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01:55.21spldartI'm completely stunned.
01:55.26spldartTotally
01:56.36spldartFictional material from star trek IV the voyage home and original battlestar galactica "transparent aluminum" is now a reality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum_oxynitride
02:04.44Winnyis it just me or does CES get more and more boring every year
02:05.23me1?
02:05.46Winnyme1: CES
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02:06.10Winnyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Show
02:07.55spldartheh
02:08.45me1Winny, I was told by a teacher in 1st grade we'd be in flying cars next year. I guess they just aren't living up to the expectations.
02:09.14Winnyyour teacher was a dumbwad
02:09.39me1I was also told by a 1970's ad that I'd have a hover rv by 2000
02:09.55me1we don't even have hover _cars_
02:11.23spldartFunny how they do a terrible job on some things and great job on others... Remember Uhura's earpiece? Hello! Cell Phones !
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19:33.21Sk3letr0nHey everyone
19:39.21Sk3letr0nI need help
19:39.43Sk3letr0nis anyone here?
19:39.59kierralol
19:40.06kierraYOU need help?
19:40.10Sk3letr0nyes
19:40.14Sk3letr0nI need help getting a life
19:40.18kierraare you giving up cheating
19:40.24kierragoing on the wagon?
19:40.31temp_workalways ban Sk3letr0n  - he always cheats
19:40.40Sk3letr0nno...
19:40.49temp_workdon't let him try and come back to the game - ban on sight
19:40.54temp_workban him from here too
19:40.59Sk3letr0nlol
19:41.03Cobra_Fastsk3!
19:41.04Cobra_Fast:D
19:41.08Sk3letr0nhi :D
19:41.13kierrawell, skellie , I'm still as old and ugly as ever
19:41.20kierraso I can't help you
19:41.36kierrabut JefferyM can, I'm sure
19:41.39temp_workCobra_Fast, is friends with Sk3? Ban him too
19:41.49Cobra_Fastlol :)
19:41.51Sk3letr0nyes he helped me with C++ from time to time
19:41.52Cobra_Fastwhy?
19:41.54Cobra_Fasti dont cheat
19:42.07*** mode/#bzflag-chat [+o joevano] by ChanServ
19:42.13joevanonhi Sk3letr0n
19:42.13Sk3letr0nhi donny
19:42.14kierrabirds of a feather
19:42.22Sk3letr0nI see that n donny
19:42.26Sk3letr0nbeen playing too much bz?
19:42.28joevanoyep
19:42.53Sk3letr0nso how are you?
19:42.55temp_workhelping Sk3 should be bannable
19:43.16Sk3letr0nit's only irc
19:43.22Sk3letr0nwhat am I gonna do? cheat in here?
19:43.32bradrule 1 for dealing with trolls: ignore them
19:43.38temp_workyou should be shunned - thrown out of every place
19:43.45kierrabrad, meno is on
19:43.46Sk3letr0nso your saying we should ignore you?
19:43.46temp_workbrad, good point - bye
19:43.56Cobra_Fasti hate his cheating, too
19:43.58bradkierra: :o where?
19:44.01*** kick/#bzflag-chat [Sk3letr0n!n=joevano@bzflag/developer/JoeVano] by joevano (joevano)
19:44.01Cobra_Fastbut why hate the human
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19:44.20Cobra_Fastwb
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19:44.32Sk3letr0nstop!
19:44.35*** kick/#bzflag-chat [Sk3letr0n!n=joevano@bzflag/developer/JoeVano] by joevano (joevano)
19:44.37Cobra_Fastjoevano
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19:44.42joevanothis is more fun
19:44.47Sk3letr0nNO!
19:44.49Cobra_Fastdo you know +b? :p
19:44.59temp_workhehe
19:44.59joevanoyep.. but not as annoying
19:45.05Cobra_Fasthrhrhr
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19:45.25Cobra_Fastthats joevano at the moment: >:)
19:45.38kierrabzf 58
19:46.13Sk3letr0nI was reading some logs
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19:46.29Sk3letr0ncome on now...
19:46.36Sk3letr0nyou know you love me...
19:46.39joevanook.. ok.. i'll ban ya
19:46.40Sk3letr0n:D
19:46.49Sk3letr0nno it's ok
19:46.54Sk3letr0nI deserve it
19:46.56Sk3letr0n:D
19:46.57temp_workthx for the ban
19:47.11Sk3letr0nYOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH TEMP!
19:47.18Sk3letr0nDU HALT DIE FRESSE!
19:47.37Cobra_Fastyou learned well :p
19:47.44Sk3letr0n:D
19:48.00Sk3letr0nbrb
19:48.03Cobra_Fastbit its like DU HÄLST DIE FRESSE!
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19:50.04temp_worksuper
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19:50.12Winny:D
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19:50.28Cobra_Fasthuh what was that
19:50.33Cobra_Fastjoe?
19:50.40Cobra_Fasture all right?
19:51.04Cobra_Fastyou kick me because i talk with Sk3?
19:51.07Cobra_Fast:(
19:51.22Winnyding ding ding
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20:07.29me1joevano, this post: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=133113#p133113 reminds me of the time I did a clientquery and someone had "3.0.0" as their version number. :p
20:08.54joevanoyep, it is *SUPER* easy to change
20:09.14joevanoi would actually suspect someone with a non-standard date a little less
20:09.35joevanoof cheating, because most cheaters try to cover their tracks
20:09.52joevanobut now having said that out loud, just voided the whole statement :P
20:10.00me1heh
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20:36.57SpazzyMcGeejoevano, you say version string is 100% unreliable indicator of cheating - you are partly correct. it could still be used as evidence in a suspected cheater's case, to back up other evidence.
20:37.33SpazzyMcGeeIn the same way a criminal conviction can't be based on a lie detector test - but it can be used as evidence
20:37.56joevanooh, agreed... but it is not a reason for a ban or even to nail down a cheat
20:38.10SpazzyMcGeeyes, true
20:38.56joevanoit IS 100% unrealable as an indicator for cheating - it may make you look at them a little closer
20:39.14joevanobut it neither confirms or denies any cheating activity
20:39.37SpazzyMcGeeyes
20:39.53joevanobut, I have heard that too many times from admins
20:40.11joevanothat not having a standard build on windows means you are a cheat
20:40.29SpazzyMcGeethat's just a stupid thing to say
20:40.43joevanothat is why I stated it so strongly
20:40.54SpazzyMcGeeI can't believe many people use that as grounds for ban
20:41.07joevanothere are lots of stupid people out there, and untrue assumptions as well
20:41.36joevanonot many, but they are out there
20:43.08joevanoSpazzyMcGee: is this beeter: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=13554&p=133113#p133113
20:43.43SpazzyMcGee:)
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21:24.45JefferyMfun
21:24.51Buckohello all
21:25.04Buckojust updated my comp, just got around to getting IRC running
21:25.40Buckolemme make a launcher
21:25.55JefferyMhuh?
21:26.14Buckoapplication launcher for my IRC client
21:26.20JefferyMand we care about that why?
21:26.24Buckoinstead of using cmd line
21:26.27Buckogood point
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21:27.39JefferyMCobra_Fast, you were kicked cus you fueled the fire
21:27.49JefferyMjoevano, what did the tardling want?
21:32.11joevanoJefferyM: help
21:32.46joevanothink he was just trying to be a jerk
21:33.41JefferyMno he probably really wanted help
21:33.42JefferyMhe does that
21:33.57JefferyMhe jut dosnt' get that he dosnt' get to ask us for help anymore
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23:22.42blast007anyone know of a good way to undelete a partition?  :/
23:23.10blast007accidentally deleted one with gparted (didn't hit the Undo button enough times)
23:30.48JefferyMhave you tried the healing power of prayer?
23:40.39BulletCatcherIf you know the starting position and size of the deleted partition you can just recreate it.  If not, look at what is left and the "hole" is probably what you want.
23:42.04blast007got it back with 'gpart' ;D
23:42.08blast007wooooo
23:42.49blast007I really need to look more carefully when I'm playing with gparted
23:43.01blast007(that, or have a backup...)
23:59.42CBGvotes for both
23:59.56CBGgoes back to looking for his external harddrive he can't find anywhere :(

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