irclog2html for bzflag on 2002.05.16

00:00:04vogon_jeltzhttp://www.icculus.org/~vogon/splash.png <-- BZFlag installer splash.
00:06:04vogon_jeltzhmm.
00:06:07vogon_jeltzTim, you here?
00:06:46vogon_jeltze4 was released this year, right?
00:22:40BZFlagvogon_jeltz: e4 was just before christmas last year iirc
00:22:52vogon_jeltzhm.
00:22:54vogon_jeltzOK.
01:33:49captain_protonBZFlag: widget would like to be unbanned
01:34:04vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: bz's not here.
01:34:15captain_protonugg
01:34:32captain_protonsucks to be widget then
01:34:45captain_protonis dreading tomorrow
01:35:17captain_protontomorrow begins my job search for a summer job in the *shudder* service industry
01:35:24vogon_jeltzeek!
01:35:54MrApathyCreamWould you like fries with that?
01:36:01vogon_jeltzhah.
01:36:19BZFlag was last seen on #bzflag 1 hours, 13 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying: vogon_jeltz: e4 was just before christmas last year iirc [Thu May 16 01:22:40 2002]
01:36:19MrApathyCreamibot, seen BZFlag?
01:36:28RCAM was last seen on #tuxboxproject 1 days, 22 hours, 2 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying: i am off to an old far away land called bed, i will be in a state known as sleep. Call me and wake me up at 407-448-2555 and you shall face your destiny. Have a nice day. [Tue May 14 04:33:53 2002]
01:36:28captain_protonibot, seen RCAM?
01:36:35captain_protonwe must find him
01:36:41MrApathyCreamBZFlag have anything to say?
01:36:42captain_protonwe're still waiting on that web page
02:00:49captain_pistachilooks at captain_proton
02:08:27captain_protonBZFlag: widget would really like to be unbanned
02:09:19BZFlagwhat was up with the join/leave spam?
02:09:32vogon_jeltzhe was having connectivity problems.
02:09:39BZFlagah, ok.
02:10:35BZFlagunbanned.
02:11:02WidgetMerci, captain_proton!
02:11:08WidgetMerci, BZFlag!
02:11:50BZFlagnp, connectivity issues resolved?
02:12:07captain_protonwants +o =)
02:12:25WidgetYes.
02:12:33BZFlagcool beans
02:12:47captain_protonwhoop
02:13:07vogon_jeltzOK, I need *someone* to test the BZFlag installer.
02:13:17WidgetSomeone with Windows?
02:13:20vogon_jeltzI'm sure as hell not going to re-up it without someone having tested it.
02:13:24vogon_jeltzWidget: no, Linux/x86.
02:13:32WidgetI shall test it.
02:13:34captain_protonvogon_jeltz: i'd test it, but i'm a windows kiddie now
02:13:39vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: YUO SUX0R1
02:14:03BZFlaginstaller for linux? /me does "apt-get install bzflag*"
02:14:19vogon_jeltzBZFlag: but that's not fun and GUI-y.
02:14:23captain_protonhaha
02:14:39vogon_jeltzBZFlag: I've gotten quite a few bitches from people over on #icculus.org about a loki_setup installer.
02:14:44Widgetvogon_jeltz: I'll test it on my Linux box.
02:14:49vogon_jeltzWidget: cool beans.
02:14:57captain_protonwhats with the cool beans?
02:14:59vogon_jeltzBZFlag: we can increase our user base if it works right.
02:15:02vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: no clue.
02:15:31WidgetAll the KDE users will only use BZFlag if it has a Loki installer.
02:15:35vogon_jeltzyeh.
02:15:39vogon_jeltzprecisely my point.
02:15:55Widgetlaughs at an Archimedes Plutonium thread posted onto sci.lang!
02:16:07vogon_jeltzw00t! Archimedes Plutonium!
02:16:09vogon_jeltzthat guy rules!
02:16:11WidgetYES!
02:16:21vogon_jeltzwith his Plutonium Totality Principle.
02:16:26WidgetI hear on sci.math people have some stronger feelings about him.
02:16:53vogon_jeltzI'm pretty sure he's just a troll.
02:17:05vogon_jeltzI find it hard to believe that he actually believes in what he spouts.
02:17:15BZFlag"cool beans" is an expression I've used for a long time. the story is long and not really worth telling. ;-)
02:17:25vogon_jeltzheh.
02:17:31BZFlagoff to watch enterprise.
02:17:53WidgetHe's _not_ a troll.
02:17:57WidgetHe really believes this stuff.
02:18:07WidgetWell, maybe he's the best troll ever.
02:18:13vogon_jeltzWidget: yeah, precisely my point.
02:18:28vogon_jeltzWidget: when someone gets good enough at trolling, they're indistinguishable from an actual crackpot.
02:18:32WidgetIf he is, then he's one of the few trolls to fool me.
02:18:44WidgetWhat is he... a dishwasher at Dartmouth?
02:18:48WidgetSo they've said.
02:18:59vogon_jeltzhe had a professorship in physics at UCLA, IIRC.
02:19:31WidgetOh, God.
02:19:38WidgetOK, that's it, I'm not applying to UCLA.
02:19:42vogon_jeltzhah.
02:19:54WidgetPlutonium@dartmouth.edu
02:20:01WidgetBut his current email is a Hotmail email.
02:20:10vogon_jeltzyeh.
02:20:20WidgetHave you ever replied to a Plutonium thread?
02:20:26vogon_jeltznope.
02:20:31vogon_jeltzread scads of them.
02:20:31WidgetGood!
02:20:42vogon_jeltzbut don't have Usenet posting access.
02:20:47WidgetOh?
02:20:59vogon_jeltznope.  I connect through a crappy free ISP.
02:21:09WidgetWell, use another news server.
02:21:23captain_protonugh i just had a pun battle
02:21:43vogon_jeltzdon't have the cash to pay for any form of internet connectivity, and can't find a decent free NNTP server.
02:21:55vogon_jeltzI wouldn't use it much, anyway.
02:21:57vogon_jeltzcaptain_proton: hah.
02:21:59Widgetvogon_jeltz: I will tell you one.
02:22:49Widgethttp://news.cis.dfn.de/
02:22:57vogon_jeltzw00t. thx.
02:23:59WidgetNP.
02:24:34vogon_jeltzP.
02:24:42vogon_jeltzis away: TV 'n' stuff.
02:24:47WidgetIt belongs to the Freie Universität Berlin.
02:27:43vogon_jeltzis back (gone 00:03:01)
02:33:03WidgetWow.... short programme?
02:33:25vogon_jeltzheh.
02:33:49vogon_jeltzno, my kid brother's working on homework and he can't be disturbed by the TV.
03:14:41WidgetAll hail the great Ludwig von Ludwig! All hail the great Plutonium!
04:14:06rumour has it nuum is gonna clean his bathroom on the remainder of this weekend
04:14:06captain_protonwhere the heck is nuum?
04:15:20captain_protonhmm
04:15:25captain_proton: sorry...
04:15:25captain_protonibot: you're a genius
04:15:32captain_protonnono ibot
04:15:36captain_protonthats a good thing
04:26:26Widgethihihi
04:27:35captain_protonhey
04:28:11WidgetCan I play you again?
04:28:43captain_protonnot right now
04:28:47WidgetOK.
04:33:30Widgethihihi, iLLf8d.
04:34:11iLLf8dlo widge
04:34:12iLLf8dhow goes it
04:35:23iLLf8dgoing to play some flag I bbiaf
04:35:28WidgetOooooooh.
04:46:18captain_protonibot, x gr en vre ti mas les
04:46:19captain_proton: vre ti mas les
04:46:29captain_protoni guess ibot doesn't do greek
04:53:29Widgethihihi
04:59:51WidgetHm.
04:59:54WidgetSomeone impersonating you?
05:00:03captain_protonnope
05:00:08captain_protongot kicked offline (again)
05:00:22WidgetThen how come it said:  (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: captain_pistachi!blah@dialup-87-74.Colorado.EDU)))
05:00:43iLL_BZFlaghmm
05:00:47Widgethihihi, iLL_BZFlag.
05:00:53iLL_BZFlagwidge
05:00:54captain_protonbecause it didn't disconnect from the server, just me from my ppp box
05:00:56captain_protonso i killed it
05:00:57WidgetiLL_BZFlag: Yes?
05:01:02Widgetcaptain_proton: Ahhh.
05:01:04iLL_BZFlagdude before I thought you said when you kill someone else you die
05:01:11iLL_BZFlagie you're not shot and die
05:01:16iLL_BZFlagthats a cheat is what I meant
05:01:25WidgetiLL_BZFlag: Yes, I figured that out. :)
05:01:26iLL_BZFlagbut did you see what I said about the respawn
05:01:41iLL_BZFlagI watch everything like a hawk
05:01:41WidgetiLL_BZFlag: But I was talking about two people who kill each other at the same time tend to respawn in the same place.
05:01:49iLL_BZFlagradar spawn placements etc...
05:01:57iLL_BZFlagmaybe
05:02:00WidgetiLL_BZFlag: So, no doubt there is an algorithm for spawning. You've probably figured it out.
05:02:01iLL_BZFlagnever noticed
05:02:16Widgetcaptain_proton can no doubt explain further.
05:02:23iLL_BZFlagyeah I can usually guess what 1/3 of the field i'll be in
05:02:24captain_proton?
05:02:37WidgetiLL_BZFlag: Tell captain_proton your theory.
05:02:39iLL_BZFlagI was telling widge that often I let people kill me so I respawn downfield
05:02:53iLL_BZFlagI can ususally figure out the 1/3 of the field i'll respawn on
05:03:04iLL_BZFlagi'd say about 70-80% of the time
05:03:33iLL_BZFlagcan't tell if it'll be on the sides tho
05:03:37iLL_BZFlagjust its length
05:03:55captain_protonum ok
05:04:09iLL_BZFlagI showed widge a few
05:04:28iLL_BZFlaglike if you get killed in their last 1/3
05:04:39iLL_BZFlagie w/in 1/3 distance of their base
05:04:49iLL_BZFlagyou'll usually respawn 1/3 away from your base
05:05:12iLL_BZFlagif you're 1/3 from your base (ie before the 1/3) you'll respawn around the same place
05:05:26iLL_BZFlagif you're past 1/3 from your base usually you'll respawn 1/3 from theirs
05:05:37iLL_BZFlagjust over 1/3 tho
05:05:52iLL_BZFlagie right before you hit the 1/3 mark driving for their flag
05:06:07iLL_BZFlagso often if I break the 1/3 and drive into a shot at the same time
05:06:19iLL_BZFlagI can respawn jump to w/in 1/3 distance of their flag
05:06:28so is the hardware pretty much set or are we still testing with diff options?
05:06:28captain_protonso?
05:06:35iLL_BZFlagbut at that point it can bone you cause you dunno which side of the field you'll be on
05:06:43iLL_BZFlagif they move the flag in the corner
05:06:52iLL_BZFlagyou could be a field width away
05:06:59iLL_BZFlagso meaning
05:07:13iLL_BZFlagyou can move downfield and endrun people in the middle by dying in the right spots
05:07:44iLL_BZFlagever notice how you play ctf
05:07:51iLL_BZFlagkill someone when you're running out at each other
05:08:00iLL_BZFlagyou're both 1/3 away from your bases when you shoot
05:08:04iLL_BZFlagthey die you keep running
05:08:19iLL_BZFlagbut they spawn 1/3 from you base right about the same time you're still running toward there
05:08:26iLL_BZFlagthey just got a free ride and it evened it up
05:08:30iLL_BZFlagthats one on one
05:08:35iLL_BZFlagnow add in other tanks to the mix
05:08:47iLL_BZFlagyou just put yourself behind the field
05:08:53iLL_BZFlagso you can get them front and back
05:08:58iLL_BZFlagsee my point
05:09:06iLL_BZFlagand
05:09:10iLL_BZFlagif someones running yoru flag back
05:09:28iLL_BZFlagand gotta get down there to shootem etc...
05:09:38iLL_BZFlagor if they're going for your flag and you wanna stop them
05:09:59iLL_BZFlagget killed just within 1/3 distance from their base and you'll respawn wi/in 1/3 of your own
05:10:10iLL_BZFlagto keep them from getting far with your flag
05:10:16captain_protonthats kind of how it works
05:10:17iLL_BZFlagdone rambling
05:23:42MrApathyCreamyou respawn based on how far you are from other tanks/bullets and the directions of other tanks to you
05:23:59MrApathyCreamIt tries to find the 'emptiest spot'
05:26:06iLLf8dhmm
05:26:19iLLf8dmaybe its coincidence where the action gets bottlenecked
05:31:02MrApathyCreamyup
06:22:39vogon_jeltzcan anyone with ops in #tuxscreen please kickban bowring?
06:22:47vogon_jeltzhe's a script that's harvesting URLs.
06:23:31vogon_jeltzsame goes for #handhelds.org.
08:56:43iLLf8dmay want to mention it in #openprojects
08:57:07iLLf8ddunno
18:57:35Chestalwhy is  bzflag-Bugs-544300 closed?
18:57:43Chestalit's still buggy, or did I oversee any chnages to cvs?
18:58:39ChestalI got a mail regarding this from sf today, but there was no new comment? has the status changed from open to close?
19:00:02Chestalok, technically the bug is fixed, but the related bugs are not, I'd happily open a new one :-)
19:23:28Chestalhi jolly
19:23:40jollyhey Ches
20:15:42akira_abend
21:32:36vogon_jeltzis away: AFK for 20 minutes or so.
21:53:22vogon_jeltzis back (gone 00:20:46)
21:53:35captain_protonhmm you were right
22:07:35arathornhi all
22:07:57Chestalhi ara
22:08:41arathornalmogaver was here ?
22:11:24Chestalehm, I think not
22:11:59arathornok ty for info..goning to see on ducati
22:12:04arathorncya all
23:08:38Widgethihihi, kappax & MrApathyCream.
23:08:52MrApathyCreamheya
23:09:41MrApathyCreamhmm scared him off
23:26:09MrApathyCreamhi/bye tim

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