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02:44.43spatialgurugoes to try out loading fox burrow map in local server
02:45.19me1-map "foxburrow.bzw" -p 5154 -rh -pwn true
02:45.43spatialgurucan i use the basic gui too?
02:45.51spatialguruthe "start server" button?
02:46.02spatialguruworked for "random map" but not for the foxburrow bzw :(
02:46.11me1spatialguru, the map file must be in the worlds folder
02:46.12me1also
02:46.23me1It doesn't seem to always work. At least for me
02:46.24spatialguruit shows in my list fine
02:46.30spatialguruokay, thx
02:46.35spatialguruyou suggesting to use command line then?
02:46.40me1I usually just use bzfs in the cmd
02:46.42me1yeah
02:46.51me1what OS are you on?
02:46.57spatialguruokay - mac
02:47.01me1i think there is a configuration builder somewhere
02:47.06me1I don't know where it is on mac
02:47.12spatialgurui'm comfy with command line no prob
02:47.21me1ok
02:48.25me1you familiar with the options etc.? If you aren't http://my.bzflag.org/w/BZFS_Command_Line_Options might be helpful :)
02:48.37spatialgurunot really.. thanks!
02:48.49me1no problem!
02:50.22spatialguruah.. you meant -world earlier not -map :)
02:50.38spatialgurui'm guessing
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02:51.30spatialgurume1: what did you mean by -pwn ?
02:52.03spatialguruJeffM: yeah it gave me error: Failed -1 or something..  but now i'm trying on cli and can see better
02:52.20spatialgurushould i put full path in -world option?
02:52.22JeffMyou were running with the in game menu?
02:52.28JeffMwhat OS are you on?
02:52.29spatialguruyes tried that first
02:52.31spatialguruosx
02:52.34JeffMthe ingame menu sucks
02:52.44JeffM-world only needs the relitive path
02:52.48JeffMfrom the current working dir
02:54.16spatialguruhmm getting Unknown BZDB variable: _countdownResumeDelay
02:54.26JeffMwhat version of bzflag do you have?
02:54.34spatialguru2.0.10
02:54.43spatialgurubinaries too
02:54.55JeffMwierd, but that should just be a warning
02:55.26spatialgurudoes it return you to the prompt after launching?  or stays resident?
02:55.33JeffMstays
02:56.05spatialguruits a queer set up on mac anyway ;-)
02:56.15spatialgurugotta run.. but thx, will try again another time
02:56.18JeffMit is a command line app
02:56.23JeffMso it runs like a command line app
02:56.29spatialguruoh i'm with you
02:56.31JeffMnot all apps on a mac have to be clicky and shinny
02:56.32JeffM;)
02:56.39spatialgurui'm a CLI lover
02:56.41spatialguru:)
02:56.50spatialguruis there a debug option?
02:56.54JeffMyou can force it to the background with & or somethign I belvie
02:57.04JeffMyou can add up to 4 -d commands
02:57.05spatialguruyeah & would do it
02:57.07JeffMand it will spit out more info
02:57.14spatialgurucocol
02:57.15spatialgurucool
02:57.16JeffMmore then that you build debug enabled
02:57.19JeffMand use a debuger
02:57.43spatialguruweird i don't get any debug info
02:57.50spatialgurui should build anyway, just for fun
02:57.58JeffMhow many -ds did you add?
02:58.13spatialguru-d -d -d -d :)
02:58.25spatialguruno diff
02:58.31JeffMthat should log out the entire startup
02:58.50JeffMwhere did you put them?
02:58.56spatialguruend
02:59.00JeffMof what?
02:59.04spatialguruah
02:59.14spatialguruend of command.. i see at start they work better :0
02:59.39spatialgurubut sitll not much
02:59.40spatialguru./bzfs -d -d -d -d -world fox_burrow.bzw -p 5900
02:59.40spatialguruset variable: _burrowAngularAd = 1.5
02:59.41spatialguruset variable: _burrowSpeedAd = 1.0
02:59.41spatialguruUnknown BZDB variable: _countdownResumeDelay
02:59.43spatialguru:)
02:59.54spatialgurubiab
03:00.01JeffMthat should give youa  lot more then that
03:00.04JeffMlike the octree stuff
03:00.17spatialgurualso all i have is a tiny bzw file
03:00.23spatialguru26kb
03:00.35JeffMok
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03:41.43spatialguruhi again
03:41.50spatialguruI'm going to grab bzflag from svn...
03:41.59spatialguruis there a special branch to get experimental/unstable stuff?
03:42.06spatialguruor will svn co https://bzflag.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/bzflag bzflag do it?
03:43.25JeffMtrunk is developm,ent
03:43.36JeffMthat URL will get you every branc and every tag
03:43.47JeffMhttp://my.bzflag.org/w/SVN
03:43.58JeffMthat documents what we have in subversion
03:44.02spatialguruah okay..
03:44.10spatialguruthe sf.net default isn't helpful then ;) http://sourceforge.net/svn/?group_id=3248
03:44.20JeffMSF dosn't know our internal setup
03:44.29JeffMso yes that woudl get ALL our code
03:44.36JeffMbut you don't want all our code
03:44.47JeffMI assume you want to build a 2.0.x compatable server?
03:45.07Think_Differentlisn't all of the code around 2GB?
03:45.15JeffMprobably a little more
03:45.24JeffMnow that we have a bunch of new branches
03:46.27spatialgurumostly interested in trunk features, etc.  but compatability is good too ;)
03:46.40JeffMtrunk is not compatable
03:46.43JeffMin any way
03:46.45spatialguruanyone else that will play on my server will be able to have same
03:47.01spatialgurubecause that's me myself and I, oh and a kid or two ;)
03:47.19JeffMyou are welcome to try it but trunk is not considered playable at this time
03:47.25spatialgurui run mac and linux and will build on both
03:47.28JeffMyou may have issues
03:47.29spatialgurudoh - okay :)
03:47.36spatialguruis the client usable?
03:47.48JeffMonly with trunk servers
03:47.54JeffMit runs and conencts and stuff
03:47.58JeffMbut it's dev code
03:48.01JeffMmuch is untested.
03:48.03spatialguruoh interesting.. I see
03:48.12JeffMand there are lag isssues and stuff
03:48.30JeffMit may run ok over a lan
03:48.40spatialgurua little different than most software that I use..
03:48.45spatialguruintersting
03:48.54spatialguruokay then I guess I want a different branch :D
03:48.58JeffMthe start server in game menu has also been removed
03:49.00spatialguruI don't want to go against the flow too much
03:49.03spatialguruha
03:49.08JeffMyou want the v2_0branch if you want comptability
03:49.14JeffMthat will get you 2.0.13
03:49.34spatialgurucool thx
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