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04:32.28lol_uHi can someone please answer my questions? Im coding up a software and I need to know the following please
04:33.12lol_uWhats the cookie Domain and Whats the Cookie Name for Private messages?
04:36.43lol_uPlease help
04:38.37JeffMcoding up a software?
04:38.47lol_uyes
04:38.54lol_uwell a toolbar actually
04:38.55JeffMthat dosnt' mean anything?
04:39.03JeffMdo you mean "setting up a fourm"?
04:39.07lol_uno
04:39.09JeffMor some kind of website
04:39.14lol_uNo
04:39.24JeffMthen what kind of software are you coding up?
04:39.29lol_uAll i need is the cookie domain and the cookie name please
04:39.34JeffMfor WHAT?
04:39.38lol_ua toolbar
04:39.41JeffMin what?
04:39.45JeffMwe can't read your mind
04:39.50lol_uI am making a bzflag toolbar
04:39.55JeffMOH
04:39.58lol_uxD
04:40.08JeffMyou need to actualy explain yourself
04:40.14Winnylol_u: firefox shows them in the cookie manager
04:40.17lol_uI asked people if its a cool idea they said they will love it and im sorry
04:40.20JeffMsuch as that you are asking for the cookie domain of the bzflag FOURM cookie
04:40.25lol_uIm not using firfox winny
04:40.34JeffMthen use a browser that shows it to you
04:40.43lol_uWEll dont u guys know?
04:40.51JeffMoff the top of my head, no
04:40.55lol_udoes Safari show you?
04:41.13JeffMwhy would you execpt us to know all aspects of all our webservices off the top of our heads?
04:41.16JeffMdunno
04:41.25JeffMit's your browser I'd hope you knew how to use it
04:41.33lol_uwell i dont know maybe because you are a moderator xD
04:41.34JeffMmy guess is the domain is bzflag.org
04:41.39Winnyif you're developing a toolbar you should know how to figure it out yourself
04:41.40lol_uok
04:41.43JeffMindeed
04:41.46lol_ufine fine
04:41.49lol_uthanks
04:41.56Winnythat's like coding a C++ application and not knowing how to compile it
04:42.08JeffMinstall firefox, log in, and look at what the cookies are called
04:42.14JeffMwhy does your toolbar need the cookie?
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04:42.24JeffMwhat is it going to do?
04:42.26lol_uactuallu nevermind I found Firfox in my mac
04:42.40JeffMand how are you going to release it?
04:42.57lol_uTj will post it on his domain for download
04:43.25JeffMwhat license will it be under?
04:43.53lol_uThe toolbar will notify of new posts, new PM, login, wiki, all kinds. and I didnt make a license for it yet
04:44.01lol_uany ideas on who I can go with for license?
04:44.04lol_ufirst time
04:44.05JeffMwill the source code be available?
04:44.09JeffMwho?
04:44.10lol_uno
04:44.20JeffMclosed source
04:44.29JeffMthen please do not discuss it here or anywhere on the fourms
04:44.38JeffMsounds like a scam to me
04:45.15lol_uthen what you want open source?
04:45.20JeffMall of it
04:45.24lol_ufine fine
04:45.44lol_uyeah Im totally gonna scam when Im in 3 groups and all
04:45.55lol_ucoam, wtwrp, etc
04:45.59JeffMyou could use it to grab usernames and passwords
04:46.02JeffMfor those that use it
04:46.07lol_ulike I know how to do that
04:46.08JeffMit could be writen as a phisher
04:46.20JeffMwe don't presume to know what you do or do not know
04:46.26Winnyit's been done before, sadly
04:46.27JeffMwe can not read your mind, as has been stated before
04:46.33lol_uright
04:47.10JeffMso it will only be for safari?
04:47.26lol_uWinny Im in firfox right now where can I find the cookie manager?
04:47.33lol_uand it will be for all browsers
04:47.37Winnyin the preferneces
04:47.40blast007lol_u: all browsers? huh?
04:47.51lol_ucant spell it xD
04:47.53blast007do you have any idea what you are even talking about?
04:48.00lol_usure
04:48.03lol_udenial
04:48.04JeffMwhat exactly are you writing this in?
04:48.05lol_uxD
04:48.35JeffMyou know what... if you are going to act like a fool when people are trying to ask you serious questions about your project, don't bother coming here. ok.
04:48.37lol_uThis website my friend told me to never give out
04:48.42blast007uh
04:48.44lol_u?
04:48.45JeffMriiiiggghh
04:48.49JeffMdude, you are so full of crap
04:48.56lol_uok im out bye
04:49.03lol_udont have time for this
04:49.07blast007yeah, I bet you don't
04:49.15JeffMwhat, yanking chains?
04:49.18lol_uhave a nice day
04:49.20JeffMmaking crap up?
04:49.27JeffMpulling stuff out of your butt?
04:49.32blast007lol..
04:49.33JeffMit's hard work
04:49.54WinnyI invented a magical new language called loluscript! It runs in any browser and you don't need to program to make anything!
04:50.24JeffMa tool for the iGoogle would be cool
04:50.35JeffMbut we could do that with RSS feeds if we had em
04:50.55WinnyI don't really understand what he was talking about @ the wiki
04:51.07JeffMI think he was meaning recently changed pages
04:51.08Winnya RSS wiki feed? a wiki editor?
04:51.33blast007a magic wiki page creator that reads your mind
04:51.37Winnyahh
04:51.48AAA_awrightlol lol_u
04:51.50blast007you just have to hold your face close to the screen
04:52.00Winnyblast007: then it stabs yoU!
04:52.03blast007and then click on "Allow" or "Deny"
04:52.04WinnyI knew it!
04:52.17JeffMhe didn't mention feeds
04:52.29JeffMbetting he was tring to get the cookie and login
04:52.31blast007he didn't mention much of anything
04:52.34JeffMrife for phishing
04:52.47blast007anything useful*
04:53.43Winnyyeah
04:53.44AAA_awrightCookie farming...
04:53.53JeffMexactly
04:54.08Winnyif he'd ever get it programmed
04:54.17Winnyseeing as he can barely form a sentence
04:54.48JeffMoptimaly we'd have feeds on pages that read the cookie, then just use feed readers inside the browsers. then only the browser wold use the cookie and we'd never see it
04:56.53blast007feeds for the forum?
04:57.18blast007heck, just make it only show public postings...  then you don't have to do *anything* with cookies
04:57.18JeffMyeah
04:57.31JeffMone for publics
04:57.41JeffMbut it'd be cool to have one that read the cookie and gave you your PMs
04:57.47JeffMsame as autologin on the fourm
04:58.36blast007don't really see the use of that
04:58.50blast007if you use a 3rd party feed reader, chances are it won't be of any use anyways
04:58.56JeffMyeah good
04:59.06blast007so if you're already in the browser, why not just view the forum itself and read the PMs there?
04:59.08JeffMbut If I use a feed reader on my google home page, it WILL work ;)
04:59.17JeffMI like to see all my crap in my iGoogle
04:59.26blast007no, it probably won't work
04:59.36JeffMdoes google get the feed for you?
04:59.36blast007wouldn't iGoogle read the RSS feed on their server?
04:59.42blast007so they wouldn't have the cookie
04:59.52JeffMI think my browser reads the feeds
04:59.56JeffMand it formats them
04:59.57blast007doubt it
05:00.02JeffMcus sometimes it takes a bit and they fill in
05:00.05JeffMbut maybe not
05:00.09JeffMif not you are right
05:00.16blast007there's cross domain limitations with AJAX stuff
05:00.21JeffMahh
05:00.33JeffMI do dig that I can have the commits on a feed reader there
05:00.36JeffMbut those are public
05:01.48WinnyI just noticeed something... http://my.bzflag.org/bb/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=31828 ... what's with his website?
05:01.53Winnya used auto sales site? huh?
05:02.12blast007:/
05:02.35JeffMask him
05:02.39blast007"BUY HERE, PAY HERE, YOUR APPROVED!!!"  nice grammar
05:02.59Winnyhmm, maybe he did make it :P
05:03.06AbominableWinny, lol
05:03.45Abominablehttp://www.paykanauto.com/Contact.html, I'm going to call tomorrow
05:05.16AAA_awrightLOL
05:06.52Abominable"hai! is lol_u died there!? I hear he be sellin sum carz!"
05:07.22Winny~Abominable++
05:07.51AbominableI'll see if I can record it. Post it some where and link it.
05:08.08blast007Abominable: you do realize that they're closed tomorrow, right?
05:08.14blast007says so right on the contact page
05:08.28Abominableme fail
05:08.33AbominableI'll do it monday then/
05:08.47AbominableEverything is "off center"
05:08.50blast007I doubt he's associated in any way with them
05:08.55blast007he's in a different state
05:09.16blast007he's in Virginia
05:09.18AbominableI still want to do it :)
05:09.35blast007why? he probably just put it there randomly
05:09.46Winnyblast007: eh, thought he had a sandiego IP
05:09.59blast007hmm
05:10.02blast007let me check again
05:10.03Winny~dns 76.93.133.132
05:12.01blast007guess so
05:13.03AAA_awrightInteresting player count graph, usually it looks a bit more wavy, a sinusoid: http://bzflag.redjacket.ws/graph.3/allw
05:13.59AbominableAAA_awright, do you know what time the major spike was?
05:15.12AAA_awrightAbominable: Each line is 2 hrs, and the current time is on the right
05:15.30AAA_awrightThe middle of it was 8 hrs ago
05:16.18AbominableThanks
05:18.27WinnyJeffM: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12934
05:18.48Winnyso he didn't code it... it's some lame make your own toolbar site
05:20.45blast007and it doesn't even work on a Mac  :P  or firefox
05:20.49Winnylol
05:22.16Abominable"The topic does not exist"
05:22.20JeffMbingo
05:22.28AbominableOr as my web browsers says, Get off your computer
05:23.34AbominableJeffM, to who? lol_u died?
05:23.37JeffMyes
05:23.53JeffMitoolbar.net does not have a good threat assesment
05:23.58JeffMand some dubious origins
05:24.00AbominableI'll let him know.
05:24.17Winnyit's linked to in his sig, if you wanna remove it, JeffM
05:24.23JeffMk
05:24.44Winnyany site that says "100% malware free!!!" gets my alarm going
05:24.55AbominableSame here
05:24.56Winnyyou should trust em enough or not download something
05:24.58JeffMhe's just about getting close to being done
05:25.42AbominableJeffM, are you going to suspend him?
05:25.54JeffMhe is getting very close to that anoyance level
05:26.03JeffMfirst will be preventing him from posting
05:26.33Abominablehis "lol" posts
05:26.57Abominablehe came into my channel, "Abominable !!!hi!?!?!?!"
05:26.59JeffMprety much all this psots
05:27.09JeffMhe dosn't understand many things and treats them like a game
05:27.33JeffMI don't belive any of his maps have a license even
05:27.38JeffMtechincaly I could pull em
05:27.54blast007does he post any of his maps?
05:27.59Abominablewell, almost all his maps are not really his, from what I've seen myself.
05:28.02blast007I thought he just posts screenshots
05:28.20JeffMahh
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05:28.24JeffMso is he a theif?
05:28.31blast007CoAM doesn't release maps
05:28.36blast007afaik
05:28.39AbominableHe stole two of PPs maps, if I'm correct
05:28.39blast007they just hoard them  :)
05:28.44WinnyJeffM: he's stolen like 3 purple panzer maps
05:28.44Abominablechanged them a bit, and called him his.
05:28.50Abominable3 O.o
05:28.54AbominableI thought it was 2
05:28.58WinnyAbominable: didn't change them at all
05:29.06AbominableHe took away textures.
05:29.08Winnyone was just on the serverlist - not released on the forum
05:29.13blast007Abominable: no, he didn't
05:29.14Winnyno, that was pp's original version
05:29.18blast007he used the old version
05:29.33JeffMare they still posted?
05:29.37JeffMthe screenshots I mean?
05:29.38Winnyno
05:29.38Abominableoh, yesh
05:29.40Winnyoh
05:29.42Winnymaybe
05:31.20JeffMwhat threads?
05:31.45Winnylooking
05:32.19Winnyhmm, might've been deleted
05:32.30JeffMgood
05:32.31Winnyblast007, is that site comparing the 2 maps still up?
05:33.04blast007http://static.bzexcess.com/stolenmap/
05:33.30AbominableSigh, http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=12931
05:34.18blast007what about it?
05:34.48AbominableI'm not trying to be rude or anything, but sometimes some things just are not needed.
05:34.54AbominableBut we all learn I suppose.
05:36.03AAA_awrightblast007: You could make like BZFX and send a C&D notice
05:36.20JeffMhe's not the copyright holder of the map
05:36.24AAA_awrightI mean, Purple panzer
05:36.34WinnyAAA_awright, it was taken down already
05:36.37AAA_awrightwho... isn't... here
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21:43.26spldartLOL... I"ve been google map/satellite overlaying around tokyo and I actually rememeber some stuff from my trip years ago Hehehe
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