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00:15.32flying_popcornblast007: did you find anything wrong with my plugin code last night?
00:15.57CBGYeah... one problem
00:16.01CBGsome idiot wrote it
00:16.56flying_popcorn:(
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00:29.26spldartmmmMMMmmm http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb248/Pogovina/dinner.jpg
00:30.34me1mmmMMMmmm
00:31.57spldart:)
00:32.23flying_popcorn:D
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15:43.58mudgrenadehey
15:44.32mudgrenadei made bzflag using the newest source ... butwhen i start bz it says cannot find fonts? is there a simple solution to this?
15:47.30JeffMyou are on a mac?
15:47.40JeffMor linux?
15:48.29mudgrenademac
15:49.00JeffMif you built from the command line, you need to ether move the executable up to the root of the source tree or use the -directory option to tell it where the data dir is
15:49.31JeffMit usualy looks for the data in the folder layout of the .app, but when you build from the commandline there isn't a .app so you have to tell it where the data is
15:50.19mudgrenadeok so ./bzflag -directory /Users/twgin/Desktop/bzflag/data?
15:50.42JeffMsure
15:50.48mudgrenadeok thx
15:50.49JeffMif that's where the data is
15:52.07mudgrenadeim still getting
15:52.11mudgrenadeCONSTRUCTING FONT MANAGER
15:52.20mudgrenadecannot find fonts
15:52.38JeffMis there a fonts folder in that data dir? and does it have TTF files?
15:52.54mudgrenadeno :P
15:53.09JeffMwhere did you get that folder from?
15:53.20mudgrenadenow it does :P
15:53.21JeffMthe same source tree?
15:53.36JeffMis that the data dir from the source tree? or an old install?
15:53.44mudgrenadeold install
15:53.48JeffMthat won't work
15:53.52mudgrenadegah
15:53.53JeffMthe data dir was changed
15:53.58JeffMuse the one WITH the source
15:54.05mudgrenadeo ok
15:54.19mudgrenadei think i deleted that :(
15:54.31JeffMwhy would you do that?
15:54.37mudgrenadei dont know hold on
15:54.49mudgrenadeill just reopen the .tar and get it
15:54.53JeffMwhat version are you building? 2.0.x or 2.99.x ?
15:55.03mudgrenade2.99
15:55.28JeffMyou do know that is not compatable with 2.0.x servers right?
15:55.32mudgrenadeyeah
15:55.48mudgrenadethats why i got the .app 2.10 also
15:55.50JeffMbut yeah it needs it's own data, it's all different
15:55.56JeffM2.10.x dosn't exist
15:56.04JeffMyou probably mean 2.0.10
15:56.11mudgrenadeyea :P
15:57.09mudgrenadefixed it thanks jef
15:57.16mudgrenadejeff
15:57.26JeffMsure
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17:08.08spldartSeen that new Morgan Stanley commercial? I feel like I'm in bzflag observer mode every time :-\         hehe
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19:06.47spldartGrrr! Another power outtage :(
19:07.23JeffMspldart: you just fix audio stuff right? not video?
19:08.06spldartI work on SOME direct view tube sets and some LCD as well.
19:08.18JeffMI just got a secondhand HD tv
19:08.19JeffMtube
19:08.30spldartIC Brand?
19:08.36JeffMand it's got a green line that zig zags across the screen
19:08.39JeffMphilips
19:08.53JeffMis that something that can be adusted out? or is it just busted?
19:09.18spldartNot the best in quality IMHO.. Do you have a full pic with green line zig zaggin or no pic at all with the zig zag?
19:09.39JeffMthe image is there
19:09.44JeffMthe line is superimposed
19:09.56JeffMwell it was a free TV :)
19:10.18spldartIf the 'screen' adjustment was set to high on the flyback transformer it could make a perfectly symmetrical green line over and over across the screeen top to bottome.. Almost like a candy cane
19:10.33JeffMyes that's kinda what it looks like
19:10.51JeffMI can take a picture if that would help
19:11.03spldartI'd try slowly cranking counter clockwise the 'screen' adjustment on the flyback transformer
19:11.11JeffMthat'd be inside right?
19:11.21spldartIt's the device on the main board with the thick red wire that goes to the top backside of the tube
19:11.22spldartyes
19:11.23spldartinside
19:11.34JeffMok, I'll crack it open one day, thanks
19:11.40spldartoki doki
19:11.48JeffMI need to let my knee rest before I move it again
19:11.52JeffMit went pop
19:11.54spldartif it's not inconvenient a pic could potentially help
19:12.06JeffMI'll get the camera
19:14.40spldartBTW.. when/if you open and tinker with that adjustment don't touch the chassis anywhere and definitly don't touch that tansformer or it's wires... Lots of voltage there ;) Also turn the screen very slowly while watching the pic... turn in the direction it darkens. You may need a mirror if the set is hugely big.
19:15.38spldartYou can however use a metal screwdriver on the screen adjustment. Not chance of shock. BTW it will prolly be paired with a second adj... Focus.. Try not to mess with that unless your pic is blurry after you get screen where you like it.
19:15.50spldarts/not/no
19:15.53JeffMmy closet door is a mirror :)
19:16.01spldartkewlio
19:16.02JeffMI have some work gloves too
19:16.43spldartNot necessary for a technecian but a good precaution for a non pro
19:18.22spldartOh.. And BTW.. A very common failure point for philips 'direct view' sets (tube) is the flyback transformer. If you can't adjust that out then it may be time to dispose of the set or take it to a shop. (most aren't trustworty)
19:18.32spldartI'm running a second hand Philips myself hehe
19:19.18JeffMthis is it with no signal
19:19.19JeffMhttp://www.opencombat.net/tmp/IMG_1108.JPG
19:19.42Think_Differentlwe have a phillips 27 tube hd branded as a magnivox
19:19.59JeffMand you can kinda see it here, with the xbox 360 dashboard up, http://www.opencombat.net/tmp/IMG_1109.JPG
19:20.49spldartCrap yeah! Turn that screen down
19:21.05JeffMok
19:21.12spldartstill waiting for you rsecond image to load up
19:21.22JeffMis there any way I can get a diagram of what's inside so I know what I'm looking for?
19:21.22spldartinet here has been SUCKING after the hurricane
19:21.59spldartLike I said ealier.. it can be easily identified by that special wire that travels up to the top back of the tube.. Looks like a plunger on the end
19:22.05JeffMok
19:22.19JeffMwhat pisses me off the most is.
19:22.28JeffMso I manly man the TV UPSTAIRS
19:22.30JeffMby myself
19:22.41JeffMmove the old HUGE 36 inch tube off the stand
19:22.49JeffMget this one put up on the stand
19:22.51JeffMno issues
19:23.03JeffMI reach behind it to plug in a cable.. knee pops
19:23.08spldartAh
19:23.18JeffMi'm like WTF.. it's a CABLE
19:23.18spldartThat kind of pop that lingers for days right?
19:23.33JeffMI won't be able to put much weight on it for a couple days
19:23.45spldartI know just the pop
19:25.07JeffMyeah the one where you pray that it's not a torn ACL
19:25.52spldartThe second pic seems to close to give me any detail other than the pixels :p Anywho... Let me know what you get. I'm gonna sit down to a MRE.
19:30.13JeffMheh, have fun
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23:26.53spldartHrm.. JeffM's retrace line problem, indicitive of a over cranked screen, seems to have a pincushion problem as well.
23:27.12spldartis concerned that his flyback transformer is indeed defective.
23:27.28spldartA common problem in philips, and rca sets
23:27.59spldartnow passes out... maybe

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