| 00:03.19 | AHA | well |
| 00:03.29 | AHA | if it's a class, then you do .authHeader |
| 00:03.36 | AAA_awright | you can use #FFF as a shortcut for #FFFF |
| 00:03.37 | AHA | ifs its an ID, you do #authHeader |
| 00:03.38 | AAA_awright | er |
| 00:03.44 | AAA_awright | #FFFFFF |
| 00:04.22 | JeffM | what's the diff between an ID and a class? |
| 00:04.48 | JeffM | just if it uses id = or class = ? |
| 00:05.00 | Winny | ID should only be used once, class can be applied to multiple elements |
| 00:05.15 | Winny | and you can apply more then one class to an object, don't think you can do that with an ID |
| 00:05.48 | TD-Linux | example: pictureframe would be a class, top banner could be an id |
| 00:05.59 | TD-Linux | most common feature is applying a class and an id |
| 00:07.24 | JeffM | is class = "" valid? |
| 00:07.30 | AAA_awright | yes |
| 00:07.53 | AAA_awright | You can specify multiple classes separated by spaces as well |
| 00:08.08 | JeffM | I just need one |
| 00:10.05 | Winny | JeffM: why use class="" if you don't need a class? |
| 00:10.17 | Winny | just leave out the class declaration and specify an id |
| 00:10.54 | spldart | Having fun here http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb248/Pogovina/Hurricane%20Ike/maple2.jpg Just happened. |
| 00:11.06 | TD-Linux | probably simpler for his server-side scripting :P |
| 00:11.10 | spldart | smaller branches all over the front yard |
| 00:11.14 | JeffM | Winny, I'm not actualy doing pure HTML |
| 00:11.19 | JeffM | it's part of a template system |
| 00:11.27 | JeffM | TD-Linux, yeah |
| 00:11.29 | Winny | ah |
| 00:11.32 | JeffM | except it's not scripting |
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| 02:00.45 | Constitution | hi Quantum_tank |
| 02:01.35 | play_chess | hi |
| 02:04.57 | Constitution | match? |
| 02:05.15 | play_chess | nah |
| 02:28.56 | Quantum_tank | hi const |
| 02:31.30 | Constitution | hi :) |
| 02:44.15 | spldart | Probably gonnna lose power soon... Prolly wont get it back any time soon. If so cyah :) |
| 02:45.18 | Think_Differentl | good luck spldart |
| 02:45.37 | Quantum_tank | bye |
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| 06:20.06 | JeffMMain | ok, so how in a css do I make the links not have underlines and be white? |
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| 17:41.42 | colorado3855 | hi |
| 17:42.12 | JeffM | hello |
| 17:45.12 | AHA | <JeffMMain> ok, so how in a css do I make the links not have underlines and be white?: |
| 17:45.13 | AHA | a { text-decoration: none; color: #ffffff; } |
| 17:45.26 | JeffM | thanks |
| 17:56.12 | JeffM | hmmm, links are still showing as blue |
| 17:56.40 | Winny | JeffM: You probably need to apply it to that element |
| 17:57.03 | JeffM | hmm I have it applied to the table |
| 17:57.03 | Winny | .yourclass a{text-decoration: none; color: #ffffff;} |
| 17:57.11 | JeffM | ahhh |
| 17:57.12 | JeffM | thanks |
| 17:57.20 | Winny | that's seperate from .yourclass{} |
| 17:57.23 | Winny | new element |
| 17:58.31 | JeffM | so like this? http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m1267dd1b |
| 17:58.47 | Winny | yeah |
| 17:59.14 | JeffM | that works, thanks |
| 17:59.32 | JeffM | now to get my cookies workin |
| 17:59.42 | Winny | and if you want to make it do something different on hover, do .className a:hover{} |
| 18:00.02 | Winny | or a:visited for visted links, etc |
| 18:00.17 | JeffM | I'm doing a bzbb type titlebar |
| 18:00.27 | JeffM | with buttons for the various global section |
| 18:00.38 | JeffM | and I change the background based on what section you are in |
| 18:00.51 | JeffM | so I just needed the text to be the same all the time :) |
| 18:00.58 | lol_udied | JeffM: Am I allowed to make a toolbar from a certain software and post it on the forums? |
| 18:01.05 | lol_udied | for download? |
| 18:01.09 | JeffM | is it open source? |
| 18:01.16 | lol_udied | well no |
| 18:01.25 | Winny | lol_udied: If it was like that previous one, then you know rthe anwser |
| 18:01.25 | JeffM | then there is your answer |
| 18:01.34 | JeffM | you may do what ever you wish personaly |
| 18:01.41 | JeffM | but we do not support close source software on the fourms |
| 18:01.47 | lol_udied | So if it was open source then we can talk right? |
| 18:01.54 | JeffM | perhaps |
| 18:02.01 | JeffM | honestly, noone is going to use your toolbar |
| 18:02.16 | JeffM | toolbars are generaly considered rather lame |
| 18:02.24 | lol_udied | well its worth the shot. so far I asked more than 50 people they said they will |
| 18:02.34 | JeffM | I find that VERY hard to belive |
| 18:02.41 | Winny | most of the players use firefox, I imagine, or safari. IE is surprisingly low for FOSS projects. |
| 18:02.52 | lol_udied | well I go on my map and stuff and I use /say and people respond |
| 18:03.08 | JeffM | and that gives you an accurate count of 50? |
| 18:03.11 | JeffM | or are you guessing? |
| 18:03.14 | lol_udied | the toolbar will be only for firefix and internet explorer |
| 18:03.22 | Winny | how do you know it will work for firefox? |
| 18:03.28 | lol_udied | because I spent almost the whole day on bzflag |
| 18:03.31 | lol_udied | asking a lot of poeple |
| 18:03.36 | JeffM | so you are guessing |
| 18:03.39 | Winny | Do you know how to code firefox extensions? |
| 18:04.14 | lol_udied | Winny: I will most likely google a software that builds toolbars and also provides a open source or just try to build one myself |
| 18:04.16 | JeffM | lol_udied: you need to understand how the world works, any of those websites that "make" toolbars for you, are not going to be open source. |
| 18:04.24 | JeffM | because they are going to install mallware |
| 18:04.37 | JeffM | there is 0 money in giving out open toolbars |
| 18:04.41 | lol_udied | well I did see one software that did provide open source but you have to pay |
| 18:04.44 | lol_udied | like 20 bucks |
| 18:04.55 | JeffM | if you pay for it, it will NOT be open source. |
| 18:05.10 | JeffM | basicly what you are doing is helping spread addware and mallware |
| 18:05.17 | Winny | yeah |
| 18:05.28 | lol_udied | ah |
| 18:05.46 | lol_udied | Then ill come back in a few months with a done toolbar made by myself |
| 18:05.59 | lol_udied | but honestly how long did it take you to learn C++? |
| 18:06.01 | JeffM | if you TRUELY want to help the project then go learn some usefull skill and work on a real project, not just quicky fly by night things |
| 18:06.10 | JeffM | lol_udied: 2 weeks |
| 18:06.25 | lol_udied | how long did you spend a day? |
| 18:06.35 | JeffM | not much |
| 18:06.40 | JeffM | I did it while I worked |
| 18:06.41 | Winny | Learning C++ and learning to program are two totally different things |
| 18:06.50 | JeffM | indeed |
| 18:06.55 | lol_udied | I know |
| 18:06.58 | Winny | you could know the syntax inside and out, but you need to learn how to think, how to be logical |
| 18:07.02 | lol_udied | I just want to start learning C++ |
| 18:07.03 | TD-Linux | you can learn both at the same time |
| 18:07.07 | JeffM | then you should |
| 18:07.12 | JeffM | start with the C++ tutorials |
| 18:07.18 | JeffM | or even start with C# |
| 18:07.23 | lol_udied | then final question, do you recommend any good tutorials ? |
| 18:07.25 | JeffM | but don't rush it |
| 18:07.39 | JeffM | there are many tutorials on the internet |
| 18:07.42 | JeffM | just go slow on them |
| 18:07.48 | TD-Linux | when I started with C++ on windows, hardest part was making the compiler work :/ |
| 18:07.49 | JeffM | don't skip them if you don't understand them |
| 18:07.59 | JeffM | TD-Linux: F5 didn't work? |
| 18:08.05 | TD-Linux | on windows, you can get visual studio 2008 express edition |
| 18:08.12 | lol_udied | but any SPECIFIC one that you recommend? |
| 18:08.34 | JeffM | lol_udied: no, the point of it is for you to actualy look around, do research and think for yourself |
| 18:08.36 | JeffM | you can do it |
| 18:08.38 | JeffM | be a big boy |
| 18:08.50 | JeffM | part of programing is learning how to solve problems |
| 18:08.59 | lol_udied | lol I can, but like I said I was just asking for opinons on what you used to learn |
| 18:09.02 | JeffM | finding the info you need would be the first problem |
| 18:09.09 | JeffM | I learned from a book |
| 18:09.16 | JeffM | as the internet didn't really exist back then |
| 18:09.23 | lol_udied | ok |
| 18:09.34 | lol_udied | thanks |
| 18:09.36 | JeffM | I learned C# in a night from some tutorial on the net a while ago |
| 18:18.33 | KTL | with c++ as background knowledge |
| 18:19.29 | KTL | important aspect of working with c++ is: you need to know the important libraries too if you want to actually do anything with it |
| 18:19.35 | KTL | the stl and some boost libs |
| 18:22.50 | JeffM | .net has taken a bit longer, but it's prety cool |
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