| 00:32.05 | short_circuit | Anyone have an old Acer veriton with a hard crashing issue using anyone's mapping website in google chrome yet Firefox ESR works fine.... I'm talking 4th gen i3 and i5. You have to disable hardware acceleration in chrome. I'm kinda addicted to having the ability to sync to chrome so yeah. Upped from a i3 to i5 'T' that wasn't listed as compatible, along with ram, but couldn't figure why it hard crashed with no logs of w |
| 00:32.05 | short_circuit | hat happened. Wherever you go, there you are. |
| 00:34.04 | short_circuit | Google lead me in circles. Oh! Linux. |
| 00:37.37 | short_circuit | Veriton N4630G and an I54590T, though not an option available at the time, does work. Latest bios. In case your looking for a cheap rig on the side ;) |
| 00:47.26 | blast007 | is this using Intel graphics, or do it have an nVidia or AMD graphics chip? |
| 00:47.30 | blast007 | does* |
| 00:47.49 | short_circuit | intel. hd 4400 or 4600 iirc |
| 00:48.15 | short_circuit | glxgears works just fine. Haven't tried bz on it just for silly |
| 00:48.29 | short_circuit | On chip. Haswell |
| 00:49.37 | short_circuit | Started with a 4160t i3 |
| 00:53.38 | short_circuit | For a cheap silly all over ebay rig. Just knowing you can build a quad core rig with 8 gig ram and linux on lxde is kinda awesome. I got 100 on the rig. 40 on the used processor, a second 4 gig stick for 13 bux, and linux lxde. It makes a nice recliner pc ;) |
| 00:53.43 | blast007 | lol, was looking through the chrome://flags, and I noticed a typo "Use vulkan as the graphocs backend. â Linux, Android" graphocs |
| 00:53.59 | short_circuit | ooOOoo |
| 00:54.41 | blast007 | but I wonder if you installed the mesa-vulkan-drivers package and then turned on the vulkan flag in Chromium |
| 00:55.03 | short_circuit | I have NO clue :/ |
| 00:55.31 | short_circuit | I'm on my proper desktop / blu-ray bur... Uhm... Player |
| 00:56.00 | short_circuit | I'm definitely researching this though. |
| 00:57.53 | short_circuit | oddly though. I saw little difference in htop when I disabled hardware before and after playing youtube, etc. |
| 00:58.05 | blast007 | no idea what things it uses vulkan for, so it may have *no* impact at all with your issue :) |
| 00:58.18 | short_circuit | Oh nouveau.. or however it's spelled |
| 00:58.32 | blast007 | "Accelerated video decode is unavailable on Linux: 137247" |
| 00:58.47 | short_circuit | I'm still gonna google! You have tons more computer knowledge than I do :) |
| 00:58.49 | blast007 | so, it's not using hardware acceleration on Linux for video |
| 00:59.03 | short_circuit | apparently. |
| 00:59.10 | blast007 | Firefox doesn't either |
| 00:59.36 | short_circuit | glxgears is syncing to monitor, which is an old 52" sony so bleh. |
| 00:59.55 | short_circuit | It is a nice make me happy while I relax rig. |
| 01:00.21 | short_circuit | So It could come in handy for more of you. That processor upgrade really gave it a spring in it's step. |
| 01:00.36 | short_circuit | Oh.. And a faster SSD I happened to have laying around. |
| 01:01.10 | blast007 | I had pondered upgrading this i3-3220 to an i7 |
| 01:01.13 | short_circuit | I'm in my 50's and I have spare SSD's! I'm not doing to badly. |
| 01:01.33 | blast007 | the funny thing is that it'd be cheaper to buy a refurbished PC that has the i7 than it would be to just buy the i7 itself |
| 01:02.19 | short_circuit | I really considered breaking bad and doing an i7 T at 45 watts instead of the spec'd 35 watt original but thought... Meh. Play it kinda safe with a non original equipped i5. |
| 01:03.15 | short_circuit | Right! I7's are still pricey! Yet. This is book shelf sized .... |
| 01:03.23 | blast007 | (this is a desktop I'm using, btw) |
| 01:03.31 | short_circuit | Ah |
| 01:04.08 | blast007 | I guess I'd probably need a new cooler to run the i7 as I'm using the stock cooler that came with the i3 |
| 01:04.08 | short_circuit | I can't remember the last refurb intel I bought was.. *looks* |
| 01:05.25 | blast007 | my newest desktop PC is technically a 4th generation Intel architecture, but it's marketed as a 5th generation (an i7-5930K) |
| 01:05.58 | short_circuit | Ah. Last processor I bought was to replace a bad one in the next room. A E8400. |
| 01:06.18 | blast007 | that's a 6-core 12-thread beast from 2014 |
| 01:06.39 | blast007 | base clock of 3.5GHz all cores, but I have it water cooler and overclocked to 4.2 |
| 01:06.52 | short_circuit | mmMMmm I miss watercooling |
| 01:07.03 | short_circuit | Dangerden |
| 01:07.42 | short_circuit | That's quite a bit of processing. 8O |
| 01:07.54 | short_circuit | My old rig is REALLY old. |
| 01:08.06 | blast007 | that's my VR machine |
| 01:08.14 | blast007 | I went a little crazy on it.. |
| 01:08.30 | short_circuit | Depends on the VR ;) |
| 01:08.48 | blast007 | it's probably time for an upgrade to it, really.. |
| 01:09.20 | short_circuit | I'm hopelessly outclassed over here XD |
| 01:12.26 | blast007 | I want to build a Ryzen machine at some point, and Ryzen 3000 desktop CPUs are sooo good. Even the Ryzen 5 3600 is on par or better than my i7-5930K. |
| 01:13.36 | short_circuit | I was thinking threadripper a while ago. But now... I'm focusing money on my lab. |
| 01:14.03 | blast007 | TR has a limited target market. |
| 01:14.05 | short_circuit | Lightining detector is done and I'm working now on a homebrew siesmometer. |
| 01:24.17 | blast007 | hmm, maybe don't enable the Vulkan renderer in Chromium: https://linuxreviews.org/Chromium_79_Has_Experimental_Vulkan_Support_And_You_Should_NOT_Enable_It |
| 01:24.45 | blast007 | I did get a couple "GPU fault detected" messages in dmesg from enabling that option |
| 01:25.08 | short_circuit | Thanks! |
| 01:26.39 | blast007 | (I'm using an AMD GPU in this system cuz I needed a bit more horsepower to upscale PS2 games to 1080p) |
| 01:27.01 | short_circuit | :) |
| 01:28.53 | short_circuit | Quick check. Same wattage I7 bottom of the line puts me at 2/3's buld cost of the current silly fun project. Not worth it not knowing if it's supported... Well. Especially not knowing it's supported. |
| 01:30.13 | short_circuit | I fav'd the vulkan link. I know I ran across that in research but I'll research more tomorrow. I'm running out of things to do. Stupid virus. |
| 01:30.26 | short_circuit | Still waiting my test results. |
| 01:31.24 | short_circuit | Oh. And to the original excessive share.. Don't forget your arctic silver ;) |
| 01:33.39 | blast007 | arctic silver ftw |
| 01:33.52 | blast007 | I also have their cleaning solutions |
| 01:34.09 | blast007 | ArtiClean |
| 01:34.28 | short_circuit | ooOOoo... I'm still using isopropyl alcohol... Wait... |
| 01:34.39 | blast007 | old credit card + ArtiClean + coffee filters (cheap, disposable, lint-free cloth) |
| 01:35.13 | short_circuit | For a second I thought you might have just belated april fool punk'd me.But there it is |
| 01:35.14 | short_circuit | hehe |
| 01:35.41 | short_circuit | I spread with a fresh razor blade. |
| 01:36.26 | short_circuit | Hell. i've spread more heat sink compound than.. Well. I work with power amps so... yeah |
| 01:36.39 | blast007 | I don't spread the paste. I just make a line and cross my fingers that the heatsink spreads it out correctly... |
| 01:37.28 | short_circuit | I'm OCD to the max... I have to have a thin layer on both surfaces. Though recently I've learned. It can be very very thin and be more than enough. |
| 01:37.41 | blast007 | though, for my next build, I'll probably just use this instead of paste: https://www.amazon.com/Innovation-Cooling-Graphite-Thermal-Pad/dp/B07CKVW18G |
| 01:39.00 | short_circuit | Ok... Not to bias you. I hate those in commercial electronics. So .. Uhm... try it and let me know what you think with psensors or whatever you use. |
| 01:39.46 | blast007 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpphKzmDiJM |
| 01:39.53 | short_circuit | as compared to some known factor |
| 01:40.47 | short_circuit | watching now |
| 01:43.21 | short_circuit | Used for decades and still reusable... bulls... |
| 01:44.22 | short_circuit | true. Doesn't dry out. |
| 01:45.47 | blast007 | yeah, that for me is big. I keep my systems for a long time, and... there's probably some that I *should* have repasted at least once or twice by now. |
| 01:46.56 | blast007 | still use a system that I built in 2011 |
| 01:47.57 | blast007 | and the one I'm on right now I build in 2012 |
| 01:48.19 | blast007 | never have repasted either since they were built |
| 01:48.24 | short_circuit | Now that you say that. The factory, crap, heat sink compound this Acer came with WAS dried up. However.. Arctic ver any has never in my years of experience. So... yeah.. But these thermalpads due retain a memory of compression and if you don't lie them back down, assuming they didn't tear, exactly as they were you have to wait a while to maybe get your original performance back. Maybe. |
| 01:48.53 | short_circuit | I have replaced numerous 'thermal pads' profesionally by necessity. |
| 01:49.35 | short_circuit | Sorry. had to pee. And a spider was in the toilet so ... uhm.. target practice.. Resuming video half way through. |
| 01:50.16 | short_circuit | And yes! dried up HS compound does lead to component failure. |
| 01:50.20 | blast007 | I can't recall if I used any of the stock thermal pads with my CPUs.. I feel like I probably scraped them off and did Arctic Silver 5 |
| 01:50.35 | short_circuit | Here too. |
| 01:52.07 | short_circuit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.28 | short_circuit | Yes I'm further along in the video |
| 01:52.44 | blast007 | yeah, that was silly.. don't want oils from your fingers on the pads |
| 01:55.30 | short_circuit | Pause. Yes! Yes you can cut multiple carefully to cover the whole die! Please do! |
| 01:55.57 | blast007 | they also do have a 40x40mm size |
| 01:55.59 | short_circuit | Just please don't allow overlap people. No overlap at all! And cut careful |
| 01:56.51 | short_circuit | And don't mix new and old pads! |
| 01:57.00 | short_circuit | I'm talking to the general public |
| 01:57.57 | short_circuit | Anywho. They can get old and after a heavy duty life they can rip when you remove the hsf. Just saiyan ;) |
| 01:58.19 | blast007 | the AM4 AMD CPUs have a 37.4x37.6 mm head spreader |
| 01:58.51 | short_circuit | j"over fifty uses" Not over the long term. |
| 01:59.21 | short_circuit | 3.7 by 3.7 cm hs area?!?! |
| 01:59.37 | short_circuit | How many watts? |
| 01:59.39 | blast007 | s/head/heat/ |
| 02:00.47 | short_circuit | That could pass 300 watts theoretically. |
| 02:00.48 | blast007 | well, the Ryzens 3000's go from 65W TDP up to 105W |
| 02:01.25 | short_circuit | Oh... So no big deal. 100 watts across that area is fine. |
| 02:02.45 | blast007 | my i7 is 140W TDP, though TDP isn't comparable across chips, really |
| 02:03.25 | blast007 | you'd probably like the Gamers Nexus youtube channel |
| 02:03.42 | short_circuit | Working with T chips lately we're talking 35 to 45 watts. So no biggie for 4cm squared. |
| 02:03.44 | blast007 | they sometimes do crazy overclocking with liquid nitrogen |
| 02:05.51 | short_circuit | I'm done with active liquid cooling antiques a long time ago. Though sounds interesting. bout 15 or 16 years ago was running a danger den dual amd thoroubred k7d liquid cooled rig with the radiator, a chevy truck heater core, tied to a window unit. I had cored temps fully loaded at room temp according to sensors. |
| 02:06.17 | short_circuit | Actually |
| 02:06.42 | short_circuit | I belive you were 'ole school when I was a pleeb back then. |
| 02:07.32 | short_circuit | I kinda tutored into linux mostly under JeffM but Brad and Wegstar and you among several others got me up to speed in linux |
| 02:08.36 | short_circuit | Heck! I was even buying BZ shwag back then ;) |
| 02:09.20 | blast007 | Gamers Nexus also does teardowns/reviews of a lot of hardware. Just recently they made some device to test CPU coolers. Basically a controlled heat source you can mount a cooler to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmTOJP4KOyk |
| 02:09.50 | short_circuit | KEWL! *WATCHES* |
| 02:10.18 | short_circuit | I've some similar stuff. I love audio power amps. |
| 02:18.27 | short_circuit | Ok 1/3 in. This looks lab good so far :) |
| 02:29.19 | short_circuit | If they are honest this is awesome.. 1/2 way through. |
| 02:37.18 | short_circuit | That was bad arse! Very good video on how to properly compare coolers. 8~D |
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