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05:29.55Yassenanyone here?
05:30.24YassenI need help getting bzflag on Ubuntu 8
05:37.23BulletCatcherSomething like an "apt-get bzflag" command ought to do it.
05:44.33Yassenok, I got it, but it doesn't work :(
05:45.40BulletCatcherWhat happens when you run it?
05:47.02Yassenit works for a second, then the display gets all screwed up
05:48.31BulletCatcherDo you have 3D acceleration enabled for your graphics?  One way to find out is to run the "glxgears" command for 15 seconds or so to see what frame rate you get.
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05:50.16Yassen~800 fps
05:50.29BulletCatcherThat's fine.
05:50.32Yassenit works on Vista though
05:51.18blast007Yassen: are you running the desktop effects?
05:51.30Yassenwhat are those?
05:51.51blast007wobbly windows when you drag them, for instance
05:53.12blast007http://www.neohide.com/files/deskeffects/screen.png  (should be something like that)
05:53.12Yassenno, I'm running the normal ones (if thats what you are asking for?)
05:54.06blast007what graphics card and drivers are you using?
05:54.24BulletCatcherThinking more about it, 800 FPS in glxgears is kind of low.  The driver for 3D hardware acceleration may not be installed.
05:54.46Yassenhow would I find that out?
05:54.57BulletCatcherI don't know enough about Ubuntu to help with that.  Sorry.
05:55.14blast007boot into vista and see what it reports for a video card  ;)
05:55.27blast007or 'lspci' from a terminal might help
05:55.37blast007you're probably running the default drivers
05:56.05BulletCatcherTry a "lspci | grep -i vga" command.
05:56.34Yassen00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
05:56.54blast007oo fun
05:57.03I_Died_Once...Shaft ???
05:57.15blast007at least it's a newer chip ;)
05:57.18blast007I_Died_Once: ?
05:57.25Yassenthat must not be good...
05:57.34I_Died_Onceno...
05:57.44I_Died_Onceone, that was a mis-stroke of the keyboard
05:57.54Yassenits a 1 1/2 year laptop, so I hope its somewhat new
05:57.56I_Died_Oncei typed that in respoinced to some shit jeff said
05:58.13BulletCatcherlanguage, please
05:58.21I_Died_OnceEnglish
05:58.34blast007I_Died_Once: really..
05:58.35I_Died_Oncey Espanol tambien
05:59.28blast007Yassen: I haven't done much with intel graphics and linux
05:59.45blast007you could check the restricted drivers and see if there's anything there to enable
05:59.49blast007or Intel's site
05:59.56Yassenit comes up perfect for a fraction of a second, then it messes u
05:59.59Yassenup*
06:00.08blast007but you might also want to try posting on Ubuntu's forum
06:00.24blast007yeah, sounds like some driver glitch
06:00.24I_Died_Onceyassen, whats the output of lspci ???
06:00.42blast007you could try running 'bzflag -window -geometry 640x480' and see if that works
06:00.46blast007I_Died_Once: he already gave that
06:00.47I_Died_Oncenm, i see where crackhead asked same q
06:03.32Yassenjust for the record, loading with 3dfx causes the words to appear really shakey
06:03.49I_Died_Onceyassen whats the make and model of the machine
06:07.46Yassenperhaps its the client that is not good?
06:08.42blast007possible, but it's probably just a driver
06:08.46blast007driver issue*
06:09.13Yassenpurhaps downloading the latest driver will work?
06:09.22blast007yeah
06:10.50blast007this might be what you need: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=2301&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go!
06:16.37Yassenhmm...cant seem to find the download link
06:17.19blast007ah, maybe it's source only?
06:17.54blast007http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html  the bottom looks promising  "The latest stable driver components (recommend to ordinary users)"
06:18.11blast007I'd probably recommend asking on the Ubuntu forum though
06:18.15blast007I'm just guessing here  ;)
06:19.15Yassen"Compiling and/or upgrading graphics drivers in Linux is a complex and error-prone task." < thats very comforting lol
06:19.26blast007hehe
06:19.45blast007maybe just easier to reboot into Vista to play  ;D
06:20.20Flashbuy a Mac
06:20.49blast007yeah, with a Mac, if the driver sucks, you're just stuck with it. Great idea.
06:21.00Yassenwho would guess it would be easier to play on Vista than linux?
06:21.10blast007Yassen: heh
06:21.19blast007Windows is more of a gaming OS than linux  ;)
06:21.31blast007driver support is better
06:22.33YassenI dont suppose Linux can execute .exe's eh?
06:22.48blast007not really
06:22.52blast007depends what you mean
06:23.05Yassenrun .exes as programs
06:23.06blast007you can run some software with Wine, with varying degress of success
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06:27.31Yassenwonders if the intel people know the difference between windows and linux
06:30.01Yassen"BZFlag client 2.0.10.20080527-MAINT-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0026) http://BZFlag.org/ " that looks right?
06:31.22blast007yeah
06:31.38blast0072.0.12 is the latest stable release, but it was mainly build fixes
06:31.53blast007could be worth trying to build, but no guarantee
06:32.11Yassencompile from source?
06:32.50blast007yeah
06:33.28Yassenright, I cant get libCurl to be included...
06:33.42YassenI have source, but cant get the libraries to load :(
06:33.42blast007need the dev package
06:33.54Yassenyeah, but how to install?
06:36.01YassenI can connect to servers...
06:36.14Yassenso only graphics
06:36.50blast007yeah, building from source probably won't fix this problem
06:38.52Yassenso its only the text that has problems
06:39.14YassenI was observing on missile wars and the objects rendered properly
06:40.03Yassenif I try to play, it fails
06:41.24blast007yeah, not sure what to tell ya.  Your driver sucks. Play in Vista. ;)
06:47.11Yassenis it possible to try a different font that may work?
06:47.47Yassenit is not liking this font for sure...or the graphics card
06:49.19blast007shrugs
06:49.35blast007is the font just not one you like?  or does it look distorted/corrupted?
06:50.41Yassendistorted/corrupted
06:50.53blast007then a different font won't help
06:51.09Yassen:(
06:51.22blast007you could try adding this to your config file:
06:51.23Yassenthe font is the only thing that doesn't work
06:51.25blast007set useBitmapFontRenderer 1
06:52.34Yassenwhere is the "my bzflag files" stored?
06:52.46blast007http://my.bzflag.org/w/Config_File
06:55.22Yassenwhere can I find the installation program for bzflag?
06:55.54blast007hmm?
06:56.21Yassenis there one?
06:56.21blast007be more specific
06:56.31blast007we have an installer for Windows
06:56.37blast007that's the one OS that uses an installer
06:57.06blast007OSX uses a DMG and you drag the app into the Applications directory
06:57.16blast007linux is whatever package manager the distro uses
06:57.26Yassenok, thats what I did
06:57.40Yassenbut I cant find the .bzf folder...
06:58.17blast007did your tell your file manager to show hidden files/directories?
06:58.21blast007the period means it's hidden
06:59.09blast007or go to a terminal, and type:
06:59.12blast007cd ~/.bzw/
06:59.42blast007guess it's under 2.0/ from there
07:00.09blast007then you can do something like 'kate config.cfg'
07:00.18blast007or whavever editor you want to use
07:01.49Yassenbash: cd: /home/yassen/.bzw/: No such file or directory
07:02.07blast007er, sorry, .bzf
07:02.34Yassenhow to show hidden files/folders in linux?
07:02.41blast007shrugs
07:02.48blast007I normally use a terminal  ;)
07:03.06blast007(well, normally I use Windows..)
07:07.12YassenI can read!
07:07.22Yassenbut its still really buggy
07:09.22YassenI can play for a minute
07:09.34Yassenbut the display is really bad now :/
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