IRC log for #bzflag-chat on 20081022

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20:00.33Drummaster01Hi
20:00.44Drummaster01By the way, I did have a good shower
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20:00.54Drummaster01(You know who you are)
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20:35.27spldartI'm leaving work early. Hard times are hard times but an argument between another employee and the owner lead to a loud statement "If you want to fight lets fight, lets take this outside"
20:35.49spldartNow 2 other employees and the manager are involved in a yelling match.
20:35.51spldartgeez
20:35.58spldartadios
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20:55.52me1HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPS LOCK DAY!
20:56.04Winnyshoots me1 in the face
20:56.12me1no, srsly
20:56.16me1http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/22/happy-international-caps-lock-day/
20:56.17Winnywtf at dumbmaster earlier
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21:03.29TD-LinuxAWESOMENESS
21:03.36me1INDEED?
21:03.43TD-LinuxINDEED.
21:06.54WinnyL4m3r: HAPPY INTERNATIONAL CAPSLOCK DAY DOOOD
21:12.35blast007I'M COOL NOW!
21:13.24bradis it seriously?
21:13.27bradwho the f(ck comes up with these things
21:13.32Winnybrad: your mom
21:13.34braddeserves a medal
21:13.38bradoh :o
21:13.48Winnyhttp://sadtrombone.com
21:13.59braddon't start that again..
21:14.10Winny;)
21:19.41blast007I don't count this one as official
21:20.07blast007http://www.earthcalendar.net/_php/lookup.php?mode=date&m=9&d=19&y=2008   <-- Talk like a pirate day is there
21:20.14blast007http://www.earthcalendar.net/_php/lookup.php?mode=date&m=10&d=22&y=2008  <-- but no caps lock day here
21:20.18blast007;)
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21:20.42bradsubmits it
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21:31.51detonatorhowcome i don't have any servers in my server list?
21:31.57detonatorit says 0/0
21:35.04detonatoranyone?
21:38.12detonatorfine fine if thats the way you all want to be
21:38.14detonatorbye
21:38.18me1detonator
21:38.23me1not everyone is here all the time
21:38.34me1but of course
21:38.38me1you won't listen anyway
21:38.46Winnyme1: he left :P
21:38.56me1even if you were still hear, and read everything i said
21:39.02Winnyhere
21:39.06me1erm yeah
21:40.43blast007that was Sk3letron
21:40.46blast007:P
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21:41.07me1heh
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22:59.05bz22can i ask a blender user sum questions
23:00.09AHAWinny could probably help you, but he is eating
23:00.16AHAi think me1 knows blender as well
23:00.28me1hello
23:00.32bz22im just having sum problems
23:00.39me1sum?
23:00.40me1like
23:00.42me11+1
23:00.42me1?
23:00.47bz221.)are there any other camera controls besides num and scroll
23:00.48AHAgiggles
23:01.01me1middle click and drag
23:01.06bz222.)how do i give text that is converted to mesh depth
23:01.41me1hold on
23:02.10me1in the editing panel (f9)
23:02.22me1when you have the font selected there is a "font" tab
23:02.27bz22ok
23:02.50me1hmm
23:02.59me1the layout changed in since 242
23:03.03me1ah
23:03.13me1not under font, under curve and surface
23:03.20me1right next to it on the left
23:03.25me1there is an "extrude"
23:03.37me1make that more than 0, and it will have depth
23:03.47me1you can also mess with devel depth and devresol
23:04.14bz22thanks
23:04.41me1alt-c converts it to curve, and again to mesh, if you want to, but if you just wanted depth, you can leave it as a text object
23:07.07bz22yea i just need it as mesh so i can convert
23:07.39me1alt-c > curve
23:07.42me1alt-c > mesh
23:09.05bz22another q, is there a way to make the grid larger when im in the perspective view
23:10.10me1nope
23:10.15bz22darn
23:10.23bz22cause i hate it how it only goes to like 30
23:16.04bz22is anyone even working on a better bzedit, not at difficult as blender, but the ability to make everything in bzflag
23:17.28JeffM2501bzworkbench was a proejct for last year's SoC
23:22.12bz22but its not done?
23:22.19JeffMno
23:22.24JeffMnothing is ever done
23:22.32bz22true
23:22.35JeffMpeople work on it when they wish to
23:22.43bz22was there ever a beta or anything i mean
23:22.53JeffMno
23:23.00JeffMit is development code
23:23.56Winnybz22: there are many good blender tutorials online
23:24.03Winnygo read through them
23:24.22bz22yes, i have seen a few but not many help
23:24.56Winnywell then you're doing it wrong
23:24.57Winnyhttp://www.blender.org/education-help/tutorials/
23:25.17bz22watching a video wrong?
23:25.45Winnythe tutorial teaches you how to use blender
23:25.54Winnyif ou can't follow it then you need to do a ore basic tutorial
23:26.17me1blender for boxes and pyramids = suck, imo
23:26.26bz22yhea
23:26.42JeffMit was not made for making maps
23:27.06bz22but it was modded to make maps, lol
23:27.11JeffMno it was not
23:27.22JeffMa plugin was made that allows some map like tools to be use
23:27.26JeffMit will never be perfect
23:27.39bz22as most programs are not anyways
23:27.56JeffMblender is a good modeler
23:28.02JeffMit should be used for that
23:28.08me1bz22, unless you are going to make a mostly or only mesh map, you shouldn't use blender
23:28.11JeffMbut modeling is only one aspect of bzflag map making
23:28.30bz22i only use blender for the things that i cant image, i just plot them out in blender instead
23:29.19bz22which brings one more q, is there a way to make vertices and indices in blender, i havnt foud a way
23:29.25bz22*found
23:29.42JeffMthat would be why you should do the blender tutorials
23:29.47JeffMwe arn't here to teach you how to use blender
23:31.28me1try #blender if you have any questions, AFTER you go through a bunch of tutorials
23:32.09me1oh
23:32.10me1yeah
23:32.17me1cgiirc cant go there
23:32.35me1On another note, i'd suggest getting a real irc client. :D
23:33.14bz22i would but im not on much after this
23:33.44me1Well, if you want to go on other channels for help, like #blender, it'd be a good idea
23:34.00bz22kk
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