| 00:35:17 | iLL_away | hey all |
| 00:35:29 | iLL_away | I got a suggestion when it comes to the new bzflag CTF games |
| 00:35:39 | iLL_away | seems you allow elevated fields and whatnot |
| 00:35:57 | iLL_away | people aren't gonna bother with the flags if its easier just to kill people |
| 00:36:11 | iLL_away | so you may wanna rework it so if you die you team loses a point |
| 00:36:24 | iLL_away | and the only positive points are for flag captures |
| 00:36:29 | iLL_away | or at least make it an option |
| 00:36:52 | iLL_away | and on a capture the team gets as many points as players on that team |
| 00:36:58 | iLL_away | just a suggestion heh |
| 00:37:38 | iLL_away | that way i'll be flag centric |
| 00:37:48 | iLL_away | and teamwork will definately come into play |
| 00:38:02 | iLL_away | perhaps i'll post this to the forum too |
| 00:38:36 | captain_proton | iLL_away: i'm working on a world where teamwork will be absolutely necessary |
| 00:40:49 | iLL_away | ah |
| 00:41:02 | iLL_away | i'm still gonna post and see what it draws |
| 00:41:15 | iLL_away | I think if its implementable what i've said is a good idea |
| 00:41:28 | iLL_away | doesn't usually feel so strongly about his own suggestions heh =) |
| 00:49:30 | iLL_away | my post sounds a bit better |
| 00:49:37 | iLL_away | used caps in subject thats a bit annoying sorry heh |
| 00:56:57 | iLL_away | captain I got a world like that to heh |
| 00:56:59 | iLL_away | =) |
| 00:57:00 | iLL_away | btw |
| 00:57:15 | iLL_away | if I could figure out how to make it a CTF world |
| 00:57:21 | iLL_away | the world is mostly bunker based |
| 00:57:29 | iLL_away | you can't get shot in it but you can fire out of them |
| 00:57:42 | iLL_away | you can get shot if people jump and time the fire just right though heh |
| 01:29:11 | vogon_jeltz | is away: Quake3 |
| 01:44:52 | iLL_away | thats it i'm officially making a cheat tank |
| 01:45:00 | iLL_away | to take care of traitors |
| 01:45:05 | iLL_away | and obvious cheaters |
| 01:46:28 | iLL_away | is there a way I can make it look different then the rest? |
| 01:46:39 | iLL_away | that way everyone will know i'm there to clean out the cruft? |
| 01:46:45 | vogon_jeltz | how so? |
| 01:46:58 | iLL_away | I dunno like get it to run a different color or something |
| 01:47:02 | vogon_jeltz | nope |
| 01:47:16 | iLL_away | this game really needs a cheat kicker |
| 01:47:20 | iLL_away | some kinda auto mechanism |
| 01:47:39 | vogon_jeltz | we're working on it |
| 01:47:41 | iLL_away | ie if you kill your teamates more then x times in 20 min you get banned from server for 1 hour |
| 01:47:57 | iLL_away | I don't mind the cheat tanks as much |
| 01:48:04 | iLL_away | I can usually hold my own against most of them |
| 01:48:12 | iLL_away | accept when they're invincible |
| 01:48:33 | vogon_jeltz | is away: afk; dinner |
| 01:48:35 | vogon_jeltz | bbl |
| 01:48:38 | iLL_away | ok |
| 01:48:49 | iLL_away | I wouldn't mind the cheating if the tanks were labelled as cheats heh |
| 01:48:56 | iLL_away | =P |
| 01:49:12 | iLL_away | that way you can tell when you're unevenly matched |
| 02:25:50 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:37:17) |
| 02:27:53 | BZFlag | I always set my nick so people know I'm invincible |
| 02:28:16 | BZFlag | captain_proton: explain: <captain_proton> iLL_away: i'm working on a world where teamwork will be absolutely necessary |
| 02:28:50 | BZFlag | I'm thinking that the player that does the team capture should get as many points as there are killed team members |
| 02:30:33 | captain_proton | BZFlag: its a team world where teams actually have territory to protect |
| 02:30:46 | captain_proton | BZFlag: about your idea: yes |
| 02:30:47 | BZFlag | explain? |
| 02:31:10 | BZFlag | what does protecting territory mean? |
| 02:31:20 | captain_proton | well, its all kinda in one big building |
| 02:31:33 | BZFlag | tanks are places randomly when the spawn after a killm |
| 02:31:35 | captain_proton | there are ways to get in to the building (for after-death spawns), but not out |
| 02:31:45 | BZFlag | ah, so this is above ground. |
| 02:31:52 | captain_proton | some of it is |
| 02:32:10 | captain_proton | and each team has their base |
| 02:32:16 | captain_proton | but there are many passages between bases |
| 02:32:19 | BZFlag | I plan to expand the tank and flag spawning code to spawn on buildings if -fb is in use. |
| 02:32:43 | captain_proton | so in order to protect the flag, a good number of players need to hang out near the base |
| 02:32:56 | captain_proton | one thing I'd like to see: hiding who has a team flag |
| 02:33:03 | BZFlag | why? |
| 02:33:23 | captain_proton | well, in this world, there will be no flags other than team flags |
| 02:33:36 | BZFlag | ah. /me ponders that. |
| 02:33:50 | captain_proton | imagine a group of players all raiding another base - then they split off into different passages |
| 02:34:07 | captain_proton | the other team has to look at them all instead of just hunting one of them |
| 02:34:11 | captain_proton | :) |
| 02:34:25 | captain_proton | well, i'm off to fix a laser - might pop in on a friends computer with a different nick later |
| 02:35:05 | BZFlag | k |
| 02:38:11 | fjive | greetings |
| 02:42:35 | algot | olá. |
| 02:42:39 | algot | hello ! |
| 03:01:14 | vogon_jeltz | is away: Aiee, killing interrupt handler |
| 03:02:32 | algot | hello ! |
| 03:02:38 | algot | help-me please. |
| 03:08:41 | HerrMoose | BZFlag: any further thoughts? |
| 03:42:42 | captain_proton | returns |
| 03:44:05 | captain_proton | BZFlag: player spawning on buildings would greatly decrease the strength of GM/laser |
| 03:48:09 | BZFlag | that's a Good Thing in my book. |
| 03:48:15 | BZFlag | got to run. |
| 03:49:57 | captain_proton | hi algot |
| 03:50:15 | algot | hello. |
| 03:50:35 | algot | I'm from brazil, and my englihs is very bad. |
| 03:51:20 | algot | who is de server to bzflag ? |
| 03:51:28 | captain_proton | server to bzflag? |
| 03:51:42 | algot | yes. |
| 03:51:59 | captain_proton | what do you mean? a server to play bzflag on? |
| 03:52:02 | algot | what server for bzflag ? |
| 03:52:29 | algot | yes. |
| 03:52:54 | captain_proton | when you enter 'join game,' there is an option called 'find server' - that will give you a list of running servers |
| 03:54:14 | algot | it is not running. not fund de server. server=0 |
| 03:58:30 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:57:15) |
| 04:16:49 | captain_proton | hi vogon_jeltz |
| 04:17:37 | vogon_jeltz | yo |
| 04:18:13 | | up yours |
| 04:18:13 | captain_proton | whats up? |
| 04:18:26 | | captain_proton: i'm not following you... |
| 04:18:26 | captain_proton | ibot, fuck you |
| 04:18:30 | captain_proton | lol |
| 04:18:48 | vogon_jeltz | not much |
| 04:23:59 | captain_proton | got a copy of "Alice" :) |
| 04:30:06 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 04:30:29 | captain_proton | one of the most screwed-up games of all time :) |
| 04:32:16 | vogon_jeltz | wonders if he can jog his memory as to any songs he likes but doesn't have |
| 04:32:47 | iLLf8d | hey guys |
| 04:32:49 | iLLf8d | I found uhm |
| 04:32:58 | iLLf8d | kinda a simplex inteface |
| 04:33:15 | vogon_jeltz | huh? |
| 04:33:19 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 04:33:22 | iLLf8d | its a voice progie |
| 04:33:31 | iLLf8d | called nautilus |
| 04:33:33 | vogon_jeltz | oh, OK |
| 04:33:41 | iLLf8d | would be good for a player to player communication |
| 04:33:50 | vogon_jeltz | ooh! new BOFH! |
| 04:33:50 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: for now anyway |
| 04:33:56 | vogon_jeltz | iLLf8d: not if you're playing on a *modem* |
| 04:33:57 | iLLf8d | I use it to talk to a buddie in australia |
| 04:34:06 | iLLf8d | how would it affect gameplay? |
| 04:34:15 | captain_proton | there's a bunch of code in bzflag to do just that, it was just never finished |
| 04:34:16 | iLLf8d | I talk to him on a modem at the moment just not playing bzflag |
| 04:34:17 | vogon_jeltz | a) it would send lag through the roof |
| 04:34:32 | vogon_jeltz | iLLf8d: BZFlag's netcode is the crappiest pile of junk I've ever seen |
| 04:34:40 | vogon_jeltz | iLLf8d: it works, but it's slow as hell |
| 04:34:50 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: that is why we are going to rewrite the protocol/netcode for 2.0 |
| 04:34:54 | Boney | hi |
| 04:34:55 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: precisely |
| 04:35:12 | vogon_jeltz | iLLf8d: b) we don't need voice comms for BZFlag |
| 04:35:17 | iLLf8d | yeah we do |
| 04:35:17 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 04:35:18 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 04:35:22 | vogon_jeltz | iLLf8d: it's not a very team-oriented game |
| 04:35:31 | iLLf8d | yeah but we need the cursing and threats |
| 04:35:32 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 04:35:34 | iLLf8d | muwahaha |
| 04:35:44 | vogon_jeltz | iLLf8d: those are served well enough by text messaging |
| 04:35:53 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 04:35:57 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: it could be though |
| 04:36:00 | iLLf8d | I want send motion video too |
| 04:36:00 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 04:36:01 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 04:36:05 | captain_proton | iLLf8d: no |
| 04:36:08 | iLLf8d | jjk |
| 04:36:09 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 04:36:10 | iLLf8d | sheesh |
| 04:36:12 | iLLf8d | relax |
| 04:36:24 | iLLf8d | you guys gotta loosen up |
| 04:36:32 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: not unless we add more team modes or modify the ones we have to require teamwork |
| 04:36:50 | vogon_jeltz | s/team/game/ |
| 04:37:00 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: as I told riker, I'm working on a world that will require teamwork |
| 04:37:18 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: and it will not be played widely :) |
| 04:37:24 | captain_proton | plus there are some ideas circulating to make CTF games more CTF oriented |
| 04:37:28 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: you don't know that :) |
| 04:37:39 | vogon_jeltz | points out that a more urgent priority would be a culling scheme |
| 04:37:57 | captain_proton | points out that an even more urgent priority is netcode |
| 04:38:01 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 04:38:03 | captain_proton | and cheaters |
| 04:38:13 | vogon_jeltz | all 3 of which will affect play on your team world |
| 04:38:24 | vogon_jeltz | has seen it, and it's no friend to lowish-end video hardware |
| 04:39:15 | captain_proton | lol - you've only seen about 1/20th of what it will become |
| 04:39:24 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I know... that's what scares me |
| 04:40:03 | vogon_jeltz | I get higher framerates in Q3 than in BZFlag... that's sad |
| 04:40:08 | captain_proton | sweet - #kungfu-movies on DALnet |
| 04:40:14 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: thats because carmack is a genius |
| 04:40:20 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 04:43:24 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: I'd like to get polygon culling underway as soon as possible |
| 04:43:59 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: wouldn't the simplest way of doing it be to just test the center of the far polygon against the 4 vertices of the near one? |
| 04:44:19 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: thats not culling |
| 04:44:34 | vogon_jeltz | wait, and it wouldn't work, either |
| 04:44:42 | captain_proton | that too |
| 04:44:54 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: I'll think about it for a while |
| 04:45:32 | captain_proton | i have the culling equation in a book, but its at my house |
| 04:45:32 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: I know this much about culling: 1) if a polygon is fully or partially obscured by another polygon, remove it from the list of polygons to be rendered |
| 04:45:49 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: only if its fully obscured... :) |
| 04:45:57 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: yeah, brain fart :P |
| 04:46:19 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: but you can get into subdivision to chop out the parts of the polygons that are obscured |
| 04:46:30 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: the video card can do that faster than you |
| 04:46:46 | captain_proton | you'd end up CPU lagging some people |
| 04:47:04 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: good point, but, AFAIK, the only video chips with hardware culling are the Kyro and Kyro II |
| 04:47:14 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: and possibly the GeForce3 |
| 04:47:32 | captain_proton | yeah gf3 does |
| 04:47:37 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: DRI is woefully lacking in z-buffer support, too |
| 04:48:09 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 04:48:23 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: it tends to cut my framerate by 20 fps and introduce jerkiness |
| 04:48:33 | captain_proton | ouch |
| 04:48:43 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 04:49:19 | vogon_jeltz | and Mesa 4.0 broke texturing somewhere in BZFlag, which means I have to run it with no textures whatsoever |
| 04:49:29 | captain_proton | chuckles |
| 04:50:00 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, that's why I'm getting a Ge2MX in about a month |
| 04:50:13 | captain_proton | smiles |
| 04:50:49 | captain_proton | i thought you didn't have an AGP port |
| 04:52:12 | vogon_jeltz | that's why I'm getting a card available in PCI :) |
| 04:52:24 | captain_proton | MX is available in PCI? |
| 04:52:57 | vogon_jeltz | yep |
| 04:53:08 | captain_proton | hmmm...news to me |
| 04:58:36 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/23116.html |
| 04:58:36 | vogon_jeltz | hehehe |
| 05:02:59 | captain_proton | LOL |
| 05:04:28 | vogon_jeltz | points out that it's not quite as good as the one from 1996 where they put bags of isopropyl alcohol in the boss's speakers |
| 05:04:43 | vogon_jeltz | ... and cranked the Halon delay to 0 |
| 05:04:57 | vogon_jeltz | ... and broke the boss's doorknob |
| 05:05:04 | vogon_jeltz | is away: Q3 |
| 05:31:54 | captain_proton | hi BZFlag |
| 05:32:14 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:27:09) |
| 05:32:53 | vogon_jeltz | just got back from beating a bot 50 to negative 10 in Q3 |
| 05:34:09 | vogon_jeltz | The Longest Yard is way too easy to suicide on :/ |
| 05:36:04 | captain_proton | wb vogon_jeltz |
| 05:36:13 | vogon_jeltz | nice to be back :) |
| 05:36:20 | captain_proton | i like 2k+1 episode 8 of BOFH |
| 05:36:21 | vogon_jeltz | did you see Enterprise on Wednesday? |
| 05:36:46 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: yeah, that's a good one :) |
| 05:39:53 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/20604.html |
| 05:39:59 | vogon_jeltz | BOFH 2K+1, ep 20 |
| 05:40:07 | vogon_jeltz | "Is /crap/ on the list?" |
| 05:40:09 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: no - i've queued it on irc though |
| 05:40:21 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: it was mighty good watchin' |
| 05:40:45 | vogon_jeltz | "OK. First question. Which option best describes the Quality of Service you've received from your Customer Representative - that's me - in the past 12 months. A. Excellent, B. Good, C..." |
| 05:40:45 | vogon_jeltz | "Is crap on the list?" The PFY butts-in, wanting some of the action. |
| 05:44:29 | captain_proton | heh - i'll get there |
| 05:46:44 | vogon_jeltz | "THE MAN'S TOOLKIT CONSISTS OF A HAMMER," Paul cries. "A BLOODY HAMMER! THAT'S ALL, JUST A HAMMER!" |
| 05:46:44 | vogon_jeltz | "Yes," I cry, "but when we call him out, he uses the hammer, and we get a replacement machine. With a replacement-part 12-month-from-install warranty." |
| 05:46:44 | vogon_jeltz | "F***ing Brilliant," the PFY echoes once more. |
| 05:46:44 | vogon_jeltz | "So you're giving him As and me Es?" he gasps. |
| 05:46:44 | vogon_jeltz | "Yes." |
| 05:52:56 | captain_proton | moonlighting crap software is a great one |
| 05:53:02 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 05:54:51 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/12493.html |
| 05:57:22 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/11886.html |
| 06:00:57 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/9416.html |
| 06:08:54 | captain_proton | damn that author is creative :) |
| 06:12:24 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 06:12:33 | vogon_jeltz | uptime wars! |
| 06:12:38 | vogon_jeltz | 10:09pm up 6 days, 5:55, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.08 |
| 06:29:33 | vogon_jeltz | is away: TV |
| 06:32:59 | captain_proton | 11:32pm up 14 days, 5:42, 11 users, load average: 1.01, 1.04, 0.79 |
| 09:05:43 | BZFlag | crap crap crap. |
| 09:05:51 | BZFlag | hates kdevelop so far |
| 09:26:21 | captain_proton | replaces the batteries in his mouse |
| 17:48:17 | algot | hello ! |
| 17:48:32 | algot | what the site from bzflag ? |
| 17:50:23 | Chestal | bzflag.org ? |
| 17:50:32 | algot | ok. |
| 17:50:36 | algot | tks. |
| 17:50:39 | Chestal | also look at the topic |
| 17:51:40 | algot | what is the server for play ? |
| 17:52:21 | Chestal | usually you can just use the server lsit from within bzflag (find server) |
| 17:52:42 | Chestal | if that doesn't work, try one of ducati.bzflag.org, boogie.bzflag.org, two.bzflag.org (there are more of course) |
| 17:53:04 | algot | Chestal, it is the problem. it not fund the server. |
| 17:53:14 | algot | my english is very bad. sorry. |
| 17:53:20 | algot | I'm from Brazil. |
| 17:53:27 | Chestal | ah, I'm from Germany |
| 17:53:46 | algot | good. |
| 17:53:47 | Chestal | the server lsit had problems durign the last days because of the sourceforge web server or something |
| 17:53:52 | Chestal | you might aslso try the following: |
| 17:54:32 | Chestal | start bzflag liek : bzflag -list bzflist://166.70.15.250/ |
| 17:54:47 | algot | ok. |
| 17:54:59 | Chestal | that skips the meta server list step, you can revert to the original way by usign bzflag -list default |
| 17:55:43 | algot | I am going to try |
| 17:56:04 | algot | ok. |
| 17:56:05 | algot | tks. |
| 17:56:23 | algot | hallo. wie geth's? |
| 17:56:39 | algot | she is my wife |
| 17:57:31 | algot | she is here. |
| 17:58:02 | algot | Chestal, hey. |
| 17:58:17 | algot | Chestal, the link not try. |
| 17:59:41 | algot | Ich habe viele gechchte mit kobold fur studire Deutche |
| 18:18:31 | Chestal | I was looking elsewhere. Hmm, your last sentence was strange :-) |
| 18:18:53 | Chestal | ibot: x en esp How are you, algot? |
| 18:18:54 | | Chestal: |
| 18:19:01 | | chestal: i don't know |
| 18:19:01 | Chestal | ibot: x en e How are you, algot? |
| 18:19:09 | Chestal | hmm |
| 18:19:14 | Chestal | ibot: x en sp How are you, algot? |
| 18:19:15 | | Chestal: |
| 18:19:25 | Chestal | this sucks. I thoguht he coudl translate into spanish |
| 20:10:21 | captain_proton | hi BZFlag |
| 20:20:50 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 20:21:12 | vogon_jeltz | I managed to have 200 rockets at the same time in Q3A without cheating |
| 20:23:15 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: thats nice |
| 20:23:44 | captain_proton | lol: thats not a hand scanner, thats a panini toaster! |
| 20:24:01 | vogon_jeltz | hehehe |
| 20:31:58 | Zig | hi |
| 20:32:08 | captain_proton | hi zig |
| 20:33:30 | Zig | VARNING FÖR MIN ANAKONDA!!? |
| 20:34:20 | captain_proton | ? |
| 20:36:56 | captain_proton | bizzare |
| 20:38:02 | tvon | captain_proton: you here? |
| 20:40:19 | captain_proton | yep |
| 20:40:45 | tvon | hey, do you know Lazy Kid? |
| 20:40:53 | tvon | he is a [meq] fellow isnt he? |
| 20:40:57 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 20:41:09 | tvon | someon using his normal handle is cheating his brains out on your sever |
| 20:41:13 | tvon | fyi and all |
| 20:41:13 | tvon | :) |
| 20:41:17 | captain_proton | hmmm... |
| 21:03:51 | captain_proton | oh no...i need a real cd burner FAST |
| 21:05:43 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 21:08:01 | captain_proton | 7GB left on my 53GB partition |
| 22:50:11 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: found another cheater |
| 22:50:12 | vogon_jeltz | Moelski |
| 22:53:48 | captain_proton | on my server? |
| 22:53:54 | vogon_jeltz | yes |
| 22:54:12 | vogon_jeltz | oh, and there was another one named moe, but I think he was the same guy |
| 22:54:14 | captain_proton | did you take care of it? |
| 22:54:17 | vogon_jeltz | yes |
| 22:54:56 | vogon_jeltz | I had one of my best games of BZ ever, too |
| 22:54:59 | captain_proton | i'm really looking into implementing temp/perm ban |
| 22:55:03 | captain_proton | :)\ |
| 22:55:04 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 22:55:15 | vogon_jeltz | I quit with a score of 22 |
| 22:55:24 | vogon_jeltz | and the lead |
| 22:55:59 | vogon_jeltz | I also think we need to implement a GM time limit |
| 22:56:56 | vogon_jeltz | and make Tim's GM lock warning more noticeable |
| 23:03:32 | captain_proton | i think instead of a message it should be a flashing red thing (sort of like the flag alert) |
| 23:03:51 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 23:04:08 | vogon_jeltz | swirly thing alert! :) |
| 23:04:30 | captain_proton | well - how about instead of messing with the current stuff, we concentrate on SDL/putting all UI stuff together |
| 23:04:37 | vogon_jeltz | okey dokey |
| 23:04:40 | captain_proton | then we can build the most kickass HUD ever |
| 23:04:45 | vogon_jeltz | plays a quick game of Kohan |
| 23:27:34 | Chestal | just tried galeon for the first time and is enthusiastic |
| 23:28:14 | captain_proton | Chestal: kindof a badly formed sentence there, don't ya think? |
| 23:30:32 | Chestal | well, I should ave used /me |
| 23:32:32 | captain_proton | yeah... |
| 23:34:07 | Chestal | still, Galeon looks liek a useable web browser |
| 23:34:30 | Chestal | I'm gettign the impression that the galeon developers are actualyl using it themselves |
| 23:34:45 | captain_proton | galeon is usable because its basically mozilla :) |
| 23:38:51 | Chestal | yes, but it replaces the abdomiable slow mozilla-gui by soemthign which is actually usable |
| 23:39:06 | Chestal | this XML-drivenb moz GUI is the slowest thing I've ever seen |
| 23:39:18 | Chestal | additionally, Galeon has some nifty features |
| 23:42:11 | captain_proton | yeah - the mozilla GUI needs work |
| 23:42:23 | captain_proton | but galeon is basically a stripped moz |
| 23:42:48 | captain_proton | thinks about an XML definition for the HUD... |
| 23:43:23 | Chestal | I don't know _why_ the moz GUI is so slow, but some thigns have to be sped up by a factor of >100 |
| 23:43:36 | Chestal | well, I'll try and switch to Galeon for my everyday browser |
| 23:45:16 | captain_proton | the GUI is so slow because its all done in javascript |
| 23:47:21 | Chestal | really? how peverterted |