| 00:00.09 | Danjji | it brings up some page that says:your are downloading from a unknown publishers |
| 00:00.22 | JeffM | ok |
| 00:00.25 | JeffM | where do you see this |
| 00:00.28 | JeffM | cus that ain't in game |
| 00:00.29 | Danjji | i took this problem up with you ,but i forgot when |
| 00:00.34 | JeffM | what exactly are you doing? |
| 00:00.41 | Danjji | when i tryed to reinstall it |
| 00:00.54 | JeffM | then that has nothing to do with installing |
| 00:00.58 | JeffM | with loging in I mean |
| 00:01.01 | JeffM | do you have the game installed? |
| 00:01.02 | Danjji | tried "run as administrator"already |
| 00:01.10 | JeffM | ok, so you can't even install? |
| 00:01.12 | Danjji | yes its installed |
| 00:01.19 | JeffM | what happens when you run it? |
| 00:01.34 | Danjji | it says:"unknown publisher" |
| 00:01.48 | JeffM | when you click on what file? |
| 00:01.57 | Danjji | and my firewall keeps poping up |
| 00:02.04 | Danjji | bzflag file |
| 00:02.16 | JeffM | what file? |
| 00:02.27 | Danjji | as in file? : ) |
| 00:02.28 | JeffM | what is the EXACT name of the file you are double clicking |
| 00:02.33 | JeffM | yes what is it's EXACT name |
| 00:02.48 | Danjji | can i have time to type it up? |
| 00:02.56 | JeffM | sure why not? |
| 00:04.06 | Danjji | it just says bzflag.exe |
| 00:04.11 | me1 | oh, I think the windows firewall is blocking bzflag, and the popup is showing that. That happened when I first installed bzflag. It says "unknown publisher" |
| 00:04.23 | JeffM | and this is the file that was installed? |
| 00:04.26 | JeffM | ahh |
| 00:04.28 | JeffM | probalby |
| 00:04.28 | Danjji | yes |
| 00:04.35 | Danjji | me1 is right |
| 00:04.37 | JeffM | then tell your firewall to allow it |
| 00:04.40 | Abominable | Danjji, are you using windows vista? |
| 00:04.45 | Danjji | nyea |
| 00:05.02 | Abominable | me1 is correct then |
| 00:05.17 | Abominable | When I got my new computer with vista, the firewall blocked it. |
| 00:05.23 | Abominable | Do you know how to un-block it? |
| 00:05.26 | Danjji | see thats the 2nd obstacle i do it but nothing happens |
| 00:05.38 | me1 | yeah, that's what's happening, you need to set windows firewall to allow bzflag. I don't have vista, so I don't know where you set it. It's somewhere in the control panel. (I think under "windows defender, iirc") |
| 00:05.39 | Danjji | Abiminable,i think so |
| 00:05.44 | JeffM | so once you unblock it, what does it do? |
| 00:05.49 | JeffM | does it start?or does it just quit? |
| 00:05.58 | Abominable | If you don't, let me know. |
| 00:06.01 | Danjji | quits |
| 00:06.15 | JeffM | did you set your filewall to allow bzflag every time? |
| 00:06.18 | JeffM | or just that one time? |
| 00:06.33 | Danjji | i dont know how to |
| 00:06.39 | me1 | does it pop up the firewall notice when it quits? because bzflag seems to crash/quit if you iconisize while joining? |
| 00:06.48 | Danjji | wait i think i'll try |
| 00:07.37 | Abominable | Danjji, open windows firewall |
| 00:07.59 | Abominable | Go to Inbound Rules, find where it says "BZFlag" |
| 00:08.29 | Abominable | And leave the chat |
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| 01:12.38 | *** join/#bzchat flying_popcorn (n=4843559c@bz.bzflag.bz) |
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| 01:52.43 | swigg | JeffM: ping |
| 01:52.53 | swigg | or any high lever BzAdmin |
| 01:53.04 | swigg | *level |
| 02:00.15 | swigg | donny_baker: PING |
| 02:01.01 | swigg | we need a Listserv admin |
| 02:02.42 | Abominable | It's been up for hours. |
| 02:03.24 | *** join/#bzchat JeffM (n=JeffM@76.243.140.190) |
| 02:04.08 | Abominable | There's JeffM |
| 02:04.17 | Abominable | Bye bye to sk3s server |
| 02:04.27 | JeffM | ? |
| 02:04.53 | Abominable | JeffM, sk3letr0n has a server on the list |
| 02:05.04 | Abominable | 67.125.156.212 |
| 02:05.22 | JeffM | fun |
| 02:05.32 | flying_popcorn | yeah, he impersonates ppl there too |
| 02:05.43 | JeffM | why would you EVEN go there? |
| 02:05.51 | flying_popcorn | i didn't |
| 02:06.01 | flying_popcorn | i just looked on my.bzflag.org server list |
| 02:06.02 | JeffM | then how do you know? |
| 02:06.06 | JeffM | what he does? |
| 02:06.42 | flying_popcorn | everyone that went there says he can log in as them with a + |
| 02:06.53 | flying_popcorn | oof, i g2g, bbl |
| 02:07.05 | JeffM | + does not nessiarly mean that it was authenticated with us |
| 02:07.17 | JeffM | people should only use servers they trust |
| 02:07.30 | flying_popcorn | yeah, i'm avoiding that server |
| 02:07.41 | flying_popcorn | brb |
| 02:11.32 | JeffM | techincaly that can't even be considred "impersonating" since it's just a server that uses "additonal" authenticaton logic |
| 02:16.49 | Abominable | What it's doing, is when you log in, you're talking "trash" but you're not actually saying anything. |
| 02:17.03 | JeffM | that's /say |
| 02:17.08 | JeffM | simple server change |
| 02:17.14 | JeffM | heck it's probably just a plugin |
| 02:17.22 | JeffM | the API can do all that crap |
| 02:17.23 | Abominable | _you_ are not typing but it shows up User: trash talk |
| 02:17.28 | JeffM | Iknow |
| 02:17.36 | Abominable | I think that's what floppy was trying to say. |
| 02:17.38 | JeffM | still isn't impersonation |
| 02:18.01 | JeffM | the server just dosn't follow the rules |
| 02:18.13 | JeffM | so it can't be compared to standard servers |
| 02:18.21 | Abominable | Of course not. |
| 02:18.44 | JeffM | we really do have too many servers |
| 02:19.31 | Abominable | I can agree, to many maps that are not played, just cluttering the server list. |
| 02:19.51 | JeffM | has plans for that but others do not like them :) |
| 02:20.11 | Abominable | What are you planning to do? |
| 02:20.19 | JeffM | nothing |
| 02:20.24 | Abominable | :P |
| 02:20.25 | AHA | <09JeffM> heck it's probably just a plugin |
| 02:20.25 | JeffM | since others do not like them |
| 02:20.26 | AHA | it is |
| 02:20.37 | AHA | nightmare told me he had a plugin able to do that |
| 02:20.44 | AHA | impersonate other people |
| 02:20.55 | JeffM | it's trivial to code in the API |
| 02:21.28 | *** join/#bzchat flying_popcorn (n=4843559c@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 02:21.31 | JeffM | Abominable, if I had my druthers I'd have 3 tabs on the list server, 1) prefered, 2) normal, 3) unknown |
| 02:21.31 | flying_popcorn | back :) |
| 02:21.33 | Abominable | What I do, is if I host for someone, or a map of my own, if it isn't driving traffic, or isn't played steadily after about 10-15 days, I'll ask the map maker for an update, or just take it down. |
| 02:21.57 | JeffM | perfered would be a list of servers that have registerd orgs with contact info, domain names, use global auth,etc.. |
| 02:22.05 | Abominable | JeffM, Others would hate that because it's "hiding" their server? |
| 02:22.10 | JeffM | normal would be those with domain names, but may not have regiered orgs |
| 02:22.19 | JeffM | and unknown would be the IP baased ones |
| 02:22.30 | JeffM | there are lots of reasons why others dislike it |
| 02:22.44 | JeffM | techincaly it lets us "favor" one server over another |
| 02:23.07 | JeffM | goes home |
| 02:23.13 | Abominable | Take care. |
| 02:23.50 | flying_popcorn | so was sk3l's server going to be removed from the list server? |
| 02:24.18 | Abominable | donny_baker, any news on that? |
| 02:26.01 | me1 | hmm.. idle 5:45 |
| 02:26.13 | flying_popcorn | bye |
| 02:26.13 | me1 | I don't think he knows about this. |
| 02:27.05 | Abominable | me1, we pinged him about it |
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| 02:40.30 | bz86 | umm im back with the bz problem |
| 02:40.58 | bz86 | Jeff M? |
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| 02:48.52 | Abominable | bz86, what is your problem? |
| 02:49.23 | bz86 | its me danji again |
| 02:49.37 | bz86 | going to control panel didnt work |
| 02:50.03 | bz86 | i checked bzflag on allowing to go through firewall but no succes |
| 02:50.17 | Abominable | Open your start bar, type in the search bar |
| 02:50.21 | Abominable | Type "Windows firewall" |
| 02:50.35 | Abominable | When the search is done, click on the windows firewall. |
| 02:50.46 | Abominable | When it opens, click "inbound rules" |
| 02:51.01 | Abominable | Scroll down to bzflag and double click bzflag |
| 02:51.11 | bz86 | doesnt have inbound rules |
| 02:51.15 | Abominable | Under the "general" tab, click allow all connections |
| 02:51.21 | Abominable | And do the same for bzfs |
| 02:51.39 | Abominable | bz86, you are on vista, correct? |
| 02:52.08 | bz86 | yes |
| 02:52.13 | Abominable | You should have it |
| 02:52.34 | Abominable | "Windows firewall" and "Windows firewall with advanced security" should pop up after you search. |
| 02:52.58 | Abominable | Unless you deleted it. |
| 02:53.26 | Abominable | But you enstablished earlier that it is your firewall. |
| 02:53.29 | bz86 | inbound connections are blocked |
| 02:53.42 | Abominable | Allow them |
| 02:53.57 | Abominable | There should be a "Allow all connections" tab |
| 02:54.09 | Abominable | Check it, apply settings when you have done it to bzflag and bzfs. |
| 02:55.02 | bz86 | how do i allow inbound settings? |
| 02:55.52 | Abominable | Double click it |
| 02:56.01 | Abominable | check " Allow all connections" |
| 02:56.18 | Abominable | Apply |
| 02:57.05 | bz86 | ni just did but bzflag isnt coming up |
| 02:58.25 | Abominable | Where there "two" bzflag options when you where in windows firewall? |
| 02:58.49 | bz86 | no 1 |
| 02:59.00 | Abominable | did you allows bxfs as well? |
| 02:59.19 | bz86 | http://my.bzflag.org/irc/irc.cgi |
| 02:59.36 | bz86 | i dont know how to add it its not up there |
| 03:00.19 | Abominable | Did you download the windows version of bzflag? |
| 03:01.10 | bz86 | yes |
| 03:01.25 | blast007 | did you run it? |
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| 03:02.37 | blast007 | Abominable: what vista do you have? |
| 03:03.04 | Abominable | 64-bit |
| 03:03.17 | blast007 | no, which edition... |
| 03:03.34 | JeffM | home premium, biz, or ultimate |
| 03:03.52 | Abominable | Home Premium |
| 03:03.56 | blast007 | k |
| 03:04.24 | blast007 | trying to recall how the firewall looks in Home Prem. |
| 03:04.36 | JeffM | I have home prem |
| 03:04.40 | JeffM | what you want me to look for? |
| 03:04.45 | blast007 | only have access to Enterprise at the moment |
| 03:04.56 | Abominable | I just explained to him what I did when I got bzflag and it didn't work. |
| 03:05.08 | Abominable | It seems he's having a different issue |
| 03:05.15 | blast007 | JeffM: Well, danji (sp?) was back with firewall issues |
| 03:07.42 | *** join/#bzchat bz02 (n=4736f093@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 03:07.43 | JeffM | there is an exceptions tab |
| 03:07.52 | bz02 | back...again.. |
| 03:07.53 | JeffM | and it has an "Add program" button |
| 03:07.55 | JeffM | you use it |
| 03:07.59 | JeffM | or you can just open ports |
| 03:08.13 | bz02 | open ports? |
| 03:08.21 | bz02 | that helps how? |
| 03:08.28 | JeffM | it dosn't |
| 03:08.33 | bz02 | oh |
| 03:08.41 | JeffM | I was simply describing the dialog in the windows firewall to blast007 |
| 03:09.22 | blast007 | so similar to the xp one? |
| 03:09.47 | bz02 | abominable you there? |
| 03:09.58 | JeffM | very |
| 03:10.14 | JeffM | but I mean all I ever did was hit the "always allow" button and it's good |
| 03:10.18 | Abominable | bz02, heading to bed |
| 03:10.22 | JeffM | it never asked me for that exe again |
| 03:10.31 | Abominable | I've explained the best way I can to fix it. |
| 03:10.50 | blast007 | enterprise has the one with "advanced security", which reminds me of the functionality of server 2003's RRAS firewall |
| 03:10.58 | Abominable | I'm sorry if I was un-clear in any way, JeffM or blast007 can most likely help you and better that I can. |
| 03:11.04 | bz02 | what does my network (subnet) mean? |
| 03:11.06 | Abominable | Take care, bz02 |
| 03:11.13 | bz02 | nty |
| 03:11.18 | JeffM | the subnet is the mask for comptuers on your lan |
| 03:11.22 | bz02 | nkidding thank you bud |
| 03:11.33 | bz02 | use to adding the n im a noob |
| 03:12.46 | blast007 | I could probablt help more help, but I'm typing with a stylus. hand going numb :/ |
| 03:13.02 | bz02 | heh |
| 03:13.02 | JeffM | poor litttle nokia |
| 03:13.09 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:13.10 | JeffM | I foudn mine under the seat in my truck |
| 03:13.40 | JeffM | ok, so bz02 you got the firewall controll panell open? |
| 03:15.01 | bz02 | going to right now |
| 03:15.37 | bz02 | ok |
| 03:16.07 | bz02 | i clicked on bzflag twice and the same things keep on happening im gonna try to download it again |
| 03:16.17 | JeffM | just STOP |
| 03:16.31 | bz02 | ok |
| 03:16.32 | JeffM | let me know when you actualy want to listen to what we say rather then randomly trying things and geeting yourself into trouble |
| 03:16.41 | JeffM | come find me then, and we'll talk |
| 03:16.55 | JeffM | untill then you are just wasting everyone's time by constantly downloading |
| 03:17.04 | bz02 | (sigh) |
| 03:17.26 | bz02 | i'll listen then |
| 03:17.39 | JeffM | we keep trying to help you but you ether leave, or download and screwyourself over again |
| 03:17.43 | JeffM | ok, so is bzflag installed? |
| 03:18.01 | bz02 | yes.. |
| 03:18.20 | JeffM | ok, on the firewall controll pannel do you see a blue link that says "change settings"? |
| 03:18.47 | bz02 | yes |
| 03:18.51 | JeffM | click it |
| 03:19.00 | JeffM | it will bring up a window that says "windows firewal settings" |
| 03:19.04 | JeffM | do you see that? |
| 03:19.27 | bz02 | yes |
| 03:19.33 | JeffM | click on the exceptions tab |
| 03:19.45 | JeffM | does it have bzflag anywhere in the list? |
| 03:19.56 | bz02 | ok |
| 03:20.47 | bz02 | .... |
| 03:20.51 | JeffM | does it have bzflag anywhere in the list? |
| 03:21.03 | bz02 | yes |
| 03:21.06 | JeffM | there we go |
| 03:21.18 | JeffM | are the checkboxes next to bzflag checked or unchecked? |
| 03:21.45 | bz02 | checked |
| 03:22.01 | JeffM | ok click the button that says "add program" |
| 03:22.23 | bz02 | yes |
| 03:22.34 | JeffM | go find where you have bzflag installed and pick bzflag.exe |
| 03:22.42 | JeffM | we have to make sure that it's using the right one |
| 03:23.14 | bz02 | i dont see bzflag.exe |
| 03:23.29 | JeffM | hit cancel |
| 03:23.33 | bz02 | oops nevermind i got it |
| 03:23.37 | JeffM | in the list of things, how many items say bzflag? |
| 03:24.08 | bz02 | 1 |
| 03:24.22 | JeffM | select it and hit the button that says properties |
| 03:24.34 | JeffM | what does it say for "path" |
| 03:25.58 | bz02 | C:/program files/bzflag2.0.10/bzflag.exe |
| 03:26.26 | JeffM | ok good |
| 03:26.33 | JeffM | hit the button that says change scope |
| 03:26.47 | JeffM | is the "any computer" item selected? |
| 03:26.48 | bz02 | ok |
| 03:27.00 | bz02 | yes |
| 03:27.06 | JeffM | ok hit OK |
| 03:27.20 | bz02 | finished |
| 03:27.26 | JeffM | then hit OK on "edit a program" |
| 03:27.33 | JeffM | then hit OK on the firewall settings |
| 03:27.39 | JeffM | then run bzflag from the shortcut in the start menu |
| 03:27.47 | JeffM | and tell me if it asks you to unblock it or not |
| 03:28.16 | bz02 | we'll it says nothing |
| 03:29.11 | JeffM | ok good |
| 03:29.24 | JeffM | did it ever flash to a black screen? |
| 03:29.29 | bz02 | nope |
| 03:30.03 | JeffM | what video card do you have? |
| 03:30.16 | bz02 | video card? |
| 03:30.43 | JeffM | video card |
| 03:30.50 | JeffM | your problem is no longer you firewall |
| 03:31.01 | bz02 | oh boy.. |
| 03:31.39 | bz02 | problem is? |
| 03:33.40 | JeffM | and yeah.... |
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| 03:33.53 | Danji | back.. |
| 03:34.19 | JeffM | what video card do you have? |
| 03:34.30 | Danji | what is a video card? |
| 03:34.36 | blast007 | heh |
| 03:34.42 | JeffM | the thing that draws your graphics |
| 03:35.02 | JeffM | basicly you probably don't have the current drivers for your video card |
| 03:35.26 | Danji | oh |
| 03:35.36 | Danji | so just quit bz or what? |
| 03:35.53 | JeffM | no |
| 03:35.58 | JeffM | who set up your comptuer for you? |
| 03:36.04 | Danji | cousin |
| 03:36.19 | JeffM | have them help you get updated video drivers |
| 03:36.35 | Danji | yes i live in fort myers |
| 03:36.44 | Danji | nhe lives in lee high acres |
| 03:36.56 | Danji | and hes a very busy man |
| 03:38.07 | JeffM | ol |
| 03:38.08 | JeffM | ok |
| 03:38.13 | JeffM | still dosn't change what has to happen |
| 03:40.01 | Danji | i'll quit though see if i can find some different multiplayer game? |
| 03:41.24 | JeffM | if your drivers are old many games will have problems |
| 03:41.34 | Danji | whats the bckup and restore center? |
| 03:41.54 | JeffM | part of windows |
| 03:42.02 | Danji | i dont ever dust my computer is that the problem? : P |
| 03:42.06 | JeffM | no |
| 03:42.34 | Danji | what happens if you dont dust your computer after 6 years? |
| 03:43.12 | flying_popcorn | it gets dusty :D |
| 03:43.17 | Danji | heh |
| 03:43.24 | Danji | i gotta go guys seeya |
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| 03:43.52 | JeffM | somehow I don't think a 6 year old computer could run vista |
| 03:44.16 | flying_popcorn | heh |
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| 13:46.38 | gorgomol | The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. |
| 13:46.54 | gorgomol | while accessing pillbox league site |
| 13:47.06 | gorgomol | since few days |
| 13:47.28 | brad | looks like meno made an oopsy |
| 13:48.13 | gorgomol | yes just hard to report match :) |
| 13:49.36 | gorgomol | lost chanel ? |
| 13:49.58 | gorgomol | ok back |
| 13:50.13 | brad | dunno whats up with it , going to have to wait for meno to respond |
| 13:50.22 | brad | just poked him on another channel |
| 13:50.30 | gorgomol | k ty |
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