irclog2html for bzflag on 2001.11.19

04:54:19vogon_jeltzis back (gone 07:40:46)
06:30:22captain_protonBZFlag: you there?
06:31:32vogon_jeltz<BZFlag> no
06:32:34vogon_jeltzhttp://www.hardocp.com/articles/xbox/pic15.html <-- ooh, l33t-o, the chip at the heart of the XBox :)
06:34:15captain_protonn-force is pretty :)
06:35:43vogon_jeltzhttp://www.hardocp.com/articles/xbox/pic16.html <-- mmm... enhanced GeForce3
06:37:13captain_protonwell, i'm back out
06:37:28captain_protonBZFlag: if you return, you should put elevated/rotated bases in e4
06:46:25HEMIvogon_jeltz, another [h]ardOCPer, eh? :)
06:47:19vogon_jeltzheh
07:11:14captain_protonanybody awake?
07:11:20vogon_jeltzyeah
07:12:55captain_protonhi
07:18:28vogon_jeltzhi
07:19:30captain_protonwhats up?
07:20:14BZFlagis not here
07:21:05captain_protonhi BZFlag
07:21:06captain_protoni think
07:21:14vogon_jeltzhehe
07:21:31BZFlagcaptain_proton: which levels are yours? someone mentioned a secret room?
07:22:00captain_protonBZFlag: /me is confused
07:22:27captain_protonwhat are you talking about?
07:24:54BZFlagyou made some maps?
07:25:24captain_protoni've made some but none that are in general use
07:25:27BZFlagI plan to add elevated/rotated bases and change :6667 over to have the bases that way for testing.
07:25:41BZFlagyou made a secret room on one?
07:27:00captain_protonnot that I know of
07:27:11captain_protona close friend made 'decks' - that has a secret room
07:29:04BZFlagknow how the teleporters work on decks? I was trying to figure that out.
07:29:17BZFlagI guess it's on SF now, I should check.
07:29:36captain_protoni can explain it to you -
07:29:43captain_protonok - there's a building in the center
07:29:56captain_protonthe teleporter on top of that leads to the teleporter on the very top of the world
07:30:13captain_protoneach corner has a teleporter - those lead across (in an 'x' pattern)
07:30:16BZFlagright.
07:30:31captain_protonthe sneaky bit is - the top 1/2 of the teleporter on the top leads to the secret room
07:30:50captain_protonnot quite sure how he managed that one, but it works
07:30:52BZFlagboth to one on top of the building and the one on top.
07:31:02captain_protonjust the one on the very top
07:31:04BZFlagthat's what I was wondering... /me gets the SF file.
07:31:18BZFlagno, I've used the one on the tower top too.
07:31:24captain_protonreally?
07:31:26captain_protonchecks
07:31:28BZFlagyep
07:32:21captain_protonthe one on the tower doesn't lead to the secret room
07:32:30captain_protononly the one on the platform
07:32:31BZFlagmeet me there?
07:32:43captain_protoni'll start us up a private - one moment
07:32:49BZFlagah, better.
07:32:57vogon_jeltzheh
07:33:14vogon_jeltzwill not make another BZFlag map until someone implements collision detection the right way
07:33:14captain_proton128.138.3.20:6667
07:33:29captain_protonsee ya there
07:33:43vogon_jeltzis coming too, if you don't mind
07:33:44captain_protonoops :P
07:34:19captain_protonok - working now
07:34:28vogon_jeltzscratch that... my 3D drivers seem to have shit themselves again
07:35:10BZFlagthat's ok. reading source now.
07:35:40BZFlaglooks like there are 3 teleporters. one that goes nowhere and 2 that have no border but do go someplace.
07:38:17vogon_jeltzw00t! 3D drivers are fixed :)
07:38:51vogon_jeltzbanishes his broken Glide libs to the land of inodes with non-zero dtime
07:39:40vogon_jeltzruns two simultaneous glxgears demos
07:40:58vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: care to help me with a port of BZFlag to SDL? :)
07:41:45vogon_jeltzif I do it right, you should be able to finish your HUD overhaul a hell of a lot faster than planned
07:45:25BZFlagvogon_jeltz: what kinda help?
07:45:44vogon_jeltzBZFlag: just general help from someone who knows SDL and BZFlag better than me :)
07:46:01BZFlagmail the -dev list, I'll reply when I can help
07:46:11vogon_jeltzthe first thing I'll have to do is rip out most of src :/
07:46:30vogon_jeltzs/most/some
07:46:48BZFlagugh, can't get back to my paused game. ;-)
07:47:03vogon_jeltzhah
07:48:12BZFlagkilled it.
07:48:44captain_protonjust killed the server...
07:49:37captain_protonvogon_jeltz: i will over christmas - don't have time now
07:50:32vogon_jeltz"Spaghetti-Os Discontinued As Franco-American Relations Break Down"
07:51:45BZFlagso who's going to test/update the elev/rot bases patch? ;-)
07:52:24captain_protonBZFlag: i can do it over thanksgiving
07:54:36BZFlagsweet! I expect the pos[XYZ] -> pos[3] change will effect it.
07:54:54BZFlagit would also be nice to have flags shaded by height on the enhanced radar.
07:56:36captain_protoni know nothing about the enhanced radar - i only moved some code in it (which i believe is already in the patch) to draw base outlines over the buildings
07:57:13BZFlagyes, I think that is in there.
07:57:17BZFlagchecks...
07:57:27captain_protonwait a moment - what is pos[XYZ]->pos[3]??
07:57:44vogon_jeltzis confused, too :)
07:58:37BZFlagyep. it's there.
07:59:01BZFlagbzfs change in obstacle struct.
08:00:42captain_protonwhat?
08:00:50captain_protonhow does the change affect things?
08:01:19BZFlagjust that the source struct was renamed to ease handling in some of the code.
08:01:33captain_protonooh - once e4 is out, I can put up the world that vogon_jeltz 'wuvs'
08:01:37BZFlagso patches that use the old var names will fail now and need to be updated.
08:01:50BZFlagwhich world?
08:01:54captain_protonCTF decks
08:02:06BZFlagplease add worlds to SF ;-)
08:02:31captain_protonreminds BZFlag that he has already added the world that he is custodian for
08:02:33vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: wtf?
08:02:40vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: what world is that?
08:02:47vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: and when did I say 'wuv'? :)
08:03:02captain_protonvogon_jeltz: read up 3 lines
08:03:11captain_protonand you said that right after you & I played it
08:03:23captain_proton(I made it when I first wrote rot/elev bases)
08:03:30BZFlagshakes captain_proton's hand and give great contrats.
08:04:14captain_proton?
08:07:00vogon_jeltzhttp://www.theonion.com/onion3741/wdyt_3741.html
08:07:28captain_protonvogon_jeltz: i'll be happy to help you with the SDL stuff come about Dec. 20
08:08:07vogon_jeltzk
08:08:22vogon_jeltzmight be done by then if he is sufficiently bored
08:09:02captain_protonreminds vogon_jeltz to put all the interface stuff in one place while he SDL'izes
08:09:34captain_protonwell, i have class in 5:49, so I'm going to bed
08:09:35captain_protonnight everyone
08:09:58vogon_jeltznn
08:10:16BZFlagcaptain_proton: for the bzw SF entry.
08:10:18vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: what's your birthdate?
08:10:26vogon_jeltzlooks up cappy's horoscope on The Onion
08:11:40BZFlagwell. nite. try out the flag on box cvs and work on the rot/elev base patch. ;-)
14:07:07vogon_jeltzis away: None of your business () :-)
14:07:23vogon_jeltzis back (gone 00:00:02)
15:48:52captain_protonahh....green's theorem at 9:00 AM on Monday...
15:49:08captain_protonwould somebody care to bash my head in?
15:50:07vogon_jeltzhaha
15:50:15vogon_jeltzbashes captain_proton's head in
15:50:36captain_protonthanks
15:51:12vogon_jeltzhttp://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,472140-60,00.html <-- oh my god, this almost makes me want to switch back to Windows :(
15:51:30vogon_jeltzlook at that screenie
15:52:22captain_protonlol
15:52:48vogon_jeltzMicrosoft Flight Simulator 2002
15:55:12vogon_jeltzhttp://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,472140-54,00.html
15:56:04vogon_jeltzhttp://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,472140-55,00.html
15:58:39vogon_jeltzhttp://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,472140-29,00.html
16:00:02vogon_jeltzhttp://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,472140-23,00.html
16:00:48vogon_jeltzhttp://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,472140-17,00.html
16:00:57captain_protonvogon_jeltz: i can click 'next'
16:01:24vogon_jeltzis picking 7 of about 50 that he thinks look great
16:02:36vogon_jeltzhttp://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,472140-8,00.html <-- last one
16:03:56vogon_jeltz(keep in mind, many of these were from beta builds)
16:12:31captain_protontakes one of the other babylonia admins out to the gallows
16:13:15vogon_jeltzhah
16:13:55captain_protonhe wrote a floater (continually changes pid and name) that accesses all the terminals and sets random fg/bg colors
16:14:52vogon_jeltzahahahah
16:15:09vogon_jeltz"Death's too good for him."
16:17:29captain_protonwants a new mozilla
16:23:13vogon_jeltzme, toop
16:23:16vogon_jeltztoo, even
16:23:29captain_protonleft a nasty message for the bad admin
16:24:36captain_proton"stop fucking around with babylonia or i rip your throat out"
16:24:51vogon_jeltzis more of a BOFH type, and he would give the guy the Honor of the Star
16:29:44captain_protonhonor of the star?
16:30:13captain_protonrm -rf *?
16:30:16vogon_jeltznope
16:30:24vogon_jeltzyou star out their password in /etc/shadow
16:30:35vogon_jeltz* doesn't correspond to any passwords
16:30:42vogon_jeltzthus, their account is inaccessible
16:30:54captain_protonwell, he has the root pw
16:31:01captain_protoni was thinking of changing root and removing him from wheel
16:31:10vogon_jeltzthat's why you change root to nobody, and make nobody root
16:31:16vogon_jeltz;)
16:31:44vogon_jeltzit's also great anti-#4X0R protextion
16:31:48vogon_jeltzprotection, even
16:32:22vogon_jeltzthink about it: do 1337 #4X0RZ usually go for nobody's password? :)
16:32:48captain_protonwell, I do...
16:32:53captain_protonbut kiddies don't
16:33:10vogon_jeltzhehe
16:33:38captain_protonalways go for nobody first - its usually not buttoned down and if you can get a shell you're as good as root
16:34:17vogon_jeltzhah
16:34:30vogon_jeltzthat's why I always make sure my nobody accounts have the Honor of the Star
16:34:54vogon_jeltznobody:*:11569:0:99999:7:::
16:35:13vogon_jeltznobody:x:99:99:Nobody:/:
16:35:20vogon_jeltzand don't grant them shell access, either :)
16:35:48vogon_jeltzwonders if changing nobody's home directory to /dev/null would be a good idea
16:39:55captain_protoncranks up the Samuel Barber
16:40:20vogon_jeltzhuh?
16:42:31captain_protonmusic
16:42:58vogon_jeltzahh
16:44:49captain_protondoing some more work on duquawk
16:46:32captain_protonits going to be the most uber-l33t distro ever
16:47:01captain_protonjust because of the wumps
16:47:18vogon_jeltzwtf are the wumps?
16:47:21captain_protonvogon_jeltz: do you use vesafb?
16:47:35vogon_jeltzno
16:47:43captain_protonthen i can't show you right away
16:47:50captain_protonever read 'the wump world' by bill peet?
16:48:22vogon_jeltznope
16:48:28captain_protonhmmm
16:48:32captain_protonits extra hard to explain then...
16:50:00captain_protonhttp://www.murrieta.k12.ca.us/alta/grade3/wump/ <-- there's a pic of the cover - those are wumps
16:51:24vogon_jeltzheh
16:51:35captain_protonwe're going to have wumps all over duquawk
16:51:47captain_protonfor instance: I made a kernel patch: the vesafb boot logo is a wump
16:52:17vogon_jeltzhaha
16:52:36vogon_jeltzPH34R TEH WUMPS!
16:52:44vogon_jeltzPH34R TEH WUMPZ!
16:52:52captain_protonalways
16:53:46captain_protonTEH WUMPZ W|LL 0WN JOO!
16:54:15vogon_jeltzheh
19:24:20captain_protonBZFlag: you there?
19:31:02BZFlagyeah. is GM really broken on CVS servers?
19:39:36BZFlagnotes a missing playerid patch and adds it...
19:49:27BZFlagcommitted, and my servers updated to that codebase.
21:31:47captain_protongeez BZFlag...now i have to recompile
21:32:52BZFlagheh, compiling bzflag, it's a way of life. ;-)
21:33:10BZFlagthe playerid patch was just on the server end.
23:59:24captain_pistachiois ready to do bases

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