| 00:01.29 | Flak18 | it is un-professionally designed map with a whole bunch of issues |
| 00:02.50 | Flak18 | would like to make a boycott on apoc with some of the better known players |
| 00:03.40 | kaadmy | yep |
| 00:04.00 | kaadmy | i'll boycott it too, i don't play on it anyway |
| 00:05.21 | BulletCatcher | It doesn't have to be a "boycott", people just need to choose any other server. |
| 00:05.22 | BulletCatcher | Maybe even be the first player on some other server and wait for others. |
| 00:05.45 | kierra | no one pays me to be in obs on apoc |
| 00:06.23 | kierra | exactly, BC |
| 00:06.31 | Flak18 | seems like the ones i meant were StanDman,Gone Fishing |
| 00:06.42 | Flak18 | the possible paid obs |
| 00:06.54 | kierra | nah |
| 00:07.02 | BulletCatcher | Why do you think they are paid to be there? |
| 00:07.31 | Flak18 | who stays three days being an ob? |
| 00:07.57 | Flak18 | even if it's to save a score. |
| 00:08.36 | BulletCatcher | StanDman or Gone Fishing, apparently. |
| 00:09.20 | allejo | If people really took objection to apocalypse, then no one would be playing on it. Players complain but they never go to other servers and wait there for people to join |
| 00:09.20 | Flak18 | i would guess that there is more to that then what meets the eye |
| 00:09.50 | Flak18 | the issue is an artificially rated server |
| 00:09.54 | BulletCatcher | Why would you guess that? |
| 00:09.54 | BulletCatcher | Why not guess something else? |
| 00:11.47 | allejo | Your whining and complaining about a server and not doing anything about it is a problem |
| 00:12.19 | allejo | People whine and complain about Apoc but always end up playing. People begged for MW2.3 to be hosted again, voila I put it up and people rarely play on it |
| 00:13.09 | BulletCatcher | That's because some of us are *still* tired of MW2.3. :-) |
| 00:13.18 | allejo | hehe |
| 00:13.56 | allejo | Oh geez. I've had my earbuds in without music |
| 00:14.32 | kierra | Regarding list server....is it true yet that obs no longer count |
| 00:14.44 | kaadmy | iirc yes |
| 00:14.47 | kierra | or not yet implemented |
| 00:15.04 | kaadmy | 2.4.4 RC1 should have it |
| 00:15.14 | kaadmy | or was it in RC2? |
| 00:15.14 | BulletCatcher | Observers no longer count in 2.4.4 RC versions. |
| 00:15.46 | allejo | And the servers are randomly sorted |
| 00:15.48 | kierra | so mofo pple in obs do affect |
| 00:15.55 | allejo | The empty ones that is |
| 00:15.56 | kierra | dont* |
| 00:18.10 | allejo | Mofo obs don't count in 2.4.4 RCs |
| 00:18.17 | allejo | 2.4.2 clients still factor them in |
| 00:19.09 | BulletCatcher | blast007 could produce actual stats on client versions, but I suspect 2.4.2 is currently the most popular. |
| 00:19.53 | allejo | I would imagine, doubt too many people use RCs or know about them |
| 00:20.18 | kaadmy | 2.4.4 is mentioned as an update when starting bzflag |
| 00:20.42 | allejo | But those messages are so static (i.e. They never change) people ignore them |
| 00:21.16 | kaadmy | maybe it should be an obvious banner like xonotic? |
| 00:21.30 | kaadmy | maybe an popup on the main menu? |
| 00:22.00 | BulletCatcher | We just need to get a proper 2.4.4 released. |
| 00:22.12 | allejo | blast loves pop ups |
| 00:22.22 | kaadmy | they work :) |
| 00:22.54 | kaadmy | then if he loves popups, they might be implemented faster than anything else ;) |
| 00:55.19 | alezakos | kaadmy: I'd be willing to host your map too, although my server is in EU |
| 00:56.11 | alezakos | but as allejo said, it's not a bad idea to post it on the forums |
| 01:31.42 | kaadmy | ok |
| 01:33.12 | kaadmy | thanks for the support, i'll put my map and plugin on the forums when they're done |
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| 04:08.11 | blast007 | kaadmy: on Windows we can trigger actual update notifications that will allow you to download the new release right from in-game |
| 04:12.10 | kaadmy | ah |
| 04:12.31 | blast007 | it's not all that great though |
| 04:12.44 | blast007 | for 2.6 I want a proper MOTD :) |
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| 13:20.19 | Flak18 | looks like bzion is coming along nicely |
| 13:39.11 | Flak18 | looking on a possible concept |
| 13:40.22 | Flak18 | in which we build a version of bzflag for android and the iphone |
| 13:42.09 | blast007 | please no |
| 13:42.15 | Flak18 | It would be a publicity stunt for bzflag |
| 13:42.34 | Flak18 | on second thought |
| 13:42.45 | Flak18 | better not |
| 13:42.46 | blast007 | :P |
| 13:43.09 | blast007 | we do not need publicity. we need a better game. |
| 13:43.47 | Flak18 | was a concept for the release of 2.6.0. |
| 13:45.28 | Flak18 | Also I'm not a developer |
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| 13:59.06 | kierra | Flak18: ping |
| 13:59.23 | Flak18 | yes |
| 13:59.30 | Flak18 | was afk |
| 13:59.33 | kierra | pm |
| 14:00.43 | blast007 | Flak18: if you had said anything between "Also I'm not a developer" and my client rejoining, I missed it |
| 14:01.28 | Flak18 | i did not happen to say anything in that time frame |
| 14:02.56 | blast007 | k |
| 14:03.23 | Flak18 | if wanted you could check the logs |
| 14:07.28 | blast007 | yeah, I could totally wait until midnight UTC to do that, assuming the bot also didn't disconnect in that netsplit |
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| 17:37.16 | Flak18 | DOW is dropping |
| 17:37.22 | Flak18 | sell now |
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