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| 02:34.50 | bz81 | on which maps can team tactics be used? |
| 02:35.12 | JeffM | any map where you can convince your team to use tactics |
| 02:35.51 | bz81 | is that even possible? |
| 02:36.10 | blast007 | depends. How much money do you have? |
| 02:36.14 | blast007 | I take bribes |
| 02:36.23 | bz81 | isn't that illegal? |
| 02:36.30 | bz81 | i might pay though |
| 02:36.37 | JeffM | what law would it break? |
| 02:36.48 | bz81 | soliciting through bzflag |
| 02:36.55 | JeffM | what country has a law against that? |
| 02:37.10 | bz81 | hmmm, don't know |
| 02:37.28 | JeffM | if it does not break a law, it can not be illegal |
| 02:37.38 | bz81 | but would you tell a person asking people to pay him trhough paypal on a server to stop? |
| 02:38.02 | JeffM | why wouold I have the rights to tell you what to do with your money? |
| 02:38.23 | bz81 | because you are the admin, for example |
| 02:38.31 | bz81 | I've seen it happen before |
| 02:38.43 | JeffM | why would the admin have any rights to tell you what to do with your money? |
| 02:38.58 | JeffM | the admin could remove people from the server if they wanted |
| 02:39.01 | JeffM | but they can do that for anything |
| 02:39.25 | JeffM | I can remove you from my server because it's monday |
| 02:39.27 | bz81 | so public solicitations for products while using bzflag is allowed? |
| 02:39.34 | JeffM | allowed by who? |
| 02:39.52 | bz81 | anyone? admins? |
| 02:39.53 | JeffM | every server onwer says what they will and will not allow on thier hardware |
| 02:39.59 | JeffM | what is an "admin"? |
| 02:40.09 | bz81 | "administrator" |
| 02:40.13 | JeffM | servers are run by people |
| 02:40.20 | bz81 | people admin |
| 02:40.27 | JeffM | how those people decide to administrate the systems is up to them |
| 02:40.35 | JeffM | the owner can allow or dissallow whatever they want |
| 02:40.46 | JeffM | the owner can dissalow people named Lary |
| 02:40.50 | bz81 | hmm. I will go back to check out server banners then |
| 02:41.08 | bz81 | can they disallow themselves? |
| 02:41.08 | JeffM | I doubt any servers do that |
| 02:41.11 | JeffM | sure |
| 02:41.16 | JeffM | they run the hardware |
| 02:41.20 | JeffM | they own the bandwith |
| 02:41.22 | bz81 | permanently kick themselves? |
| 02:41.25 | JeffM | sure |
| 02:41.40 | bz81 | then what happens? |
| 02:41.49 | JeffM | whatever they want to happen |
| 02:42.01 | bz81 | they stay off, or...? |
| 02:42.02 | JeffM | the proejct itself has nothing to say about servers or how they are run |
| 02:42.28 | bz81 | "hmmm". (that's for real) |
| 02:42.32 | JeffM | huh? |
| 02:42.48 | bz81 | didn't know that |
| 02:43.05 | JeffM | now if you started a server and exploited the players, I would find it highly unlikely that you'd be listed on the public list server |
| 02:43.10 | JeffM | or able able to use global auth |
| 02:43.15 | JeffM | or fourms, etc.. |
| 02:43.25 | bz81 | ok |
| 02:43.44 | JeffM | it's like this, can the people that make firefox, prevent an adult website from running? |
| 02:44.05 | bz81 | no |
| 02:44.23 | JeffM | then how can the makers of bzflag tell someone how to run the server they setup and host? |
| 02:44.39 | JeffM | we simply make software |
| 02:44.40 | bz81 | i see |
| 02:46.58 | bz81 | so can players solicit things on MOFO for example? |
| 02:47.05 | bz81 | *or people? |
| 02:47.07 | JeffM | that's up to the owners of mofo |
| 02:47.09 | JeffM | ask them |
| 02:47.52 | blast007 | bz81: I was joking, as well... |
| 02:48.17 | blast007 | most players don't care about "teamwork" |
| 02:48.24 | bz81 | but why not? |
| 02:48.25 | blast007 | they focus more on their own scores, even in CTF |
| 02:48.28 | JeffM | any user that took you up on any offer would not be very bright |
| 02:48.37 | bz81 | how so? |
| 02:48.53 | blast007 | JeffM: actually I'd say the opposite ;) |
| 02:49.09 | bz81 | like on Jefenry's Stalingrad map |
| 02:49.37 | bz81 | get people to use thief to clear out sts, then follow up with GMs, and finally with your own STs or what have you |
| 02:49.40 | blast007 | if you want teamwork, go try a league |
| 02:49.53 | JeffM | or play with people know |
| 02:50.05 | JeffM | most PUGs suck in any game, not just bzflag |
| 02:50.14 | bz81 | PUGs? |
| 02:50.21 | JeffM | Pick Up Groups |
| 02:50.31 | bz81 | O |
| 02:50.49 | bz81 | are there leagues that play on maps with flags? |
| 02:52.11 | JeffM | go look and see |
| 02:53.28 | bz81 | will do, thank you |
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| 03:00.09 | bz81 | JeffM: there are no leagues with superflags. Oh well. So team tactics don't fly with superflags |
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