Think_DifferentlDistributed Denial of Service, IIRC
23:09.32bigbadbuckooh thanks a LOT brad :)
23:09.39bradnp
23:10.01bradso yes, I think we all agreed you should just ask your dad to do this for you :)
23:10.12bigbadbuckoum...
23:10.18Winnychances are he doesn't want you running a server and sucking all the bandwidth
23:10.22bigbadbucko...i'll just have it hosted
23:10.39jarkko_ruutudo you have several computers on your network?
23:10.52bigbadbuckoour home network?
23:11.00jarkko_ruutuyes
23:11.03bigbadbuckoyeah
23:11.03Think_Differentlhmm, apparently I have a tornado coming my way. better get a UPS someday.
23:11.10Winnyfun
23:11.14bigbadbuckowhere you live?
23:11.24Winnyin Nunavut
23:11.33bigbadbuckoIN WHERE???????
23:11.37jarkko_ruutuother comps on the local network will be slowed signifigantly when you have players on
23:11.45bigbadbuckook then no way
23:11.55jarkko_ruutuwhen the server is empty, it consumes almost zero bandwidth
23:12.12Think_DifferentlIin Nunvut
23:12.18bigbadbuckoyeah i'm getting it hosted
23:12.24Winnybigbadbucko: Nunavut, never heard of it?
23:12.29bigbadbuckonope
23:12.34jarkko_ruutulag equals players times shots (roughly)
23:12.38Winnyshame
23:12.41bradneither Winny :P
23:12.51Think_Differentl:P
23:12.57Winnyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut
23:13.13Think_DifferentlI live in Washington DC :P
23:13.17bradjarkko_ruutu: ya mean bandwidth usage?
23:13.34jarkko_ruutuyeah
23:14.03jarkko_ruutusnow probably just melted
23:14.16bradso 100 players * 1 shot = 100KB/s ? :P
23:14.30bigbadbuckopffffft that's a lot
23:14.40bradya it's *massive*
23:14.56bradit would crash the internets
23:17.29Think_Differentlheh
23:18.32jarkko_ruutuit's a somewhat useful "rule", but it doesnt really mean anything
23:18.51jarkko_ruutuit's useful on home servers.
23:20.31bradI don't really know how much bandwidth they use
23:20.38bradperhaps WINNY should run some tests ;)
23:20.52bradseeing as he has control of a popular server
23:21.03Winny30 players averages about 1.5-2mbit/sec
23:21.16Winny25-30 actually
23:21.20bradthat's not good enough! we need pretty graphs!
23:21.29Think_Differentlcan't wait till FIOS comes then
23:22.32jarkko_ruutumofo has a nice graphing system for bandwidth usage,  among other things
23:22.53jarkko_ruutudaily, weekly, monthly, yearly graphs
23:26.56AAA_awrightWhat does everyone think about the nice new header? http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/\
23:27.50jarkko_ruutusomeone dropped their squares.
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