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01:18.50TD-Linuxis away: Gone away for now.
01:52.31spldartI had never seen an optical drive fail in such a way that it kept a PC from getting to grub.... It posted and everything but it stalled right after. Things that make me say hrm
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03:16.12TJ13820Can an admin please help?
03:38.26think_differentlnot if you don't stay
03:55.46spldartright?
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05:28.40DominatioN?
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21:05.35HitMan_hey guys
21:06.05HitMan_servers running great just got a question..
21:06.28donny_bakerjust ask, no need to ask if you can ask a question
21:06.42donny_baker:)
21:07.04donny_bakerthat is what we are here for... when we actually are here and not just idling
21:07.24HitMan_okay well about bzadmin.. not to be stupid or anything im running on mac osx 10.5 and well i cant seem to get bzadmin running i even followed the online wiki about it.. need help...
21:08.33Winnyrun it from the terminal
21:08.34HitMan_because like in terminal.. i cant see who connects to my server like in windows.. and i wanna be able to..
21:08.44HitMan_i did..
21:08.48HitMan_it still doesnt work..
21:08.51HitMan_says bad arguement
21:08.57JeffM2501what are you typing to run it?
21:09.00HitMan_everytime even after follwing the wiki to a T
21:09.02Winny/path/to/bzadmin nick server:port IIRC
21:09.32HitMan_iirc??
21:09.43JeffM2501If I recall correctly
21:09.45HitMan_im typeing this hang on ill show.
21:10.51donny_bakerbad argument meanst that something that you typed in after /path/to/bzadmin was incorrect for what it was expecting
21:11.06Winnydrag bzadmin to the terminal, hit enter
21:11.11Winnyenter your callsign
21:11.17Winnythen password, then the server:port
21:11.48HitMan_i tried that.. but it still says it.. i domt get it..
21:11.57HitMan_im dragging and dropping bzadmin to the terminal.
21:12.00Winnyit still says "it"?
21:12.06HitMan_then entering the nick pass server and port
21:12.09HitMan_yup.
21:12.22donny_bakerwell i presume you know your callsign and password
21:12.35HitMan_ide have to enter my calsign and password?
21:12.42Winny...yes....
21:12.48donny_bakerso my guess would be what you are entering for the server:port
21:13.08donny_bakerit should look something like this:
21:13.37donny_baker/path/to/bzadmin donny_baker secret_password bzflag3.norang.ca:5154
21:15.09HitMan_spaced between any of these or what???
21:15.24Winnydo you see spaces?
21:16.17HitMan_i see _
21:17.23HitMan_so spaces orrrr underscores?
21:17.25HitMan_orrr :
21:17.45Winnyyou realize donny_baker is his name
21:17.53Winnyso that _ is in his name
21:18.04donny_bakernope it goes like this:
21:18.16donny_baker/path/to/bzadmin donny_baker secret_password bzflag3.norang.ca:5154
21:18.19donny_baker/path/to/bzadmin donny_baker secret_password bzflag3.norang.ca:5154
21:18.25donny_bakersry hold on
21:18.29TD-Linuxdonny_baker, I don't think that's correct
21:18.36TD-Linuxusername:password@server:port
21:18.37TD-LinuxIIRC
21:18.42Winnyyeah
21:18.48Winnyor you can just start bzadmin
21:18.53Winnythen enter them, as I said earlier
21:19.00donny_baker/path/to/bzadmin donny_baker@bzflag3.norang.ca:5154 secret_password
21:19.05HitMan_IIIRC whats that?
21:19.12Winnywe told you already
21:19.14Winnyread.
21:19.34donny_bakerso that connects me as donny_baker to the server bzflag3.norang.ca on port 5154
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21:21.54HitMan_still get the error..
21:22.13Winnywhat error
21:22.20HitMan_bad argument
21:22.34WinnyOK. Drag bzadmin to the terminal
21:22.37Winnyhit enter to run it
21:22.40HitMan_did that
21:22.44Winnyit will then ask you for a callsign
21:22.48Winnythen hit enter again
21:22.51Winnyit will ask you for a password
21:22.57HitMan_then how would i run the server from that..
21:23.08Winnyyou don't run a server from bzadmin...
21:23.17donny_bakeror paste what you are typing EXACTLY (except for your password
21:23.32donny_bakerunless you want to change it right away ;)
21:23.41donny_bakerits been known to happen
21:25.33HitMan_k im in thanks guys
21:27.12donny_bakeryour welcome, following instructions exactly always helps
21:30.25me1donny_baker, if you put secret_password at the end, you will automaticly say it when you join
21:30.43me1so i don't recommend running it that way ;)
21:52.16HitMan_im good now...
21:52.19HitMan_thanks guys
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22:00.10HitMan_now im looking for sum good cool maps.. i find a bunch on loumans servers.. but i highly doubt those can be used..
22:04.02HitMan_oh and a friend of mine whos a windows user.. has a program thats called server doc.. is there anything like that for mac.. i hate javeing to tell it to load the config i dont see why it cant load it its self everyime..
22:04.24HitMan_haveing*
22:07.34JeffM2501write a shell script that starts bzfs with the command line
22:08.25HitMan_.. hate to tell ya.... im not that smart.. okay see heres my issue i have to drag the bzfs to the terminal yes.. but then i have to load the config manually by typeing it in i just want it to wer when i load bzfs it auto loads the config file to..
22:08.42JeffM2501bzfs can't do that by it'sefl
22:08.48JeffM2501you need to write a script that does it for you
22:09.06JeffM2501it's like a batch file on windows
22:09.14HitMan_im lost.. i need to write a script so that when i load bzfs the config loads to.
22:09.38HitMan_right?
22:09.54JeffM2501techincaly no
22:10.05JeffM2501the script loads bzfs for you with the -conf line
22:10.16JeffM2501then you just run the script instead of bzfs
22:10.29HitMan_okay yeah see i need that. but idk how to script.. thats my issue..:(
22:14.46HitMan_dont suppose ide be able to learn to script this overnight...
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22:16.15JeffM2501ide?
22:16.22HitMan_i would*
22:16.27JeffM2501wow
22:16.31JeffM2501yeah probalby
22:16.36JeffM2501it's pretty easy
22:16.39HitMan_it is?
22:16.54JeffM2501it's a text file that starts with a shebang and has your command line in it
22:17.00JeffM2501then you set some permision on it it make it executable
22:17.22HitMan_wow.. so i understood the executable and text file.. can ya tell im a noob?
22:17.23JeffM2501#!/bin/bash
22:17.30HitMan_?
22:17.32JeffM2501bzfs -whatever -you -type
22:18.01JeffM2501then do chmod +x whatever.the.file.is.named
22:18.13JeffM2501then you just run that file name instead of bzfs
22:18.28JeffM2501and it'll run bzfs with those paramaters
22:18.42JeffM2501heck at that point you could probalby double click it
22:19.26HitMan_whoa...waiiiit so wait... i type the #!/bin/bash in text file with the bzfs path and the -conf line  and idk what i do wht chmod..??
22:19.37HitMan_with*
22:19.39JeffM2501make a text file
22:19.46JeffM2501with the first line as the ! part
22:19.50JeffM2501the second line is your bzflag command
22:19.52JeffM2501or commands
22:20.02JeffM2501whatever you normal have on the command line
22:20.08JeffM2501then SAVE that file
22:20.16JeffM2501then open a terminal
22:20.25JeffM2501type chmod +x and drag the file into the terminal
22:20.32AHAthis is my startserver script:
22:20.33AHA#!/bin/bash
22:20.33AHAbzfs -conf /bzflag/servers/bzpro/5154/conf/conf.conf >> /bzflag/servers/bzpro/5154/logs/logs.txt &
22:20.34JeffM2501that will add the path to the file after the x
22:20.39JeffM2501make sure there is a space
22:20.44JeffM2501then hit enter
22:20.50AHAi named that startserver.txt
22:20.51JeffM2501that text file will now be your start script
22:20.59JeffM2501yeah that' does a redirect for loging
22:21.07HitMan_so i could double click that and itl auto start it.. i like that..
22:21.07JeffM2501not something I'd recomend for you
22:21.13JeffM2501HitMan_, probably
22:21.23JeffM2501I don't own a mac anymore so I'm just going off of memory
22:21.38HitMan_you owned one?
22:21.39AHAyou may have to run it through terminal
22:21.40HitMan_wich?
22:21.45JeffM2501I have owned many in the past
22:21.47JeffM2501the last was a mini
22:21.59JeffM2501the first was a performa 600 CD
22:21.59HitMan_i own a mini its what im talking to you on now.
22:22.04AHAcool
22:22.04JeffM2501fun
22:22.17HitMan_and the macbook runs the server
22:22.35AHAHitMan_, did you get that script working?
22:23.19HitMan_havent done it yet give me a sec. brb i have a phone call. wont be long.
22:24.59HitMan_k back let me go to a text file here and ill scroll up.
22:25.21JeffM2501we don't need a play by play
22:31.03HitMan_if it worked what will happen?
22:31.23JeffM2501it'll run the server when you execute the file
22:31.52HitMan_syntax error near unexpected token
22:32.51HitMan_is what it says
22:33.11JeffM2501pastebin your file
22:33.23HitMan_k.
22:34.49HitMan_www.pastebin.com/m3bfc26ed
22:35.02HitMan_work?
22:35.20JeffM2501no
22:35.33AHAhttp://pastebin.com/m3bfc26ed is the pastebin
22:35.35JeffM2501use  http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/
22:35.57AHAits #!/bin/bash
22:35.58AHAnot #!/bin/bash/
22:36.03AHAand yes, that matters
22:36.10JeffM2501yeah
22:36.12JeffM2501bash isn't a dir
22:36.34JeffM2501you have a bad shebang
22:37.00HitMan_take last slash out?
22:37.03AHAyes
22:37.04AHA#!/bin/bash
22:37.05JeffM2501yes
22:37.14JeffM2501make it match the text we showed you, twice
22:38.40HitMan_this is what im getting
22:39.45HitMan_sent it to the pastebin
22:40.07JeffM2501what one?
22:40.11JeffM2501we can't read your screen
22:40.26HitMan_pastebin.bzflag.bz
22:40.37JeffM2501what is the number AFTER it
22:40.40JeffM2501copy and paste the URL
22:40.49AHAhttp://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m726991c5
22:40.55HitMan_kinda hard when its on a dif computer..lol
22:40.57AHAHitMan_, yes, that's right
22:41.07HitMan_how do i run it?
22:41.08JeffM2501except that it's an RTF document
22:41.11JeffM2501NOT a text file
22:41.13JeffM2501and will not work
22:41.16JeffM2501make a text file
22:41.17AHAJeffM2501, it should
22:41.22HitMan_needs to be text?
22:41.26JeffM2501AHA it'll put formating info infront of it
22:41.33JeffM2501and won't start with the right stuff
22:41.38AHAoh
22:41.53AHAHitMan_, it doesn't even need an extention
22:42.06AHAbut .txt would be the best one if you do want to use one
22:43.02HitMan_so redo the chmod?
22:44.00AHAyes
22:44.10AHAchmod +X /Users/paramorefan08/Desktop/startserver.txt
22:44.31HitMan_i did the txt but on the document it self it says rtf still.
22:44.36HitMan_but the at the end its .txt
22:44.52AHAopen up a text editor
22:44.59AHAand save it as a txt file
22:45.04AHAdont just rename it
22:45.18HitMan_i cant theres no .txt to save it as just html and sum word thing.
22:45.33AHAwhat text editer are you using?
22:45.50HitMan_text edit for mac.
22:46.03AHAis there an "all files" option?
22:46.10Winnyget a better text editor
22:46.12Winnylike smultron
22:46.36AHAHitMan_, go here
22:46.36AHAhttp://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m4c92777f
22:46.39AHAand hit "download"
22:46.55AHAthen rename it to: startserver.txt
22:47.41JeffM2501the permision will need to be reset probably
22:47.48JeffM2501as web don't make stuff excutable
22:49.06HitMan_what  do you mean.
22:49.47AHAyou will need to run: chmod +X startserver.txt again
22:49.47HitMan_yup says permission denied
22:49.56AHAsudo chmod +X startserver.txt
22:50.01AHAthen enter your password
22:50.12HitMan_password fooor?
22:50.58AHAdid it prompt you for a password?
22:51.13HitMan_no
22:52.48HitMan_says -bash path/to/startserver.txt permission denied
22:52.58AHAtype this into a terminal window:
22:53.02AHAsudo chmod +X startserver.txt
22:54.21HitMan_what password am i entering my system wide one?
22:54.41AHAyes
22:54.57HitMan_i dont have one cuz noone uses my system.. so im guessing just press enter.
22:55.19AHAyou dont have any password related to your account?
22:55.26AHAif that's true, hit enter, i guess
22:55.31HitMan_on my mac user account.
22:55.32HitMan_no
22:55.40HitMan_and now?
22:56.14HitMan_when i drag that txt file to the terminal and press enter it says permison denied still
22:57.52HitMan_so now im still stuck.
23:00.47AHAtry
23:00.53AHAsudo chmod +rwx startserver.txt
23:01.26HitMan_enter pass again ill just press enter
23:01.51AHAI have dinner now, if you ask nicely, I'm sure someone else will be happy to help you
23:01.57AHAs/,/./
23:02.15HitMan_thank you.
23:04.55donny_bakerme1: I tested it that way on my server before posting it and my password was not said outloud... not in the logs at all
23:05.09me1hmm
23:05.14me1it always does it that way for me
23:05.31HitMan_hey donny..
23:05.41HitMan_im haveing sum trouble could you help me.
23:06.15donny_bakersure.. dinner isn't ready yet... whats up
23:06.54HitMan_well if you over read the convo me and jef and aha were haveing i couldnt get the #!/bash/bin file with the commands to work as a executable.
23:06.55donny_bakerah, a mac problem... i have one but am no expret
23:07.12donny_bakerreading up
23:07.53donny_bakeralso, I run almost all of the LouMan servers and he always releases tham on the forums, so they are available to you
23:08.32HitMan_o0oo they are?
23:10.00JeffM2501do you still have the file open in the text editor?
23:10.16HitMan_i have it open in my text editor text edit.
23:10.17HitMan_yes
23:10.26HitMan_the one AHA gave me.
23:10.33JeffM2501close it
23:10.39JeffM2501then do the chmod
23:10.43JeffM2501it can't mod a file that is open
23:10.48HitMan_k.
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23:11.49HitMan_grrrrrrrr
23:11.54HitMan_permission denied....
23:11.59JeffM2501where is the file?
23:12.05HitMan_desktop
23:12.23JeffM2501type cd into the terminal, drag the file
23:12.34JeffM2501then before you hit delete backspace to the last /
23:12.37JeffM2501then hit enter
23:12.54HitMan_before i hit delete???
23:12.55JeffM2501then do chmod -x and the name of the file
23:13.09JeffM2501delete the file name from the drag before you hit enter
23:13.09donny_bakerthat is so you are in the directory that the file is in...
23:13.21donny_bakerand then the chmod will work
23:13.32donny_baker*should*
23:13.41HitMan_whoa.. guys im so lost.. lol i type cd then what?
23:13.57JeffM2501type cd
23:14.01JeffM2501then hit the space bar
23:14.13JeffM2501then drag the file into the terminal
23:14.31JeffM2501then use the backspace key to delete the name of the file back to the LAST / character
23:14.37JeffM2501then hit enter
23:14.46JeffM2501then type chmod -x and the name of the file
23:14.57JeffM2501and hit enter
23:16.04HitMan_chmodit just cycled down to the next line.
23:16.09JeffM2501good
23:16.09HitMan_after that.
23:16.11JeffM2501then it worked
23:16.17HitMan_how do i know?
23:16.22JeffM2501now type ./ and the name of the file
23:16.26JeffM2501and hit enter
23:16.27AHAit didn't give you an error
23:16.31AHAthats how you know it worked
23:17.06HitMan_lol -bash /startserver.txt permission denied
23:17.27JeffM2501type this sh ./startserver.txt
23:18.07HitMan_you rock lol
23:18.13JeffM2501hmm
23:18.16JeffM2501that's not good
23:18.17JeffM2501but ok
23:18.17HitMan_worked.
23:18.21JeffM2501man do macs suck
23:18.24AHAlol
23:18.31HitMan_lol they are hard to work with.
23:18.52HitMan_so wait should that not of worked?
23:19.29AHAit should have worked when you typed ./startserver.txt
23:19.42JeffM2501type chmod +X ./startserver.txt
23:20.05JeffM2501then type ./startserver.txt
23:21.25HitMan_said ./startserver.txt no such file or dir
23:21.49JeffM2501did you close and reopen the terminal?
23:22.01HitMan_yup
23:22.05JeffM2501that's the problem
23:23.50JeffM2501don't do that
23:23.50JeffM2501do the cd part again
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23:24.00HitMan_k now?
23:24.37JeffM2501now do the 2 lines I said to do
23:24.55HitMan_after the first line do i press enter?
23:25.07JeffM2501yes
23:26.10HitMan_-bash ./startserver.txt permission denied
23:26.22JeffM2501after what?
23:26.34HitMan_after the second line
23:26.37JeffM2501k
23:26.39JeffM2501one sec
23:26.44JeffM2501type this
23:26.56JeffM2501mv ./startserver.txt ./startserver.sh
23:27.04HitMan_all in one?
23:27.05JeffM2501then try the second line again
23:27.06JeffM2501yeah
23:27.55HitMan_it moved the file on the desktop and put the word shell across it trying second line now
23:28.06JeffM2501good
23:28.37HitMan_its been renamed
23:28.41HitMan_to startserver.sh
23:28.51HitMan_soo what do i type??
23:28.52JeffM2501yeah use .sh instead of txt from now on
23:29.02HitMan_cuz i did txt firt said denied
23:29.06HitMan_fisrt*
23:29.13HitMan_wth..
23:29.15HitMan_first*
23:29.19JeffM2501use .sh
23:29.37HitMan_lol okay ready for this?
23:29.48HitMan_-bash ./startserver.sh permission denied
23:29.51JeffM2501lk
23:30.05JeffM2501chmod +rwx ./startserver.sh
23:30.54HitMan_k?
23:31.01JeffM2501now try the ./ line again
23:31.09JeffM2501if that dosn't work, your mac prety much sucks
23:31.45HitMan_lol new message
23:31.48HitMan_lil bit longer
23:31.50HitMan_want it?
23:31.54JeffM2501sure
23:32.52HitMan_-bash ./startserver.sh: /bin/bash^m: bad interpreter: no such file or dir
23:33.08JeffM2501ahh
23:33.25HitMan_fun stuff eh?
23:33.40JeffM2501type locate bash
23:33.42JeffM2501and hit enter
23:34.01HitMan_o0oo lots of green letters
23:34.05HitMan_and words
23:36.30HitMan_so..
23:38.35donny_bakerhmm... JeffM2501 notice the ^m... dos line endings?
23:39.04HitMan_its a capital m btw.. sorry..
23:39.26HitMan_least it looks it but i could be wrong it is a m tho.
23:40.11donny_bakeryeah.. it is a ^M.. I suspect the file has the wrong line endings
23:40.35donny_bakerand that will mess up the interpreter, and if it is wrong line endings it would be ^M
23:41.50donny_bakerok... lets try this and you MUST do EXACTLY as i say
23:42.02donny_bakertype this:
23:42.14donny_bakervi ./starserver.sh
23:42.51HitMan_whoa..
23:42.52donny_bakerthat should open the file in your command shell
23:42.54HitMan_what did that do..
23:43.07HitMan_yeah it did
23:43.19donny_bakerso do you see you text file now.. with ^M at the end of each line?
23:43.41HitMan_no..
23:44.10donny_bakerdo you see the file text at least?
23:44.15HitMan_yes i do.
23:45.14donny_bakeroh type:
23:45.38donny_baker:%s/\r/\r/g
23:45.58HitMan_whoa... wer? its got the line at the top and if i type it over laps stuff.
23:46.17donny_bakeryou didn't type the :
23:46.18HitMan_i cant space or enter or anything
23:46.27HitMan_lol
23:46.28HitMan_thanks
23:46.29HitMan_lol
23:47.59HitMan_rawr hang on
23:48.26HitMan_and press enter?
23:48.31donny_bakeryes
23:48.50HitMan_e486 pattern not found
23:48.54HitMan_maybe i enterd it wrong??
23:48.56donny_bakerhmm
23:49.10donny_bakerok type this
23:49.12donny_baker:q!
23:49.23donny_bakerand hit enter
23:49.32HitMan_k got a bunch of stuff
23:49.51donny_bakeryou should be back at the command prompt now
23:49.56HitMan_yup
23:50.10donny_bakerok that didn't work or wasnt it...
23:50.21HitMan_huh?
23:50.39donny_bakerwe were unsuccessful doing it that way
23:51.27donny_bakerguys does mac have dos2unix ?
23:51.48*** join/#bzchat ahs3- (n=alvin@adsl-065-005-193-158.sip.rdu.bellsouth.net)
23:53.40Winnyare you hitting ctrl+c before you try again?
23:53.50HitMan_huh?
23:54.28CBGRe: chat 90 mins ago... In OS X, you don't need "#!/bin/bash" at the start of the file if you name it as something.command :)
23:54.57HitMan_wait.
23:55.26HitMan_you mean if i name the text file startserver.command with the command in the text file with out the bin bash stuff itl work?
23:58.35CBGRe: chat 70 mins ago... Smultron never helped me accomplish anything. Swicth between txt and rtf in Text Edit (the best text editor ever) with +Shift+T.

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