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| 03:39.06 | asdam | Hello? |
| 03:39.42 | asdam | Is anybody here? |
| 03:39.51 | blast007 | hi |
| 03:39.58 | asdam | Hi. |
| 03:40.03 | blast007 | what can we help you with? |
| 03:40.24 | asdam | How do I register my username, to recognized in-game? |
| 03:40.50 | blast007 | register on the forum and use that username and password in the Join Menu of the game (callsign and password) |
| 03:41.08 | blast007 | the forum is at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 03:41.19 | blast007 | but you might already know that, since you've found our web chat |
| 03:41.27 | asdam | Okay. That's all I needed to know. Thanks! |
| 03:41.34 | blast007 | no problem, have fun |
| 03:42.14 | asdam | See you on BZFlag! I'll doubtlessly be getting whipped! |
| 03:42.21 | blast007 | hehe ;D |
| 03:42.26 | asdam | hehe |
| 03:42.31 | asdam | Cya |
| 03:42.33 | blast007 | bye |
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| 15:55.29 | big_daddy2 | hi |
| 15:55.34 | blast007 | hi |
| 15:55.40 | big_daddy2 | i have a quick q |
| 15:55.49 | big_daddy2 | is there a way to run 2 bzflag servers on linux? |
| 15:55.53 | blast007 | sure |
| 15:55.57 | blast007 | same way you can on any OS |
| 15:56.05 | blast007 | make it run on a different port with -p |
| 15:56.08 | big_daddy2 | when i try to do the other it says one is already up |
| 15:56.11 | big_daddy2 | i did |
| 15:56.21 | blast007 | you sure? |
| 15:56.24 | big_daddy2 | yep |
| 15:56.32 | blast007 | what port did you use for the second one? |
| 15:56.39 | big_daddy2 | 5174 |
| 15:56.53 | blast007 | so bzfs -p 5174 fails? |
| 15:57.06 | big_daddy2 | even just plain bzfs fails |
| 15:57.10 | blast007 | right... |
| 15:57.17 | blast007 | you have to give it a port for the second one |
| 15:57.23 | big_daddy2 | i did tho |
| 15:57.39 | blast007 | try running JUST 'bzfs -p 5174' |
| 15:58.07 | big_daddy2 | ok |
| 15:58.55 | big_daddy2 | ok u can shoot me now, lmao |
| 15:59.03 | big_daddy2 | thx for that |
| 15:59.06 | blast007 | np |
| 15:59.12 | blast007 | make sure to update -publicaddr too |
| 15:59.13 | big_daddy2 | idk why it wont work when i do -publicaddr |
| 15:59.21 | big_daddy2 | o so i gota have both? |
| 15:59.23 | blast007 | it needs to have the right port in there to advertise to the list |
| 15:59.24 | blast007 | yeah |
| 15:59.26 | big_daddy2 | o |
| 15:59.29 | blast007 | -p sets what port you use locally |
| 15:59.32 | big_daddy2 | sry, i quit for like 2 years |
| 15:59.43 | big_daddy2 | well thx, ill be on my way |
| 15:59.44 | blast007 | the one in -publicaddr tells the outside world what port to use |
| 15:59.53 | blast007 | (since they can be different) |
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| 18:02.48 | big_daddy2 | hi |
| 18:03.16 | Constitution | hi |
| 18:03.27 | big_daddy2 | one quick q, if i make a teleporter split into 3 other ones, will it be random? |
| 18:04.16 | Constitution | how do you "split" a teleporter? |
| 18:04.25 | big_daddy2 | like put links from one to 3 others |
| 18:04.43 | Constitution | try it |
| 18:04.53 | big_daddy2 | ooooooo k |
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| 19:12.45 | AHA | Constitution, would it be random? |
| 19:12.57 | AHA | wants to know :P |
| 19:16.34 | Constitution | if I knew, I would have told him :) |
| 19:17.01 | Constitution | I didn't know you can specify multiple links for one teleporter |
| 19:17.56 | JeffM | I bleive it's random |
| 19:18.01 | JeffM | try it and see |
| 19:22.52 | TD-Linux | you can use wildcards and it will be random |
| 19:23.11 | TD-Linux | so I imagine multiple to/from lines would do the same thing |
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| 20:31.03 | AAA_awright | TD-Linux: Do you know where this image came from? http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=144370 |
| 20:31.32 | Constitution | AAA_awright: he answered that question yesterday |
| 20:31.35 | TD-Linux | AAA_awright, it's a 3d redering |
| 20:31.38 | TD-Linux | I made it in wings3d |
| 20:31.39 | AAA_awright | I didn't see |
| 20:31.42 | TD-Linux | and poveray |
| 20:31.49 | Winny | ew povray |
| 20:31.49 | TD-Linux | I can't spell :( |
| 20:31.54 | Winny | use a real renderer |
| 20:32.00 | TD-Linux | povray = win |
| 20:32.01 | AAA_awright | Pov-ray is a real render! |
| 20:32.06 | TD-Linux | I even scripted an animated one in povray |
| 20:32.08 | AAA_awright | ^ ditto |
| 20:32.10 | TD-Linux | want the sources? |
| 20:32.17 | AAA_awright | Sure :) |
| 20:32.26 | Winny | indigo ftw |
| 20:32.27 | TD-Linux | how about I email / pm them to you later? |
| 20:32.34 | TD-Linux | I'll have to pull out my backup drive |
| 20:32.37 | AAA_awright | sure |
| 20:32.46 | TD-Linux | indogo is a toy renderer |
| 20:32.56 | Winny | no it's not |
| 20:33.57 | TD-Linux | Winny, it's a closed source non-commercial Windows-only renderer that doesn't support render farms yet takes 8 hours to make a single frame look decent :P |
| 20:34.19 | Winny | uh... it runs on linux it supports renderfarms... |
| 20:34.28 | TD-Linux | and makes pictures that look no better than what a real renderer puts out with appropriate settings |
| 20:34.40 | TD-Linux | Winny, oh, I guess it's progressed some since last time I looked at it |
| 20:34.48 | TD-Linux | but I still don't like it :P |
| 20:34.57 | Winny | it's supported renderfarms for years |
| 20:35.00 | TD-Linux | though I tend to use 3d for animations, not stills |
| 20:35.11 | TD-Linux | Winny, it's been years :P |
| 20:35.17 | Winny | heh |
| 20:35.18 | TD-Linux | so my opinion is biased :P |
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| 20:41.31 | flying_popcorn | does anyone know if its possible to check if someone's F5ing with a plugin |
| 20:41.50 | flying_popcorn | i looked at all the plugin events but cant find anything like "screenshotTaken" |
| 20:42.02 | Winny | 2.0.10 shows it in the console |
| 20:42.14 | flying_popcorn | i know that |
| 20:42.28 | flying_popcorn | i was trying to make something that auto kicks if you f5 too much |
| 20:42.29 | donny_baker | i thought it was 2.0.8+ |
| 20:42.38 | Constitution | if there's a pause event in the API, register a handler for it |
| 20:42.40 | Winny | IIRC it was in 2.0.9, but not 2.0.8 |
| 20:42.47 | donny_baker | ah maybe |
| 20:43.16 | Constitution | I think bloodbath had such a device once... I believe it was a couple of bzadmins, though |
| 20:43.25 | flying_popcorn | bz_ePlayerPausedEvent |
| 20:43.29 | flying_popcorn | would that work? |
| 20:43.33 | Constitution | yep |
| 20:43.49 | flying_popcorn | ok thanks :-) |
| 20:43.56 | Constitution | just make sure you account for pauses that are actually pauses |
| 20:44.08 | donny_baker | try it.. might want to time how long they were paued... or make is so many times in a given time period |
| 20:44.52 | flying_popcorn | i was only going to make it kick if you f5'd over x times in x minutes. so real screenshots and real pausing shouldnyt be a problem |
| 20:45.17 | Constitution | yeah 2 pauses in less than 5 seconds should be a good indicator of an F5 |
| 20:45.27 | TD-Linux | flying_popcorn, it would be a good idea to notify admins via a messages too |
| 20:45.35 | TD-Linux | at some point before the automatic kick/ban |
| 20:45.41 | JeffM | you can see that if you are observing |
| 20:45.53 | JeffM | but there is no "screenshot" message |
| 20:46.03 | flying_popcorn | you can alreadys see the "has paused" "has unpaused" |
| 20:46.11 | JeffM | then there you go |
| 20:47.00 | TD-Linux | Constitution, that's not a great idea... first off you don't f5 twice in a row very often if you use it for cheating, and second of all I would guess many people might take several successive screenshots if they are trying to capture an event at just the right moment |
| 20:47.23 | TD-Linux | so maybe number of f5's over a time span like 3-5 minutes |
| 20:47.29 | JeffM | TD-Linux, code it up |
| 20:47.31 | JeffM | ;) |
| 20:47.34 | flying_popcorn | i'd have it so they'd have to do it several times before it kicks or anything |
| 20:47.43 | TD-Linux | flying_popcorn already is, I'm just taking advantage of it |
| 20:47.55 | JeffM | good thing it was all made threaded in trunk :) |
| 20:48.13 | Constitution | TD-Linux: I wouldn't know, I haven't practiced the art of F5ing :) |
| 20:48.14 | flying_popcorn | im just going to try it, not sure i'll actually make it, tdlinux :) |
| 20:48.26 | Constitution | but I thought a single F5 wouldn't have much of an affect |
| 20:48.34 | Constitution | *effect |
| 20:48.50 | flying_popcorn | one f5 at the right time can send you through a wall |
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| 20:53.02 | flying_popcorn | bye |
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| 21:19.07 | flying_popcorn | hi again :D |
| 21:19.59 | flying_popcorn | umm, does anyone know the variable in bz_ePlayerPausedEvent that gives the ID of the person who paused |
| 21:20.12 | flying_popcorn | no info on wiki :| |
| 21:20.25 | JeffM | it just returns a playerIndex right? |
| 21:20.42 | JeffM | you can get the player info by getting the player record for the index |
| 21:20.54 | flying_popcorn | ok, how would i do that? |
| 21:21.06 | flying_popcorn | i've only used killerID from the death event |
| 21:21.16 | JeffM | what did you do with it? |
| 21:21.39 | flying_popcorn | i used it in a different plugin |
| 21:22.06 | JeffM | wait, what you asking? how to get the player ID of the pauser? |
| 21:22.11 | flying_popcorn | Yes |
| 21:22.33 | JeffM | bz_PlayerPausedEventData |
| 21:22.53 | flying_popcorn | yes i have that |
| 21:23.08 | JeffM | you see the item in it called "player"? |
| 21:23.30 | flying_popcorn | so i do bz_PlayerPausedEventData->player? |
| 21:23.42 | JeffM | no |
| 21:23.58 | JeffM | in your other plugin how did you get the killerID out of the death event? |
| 21:24.23 | flying_popcorn | hold on... |
| 21:24.57 | flying_popcorn | i copied it from shockwavedeath |
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| 21:25.13 | JeffM | accessing the items in an event record is the same for anything |
| 21:25.19 | flying_popcorn | bz_PlayerDieEventData *dieData = (bz_PlayerDieEventData*)eventData; if (dieData->killerID |
| 21:25.20 | JeffM | it's basic C++ |
| 21:25.26 | JeffM | bingo |
| 21:25.40 | JeffM | so you have a paused event, not a die event |
| 21:25.44 | flying_popcorn | so i just change killedID to player and change Die to paused? |
| 21:25.46 | JeffM | so just change the pointer types |
| 21:25.51 | JeffM | and use player instead of killerID |
| 21:25.54 | JeffM | yes |
| 21:26.15 | flying_popcorn | Ok Thanks |
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| 21:41.13 | bz19 | what is the command to hide an object that can kill u |
| 21:41.20 | bz19 | isnt it hidedeath? |
| 21:43.01 | bz19 | helwo? |
| 21:43.42 | JeffM | huh? |
| 21:44.09 | JeffM | you want to make an object that has a death driver invisible on radar? |
| 21:46.04 | JeffM | or just invisible on screen? |
| 22:08.58 | bz19 | radar |
| 22:09.21 | JeffM | I don't belive that is possible |
| 22:09.29 | bz19 | ive done it be4 |
| 22:09.32 | bz19 | i forgot tho |
| 22:09.46 | JeffM | I don't see anything in the radar rendering code that would make it not draw |
| 22:09.52 | bz19 | i believe it is hidephydrv |
| 22:10.07 | Winny | "noradar" hides an object |
| 22:10.12 | bz19 | thats it |
| 22:10.14 | bz19 | thx |
| 22:10.23 | JeffM | yeah that just hides the entire object |
| 22:10.28 | JeffM | has nothing to do with drivers |
| 22:15.33 | bz19 | ok for some reason when i jump on a top of a meshbox that is drive thru able it stops me in it and i cant move |
| 22:16.06 | JeffM | odd |
| 22:19.06 | bz19 | pardon but wasnt there a way to fix the box to meshbox glitch, of how you cannot move by going for box to meshbox |
| 22:19.24 | JeffM | if it's drive thru it should not be affected by that issue |
| 22:19.42 | JeffM | for soldi box to meshbox you make them not be the same height |
| 22:19.48 | JeffM | or make the box a meshbox |
| 22:43.13 | bz19 | i forgot what u do for texcoors, isnt it 1 0 1 0? |
| 22:43.20 | bz19 | on a mesh |
| 22:43.31 | bz19 | an order of 1's and 0's |
| 22:43.51 | bz19 | or is it the vertice points |
| 22:43.54 | bz19 | like 0 1 2 3 |
| 22:47.20 | bz19 | cause i forgot |
| 22:50.23 | JeffM | they are indexes into the texture coord list, just like verts |
| 22:50.42 | JeffM | they define the UV coordinates for each conern of a face |
| 22:50.45 | JeffM | corner |
| 22:52.13 | bz19 | so if i have 4 corners i made 4, but what are the numbers that go in them |
| 22:54.39 | bz19 | nvm i got it |
| 22:54.44 | bz19 | thx jeff |
| 22:55.11 | bz19 | im done makin my map now, i got the info from my oldest map BIGDADY2'S BATTLE FRONT |
| 22:55.19 | bz19 | yep im back |
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| 23:56.51 | flying_popcorn | does anyone know what bzID in this function is? BZF_API bool bz_IDBanUser ( int playerIndex, const char* bzID , int duration, const char *reason ); |
| 23:58.12 | flying_popcorn | i also tried the ip ban function but it gave me this error: cannot convert 'bzApiString' to 'const char*' for argument '2' to 'bool bz_IPBanUser(int, const char*, int, const char*)' |