| 00:00.54 | Winny | there honestly aren't many features in CS3 that aren't in 7.0 |
| 00:01.03 | Winny | but I'm sure there's stuff behind the scenes thats leaps ahead |
| 00:01.13 | me1 | it's not that bad in terms of functionality, but in usability, 5.5 isn't that great. |
| 00:03.18 | me1 | donny_baker, "PS This tread is now dead..." |
| 00:03.36 | donny_baker | yeah |
| 00:03.58 | me1 | This _tread_ is now dead... |
| 00:04.17 | donny_baker | hehe...l no one said spelling was a prerequisite |
| 00:04.25 | donny_baker | just as JeffM |
| 00:04.29 | donny_baker | ask* |
| 00:04.38 | me1 | ;) |
| 00:05.02 | Winny | hehe |
| 00:05.39 | donny_baker | and fyi tread is spelled correctly... it just wasn't the word you were expecting |
| 00:06.07 | me1 | heh |
| 00:06.36 | me1 | "bzedit is old, and _supported_, ..." |
| 00:06.46 | me1 | lets see if I can find any more |
| 00:08.44 | donny_baker | is enjoying patching my VMWare ESX servers |
| 00:17.43 | *** join/#bzchat think_differentl (n=thinkdif@adsl-75-36-132-61.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:17.55 | *** join/#bzchat Drummaster01 (n=43a72c3b@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:17.59 | Drummaster01 | hi |
| 00:18.39 | Drummaster01 | can someone tell me how to put up a server step by step? |
| 00:18.48 | think_differentl | Drummaster01: it's on the wiki... |
| 00:18.48 | Drummaster01 | just kidding |
| 00:19.09 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 00:19.33 | Drummaster01 | so ive gotten a little done about getting nup my server |
| 00:20.08 | Drummaster01 | i used the forums |
| 00:20.49 | Drummaster01 | and im to the part where you execute the command to start the server |
| 00:21.00 | Drummaster01 | but i got confused there |
| 00:22.20 | Winny | you type it into the termainl |
| 00:22.53 | Drummaster01 | oh ok |
| 00:23.00 | Winny | are you on windows? |
| 00:23.01 | Drummaster01 | the code, yes? |
| 00:23.04 | Drummaster01 | mac |
| 00:23.12 | donny_baker | and read the error messages... they tell you what is wrong |
| 00:23.16 | Winny | so Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal |
| 00:23.22 | Drummaster01 | yeah |
| 00:23.24 | Drummaster01 | or |
| 00:23.28 | Winny | and type in /path/to/bzfs -options |
| 00:23.41 | think_differentl | BZFlag.app is a directory |
| 00:23.46 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 00:23.51 | Winny | think_differentl: and? |
| 00:24.01 | think_differentl | Winny: not sure he knows that |
| 00:24.08 | Winny | ah |
| 00:24.25 | Drummaster01 | ok it says application or directory not found |
| 00:24.33 | Winny | what did you type? |
| 00:24.59 | Drummaster01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.03 | think_differentl | >_< |
| 00:25.05 | Winny | oh wow |
| 00:25.09 | Winny | we've got some work to do |
| 00:25.18 | Winny | Drummaster01: tell ya what |
| 00:25.19 | Drummaster01 | u said |
| 00:25.37 | Winny | can you wait about 20 hours, I can put together a quick video on how to do it |
| 00:25.44 | me1 | supertest |
| 00:25.47 | me1 | :\ |
| 00:25.57 | Winny | "path/to/bzfs" means you need to replace that with the path to BZFS |
| 00:25.59 | think_differentl | /Users/<username>/Applications/BZflag.app/Contents/Resources/bzfs, right? |
| 00:26.00 | Drummaster01 | are you serious |
| 00:26.07 | think_differentl | i think that's it. |
| 00:26.11 | Winny | -options means your options |
| 00:26.18 | Drummaster01 | i know that, temp |
| 00:26.35 | Winny | if I wasn't serious I wouldn't say it |
| 00:26.46 | me1 | Winny, are you ever serious? |
| 00:26.46 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 00:26.54 | me1 | hides |
| 00:26.57 | think_differentl | xD |
| 00:27.04 | Drummaster01 | you dont need to go to the trouble of making a video |
| 00:27.16 | Winny | it'll take me about 10 minutes |
| 00:27.32 | Winny | but I can't do it tonight |
| 00:27.33 | Drummaster01 | u dont need to if u dont want to |
| 00:27.48 | me1 | Drummaster01, he probably wants to |
| 00:28.03 | Drummaster01 | xD |
| 00:28.09 | Winny | it'll help more people then just you, which is the main reason |
| 00:28.17 | JeffM | so many people ask, it'd be helpfull if it was quality |
| 00:28.21 | Winny | I was planning on doing it anyways since it seems to be a fairly popular question |
| 00:28.23 | Drummaster01 | so i was your inspiration? |
| 00:28.33 | Winny | did I say that? No. |
| 00:28.33 | Drummaster01 | woohoo! |
| 00:28.34 | JeffM | tho we have too many servers as it is now |
| 00:28.36 | think_differentl | Drummaster01: why do you want to even set up a server, running one is not a simple task |
| 00:29.00 | Drummaster01 | we need 1000 servers by monday |
| 00:29.08 | JeffM | no, no we don't |
| 00:29.15 | JeffM | we have more servers then players as is |
| 00:29.21 | Drummaster01 | i know |
| 00:29.34 | Drummaster01 | but its nice to have a variety |
| 00:29.42 | Winny | we already HAVE a variety |
| 00:29.45 | JeffM | indeed |
| 00:29.57 | Drummaster01 | i know thats what i said |
| 00:29.58 | JeffM | most servers exist just because some kid wants to "be admin" |
| 00:30.05 | Drummaster01 | but you have a point too |
| 00:30.05 | think_differentl | 80% of the servers we have aren't even played on |
| 00:30.46 | Drummaster01 | i dont want to creat a server w/ map just to be admin |
| 00:30.48 | JeffM | it would be better to consoldate most of those down, and make more use of map change plugins to get the desired effect |
| 00:31.07 | JeffM | Drummaster01, noone said we were talking about you specificly |
| 00:31.34 | think_differentl | hosting a server is not quite as fun as you would expect. |
| 00:31.48 | Drummaster01 | he did, did he now? |
| 00:31.53 | JeffM | security and administration are the big things. |
| 00:32.00 | Drummaster01 | i know |
| 00:32.00 | Winny | yeah |
| 00:32.05 | Winny | they're not exactly fun |
| 00:32.09 | Drummaster01 | iv ebeen a cop on a couple servers |
| 00:32.17 | JeffM | cool |
| 00:32.21 | Winny | that has nothing to do with security |
| 00:32.27 | Drummaster01 | i know what its like with security |
| 00:32.33 | Drummaster01 | oh |
| 00:32.40 | think_differentl | Drummaster01: so, what's it like with security? |
| 00:32.48 | Drummaster01 | you mean personal security, like firewall and stuff |
| 00:33.15 | JeffM | network security, etc.. |
| 00:33.21 | Drummaster01 | yeah |
| 00:33.23 | Winny | think about it this way: You're opening a port on a server to the world. any vulerabilities and it's not good |
| 00:33.32 | JeffM | opening up your machine to the internet can lead it have some very bad problems |
| 00:33.40 | Drummaster01 | yeah |
| 00:33.46 | Winny | OS X is safer then windows for remote exploits, but not by much |
| 00:33.51 | spldart | Windows much more than linux in my personal experience |
| 00:34.32 | Drummaster01 | so back to executing the command to make the server... |
| 00:34.40 | JeffM | many OSX systems have poor user choices ( weak or no password ) and are exploitable via various linux methods |
| 00:35.01 | Winny | doesn't leopard force you to set a 8 char password? I don't remember |
| 00:35.26 | JeffM | godgodgod is 8 charactrs or more :) |
| 00:35.33 | spldart | heh |
| 00:35.42 | spldart | I like alphanumerics myself |
| 00:35.50 | JeffM | god12345? |
| 00:35.52 | JeffM | ;) |
| 00:35.54 | spldart | Hah |
| 00:36.03 | spldart | 1g3o5d |
| 00:36.26 | JeffM | Drummaster01, the thread on the fourms goes over the command line command |
| 00:36.27 | JeffM | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 00:36.37 | JeffM | check out the section that has this line |
| 00:36.42 | JeffM | /Applications/BZFlag 2.0.0.app/core/osx/ |
| 00:36.56 | Drummaster01 | i know i saw the threads |
| 00:37.02 | Winny | JeffM: eh, no.. |
| 00:37.03 | JeffM | it tells you how to set up a simple config |
| 00:37.03 | Drummaster01 | i opened up bzfs |
| 00:37.10 | Drummaster01 | typed in the command |
| 00:37.15 | Drummaster01 | hit enter |
| 00:37.21 | Drummaster01 | nothing happened |
| 00:37.26 | JeffM | you don't type the commands into bzfs |
| 00:37.37 | JeffM | bzfs is not an interactive program |
| 00:37.41 | JeffM | you put them into the terminal window |
| 00:37.48 | think_differentl | you use arguments |
| 00:37.49 | Winny | /Applications/BZFlag-2.0.10.app/Contents/MacOS |
| 00:37.50 | JeffM | after you do a CD to where the bzfs progam is |
| 00:37.54 | donny_baker | you type bzfs <options> enter |
| 00:38.00 | Drummaster01 | i know for me bzfs is a sort of file in terminal |
| 00:38.22 | JeffM | Drummaster01, a script that runs bzfs in the terminal? |
| 00:38.30 | JeffM | was it somthing you double clicked? |
| 00:38.43 | Drummaster01 | i click bzfs |
| 00:38.44 | donny_baker | yes but once you type bzfs and hit enter, it is running and no more interaction from you |
| 00:38.51 | JeffM | yes, you can NOT do that |
| 00:39.02 | JeffM | what you are doing is not what the thread said to you and WILL NOT work |
| 00:39.16 | JeffM | you need to run the terminal program manualy |
| 00:39.16 | think_differentl | you have to open the terminal, type the path and the arguments and THEN press enter to run it. |
| 00:39.38 | Drummaster01 | im lost, start over |
| 00:39.39 | donny_baker | reading what is said and following the instructions exactly will do wonders... try it |
| 00:39.53 | JeffM | Winny, it's a capital C on contents? |
| 00:39.58 | Winny | yeah |
| 00:39.59 | think_differentl | JeffM: yeah |
| 00:40.02 | Drummaster01 | no |
| 00:40.03 | JeffM | Drummaster01, did you read the thread? |
| 00:40.09 | Drummaster01 | yes |
| 00:40.27 | JeffM | did you follow EXACTLY what it told you to do? |
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| 00:40.32 | JeffM | or not |
| 00:40.35 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 00:40.38 | think_differentl | Drummaster01: then you should be able to do it without problems. |
| 00:40.39 | JeffM | did you follow EXACTLY what it told you to do? |
| 00:40.44 | Drummaster01 | sorry, i dont know what happened |
| 00:40.49 | JeffM | or did you take a shortcut? |
| 00:40.54 | Drummaster01 | i went along with the thread |
| 00:40.59 | JeffM | no you did not |
| 00:41.02 | Drummaster01 | going along with it |
| 00:41.07 | JeffM | the thread does NOT say to double click bzfs |
| 00:41.17 | JeffM | "On OSX you can bring up a terminal by going to the applications folder, then the tools folder, then choosing the "terminal" application. This will give you a UNIX type terminal shell. |
| 00:41.17 | JeffM | " |
| 00:41.23 | JeffM | did you do that part? |
| 00:41.40 | Drummaster01 | yes |
| 00:41.53 | JeffM | what did you type into the terminal after that? |
| 00:42.01 | Winny | JeffM: utilities actually |
| 00:42.10 | JeffM | Winny, they moved it? |
| 00:42.11 | donny_baker | 20:23:16 < Winny> so Applications -> Utilities -> Terminal |
| 00:42.20 | Drummaster01 | nothing that worked |
| 00:42.21 | Winny | JeffM: was utilities in tiger too |
| 00:42.25 | donny_baker | we were here 40 minutes ago ;) |
| 00:42.33 | Drummaster01 | might've been one time |
| 00:42.33 | JeffM | Drummaster01, what did you type into the terminal? |
| 00:43.01 | JeffM | Winny, updated, thanks |
| 00:43.06 | Drummaster01 | i dont remember, i didnt know i was supposed to remember |
| 00:43.19 | Winny | sure |
| 00:43.26 | JeffM | Drummaster01, well if you epect to do this a lot ( like run a server) yes, you should remember it |
| 00:43.32 | JeffM | Drummaster01, go and do it again |
| 00:43.38 | JeffM | don't take any shortcults |
| 00:43.41 | JeffM | just do what it says |
| 00:43.46 | JeffM | it's writen that way for a reason |
| 00:43.51 | JeffM | you have to type a lot of things |
| 00:43.52 | spldart | Are you confortable in terminal drummaster? |
| 00:44.07 | think_differentl | spldart: i seriously doubt that |
| 00:44.45 | spldart | One thing is for sure... hosting an instance of bzfs forced me to get more confy with dosbox and then later terminal. |
| 00:44.47 | JeffM | if the instructions were wrong on where it was, I doubt he ever even got to it and is maybe just telling us a little fib. |
| 00:45.24 | think_differentl | thinks bzflag should have paid support |
| 00:45.28 | Drummaster01 | i was on with someone this morning, i think it was you jeffm |
| 00:45.30 | spldart | grr.. dos box as in windows command window.. not the dos emulator for linux ;) |
| 00:45.40 | JeffM | Drummaster01, you asked me thiungs last night |
| 00:45.48 | JeffM | but you never said how far you got |
| 00:46.00 | Drummaster01 | well, i talked to someone this morning |
| 00:46.11 | JeffM | have you REALLY gone and done what the thread said? or did you skim it and just click around a little |
| 00:46.24 | JeffM | it's ok if you have, just let us know so we can actualy help you |
| 00:46.49 | Drummaster01 | im drawing a blank here |
| 00:46.52 | Drummaster01 | uhg |
| 00:47.06 | Drummaster01 | i hate how i always complicate things |
| 00:47.27 | Drummaster01 | bangs head against wall |
| 00:47.27 | JeffM | ok, if you can't recall what you did, then just asking here isn't the best thing for you. I'd go thru the thread again, step by step |
| 00:47.37 | JeffM | it's not that hard, just don't take any shortcuts |
| 00:47.44 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 00:47.48 | JeffM | or get your parents to help you if you need it |
| 00:48.14 | Drummaster01 | my parents divorced, and my mom a tard when it comes to modern technology |
| 00:48.24 | JeffM | be nice |
| 00:48.26 | spldart | Well... |
| 00:48.29 | Drummaster01 | im sorry |
| 00:48.35 | spldart | There is lots of tutorials on operating in terminal |
| 00:48.40 | Drummaster01 | just frusterated with myself |
| 00:48.42 | JeffM | then if you have no other help then it is up to you to take the time to learn it. It will not be instant |
| 00:48.43 | spldart | and there is that thread recommeneded |
| 00:48.50 | spldart | just don't skimp through |
| 00:48.52 | JeffM | and we can not help you with the basics of using your comptuer. |
| 00:48.58 | Drummaster01 | i know |
| 00:49.07 | Drummaster01 | i'll go start over now |
| 00:49.19 | Winny | I'll do that video tommorow. If you can't follow that, then chances are you won't be able to do it. That's just how it is. |
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| 00:49.39 | spldart | Hrm... Do we really need a video? |
| 00:49.49 | Winny | spldart: so many people ask, it's worth it IMO |
| 00:49.52 | spldart | Reeaaaallllyy? |
| 00:49.55 | think_differentl | spldart: it's easier than telling everyone |
| 00:49.59 | spldart | heh |
| 00:50.03 | JeffM | spldart, it dosn't hurt, and if he wants to, who cares |
| 00:50.08 | think_differentl | perhaps we could charge a dollar for the video? xD |
| 00:50.10 | spldart | oki doki |
| 00:50.13 | Winny | gives me a chance to try out screenflow :p |
| 00:50.22 | spldart | Is that like Fraps?> |
| 00:50.25 | JeffM | think_differentl, and so what with the money? |
| 00:50.27 | Winny | sort of, but more awesome |
| 00:50.32 | JeffM | techincaly it's his video |
| 00:50.36 | spldart | hehe |
| 00:50.46 | Winny | think_differentl: not like it's killing my bandwidht |
| 00:50.49 | think_differentl | then Winny will have a few dollars more ;) |
| 00:51.05 | JeffM | even if you could sell it, or support. you could not pay someone to be here 24/7 for 15$ a monthy |
| 00:51.05 | spldart | Yay! dollar menu at McDonalds |
| 00:51.22 | JeffM | he can sell it, it's his video :) |
| 00:51.58 | Winny | that would be totally evil for a 5 min video :P |
| 00:52.22 | JeffM | not if you can get people to buy it |
| 00:54.17 | JeffM | goes to kill some player characters |
| 01:00.24 | CBG | Day four of the Drummaster soap opera. |
| 01:02.11 | Drummaster01 | oh come on! |
| 01:02.28 | CBG | Just teasing. :P Have you got it to work yet? |
| 01:02.28 | Drummaster01 | its EPISODE 4 |
| 01:02.34 | Drummaster01 | nope |
| 01:02.41 | a_meteorite | episode 4 is so star wars. |
| 01:02.45 | CBG | Ok, you have terminal open, right? |
| 01:02.48 | Drummaster01 | but thanks guys for letting me start over |
| 01:03.09 | Drummaster01 | im on a different problem |
| 01:03.54 | Drummaster01 | it says "Save this file under the name myconfig.txt in your bzflag install directory." |
| 01:04.31 | CBG | Ok, don't worry too much about that right now, it doesn't really matter where you save it. |
| 01:04.41 | CBG | Best thing you can do for now is go to your Home folder |
| 01:04.59 | CBG | and make a new folder there called "bz" :) |
| 01:05.10 | Drummaster01 | ok' |
| 01:05.19 | CBG | then any configs or maps that you make or download from the forum, move them into that folder for now :) |
| 01:05.35 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:05.51 | CBG | ok, so you made the bz folder and saved your myconfig.txt there? |
| 01:06.35 | Drummaster01 | yes |
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| 01:07.09 | CBG | great :) Now, you are going to open Terminal again. Or if it is open, close that window and open a new one. |
| 01:07.18 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:07.52 | Drummaster01 | window open |
| 01:07.59 | Drummaster01 | but theres a draft |
| 01:08.03 | CBG | ok. You're gonna type a command into terminal that will look like: A-Folder/Another-Folder/Blah/bzfs -conf "A-Folder/This-Folder/That/myconfig.txt" |
| 01:08.06 | CBG | a draft? |
| 01:08.15 | Drummaster01 | open window xD |
| 01:08.25 | CBG | haha :D |
| 01:08.36 | Drummaster01 | ok so what now? |
| 01:08.53 | CBG | So you need a command like A-Folder/Another-Folder/Blah/bzfs -conf "A-Folder/This-Folder/That/myconfig.txt" |
| 01:09.07 | CBG | Do you remember what someone else told you before about dragging bfs onto the terminal window? |
| 01:09.10 | Drummaster01 | exactly like that as i see it |
| 01:09.23 | Drummaster01 | oh |
| 01:09.32 | CBG | No, not that but LIKE it |
| 01:09.45 | Drummaster01 | umm, no i dont remember |
| 01:09.50 | Drummaster01 | its sumer |
| 01:09.57 | Drummaster01 | i dont have to |
| 01:10.12 | CBG | Keep Terminal open, but go your BZFlag.app game. Right (or Ctrl) click it and click Show COntents |
| 01:10.29 | CBG | open the Contents folder, then MacOS and you should see bzfs. Don't double click it!! |
| 01:10.32 | Drummaster01 | ok go to bzfs right? |
| 01:10.44 | CBG | Drag that bzfs thing into the terminal window and just drop it there. |
| 01:10.45 | Drummaster01 | yeah i know |
| 01:10.58 | CBG | Now it should have put a bit of text into Terminal, right? |
| 01:11.28 | Drummaster01 | yes it did |
| 01:11.32 | Drummaster01 | it said |
| 01:12.00 | Drummaster01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.13 | Winny | ok |
| 01:12.16 | CBG | Perfect! That is the "path" to bzfs... |
| 01:12.23 | Winny | so that's the path to the bzfs... dam he beat me |
| 01:12.35 | Drummaster01 | i guess i dont hit enter yet |
| 01:12.35 | a_meteorite | I prefer to say "directory traversal" |
| 01:12.40 | CBG | Think of it like this... if you were walking through your folders to get to bzfs, that is the path you would take |
| 01:13.07 | Drummaster01 | yeah |
| 01:13.09 | Drummaster01 | but |
| 01:13.11 | CBG | you would start at Applications, walk through BZFlag-2.0.10.app, go past Contents and into MacOS and there you will find bzfs :) |
| 01:13.16 | Drummaster01 | i couldnt walk into it |
| 01:13.17 | CBG | a_meteorite: shush |
| 01:13.25 | CBG | No, but imagine. :) |
| 01:13.32 | a_meteorite | folder == door |
| 01:13.36 | Drummaster01 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.55 | CBG | so, now we have a bit o code that will start bzfs. that's all you need... BUT don't click enter yet |
| 01:14.02 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:14.07 | CBG | if you do, it will run bzfs but with no map or settings. no point in that, right? :) |
| 01:14.10 | Drummaster01 | i guessed right! do i win? |
| 01:14.18 | Drummaster01 | yeah |
| 01:14.20 | CBG | So you saved that config earlier, remember? |
| 01:14.29 | Drummaster01 | so i take the file from text edit |
| 01:14.33 | CBG | Not yet.. |
| 01:14.37 | Drummaster01 | and drop it in terminal? |
| 01:14.41 | Drummaster01 | oh |
| 01:14.45 | Drummaster01 | that the config |
| 01:14.46 | CBG | In terminal, after the path to bzfs, make sure there is a space |
| 01:14.52 | CBG | there may be one already |
| 01:15.05 | CBG | you don't need 2 spaces, just 1. |
| 01:15.11 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:15.14 | Drummaster01 | 1 space |
| 01:15.38 | CBG | great. Now we type "-conf " in there |
| 01:15.46 | CBG | don't firget that space at the end again |
| 01:15.48 | CBG | forget* |
| 01:15.50 | Drummaster01 | pl |
| 01:15.52 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:16.16 | Drummaster01 | go on |
| 01:16.35 | CBG | NOW you drag your config file to Terminal |
| 01:16.41 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:16.43 | CBG | and drop it like bzfs, to get the path there :) |
| 01:17.02 | a_meteorite | spaces are good, it tells the bzfs program where to start and stop interpreting it's input (with dashes as delimiters) |
| 01:17.02 | CBG | don't press enter yet though |
| 01:17.07 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:17.15 | CBG | did it put the config path there? |
| 01:17.36 | Drummaster01 | yes |
| 01:17.46 | Drummaster01 | bz/myconfig.txt |
| 01:18.00 | CBG | yep :) |
| 01:18.06 | CBG | ok. do you have anything like "-d" or "-dd" in the config file? |
| 01:18.21 | Drummaster01 | what now |
| 01:18.28 | Drummaster01 | oh yes |
| 01:18.35 | Drummaster01 | at the bottom |
| 01:18.46 | CBG | how many Ds? :) |
| 01:19.48 | Drummaster01 | a c-, 2 f's, and 3 D's. he tries though |
| 01:19.57 | CBG | lol.. |
| 01:20.07 | Drummaster01 | so 3 Ds |
| 01:20.09 | CBG | Ok, that's great. The Ds are "Debug Levels". |
| 01:20.20 | CBG | if you have none, then bzfs doesn't tell you anything when it runs |
| 01:20.33 | CBG | if you have 4, it tells you every single thing that happens on the server |
| 01:20.46 | CBG | so 2 or 3 is better so that it tells you the important stuff but not EVERYTHING |
| 01:20.55 | Drummaster01 | i was gonna say... |
| 01:21.07 | CBG | Ok. Hit enter. :) |
| 01:21.10 | a_meteorite | sure it will tell you something with D's, it just won't tell you anything when something bad happens and you want to know more |
| 01:21.17 | Drummaster01 | finally the fun part |
| 01:21.20 | CBG | worse case scenario, you blow up your mac |
| 01:21.30 | Drummaster01 | drum roll please, drummaster |
| 01:21.33 | Drummaster01 | lol |
| 01:21.44 | Drummaster01 | dadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadada... |
| 01:21.58 | Drummaster01 | wow |
| 01:21.59 | a_meteorite | CBG: ahhh, you mean a bug in the stack that targets certain mac CPUs? I heard that was a nasty one |
| 01:22.02 | a_meteorite | targets special registers |
| 01:22.07 | donny_baker | whew 1 hour and 40 mintues after the first "I need some help" :) |
| 01:22.11 | CBG | a_meteorite: sshhhh |
| 01:22.14 | Drummaster01 | a whole lotta text just came up |
| 01:22.21 | CBG | donny_baker: hey hey, we're getting somewhere |
| 01:22.28 | Drummaster01 | you can leave, donkey |
| 01:22.30 | CBG | he just needed help from an expert like me |
| 01:22.32 | donny_baker | errors? or server output |
| 01:22.37 | CBG | Drummaster01: good |
| 01:22.42 | Drummaster01 | server output |
| 01:22.43 | a_meteorite | did it throw you back the prompt? |
| 01:22.46 | CBG | at this stage, any text is good :) |
| 01:23.16 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:23.19 | donny_baker | hehe.. probably good I don't have ops here ;) |
| 01:23.24 | a_meteorite | or another way to tell is if your terminal window title says bzfs |
| 01:23.24 | Drummaster01 | so my mac didnt explode |
| 01:23.29 | CBG | :) |
| 01:23.31 | donny_baker | not yet... |
| 01:23.38 | Drummaster01 | im a little disapointed tho |
| 01:23.58 | a_meteorite | believe me, the smell of melted electronics is not pleasant. you are not dissapointed. |
| 01:23.59 | CBG | Ok, so now you should try to join the server... If you had any details like an IP address or a Port in the config file, try to join using those |
| 01:24.00 | *** join/#bzchat Drummaster01 (n=43a72c3b@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 01:24.08 | CBG | if not, join "localhost" on port 5154 |
| 01:24.09 | a_meteorite | believe me, the smell of melted electronics is not pleasant. you are not disappointed. |
| 01:24.17 | CBG | Ok, so now you should try to join the server... If you had any details like an IP address or a Port in the config file, try to join using those - if not, join "localhost" on port 5154 |
| 01:24.59 | me1 | a_meteorite, believe me, we heard you the first time. you are not disappointed. |
| 01:25.20 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:25.29 | me1 | oh wait |
| 01:25.29 | me1 | nvm |
| 01:26.50 | a_meteorite | me1: Drummaster01 had left, did not know if he read it |
| 01:26.59 | me1 | a_meteorite, ^^ |
| 01:27.16 | donny_baker | that is the problem with CGI:IRC.. very unreliable |
| 01:27.35 | Drummaster01 | ok i joined localhost but everything was normal |
| 01:27.37 | a_meteorite | ~irc |
| 01:27.38 | infobot | "Welcome to IRC: where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents." |
| 01:27.44 | CBG | "normal"? |
| 01:27.48 | a_meteorite | lol... I thought he would mention IRC clients |
| 01:27.50 | Drummaster01 | i mean |
| 01:28.17 | Drummaster01 | normal as in ive seen localhost before |
| 01:28.27 | Drummaster01 | and nothing was different |
| 01:29.27 | CBG | did it have the map and settings tahat you put in the config file? |
| 01:29.34 | Drummaster01 | nope |
| 01:29.48 | Drummaster01 | default settings |
| 01:30.02 | CBG | hmm. Can you copy paste the config file to http://rafb.net/paste/ and click Paste, please? |
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| 01:30.46 | CBG | hmm. Can you copy paste the config file to http://rafb.net/paste/ and click Paste, please? (and then copy paste the link to the page in here) :) |
| 01:30.56 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:31.35 | Drummaster01 | do i copy and paste from terminal? |
| 01:32.00 | CBG | no, from the txt file |
| 01:32.07 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:34.36 | Drummaster01 | pasted |
| 01:35.20 | CBG | Ok cool. |
| 01:35.39 | CBG | YOu didn;t specify any map in the config so it just made a random one. |
| 01:35.51 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:35.57 | Drummaster01 | wait |
| 01:36.33 | CBG | I gotta go sleep now, it's 2:35am here. But ask nicely and maybe someone else will help you download a map from the forum or in-game, save it in your bz folder and then add a -world line to your config so that it will use that map next time. |
| 01:36.51 | donny_baker | night CBG |
| 01:36.52 | Drummaster01 | ok bye |
| 01:37.00 | Drummaster01 | u were da best |
| 01:37.37 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 01:37.42 | donny_baker | doesn't think "donkey" will help... he is just good for smart aleck comments it seems |
| 01:37.53 | Drummaster01 | he-haw |
| 01:39.15 | Drummaster01 | doesnt know crap about any of this stuff, so he coms here to demand answers |
| 01:39.23 | a_meteorite | donny_baker: who is donkey? |
| 01:39.35 | Drummaster01 | a uy in shrek |
| 01:39.41 | Drummaster01 | *guy |
| 01:39.50 | a_meteorite | I have not watched Shrek. |
| 01:39.51 | donny_baker | 21:22:07 < donny_baker> whew 1 hour and 40 mintues after the first "I need some help" :) |
| 01:39.54 | donny_baker | 21:22:11 < CBG> a_meteorite: sshhhh |
| 01:39.56 | donny_baker | 21:22:15 < Drummaster01> a whole lotta text just came up |
| 01:39.59 | donny_baker | 21:22:21 < CBG> donny_baker: hey hey, we're getting somewhere |
| 01:40.01 | donny_baker | 21:22:28 < Drummaster01> you can leave, donkey |
| 01:40.11 | Drummaster01 | if u want |
| 01:40.12 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 01:40.38 | Drummaster01 | im not pushing u away |
| 01:41.10 | Drummaster01 | but u arent destined to watch the comments roll by second, by second, |
| 01:41.35 | Drummaster01 | at least i give all of you jobs |
| 01:42.06 | Drummaster01 | and donkey |
| 01:42.19 | Drummaster01 | if you still wanna watch |
| 01:42.30 | Drummaster01 | get some popcorn er somethin |
| 01:42.50 | Drummaster01 | gonna be a long night |
| 01:44.45 | Drummaster01 | no one here to help? |
| 01:44.53 | Drummaster01 | ill be on my way then |
| 01:45.02 | a_meteorite | Stargate SG-1 takes precedent |
| 01:45.12 | Drummaster01 | thats awesome |
| 01:45.51 | Drummaster01 | and someone prank-called my sister today, saying she was madonna, and she wanter my sis in here studio |
| 01:46.04 | Drummaster01 | *true story |
| 01:48.01 | me1 | misses overlord |
| 01:48.48 | Drummaster01 | is annoyed that CGC was the only one who talked to him and helped |
| 01:48.58 | Drummaster01 | so |
| 01:49.09 | Drummaster01 | will leave on a poll |
| 01:49.58 | Drummaster01 | blah blah |
| 01:50.03 | Drummaster01 | bye all |
| 01:51.07 | a_meteorite | epic blah |
| 01:51.22 | me1 | epic silence from this channel for the next 30 minutes or else |
| 01:58.50 | spldart | epic? |
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| 02:06.32 | donny_baker | cbg was at least the 4th person to TRY and help.. he just wouldn't listen |
| 02:07.21 | CBG | he listened to me |
| 02:07.30 | AHA | lol |
| 02:07.39 | CBG | till i got tired and had to make my excuse... |
| 02:07.45 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:08.01 | AHA | that was a good waste of 20 minutes reading that conversation |
| 02:08.22 | spldart | Should have 'skimmed' |
| 02:08.25 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:08.35 | AHA | eww |
| 02:08.40 | AHA | then i miss the funny stuff |
| 02:08.42 | spldart | Like he did that thread |
| 02:08.46 | spldart | oh |
| 02:08.51 | spldart | pun was lost.. epic fail |
| 02:08.55 | AHA | like drummaster's comments that are soooo funnt |
| 02:08.57 | AHA | *funny |
| 02:10.42 | temp_dist | strange thing is, I went over all of that stuff with him 12 hours ago |
| 02:12.07 | CBG | didn't type slow enough |
| 02:13.49 | temp_dist | o |
| 02:13.50 | temp_dist | j |
| 02:13.52 | temp_dist | k |
| 02:14.15 | temp_dist | typo at molasses speed... |
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| 13:12.24 | Drummaster01 | hi again |
| 13:12.47 | Drummaster01 | so CBG |
| 13:13.03 | Drummaster01 | how's ya doin |
| 13:14.42 | donny_baker | im doing good, thanks for asking |
| 13:14.57 | donny_baker | nice refreshing nights sleep ;) |
| 13:17.32 | donny_baker | didnt mean to scare him off, was just trying to be friendly :) |
| 13:17.51 | temp_dist | skittish little thing... |
| 13:18.56 | CBG` | yo |
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