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01:07.56lol_udiedDoes anyone other than TJ13820 work with Novell?
01:08.21tj13820lol_udied: www.google.com
01:08.30lol_udied?
01:08.39lol_udiedNo not hacking. Just have quesions
01:08.44lol_udiedquestions*
01:24.04lol_udiedCya
01:24.26tj13820hah
01:26.19AbominableWhy would he even come to THIS chat to ask such a STUPID question.
01:30.28spldartTo set the bar for stupid people everywhere/.
01:30.36spldarts//./?
01:49.00tj13820^ very nice :)
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02:50.26Think_Differentlwoo, new-ish channel!
02:51.34me1Think_Differentl, if you didn't notice, bzchat used to forward here
02:53.33Think_Differentlyeah
02:53.44Think_Differentllooks around a bit more at GPUs
02:54.08tj13820what gpu port do you have? AGP, PCI, PCI-E?
02:54.36Think_Differentlpci-e
02:54.54tj13820heh only benefit is parallelism
02:55.00tj13820i don't run 4 monitors though
02:55.06tj13820so AGP is fine for me :)
02:55.07Think_Differentlgot a few boxes with AGP ports, but those are mostly filled with geforce 4s and whatnot
02:55.24tj13820hold on a sec i'll get the link to the one i'm lookin at
02:55.27tj13820it's OC'ed
02:55.33tj138201.820Ghz memory clock
02:56.10tj13820http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3805427&CatId=318
02:56.34tj13820320 Steam processors for AGP is insane
02:56.44Think_DifferentlAGP is old, though
02:56.57Think_Differentlmost new boards come with PCIe, plus the AGP boards are insanely expensive
02:57.15tj13820i have a nice AGP board
02:57.30tj13820pentium 4 2.8Ghz Overclocked to 3.2
02:57.39tj13820prescott core
02:57.49spldartIndeed
02:57.56Think_DifferentlpresHOTT
02:57.58Think_Differentltasty.
02:58.08tj13820i have 3 antec tricool fans (blue led)
02:58.23tj13820an EVGA fan in an un-occupied PCI slot
02:58.25Think_Differentli've got a prescott celeron that's in some p4 board
02:58.27spldartooOOoo LED fan eyesores ;)
02:58.32Think_Differentlheh
02:58.44tj13820and a coolermaster CPU cooler with large heatsink
02:58.51Think_Differentli removed the LEDs from my case and stuck a big red flip up missle style toggle for power :P
02:58.54tj13820has hookups for watercooling
02:59.02Think_Differentlit has a LED, but I didn't want to have to solder more wires :P
02:59.04tj13820lol
02:59.11spldartNow watercooling is cool... ;)
02:59.14spldartDD all the way.
02:59.14tj13820mine just works through molex
02:59.17Think_DifferentlTEC > water.
02:59.22spldartnah
02:59.28Think_Differentlno leaks :P
02:59.30tj13820as long as the fittings/solder is tight
02:59.42tj13820and i can sweat pipes pretty darn well
02:59.44Think_Differentli have the machine on my desk, so water is a no no
02:59.47spldartWater with chevy truck radiator mounted to window AC = 22 to 24 degrees C
02:59.53spldarton BOTH cpu's
03:00.00tj13820heh
03:00.17tj13820i had an AC unit that i used as a heat exchanger for a server rack in my closet :P
03:00.25spldartheh
03:00.30Think_Differentli'm afraid my case can't fit the 4870 :E
03:00.30tj13820the pipes went out through my closet wall
03:00.33tj13820and strait outside
03:00.48tj13820kept it around 20-22 degrees C
03:00.55tj13820all of it
03:01.01Think_Differentlit's cold here, so my silly old server runs more as a space heater than a server.
03:01.09tj13820haha
03:01.13tj13820that's the same with mine
03:01.15tj13820during the winter at least
03:01.32tj13820with 8 Compaq DL360's
03:01.37tj13820it gets pretty warm
03:01.42Think_Differentli don't need a server at all
03:01.43spldartThis all reminds me... I need to take my dedicated computer AC out of the window and blast out the condense/evaporat coils and lube the fan.
03:01.53tj13820(not to mention that turning on a ML530 G2 heats an entire house...)
03:01.55spldartAnything to save my central air to much wear and tear.
03:02.01Think_Differentlit sort of just sits there in the corner, sad and all.
03:02.18Think_Differentli bought another p3 for it to make it happy
03:02.23spldartlol
03:02.24Think_Differentlyay for ebay and free shipping.
03:02.26tj13820ever get near one of those things?
03:02.36spldartNope
03:02.44Think_Differentlnow it's a total of 1100MHz D:
03:02.44tj13820Compaq Proliant ML530 G2. Loudest thing you'll ever hear. 16 fans
03:02.48spldartBut I remember running a k7 farm on folding@home.
03:02.52spldartThat's some heat.
03:03.00tj13820wow
03:03.10tj13820heat doesn't bother me as much as noise
03:03.13tj13820:P
03:03.22tj13820remember the Powermac G4 Cube?
03:03.23Think_Differentlcan't afford the AC bills
03:03.29tj13820most effecient heat dispersing EVER
03:03.33spldartI LOVE fan noise.. Dunno why... but it has to be low pitch and not high pitch
03:03.54Think_Differentlmy case is octopus like and thus catches on fans and make them rattle
03:03.55tj13820hehe
03:04.06Think_Differentlthank god for earphones :)
03:04.12tj13820i heat shrunk all my cables in black shrink
03:04.14spldartI hate it when the wiring gets in the fans.
03:04.30tj13820and wire tied them away from fans to increase airflow
03:04.31Think_Differentli don't have enough room in my case, so there isn't anywhere for wires to go
03:04.37Think_Differentland i hate zip ties
03:04.38tj13820one fan at the bottom front to suck air in
03:04.45tj13820two at the back to blow it out
03:04.52tj13820one on the side to get it in
03:05.24tj13820plus the EVGA cooler
03:05.32Think_Differentlneeds somewhere to put pictures
03:05.39tj13820heh
03:05.47tj13820i'll put some on my servers
03:05.49Think_Differentllooks like a few machines are going to the recycling
03:05.51spldartThus T_D1 needs a sever
03:05.53spldartserver
03:06.03Think_Differentland use the HDDs to hold some pics
03:06.06spldartWe are driving peeps away
03:06.07tj13820a server... severely
03:06.23Think_Differentleach scan is 25MB
03:06.38Think_Differentli've shot at least 10 rolls so far...
03:06.41tj13820T_D1: you could just get an old Comodore 64 to use as a webserver
03:06.52Think_Differentli don't need a webserver
03:06.55tj13820heh
03:06.59tj13820i have one of those :)
03:07.10tj13820With the old stylus printer
03:07.12Think_Differentli need space
03:07.17Think_Differentland more film :)
03:07.19tj13820Virtualization
03:07.21tj13820:P
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03:07.42tj13820film?
03:07.48tj13820Digital camera :P
03:07.54spldartheh... I used to work at an authorized Commodore  service station WAY back in the day.
03:08.00tj13820lol
03:08.01Think_Differentlfilm all the way
03:08.13tj13820mine has an app to play "Battleship"
03:08.16tj13820or something like it
03:08.18Think_Differentl72GB for 20 rolls of scans of Tri-X
03:08.26tj13820wow
03:08.26Think_Differentlneed MOAR space
03:08.33tj13820i have a Canon SLR
03:08.39tj13820oldschool
03:08.41tj13820with 3 different lenses
03:08.49tj13820i "inherited" it
03:08.52spldartI use an old wimpy Olympus
03:09.05Think_Differentli've got an EOS 650, A2, and my praktica.
03:09.20tj13820i'll take a picture... of my camera... and put it up too
03:09.21tj13820haha
03:09.24tj13820that's so odd to say
03:09.26Think_Differentlthe praktica only has a 50/1.8, but it's a zeiss.
03:09.39Think_Differentlyay for east german cameras
03:09.40tj13820my camcorder has a zeiss lense
03:09.50Think_Differentlthis is real zeiss
03:09.53spldartGerman lenses are impressive
03:09.58Think_Differentl1968
03:10.00Think_Differentl:)
03:10.03tj13820i have an old 32mm camcorder
03:10.05tj13820i think 32
03:10.05spldart68
03:10.09spldarta very very good year.
03:10.10spldart;)
03:10.18tj13820...
03:10.21tj1382063 was better!
03:10.22tj13820lol
03:10.25spldartNot
03:10.30tj13820As my man frankie valley would attest to
03:10.36Think_Differentlpancolar 1,8/50
03:10.57spldartDodge didnt even release the new widened frame A-body till 67.
03:11.10tj13820E body ford all the way
03:11.17spldartBut now I'm so offtopic it's not funny
03:11.21tj13820just plow into a car and see it break in half...
03:11.36tj13820meh
03:11.38Think_Differentldoesn't know much about cars...anymore
03:11.42tj13820ha
03:11.50Think_Differentli'm focused on cameras right now.
03:11.52tj13820Boss 302 mustang... yum
03:11.58Think_Differentlgot my own little darkroom and all
03:12.00spldart69 Chrylser imperial.. LAND YACHT.
03:12.06tj13820haha
03:12.08tj13820yes
03:12.18Think_Differentl'98 saturn stationwagon...wooo. wooo.
03:12.26spldartheh
03:12.33tj13820The pinto
03:12.35spldartI heard GM is dropping Saturn moniker
03:12.36tj13820lol
03:12.45Think_Differentlspldart, well, they are opels right?
03:12.46spldartThe Mustang II
03:12.47spldartdoh
03:13.03spldartsaturn = opel ?
03:13.12Think_Differentldad had a 64 1/2 mustang...V8, custom trim
03:13.24Think_Differentlgold
03:13.29spldartNow mustang looked good back to the beginning
03:13.36spldartLike Vette
03:13.47Think_Differentlspldart, yeah, i thought saturns were just opels with stickers on em
03:14.00tj13820newer cars are too big
03:14.02Think_Differentler, after 2003 or so
03:14.02spldartI don't believe so.. but meh... I could be wrong
03:14.11tj13820and ... accesorized
03:14.24spldartDidn't opel break away?
03:14.28spldartRecently
03:14.28Think_Differentli'll go with the cheapest one that gets me where i want to go, thank you.
03:14.34spldarthehe
03:14.50Think_Differentlis in the market for a car
03:14.54tj13820heh what if that car happens to blow up if you hit it from the rear?
03:15.05Think_Differentlalthough public transport around here is excellent
03:15.11spldartThat generally doesn't happen any more tj1
03:15.22tj13820there was ONE specific car that happened to
03:15.27tj13820oil pan over exaust
03:15.29spldartheh.. no public trans in sugar land
03:15.35Think_Differentlrides the bus a lot
03:15.56Think_Differentlthat's the one nice thing about DC. the metro/bus system is great, you can go virtually anywhere relatively quickly
03:15.59tj13820i take the shoeleather express
03:16.04Think_Differentleverything else is kinda crappy
03:16.09spldartTo many bimmers and mercedes and other expensives on our streets to fit busses
03:17.05tj13820when i get my liscense... i already saved for a 1998 mercury mountaineer with a V8 jasper engine (5.2L 3000's overbored)
03:17.42tj13820that's in 7 months
03:17.43tj13820hehe
03:18.13Think_Differentlheh, it's going to take me 12 hours nonstop to scan my existing film
03:18.22Think_Differentlugh, wendsday will be fun :P
03:19.35Think_Differentli can't afford a car when i get my real license
03:19.49Think_Differentlso the bus it will be :)
03:21.32spldartI hate the fact, at least in houston, that the busses puke out these giant clouds of half burned diesel fuel that can really irritate respiration... Esp when i'm on my bike and trying to save gas... The fumes get right into the helmet instantly and cough city.
03:22.18Think_Differentlheh
03:22.25Think_Differentlbuses here run on natural gas
03:22.42spldartoOOoo..
03:23.01spldartI remember my visit to japan.. some of the taxis ran on that stuff
03:23.03spldartkewl beans
03:23.44spldartT_D1: Cali?
03:25.57Think_Differentlspldart, huh?
03:26.51spldartWhere do you reside that the busses are on natural gas?
03:26.54Think_Differentli live in washington, dc'
03:26.58spldartOh!
03:26.59spldartok
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