| 00:47.51 | *** join/#bzflag-chat Drummaster01 (n=43a72c3b@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:47.56 | Drummaster01 | hey winny |
| 00:48.12 | Drummaster01 | u eva get that vid up on how to make a server? |
| 00:48.53 | Drummaster01 | did u? |
| 00:49.01 | JeffM | wow |
| 00:49.10 | Drummaster01 | oh lol! |
| 00:49.15 | JeffM | double wow |
| 00:49.15 | Drummaster01 | not here |
| 00:49.20 | JeffM | no he's here |
| 00:49.21 | Drummaster01 | omg |
| 00:49.33 | Drummaster01 | ? |
| 00:49.39 | JeffM | can you please use english? |
| 00:49.43 | Drummaster01 | but did he? |
| 00:49.51 | JeffM | I don't know |
| 00:50.10 | Drummaster01 | darn |
| 00:50.18 | Drummaster01 | i STILL didnt get it up |
| 00:50.24 | Constitution | "here" on IRC is not defined as having a response time of 15 seconds |
| 00:50.38 | Drummaster01 | sorry..... |
| 00:51.14 | Drummaster01 | oh man im clueless tonight |
| 00:51.43 | JeffM | tonight? |
| 00:51.50 | Drummaster01 | nice |
| 00:51.53 | JeffM | step 1 |
| 00:51.55 | JeffM | breathe |
| 00:52.00 | Drummaster01 | ohhh |
| 00:52.04 | JeffM | step 2, calm down and just wait a while |
| 00:52.04 | Drummaster01 | i get it |
| 00:52.18 | JeffM | step 3, read what you are going to send before you send it. |
| 00:52.27 | Drummaster01 | ok |
| 00:52.35 | JeffM | if it has words that are not real, fix them. |
| 00:52.49 | Drummaster01 | I'm sorry, sir. |
| 00:52.51 | AHA | step 4, make sure what you about to send would be suitable for an english paper |
| 00:52.59 | AHA | so we can understand what you are saying |
| 00:53.04 | Drummaster01 | Ello, Governor |
| 00:53.14 | AHA | not: "WINNT DID U GET DAD VID UP YET DOOD?!?!?" |
| 00:53.15 | Drummaster01 | "English" |
| 00:53.26 | AHA | yes, thank you for correcting me |
| 00:53.39 | JeffM | let me guess 13? |
| 00:53.47 | Drummaster01 | twelve |
| 00:53.55 | JeffM | really? |
| 00:53.59 | temp_dist | sigh |
| 00:54.03 | JeffM | checks the list |
| 00:54.05 | AHA | smells a COPPA violation |
| 00:54.12 | Drummaster01 | What? |
| 00:54.19 | JeffM | you are 12? |
| 00:54.25 | Drummaster01 | Yes i am. |
| 00:54.33 | Drummaster01 | *Yes I am. |
| 00:54.44 | JeffM | did your parrents send us a COPPA letter giving us permision to save data for you? |
| 00:54.54 | Drummaster01 | What? |
| 00:55.00 | Winny | I'll guess no then |
| 00:55.00 | temp_dist | read slower |
| 00:55.01 | Drummaster01 | What's COPPA? |
| 00:55.11 | JeffM | yeah you are not on the list |
| 00:55.14 | JeffM | we can't store data for you |
| 00:55.19 | JeffM | I have to delete your bzbb account |
| 00:55.24 | Drummaster01 | What? |
| 00:55.29 | Drummaster01 | Why? |
| 00:55.35 | Think_Differentl | http://www.coppa.org/ |
| 00:55.35 | AHA | COPPA is the "Childrens Online Privacy Protection Act" |
| 00:55.38 | JeffM | Childs Online Privacy Protection Act |
| 00:55.49 | JeffM | we can not store data for users under 13 with out parrental concent |
| 00:55.50 | Drummaster01 | Oh. |
| 00:56.03 | JeffM | so basicly you LIED to us when you made your account |
| 00:56.10 | JeffM | we asked if you were 13, you said yes |
| 00:56.12 | JeffM | you were not |
| 00:56.21 | AHA | haah |
| 00:56.22 | Constitution | lol |
| 00:56.22 | JeffM | idiot |
| 00:56.23 | Think_Differentl | problem solved? |
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| 00:56.34 | Think_Differentl | ...or not |
| 00:56.37 | AHA | Hell good sir |
| 00:56.39 | AHA | *hello |
| 00:56.53 | JeffM | just more work for me |
| 00:57.44 | Winny | "I Agree to these terms and am over or exactly 13 years of age", is what you agreed to |
| 00:59.42 | Think_Differentl | you could ask your parents and have them submit something |
| 00:59.43 | Think_Differentl | ... |
| 01:02.21 | Think_Differentl | goes off to some Doom 3 |
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| 01:05.17 | drummaster1 | m sorry! |
| 01:05.22 | drummaster1 | I'm sorry! |
| 01:05.28 | drummaster1 | I was gonna say |
| 01:05.32 | JeffM | that won't change anything |
| 01:05.38 | drummaster1 | wait |
| 01:05.40 | JeffM | it's simply the law |
| 01:06.01 | drummaster1 | I was gonna say that i didnt mark myself as13 or older |
| 01:06.09 | JeffM | then you didn't read what it says |
| 01:06.18 | JeffM | we can't store data for you with out permision |
| 01:06.29 | drummaster1 | because i didn't want my mom to have to deal with all the junk that comes with me being under 13 |
| 01:06.35 | drummaster1 | just for a game |
| 01:06.45 | JeffM | well we have to "deal with all that junk" |
| 01:06.55 | JeffM | dude, you could have gotten us sued. |
| 01:06.57 | JeffM | and fined. |
| 01:07.11 | drummaster1 | Okay i didn't know that |
| 01:07.13 | JeffM | good lord, how many accounts did you make? |
| 01:08.05 | drummaster1 | Okay do I get my mom to send in a letter giving me permission to play bzflag legally? |
| 01:08.17 | JeffM | it has nothing to do with playing |
| 01:08.20 | JeffM | you can still play the game |
| 01:08.27 | drummaster1 | I mean register |
| 01:08.32 | JeffM | you mother has to send us writen permision to store data for you |
| 01:08.41 | JeffM | it has to go to tim at rikers dot org |
| 01:08.50 | JeffM | then we add you to the coppa group and all is good |
| 01:09.01 | JeffM | untill then I can't let you have an account |
| 01:09.06 | drummaster1 | so written not E-Mail? |
| 01:09.11 | JeffM | email is fine |
| 01:09.18 | drummaster1 | ok |
| 01:09.28 | drummaster1 | www.riker.com? |
| 01:09.28 | JeffM | it should include your real name, her real name, and the ONE account you wish to register. |
| 01:09.30 | JeffM | no |
| 01:09.39 | JeffM | dude if you can't read then bzflag isn't the place for you |
| 01:09.43 | drummaster1 | oh rickers |
| 01:09.54 | Think_Differentl | rikers.org |
| 01:09.56 | drummaster1 | I'm sorry. Typo. |
| 01:10.07 | JeffM | again, if you can not read, then this community isn't the place for you |
| 01:10.19 | drummaster1 | I can read fine. |
| 01:10.20 | JeffM | we do not recomend that 12 and 13 year olds register |
| 01:10.23 | JeffM | no you can't |
| 01:10.30 | drummaster1 | I sometimes make typos. |
| 01:10.33 | JeffM | I told you exactly what to do, and you didn't get it right |
| 01:10.41 | JeffM | a type is putting e before i |
| 01:10.44 | drummaster1 | okay |
| 01:10.53 | JeffM | www.rikers.com is not the same as tim@rikers.org |
| 01:11.07 | JeffM | it shows you just skimmed it and didn't read |
| 01:11.43 | drummaster1 | Okay I will get my mom to send email about Drummaster01 |
| 01:11.57 | drummaster1 | That will be my only account after. |
| 01:12.15 | JeffM | good |
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| 01:12.36 | drummaster1 | Until then I will accept ban if necissary |
| 01:12.59 | Think_Differentl | did you read? you can play, just without an account |
| 01:13.02 | L4m3r | you're not being banned |
| 01:13.18 | drummaster1 | I mean with Drummaster01 |
| 01:13.30 | drummaster1 | Cause this account will be dead |
| 01:13.38 | drummaster1 | *"dead" |
| 01:13.41 | JeffM | they arn't dead, they don't exist |
| 01:13.55 | JeffM | a ban does not even come into play |
| 01:14.15 | drummaster1 | You banned my other account though |
| 01:14.16 | JeffM | it is as if you never registered |
| 01:14.24 | JeffM | nothing is banned |
| 01:14.26 | JeffM | I deleted ALL your accounts |
| 01:14.44 | drummaster1 | excapt this |
| 01:14.48 | drummaster1 | *except |
| 01:14.50 | JeffM | no |
| 01:14.53 | JeffM | that account is gone too |
| 01:15.01 | drummaster1 | Oh fun |
| 01:15.16 | JeffM | I have to remove all stored data for you |
| 01:15.20 | JeffM | webIRC does not store data |
| 01:15.25 | drummaster1 | okay. |
| 01:15.49 | drummaster1 | I am sorry for all account-related stress/problems i have made for you |
| 01:16.54 | drummaster1 | I'll get my mom to send the email as soon as I can |
| 01:21.10 | F687s | (And another one bites the dust...) |
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| 01:23.09 | bz94 | Hi again it's Drummaster01 |
| 01:23.51 | bz94 | So what do I do with parent signature on the email |
| 01:24.46 | bz94 | Just plain text? |
| 01:26.15 | bz94 | For the signature in email should I/my mom just use plain text? |
| 01:27.26 | Constitution | did I mention cgi-irc on m.b.o has problems? |
| 01:40.40 | Winny | if you're serious about IRC get a real client ;) |
| 01:44.44 | JeffM | the problem there wasn't the software ;) |
| 01:51.38 | Erroneous | didn't you get the memo? the problem is always the software :P |
| 01:52.54 | JeffM | well then it was software that we have no controll over, the wet kind ;) |
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| 01:59.15 | Yassen | hello? |
| 01:59.21 | JeffM | hello |
| 02:01.42 | Yassen | right, so my question is how do you compile plugins on Windows Vista with Visual C++ 2005? |
| 02:01.58 | JeffM | what plugin are you trying to compile? |
| 02:02.54 | Yassen | well, I've tried the wwzones plugin, but any of them seem to get the same error: 1>LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'bzfs.lib' |
| 02:03.08 | JeffM | yes, you need the lib for bzfs |
| 02:03.14 | JeffM | there are 2 ways to get it |
| 02:03.24 | JeffM | one is included in the binary installs of bzflag |
| 02:03.33 | JeffM | the other is to build the server from the source code |
| 02:03.38 | JeffM | the first is simpler |
| 02:03.55 | JeffM | tho the binary install includes some premade plugins too |
| 02:04.55 | Yassen | how do you do the first then? I've tried moving the plugins to the API directory in the binary and relinking the bzfsAPI.h file to the one in the API folder, but I get the same problem |
| 02:05.40 | JeffM | the simplest way is to copy the lib to the same folder as the vcproj file |
| 02:05.48 | JeffM | or set it's locaiton in the paths |
| 02:05.56 | JeffM | for libs in visual studio |
| 02:06.27 | Yassen | ok, so move the bzfs.lib file into the folder which the plugins are in? |
| 02:06.34 | JeffM | the one you are building |
| 02:06.37 | blast007 | the path could be updated in the project itself too, right? |
| 02:06.41 | JeffM | yes |
| 02:06.45 | JeffM | there are MANY ways |
| 02:06.53 | blast007 | might neeed that anyway |
| 02:07.00 | JeffM | if he does more then one |
| 02:07.11 | JeffM | you can also copy it into the dir that vc uses |
| 02:07.17 | blast007 | it probably looks in ../../ or something similar |
| 02:07.28 | Yassen | Jeff > I'll try that |
| 02:07.34 | JeffM | 3.0 looks at the source root |
| 02:07.40 | JeffM | 2.0.x looks in the actual debug dir |
| 02:08.06 | blast007 | k |
| 02:08.23 | JeffM | I had 3 copy the lib to the root, makes packing easier ;) |
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| 02:11.48 | Yassen | so, it looks like it works...but where would I find the .dll? |
| 02:11.56 | Yassen | for the plugin |
| 02:12.18 | JeffM | look in the plugins dir |
| 02:12.23 | JeffM | it should copy them one level up |
| 02:12.38 | JeffM | goes home |
| 02:13.15 | Yassen | theres nothing there...only the files that came with the source... |
| 02:14.13 | Yassen | this isn't bad is it? : ========== Build: 0 succeeded, 0 failed, 1 up-to-date, 0 skipped ========== |
| 02:14.21 | Yassen | or is it? |
| 02:14.31 | blast007 | no dll file? |
| 02:14.37 | Yassen | nope |
| 02:14.44 | blast007 | fun |
| 02:14.53 | blast007 | try a rebuild |
| 02:14.57 | temp_dist | are you on mac os x? |
| 02:15.08 | Yassen | Windows Vista |
| 02:15.10 | blast007 | vista |
| 02:15.35 | Yassen | I wonder why microsoft makes everything harder... |
| 02:16.27 | Yassen | rebuild yeilds 1 succeded, but returns this warning: 1>wwzones.def(2) : warning LNK4017: DESCRIPTION statement not supported for the target platform; ignored 1> Creating library ..//wwzones.lib and object ..//wwzones.exp |
| 02:16.44 | Yassen | I dont know if this means anything...but... |
| 02:16.49 | blast007 | hmm |
| 02:17.24 | blast007 | I haven't build plugins on windows in ages, so I can't recall if there should be more |
| 02:17.56 | blast007 | check two directory levels up and see if you find the DLL |
| 02:19.45 | Yassen | no dlls anywhere up, but there are 2 files in the debug folder: wwzones.dll.embedded.manifest and wwzones.dll.embedded.manifest.res |
| 02:20.00 | blast007 | did you modify the plugin at all? |
| 02:20.13 | Yassen | nope, same one that came with source |
| 02:20.21 | blast007 | if not, the wwzones plugin is actually included with the 2.0.10 installer |
| 02:20.25 | blast007 | ;) |
| 02:20.45 | blast007 | I have one at: C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.10\wwzones.dll |
| 02:20.54 | Yassen | I know, but I would like to be able to compile them because I'm interested in trying to make them myself... |
| 02:21.17 | Yassen | perhaps the compiler isn't set up right? |
| 02:21.23 | blast007 | possible |
| 02:21.32 | blast007 | or the plugin project file isn't set up right |
| 02:25.14 | Yassen | I'll try creating a new dll project with the wwzones source files |
| 02:25.48 | blast007 | try building the 'SAMPLE_PLUGIN' |
| 02:26.03 | blast007 | that's a very basic one.. doesn't actually do anything :) |
| 02:27.21 | Yassen | I have to go, good chatting with you :) |
| 02:27.25 | blast007 | okay, cya |
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| 04:07.34 | Yassen | hello |
| 04:08.19 | JeffM2501 | hello again |
| 04:08.20 | Yassen | got the dlls to work =) |
| 04:08.23 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 04:09.35 | Yassen | It appears I was looking in the wrong directory that I was compiling in *blushes* |
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