| 00:02:29 | Widget | For a simple harmonic oscillator, does x = A sin(wt) or does x = A cos(wt)? |
| 00:03:27 | Widget | I didn't know the stats bot came here. |
| 00:03:42 | captain_proton | looks like its getting those stats from ibot's logs |
| 00:12:57 | jpablo | any team available to play ? |
| 00:16:47 | BZFlag | taD: leave ibot alone already. |
| 00:17:56 | iLL_Afk | captain_proton is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 40 times. |
| 00:17:56 | iLL_Afk | For example, like this: |
| 00:18:04 | iLL_Afk | captain_proton spoke a total of 126179 words! |
| 00:18:05 | iLL_Afk | captain_proton's faithful follower, Chestal, didn't speak so much: 113240 words. |
| 00:18:13 | iLL_Afk | agressive and likes to hear himself speak heh |
| 00:18:17 | iLL_Afk | muwahahaha |
| 00:18:33 | captain_proton | slaps iLL_Afk |
| 00:18:37 | captain_proton | mwahahahaha |
| 00:19:16 | captain_proton | iLLf8d is talking to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 244 times! |
| 00:19:23 | captain_proton | ? |
| 00:19:34 | captain_proton | expecting something? |
| 00:20:01 | BZFlag | me? nope. just headed home. |
| 00:20:01 | BZFlag | cya |
| 00:20:21 | iLL_Afk | wheres this lol |
| 00:20:24 | iLL_Afk | looks |
| 00:20:28 | captain_proton | bottom |
| 00:21:13 | iLL_Afk | Another lonely one was captain_proton, who managed to hit 147 times. |
| 00:21:15 | iLL_Afk | heh |
| 00:21:28 | iLL_Afk | agressive likes to hear himself talk and lonely heh |
| 00:22:21 | captain_proton | haha |
| 00:28:20 | taD | um |
| 00:28:27 | taD | why op? |
| 00:29:38 | captain_proton | because i'm worth it |
| 00:29:39 | captain_proton | grins |
| 00:29:48 | taD | ah I see |
| 00:29:54 | taD | self pride... |
| 00:30:03 | taD | slaps himsekf |
| 00:31:13 | captain_proton | i pride myself about my ego ;) |
| 00:31:22 | taD | yea yea |
| 00:31:31 | taD | and chestal too? |
| 00:31:41 | taD | the 2 big load mouths in the room hehe |
| 00:31:48 | taD | loud* |
| 00:49:48 | taD | sighs |
| 00:49:59 | dinah | whats wrong taD? |
| 00:50:15 | taD | sighs again and again |
| 00:50:35 | dinah | feeling a touch blue i see |
| 00:50:48 | taD | thinks the whole world should play bzflag on ducati, and see if it gets /.ed |
| 00:51:18 | dinah | wonders what "/.ed" means |
| 00:51:39 | taD | /. means slashdotted |
| 00:51:41 | taD | :) |
| 00:51:49 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-06-07 00:06:22 | MTV Movie Awards Webpage Pull a Lone Gunman | Slashback: Norwegian, Nader, Handheld | The Music Biz Is the New Book Industry | Feasability of Linux for Public-Access Labs? |
| 00:51:49 | taD | ibot slashdot |
| 00:51:55 | taD | slashdot.org |
| 00:52:19 | dinah | um sure... |
| 00:53:03 | taD | :) |
| 00:53:19 | dinah | well at least your happy now |
| 00:53:49 | taD | bangs his head on the wall and creates a rather large hole, about 7 inches in diameter |
| 00:54:10 | dinah | you think 7 inches rather large? |
| 00:54:40 | taD | bangs his head on the wall and creates a rather large hole, about 8094 inches in diameter |
| 00:54:58 | dinah | thinks an indecient thought about taD's seven inches |
| 00:55:59 | taD | thinks that aliens play bzflag, because that thought randomly appeared in his head |
| 00:56:24 | | :) |
| 00:56:24 | dinah | ibot: botsnack |
| 00:56:31 | dinah | rewards ibot |
| 00:56:33 | | ACTION kills all the morons |
| 00:56:33 | taD | ibot kill |
| 00:56:47 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 00:56:47 | dinah | ibot: botsmack |
| 00:56:58 | dinah | suports drug use in bots |
| 00:57:13 | | dinah is nothing but a low-quality thimbleful of onion-eyed fat-woman's stomach-bile. |
| 00:57:13 | taD | ibot insult dinah |
| 00:57:14 | | Edwin Meese made me wear CORDOVANS!! |
| 00:57:14 | taD | ibot yow |
| 00:57:39 | | taD is nothing but a beef-witted accumulation of unoriginal anal warts. |
| 00:57:39 | dinah | ibot insult taD |
| 00:57:57 | | everybody in the world is nothing but an off-color enema-bucketful of fobbing pods. |
| 00:57:57 | taD | ibot insult everybody in the world |
| 00:58:03 | dinah | thinks were missusing ibot... |
| 00:58:35 | | dinah was last seen on #bzflag 32 seconds ago, saying: thinks were missusing ibot... [Fri Jun 7 01:58:03 2002] |
| 00:58:35 | taD | ibot seen dinah |
| 00:58:43 | | taD: what? |
| 00:58:43 | taD | ibot die |
| 00:58:46 | | ACTION kills all the morons |
| 00:58:46 | taD | ibot kill |
| 00:58:57 | | taD: excuse me? |
| 00:58:57 | taD | ibot dinah |
| 00:59:21 | | OK, taD. |
| 00:59:21 | taD | ibot dinah is nothing but a low-quality thimbleful of onion-eyed fat-woman's stomach-bile. |
| 00:59:27 | | dinah is nothing but a low-quality thimbleful of onion-eyed fat-woman's stomach-bile. |
| 00:59:27 | taD | ibot dinah? |
| 00:59:57 | dinah | is thinking of hurting taD |
| 01:00:19 | taD | is thinking of leaving the planet in the next five min. |
| 01:01:03 | dinah | at least die artisticly alright? |
| 01:01:07 | Widget | Wonderful! Come visit earth! |
| 01:01:24 | taD | please visit http://www.peccavi.com/eliza/ |
| 01:01:48 | dinah | Widget: are there irc doodads for windowz? |
| 01:02:37 | taD | wants to eat some irc doodads |
| 01:03:08 | dinah | really some 14 year old i joined my team and doesnt know what irc is... |
| 01:03:19 | Widget | dinah: IRC doodads? |
| 01:03:22 | taD | LOL!!! |
| 01:03:25 | taD | um |
| 01:03:30 | taD | get trillian |
| 01:03:34 | taD | trillian.cc |
| 01:04:04 | dinah | so i should tell him to do what? |
| 01:04:10 | taD | get it |
| 01:04:12 | taD | download it |
| 01:04:16 | Widget | Trillian is horrible. |
| 01:04:16 | taD | and set it up |
| 01:04:18 | taD | brb |
| 01:05:10 | dinah | alright, his name is locke anyone know him? |
| 01:05:22 | taD | nope |
| 01:05:24 | taD | never |
| 01:05:29 | taD | thinks hes dumb |
| 01:06:32 | dinah | well i dont know him either and he joind my team out of the blue, which peeved me a bit... |
| 01:06:42 | taD | lol |
| 01:07:22 | taD | thinks hes dumb to join a the team he is currently on |
| 01:08:02 | dinah | pardon? |
| 01:08:17 | taD | ahem |
| 01:09:14 | taD | hey! |
| 01:09:29 | | mrapathycream was last seen on #bzflag 18 hours, 59 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: ;) [Thu Jun 6 07:10:11 2002] |
| 01:09:29 | taD | ibot seen mrapathycream |
| 01:09:41 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 01:09:56 | taD | :) |
| 01:17:51 | Widget | Does transmission occur at the critical angle? |
| 01:17:57 | | :) |
| 01:17:57 | Widget | ibot: botsnack |
| 01:18:02 | Widget | taD: taDsnack |
| 01:18:17 | Widget | taD's not as friendly as ibot. |
| 01:18:24 | dinah | i suppose not |
| 01:45:45 | jpablo | any team available to play ? |
| 01:46:13 | dinah | well i got two on ducati, if i could find a third... |
| 01:47:48 | jpablo | we are here waiting for someone. |
| 01:47:53 | jpablo | we are here waiting for someteam. |
| 01:50:11 | jpablo | lalala. |
| 01:50:41 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 01:50:42 | bzbot | Red: 3 players, score: -28 | Green: 4 players, score: 2 | |
| 01:50:48 | | rcam was last seen on #tuxboxproject 23 days, 22 hours, 16 minutes and 55 seconds ago, saying: i am off to an old far away land called bed, i will be in a state known as sleep. Call me and wake me up at 407-448-2555 and you shall face your destiny. Have a nice day. [Tue May 14 04:33:53 2002] |
| 01:50:48 | Widget | ibot: seen rcam |
| 01:54:03 | jpablo | Sadista: is At nàm vlaj? vlasy ready to play ? |
| 04:02:33 | captain_proton | Widget: ctcp version doesn't tell you anything |
| 04:02:50 | Widget | captain_proton: Most of the time it does. |
| 04:02:54 | captain_proton | well |
| 04:02:58 | Widget | captain_proton: Most people don't reset their CTCP version. |
| 04:02:59 | captain_proton | doesn't tell you anything useful |
| 04:03:05 | captain_proton | bah |
| 04:03:10 | Widget | Hab. |
| 04:03:47 | captain_proton | grins as he watches mozilla start up in 1.2 seconds |
| 04:14:23 | Widget | How? How? |
| 04:14:28 | Widget | How does this come to pass? |
| 04:14:55 | captain_proton | compiled without all the unneeded options |
| 04:14:57 | captain_proton | like mailnews |
| 04:16:05 | jpablo | lala, still no team wanting to play ? |
| 04:16:22 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:16:37 | captain_proton | if i had two of my teammates here i would |
| 04:17:28 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 04:17:29 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 04:17:53 | captain_proton | is reading the DIY NYC story |
| 04:18:06 | jpablo | well, any three people here want to play us ? |
| 04:18:13 | jpablo | unofficial. |
| 04:19:22 | jpablo | lalala |
| 04:21:30 | jpablo | ... |
| 04:21:36 | Widget | lalala |
| 04:22:00 | jpablo | hehe, |
| 04:22:17 | jpablo | i have two people+me here who want to play. |
| 04:22:25 | Widget | I might, later. |
| 04:22:28 | Widget | Right now I have work. |
| 04:23:09 | jpablo | :'-( |
| 04:44:32 | Widget | Done! |
| 04:44:40 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 04:44:40 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 04:44:43 | Widget | Still here? |
| 04:45:15 | captain_proton | is here |
| 05:25:27 | | mrapathycream: bugger all, i dunno |
| 05:25:27 | MrApathyCream | ibot, ship it? |
| 05:25:41 | captain_proton | heya apathy |
| 05:25:58 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 05:29:05 | MrApathyCream | When's the ship party? |
| 05:29:23 | captain_proton | ship party? |
| 05:29:33 | MrApathyCream | e6 ship party |
| 05:29:36 | captain_proton | oh |
| 05:30:04 | MrApathyCream | i'll bring the chips |
| 05:30:37 | captain_proton | pokes BZFlag |
| 05:30:57 | MrApathyCream | (X) (X) |
| 05:31:04 | MrApathyCream | oh never mind |
| 05:31:08 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:31:17 | vogon_jeltz | LOGLROMGOFL. |
| 05:31:22 | vogon_jeltz | YUO == WITTAY. |
| 05:31:32 | captain_proton | pokes vogon_jeltz |
| 05:31:37 | MrApathyCream | i knew that would unearth you |
| 05:32:27 | captain_proton | question is |
| 05:32:37 | captain_proton | is an unearthed vogon_jeltz better than a buried one? |
| 05:33:34 | vogon_jeltz | maybe. |
| 05:33:40 | vogon_jeltz | depending on my mood. |
| 05:34:00 | captain_proton | ok |
| 05:34:05 | captain_proton | is a JeffK better than a bured vogon_jeltz? |
| 05:34:20 | vogon_jeltz | yes. |
| 05:35:25 | vogon_jeltz | and if u say otharwies, yuo r porbably UNREALE TOURNMINT fan, and by simpal math, yuo = fag0t. |
| 05:35:50 | | bugger all, i dunno, mrapathycream |
| 05:35:50 | MrApathyCream | ibot, LOGLROMGOFL? |
| 05:36:04 | vogon_jeltz | it's LOL, OMG, and ROFL put together. |
| 05:36:28 | MrApathyCream | ah good, i thought it had to do with learing at girls, .... |
| 05:36:33 | Widget | Say you have a 9 V battery that powers two devices, which have a total resistance of 25 ohms. One of the devices is a nose hair trimmer that has a resistance of 80 ohms and uses .65 W. What's the resistance of the internal resistor and the other resistor (besides the nosehair trimmer) |
| 05:36:33 | MrApathyCream | couldn't figure out rest |
| 05:37:09 | vogon_jeltz | 42 and 13013. |
| 05:37:17 | captain_proton | simpal math |
| 05:37:28 | Widget | JeffK? |
| 05:37:57 | captain_proton | www.somethingawful.com/jeffk |
| 05:38:04 | Widget | I know. |
| 05:38:10 | Widget | Simpal math seemed reminiscent of him. |
| 05:38:17 | vogon_jeltz | it is. |
| 05:38:39 | MrApathyCream | join bzflag-english |
| 05:38:41 | vogon_jeltz | Widget: [vogon_jeltz] and if u say otharwies, yuo r porbably UNREALE TOURNMINT fan, and by simpal math, yuo = fag0t. <-- synthesized JeffK. |
| 05:38:44 | MrApathyCream | oops |
| 05:40:55 | vogon_jeltz | lol u donot speak AMAMRICAN liek teh rest fo us. america si teh only good contry, and TEH TERRORTITS r teh only 1s who thikn otharwise! NEVAR FORGET 8/11!!!11 |
| 05:43:06 | captain_proton | speaks AMAMRICAN |
| 05:48:02 | MrApathyCream | wishes he hadn't drank from aluminum cans for the past 71 years, and lost all cognitive thought |
| 05:48:35 | captain_proton | 71 years? |
| 05:48:42 | captain_proton | thought you said you were under 75 |
| 05:49:14 | MrApathyCream | no, you GUESSED i was 75, to which i was horribly offended |
| 05:49:36 | MrApathyCream | i'm only 72 |
| 05:49:46 | MrApathyCream | <spring chicken> |
| 05:49:47 | captain_proton | iLLf8d guessed you were 75 |
| 05:50:04 | MrApathyCream | ah, i have no memory you see |
| 05:51:53 | MrApathyCream | vogon image link? |
| 05:52:07 | BZFlag | who's going to OLS? perhaps we should have a party. ;-) |
| 05:52:40 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i'll go if you pay airfare and admission ;) |
| 05:52:52 | MrApathyCream | rcam's funding the whole thing |
| 05:53:12 | BZFlag | yeah, send the bill to one of rcam's "people" |
| 05:53:27 | | RCAM was last seen on #tuxboxproject 24 days, 2 hours, 19 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: i am off to an old far away land called bed, i will be in a state known as sleep. Call me and wake me up at 407-448-2555 and you shall face your destiny. Have a nice day. [Tue May 14 04:33:53 2002] |
| 05:53:27 | captain_proton | ibot, seen RCAM? |
| 05:53:53 | MrApathyCream | shall we call? |
| 05:54:10 | BZFlag | heh |
| 05:54:37 | captain_proton | he's been hibernating |
| 05:54:44 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: what image? |
| 05:54:53 | | rCaM was last seen on #tuxboxproject 24 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: i am off to an old far away land called bed, i will be in a state known as sleep. Call me and wake me up at 407-448-2555 and you shall face your destiny. Have a nice day. [Tue May 14 04:33:53 2002] |
| 05:54:53 | Widget | ibot: seen rCaM |
| 05:55:30 | MrApathyCream | image of vogon_jeltz, as everyone is has been represented in pixels |
| 05:56:48 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: Anymore todo on e6? |
| 05:57:59 | captain_proton | incorporate enhanced hud |
| 05:58:06 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:58:26 | MrApathyCream | You've got to thumb wrestle with Chestal over hud's radar first |
| 05:58:49 | MrApathyCream | Fonts are too small, imo |
| 05:58:52 | captain_proton | Chestal agreed with my proposition |
| 05:58:53 | BZFlag | looking at the suggesting falling patch now. |
| 05:59:16 | BZFlag | I'm considering releasing two versions. one with and one without the hud. thoughts? |
| 05:59:16 | captain_proton | make a config option to use the longer lines on radar, else use the short ones currently in CVS |
| 05:59:26 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:59:32 | BZFlag | to confusing? |
| 05:59:34 | captain_proton | we could conditionalize all the stuff in the patch and make it an option |
| 06:00:18 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: chestal won't like transparent radar |
| 06:00:27 | captain_proton | he can turn off blending then |
| 06:00:28 | captain_proton | ! |
| 06:01:45 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag; suggesting falling patch? |
| 06:02:28 | MrApathyCream | when switching out of BZFlag? |
| 06:09:52 | MrApathyCream | i vote for making it an option, not two binaries. (if it goes in) |
| 06:10:22 | Sadista | why not make it command line option ? |
| 06:10:27 | captain_proton | oh, its going in |
| 06:10:32 | captain_proton | stops his foot and breaks his shoe-phone |
| 06:11:13 | Sadista | later cofig-gui could be added |
| 06:11:28 | Sadista | (config-gui) |
| 06:11:46 | captain_proton | if its only a command line option nobody will find it |
| 06:12:24 | Sadista | you are kidding :-)) what OS are you running ? |
| 06:12:43 | captain_proton | linux |
| 06:12:43 | MrApathyCream | rofebl |
| 06:12:45 | captain_proton | but seriously |
| 06:12:53 | captain_proton | how many people actually read documentation? |
| 06:12:59 | Sadista | me |
| 06:13:01 | captain_proton | especially when you've been using the program for a while? |
| 06:13:10 | Sadista | yes |
| 06:13:39 | Sadista | like mgp -- after using it for a year, i found out switch 4 html export... |
| 06:14:04 | Sadista | seriously: first you can add command line option |
| 06:14:15 | MrApathyCream | adding the gui part is trivial. |
| 06:14:22 | Sadista | then if someone has spare time, gui can be added |
| 06:14:31 | Sadista | if it's trivial add the gui |
| 06:14:34 | MrApathyCream | it's being able to switch that's not exactly straight forward |
| 06:14:55 | MrApathyCream | not hard either |
| 06:15:32 | Sadista | but I dont program OGL and dont patch BZflag so I'm far from asking people to spend time on something that is not necesary |
| 06:15:54 | MrApathyCream | wonders what captain_proton has in his other shoe that he will now break |
| 06:16:04 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:16:09 | captain_proton | wonders if anybody got the reference |
| 06:16:34 | MrApathyCream | being 72, i assumed get smart |
| 06:16:39 | captain_proton | bingo |
| 06:17:04 | MrApathyCream | there was no reference to duct tape, so no macguyver |
| 06:18:24 | Sadista | back to the hud: |
| 06:18:59 | Sadista | it's nice but more difficult to see the shots |
| 06:19:06 | Sadista | when everything is mooving |
| 06:19:09 | captain_proton | more difficult to see the shots? |
| 06:19:13 | Sadista | you'll be lost |
| 06:19:23 | Sadista | mooving tanks and shots ... |
| 06:19:35 | Sadista | i dont know the englist term |
| 06:19:36 | captain_proton | hmm i haven't noticed that |
| 06:19:53 | Sadista | do you know netwars ? |
| 06:19:59 | Sadista | old netware game |
| 06:20:01 | captain_proton | no |
| 06:20:02 | MrApathyCream | aren't tanks and shots supposed to move? |
| 06:20:07 | Sadista | it had great radat |
| 06:20:47 | Sadista | I mean with the HUD seing radar shots over mooving tanks.... |
| 06:21:03 | MrApathyCream | ah, the transparent part |
| 06:21:17 | Sadista | yes, sorry 4 the english |
| 06:21:18 | MrApathyCream | yes, it is harder, i'd agree |
| 06:21:22 | captain_proton | maybe increase the opacity somewhat? |
| 06:21:25 | Widget | Argh. Accursed electrical circuits problem/ |
| 06:21:29 | MrApathyCream | yes, i think so |
| 06:21:41 | Sadista | 4 matches I would prefer no-hud version |
| 06:21:54 | Sadista | but the hHUD one would be probaably more fancy |
| 06:22:25 | Sadista | "synoptic" is the right word |
| 06:23:24 | MrApathyCream | the fonts are too small too. I got to drive up to a building (or something dark) to be able to read the players scores |
| 06:24:04 | Sadista | thats true, but when you die, it's ok. and while playing who cares ? |
| 06:41:20 | BZFlag | try out the lag patch I just commited? |
| 06:42:04 | captain_proton | care to remind me of the command to cvs up a 1.7 tree? |
| 06:44:15 | BZFlag | cvs up -Pdr v1_7 |
| 06:45:04 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 06:46:45 | MrApathyCream | massive land sounds now (like a shotgun) |
| 06:47:07 | MrApathyCream | but no fall thru |
| 06:47:40 | jpablo | lala |
| 06:48:12 | MrApathyCream | sound problem only exists on buildings it would appear |
| 06:49:09 | MrApathyCream | proton and i noticed you can't always jump from a roof |
| 06:50:29 | captain_proton | same sound problem here |
| 06:50:38 | iLLf8d | oh shit |
| 06:50:46 | iLLf8d | I haven't played bzflag in over an hour |
| 06:50:47 | iLLf8d | =( |
| 06:50:54 | captain_proton | oh NO! |
| 06:51:04 | iLLf8d | needs alcohol to compensate |
| 06:51:09 | iLLf8d | i'm loosing my edge |
| 06:51:21 | iLLf8d | losing even |
| 06:51:31 | MrApathyCream | breaks out his fry-daddy |
| 06:51:45 | iLLf8d | ok time to do a bit of team action |
| 06:52:03 | iLLf8d | joins a field and picks the color theres the most of then turns traitor muwahahhaa |
| 06:52:04 | iLLf8d | jk |
| 06:52:05 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 06:52:35 | iLLf8d | anyone think that would be acceptable if I call myself TraitorMoe? |
| 06:52:55 | captain_proton | you can ask |
| 06:53:09 | iLLf8d | we need something to lighten up the games |
| 06:53:11 | iLLf8d | HEY! |
| 06:53:18 | iLLf8d | how about a highspeed mode for runners in ctf.... |
| 06:53:24 | iLLf8d | the guys that go after the flag |
| 06:53:30 | iLLf8d | have them designated |
| 06:53:36 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag -> 'The Mole' edition |
| 06:54:38 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 06:54:44 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:55:53 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 06:56:12 | iLLf8d | does bzfs 1.7e4 support the -p -pr settings? |
| 06:56:37 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 06:56:43 | MrApathyCream | njust -p |
| 06:57:10 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 06:57:28 | iLLf8d | you guys associated with the freebsd package maintainer for bzflag at all? |
| 06:57:59 | iLLf8d | seems their latest is 1.7e4 |
| 06:58:25 | MrApathyCream | no idea |
| 06:58:53 | BZFlag | land sounds? |
| 06:58:59 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 06:59:07 | MrApathyCream | It would appear state = ONBUILDING isn't getting set anymore |
| 06:59:14 | MrApathyCream | you land over and over again. |
| 06:59:24 | BZFlag | ugh. |
| 06:59:39 | MrApathyCream | sometimes can't jump from buildings either, prolly cause of that too |
| 07:00:11 | BZFlag | hmm... |
| 07:01:25 | MrApathyCream | sounds like a woodpecker |
| 07:02:27 | BZFlag | ugh. ok, try now. =( |
| 07:02:36 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 07:02:58 | BZFlag | iLLf8d: e4 is the latest "release" version. |
| 07:03:25 | BZFlag | iLLf8d: e5 is the first with -pr. -p was in the old versions. |
| 07:04:41 | MrApathyCream | yes that seems to fix it |
| 07:04:47 | MrApathyCream | (both probs) |
| 07:05:10 | captain_proton | ? |
| 07:05:39 | MrApathyCream | new co |
| 07:05:41 | iLLf8d | so new e5? does it have the -pr and -p? |
| 07:05:47 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 07:05:55 | iLLf8d | hmm I may try to reinstall my firewall with linux so I can setup a bzfs |
| 07:06:25 | captain_proton | ooh nice comment |
| 07:06:27 | captain_proton | no more woodpecker |
| 07:06:42 | iLLf8d | woodpecker cider? |
| 07:06:47 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:09:22 | MrApathyCream | fullscreen hud in e8? |
| 07:12:24 | BZFlag | captain_proton: you like that huh? ;-) |
| 07:12:32 | captain_proton | yupyup |
| 07:12:38 | captain_proton | you know what i'd like even better? ;) |
| 07:15:15 | BZFlag | hmm... can't think of a thing. =) |
| 07:15:30 | captain_proton | sobs |
| 07:15:42 | BZFlag | just kidding. |
| 07:15:53 | captain_proton | i wrestle with your stinky wiki for 2 days and this is how you repay me |
| 07:16:10 | MrApathyCream | is that copyrighted? --> "stinky wiki" |
| 07:19:46 | BZFlag | that would be StinkyWiki =) |
| 07:20:38 | captain_proton | ahh yes |
| 07:20:41 | captain_proton | StudlyCaps required |
| 07:21:01 | MrApathyCream | What's NeXT? |
| 07:21:01 | BZFlag | that's it! the StudlyCapsWiki ;-) |
| 07:30:08 | BZFlag | captain_proton: here's my thoughts... |
| 07:30:44 | BZFlag | I want everyone using the new throttling code, and I'm not sure there will be universal adoption with the new HUD> |
| 07:30:54 | BZFlag | so I'm having a tough time with that. |
| 07:30:59 | BZFlag | I like it. ;-) |
| 07:31:13 | captain_proton | makes sense |
| 07:31:23 | BZFlag | on the other hand there are a ton of reasons to upgrade, so perhaps |
| 07:31:40 | BZFlag | now is the best time to do the HUD release along with those changes. |
| 07:31:58 | captain_proton | seems like some general things that would make it better are slightly larger (not too big or we get the same problem as the old hud) fonts for scores and a higher-alpha background on the radar |
| 07:32:35 | MrApathyCream | whatever can be done to get peeps to upgrade! I still can't believe how many e1's are out there |
| 07:33:10 | captain_proton | have servers accept old clients, send a "upgrade to e6! NOW!" message, then superkill |
| 07:35:08 | captain_proton | =} |
| 07:35:36 | MrApathyCream | n.e.one complain about slower framerates with new hud? |
| 07:36:17 | MrApathyCream | i haven't heard anything |
| 07:36:27 | captain_proton | no complaints to me |
| 07:36:40 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: I've heard that from someone, but I asked for details and he had none. |
| 07:36:45 | captain_proton | only comments i got from my friends were 'your client is better than mine' |
| 07:36:47 | BZFlag | I think it's just a perception. |
| 07:36:53 | BZFlag | captain_proton: ;-) |
| 07:37:25 | MrApathyCream | if fonts were bigger and alpha was bigger, would prolly be alot more acceptable |
| 07:37:25 | captain_proton | the secret of my decks dominance comes out |
| 07:37:33 | captain_proton | i was using enhanced hud before anybody else ;) |
| 07:38:03 | MrApathyCream | dunno if some will miss dead player list |
| 07:40:13 | MrApathyCream | BTW, who came up with the pack coordinate info into the rgb file for the panel? scary. |
| 07:41:11 | captain_proton | 'dead player list' being the list of people who aren't on the server any more? |
| 07:41:22 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: yeah that scared me a LOT |
| 07:42:00 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: dead: yes |
| 07:42:11 | BZFlag | heh. ask crs, it was before my time. |
| 07:43:17 | captain_proton | ibot, x en de i'll be happy to talk with you once you're sober |
| 07:43:18 | | captain_proton: ich bin glücklich, mit Ihnen zu sprechen, sobald Sie nüchtern sind |
| 07:45:25 | MrApathyCream | stumbles off to bed |
| 07:45:39 | captain_proton | gasps |
| 07:45:44 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: its only 3:50 |
| 07:46:06 | MrApathyCream | yup, early to bed, early to rise..... |
| 07:46:32 | captain_proton | makes dave a dull boy? |
| 07:47:13 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:47:27 | BZFlag | captain_proton: the upper right corner or the radar has a glitch here. |
| 07:47:40 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ? |
| 07:47:41 | captain_proton | explain |
| 07:47:49 | BZFlag | the lines arond the radar. |
| 07:48:02 | BZFlag | 1st the upper right corner has a small gap on my system. |
| 07:48:17 | BZFlag | and the buildings overlap part of the lines all the way around. |
| 07:48:33 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 07:48:40 | captain_proton | lines should be 2 pixels thick |
| 07:48:45 | captain_proton | you say buildings overlap 1 of those? |
| 07:54:05 | BZFlag | yep. |
| 07:54:16 | BZFlag | and they don't close in the upper right. |
| 07:58:01 | BZFlag | odd. GL_LINE_LOOP should always close. hmm... |
| 08:09:13 | iLL_BZFlag | sheesh |
| 08:09:22 | iLL_BZFlag | we should ban people just for being weenies |
| 08:09:30 | iLL_BZFlag | maybe i'll have that policy on my own field |
| 08:09:40 | iLL_BZFlag | I was playing 3 greens on that 3 gm field |
| 08:09:49 | iLL_BZFlag | 28 to - on all ofem |
| 08:09:59 | iLL_BZFlag | tho they all sit on top of buildings and gm up |
| 08:10:03 | iLL_BZFlag | THEN! |
| 08:10:12 | iLL_BZFlag | 2 ofem cheat |
| 08:10:14 | iLL_BZFlag | sheesh |
| 08:10:16 | iLL_BZFlag | fuckers |
| 08:10:27 | iLL_BZFlag | I'm firing at this guy who jumped straight shots |
| 08:10:32 | iLL_BZFlag | right where he's gonna land |
| 08:10:37 | iLL_BZFlag | he arcs down |
| 08:10:46 | iLL_BZFlag | hovers above my fire till it passes then drops |
| 08:10:50 | captain_proton | heh |
| 08:10:56 | iLL_BZFlag | the other I have stealth drive behind him |
| 08:11:00 | iLL_BZFlag | he's standing still |
| 08:11:19 | iLL_BZFlag | I take 5 evenly spaced shots also standing still from 2 tank lengths directly behind him |
| 08:11:21 | iLL_BZFlag | nothing |
| 08:11:35 | iLL_BZFlag | after my 5th shot he reverses drives through me and fires |
| 08:11:37 | iLL_BZFlag | WTF! |
| 08:20:14 | iLLf8d | sheesh |
| 08:20:16 | iLLf8d | screenlockup |
| 08:20:18 | iLLf8d | biatch! |
| 08:20:20 | iLLf8d | hasn't happened in over 6 mo |
| 08:20:22 | iLLf8d | wonder whats up with that |
| 08:20:56 | captain_proton | with mozilla 1.0, i can surf pr0n faster than ever before! |
| 08:21:38 | vogon_jeltz | OMG LOL |
| 08:21:57 | captain_proton | i should write a review |
| 08:22:05 | captain_proton | get it posted to the /. article |
| 08:24:24 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 08:24:44 | iLLf8d | you should tellem that the bangbus is gonna have to go faster now |
| 08:24:52 | iLLf8d | you heard about that one? |
| 08:25:08 | iLLf8d | I was thinking I got a honda hatchback, should get snatchback.com heh |
| 08:25:29 | iLLf8d | problem is my gf wouldn't like me bangin other chicks in the hatchback |
| 08:55:26 | captain_proton | more so than ever before, libpr0n (the mozilla image rendering library daintily refferred to as 'imagelib' on the 1.0 release web site) has come through! |
| 09:03:01 | BZFlag | captain_proton: ok. I decided.... |
| 09:03:40 | captain_proton | shoot |
| 09:04:59 | captain_proton | woooooo |
| 09:05:15 | captain_proton | celebrates |
| 09:05:31 | BZFlag | heh. |
| 09:05:45 | BZFlag | well, let's get some testing in and ship. ;-) |
| 09:06:47 | BZFlag | I gotta sleep. |
| 09:06:48 | BZFlag | night |
| 09:26:00 | akira_ | moin |
| 11:17:21 | iLLf8d | night all |
| 11:25:46 | akira_ | some here to play ? |
| 12:24:19 | Chestal | hi |
| 12:25:11 | akira_ | moinsen |
| 12:30:13 | Chestal | hmm |
| 12:30:18 | akira_ | wos ? |
| 12:30:25 | Chestal | I think I must split my CVS tree |
| 12:40:25 | ^john | oh chestal is an op now |
| 12:40:37 | akira_ | he always is |
| 12:40:40 | ^john | oh |
| 12:40:49 | ^john | jh here |
| 12:40:59 | akira_ | dont think so |
| 12:41:09 | ^john | im jh |
| 12:41:16 | akira_ | aaaah |
| 12:41:20 | akira_ | complex thinking |
| 12:41:21 | akira_ | :) |
| 12:41:24 | ^john | eheheh |
| 12:41:25 | akira_ | hello jh |
| 12:41:29 | ^john | hello |
| 12:41:37 | akira_ | wann fight ? |
| 12:41:43 | akira_ | wanne fight ? |
| 12:41:49 | ^jh | where? |
| 12:41:52 | akira_ | now |
| 12:41:56 | akira_ | just for fun |
| 12:42:02 | akira_ | coz no other is available |
| 12:42:06 | ^jh | where? |
| 12:42:11 | akira_ | ducati normal ? |
| 12:42:14 | ^jh | ok |
| 12:42:20 | ^jh | meet u there |
| 12:42:22 | akira_ | Chestal: is ducati running on 56xx ? |
| 12:42:55 | akira_ | ok, i am there |
| 12:42:57 | akira_ | 5155 |
| 13:55:05 | akira_ | chestal??? |
| 13:55:06 | akira_ | Chestal: |
| 13:55:08 | akira_ | huhuhu |
| 13:59:23 | Chestal | jo? |
| 14:01:26 | akira_ | war eben ein cheater auf ducati |
| 14:01:34 | akira_ | wie waren die commandos ? |
| 14:05:45 | Chestal | akira: /passwd xxxx, /kick player, /playerlist, /ban IP oder IP_pattern |
| 14:05:54 | akira_ | ah |
| 14:05:56 | akira_ | ok |
| 14:06:01 | Chestal | z.B. /ban 5.6.7.* 15 bannt 5.6.7.irgednwas fuer 15 Minuten |
| 14:06:09 | Chestal | mit /banlist einsehbar, mit /unban loeschbar |
| 14:06:12 | akira_ | un bei namen die 2 teilig sind ? |
| 14:06:21 | Chestal | wenn jemand spaces verwendet, einfach eingeben |
| 14:06:31 | Chestal | wir sollten wohl mal Leerzeichen am Ende des Namens und so verbieten |
| 14:19:53 | akira_ | ok |
| 14:31:45 | akira_ | cu Chestal |
| 14:32:27 | akira_ | bis sonntag abend wahrscheinlich |
| 15:03:11 | vogon_jeltz | is away: I suck at the away messages. |
| 15:47:13 | Sadista | come and play capture at ducati ! |
| 15:47:30 | Sadista | hello ! |
| 15:47:37 | Sadista | DUCATI |
| 15:48:14 | Chestal | I'm busy :-) |
| 16:40:42 | freelancer | hi all any matches today |
| 17:25:51 | Chestal | hi pnm |
| 17:26:25 | pnm | hiya |
| 17:27:31 | Chestal | compsoc available on Sunday? I don't know if 3 Moles will be there, though |
| 17:27:44 | ritchie_ | mebbe |
| 18:16:51 | Multitronic | Hello |
| 18:36:53 | [TeA|TrEE] | heLLo ?? |
| 18:38:07 | dinah | hello |
| 18:44:29 | Chestal | hi Multitronic. What's with Gerbil and the Rats? |
| 18:44:36 | Chestal | oh, he's gone |
| 19:12:47 | Chestal | proton: hya |
| 19:12:55 | captain_proton | hey |
| 19:12:58 | Chestal | proton: I see Tim checked in the HUD patch? I tried it |
| 19:13:03 | Chestal | it kills my fps, though |
| 19:13:07 | captain_proton | yeah - i got a quick fix i need to make |
| 19:13:41 | Chestal | besides the fps issue: the border or the message and radar area doesn't look too good |
| 19:13:56 | captain_proton | thats what i need to fix |
| 19:14:00 | Chestal | and I have Text which goes beyond the uppder border of the message area, 2 pixels or so |
| 19:15:18 | captain_proton | can you screenshot it for me? |
| 19:15:29 | Chestal | uh, maybe. I can try |
| 19:15:40 | Chestal | did I tell about the fps? :-) |
| 19:17:02 | captain_proton | no |
| 19:18:43 | Chestal | I woudl eestimate that I get about 50-60% of the normal fps here |
| 19:19:43 | captain_proton | thats bizzare |
| 19:19:51 | Chestal | no |
| 19:19:57 | Chestal | that is to be expected, although maybe not so much |
| 19:20:02 | Chestal | software rendering |
| 19:20:34 | captain_proton | well, its not to be expected, because its rendering the same area (it was just glScissor'ed out before) |
| 19:20:46 | Chestal | http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/bzflag/bzhud.gif |
| 19:21:04 | Chestal | yes, but what's slow with software rendering is drawing of pxiels |
| 19:21:07 | Chestal | don't ask me why |
| 19:21:18 | Chestal | the geometry calculations are no big problem |
| 19:21:24 | Chestal | it gets slow if it has to draw more gl pixels |
| 19:21:35 | captain_proton | fill rate issues |
| 19:21:51 | Chestal | that's why it speeds up significantly with quality=low, because this draws sky+floor with a simple fill primitive |
| 19:24:19 | Chestal | actually, it's not as bad as I expected ;-) |
| 19:24:35 | Chestal | I don't know if I would like it if I had high fps |
| 19:24:42 | Chestal | it's just different |
| 19:24:59 | Chestal | and the new visible area doesn't really give me anything (blending is too slow here) |
| 19:46:34 | ritchie_ | is valoche about? |
| 19:47:09 | dinah | is away: falling down ;-( |
| 19:55:26 | captain_proton | 1 down, 1 to go |
| 19:55:36 | dinah | is back (gone 00:08:27) |
| 19:56:14 | dinah | captain_proton: just what does that mean? hmmm ;) |
| 19:56:30 | captain_proton | fixing problems in the new HUD |
| 19:57:03 | dinah | ohhh goodie! cause meases always seemed to bleed off my screen... |
| 19:57:35 | captain_proton | meases? |
| 19:57:45 | dinah | means words luv |
| 20:11:39 | captain_proton | Chestal: fixed the borders - i'll checkin this stuff in a few minutes |
| 20:21:22 | captain_proton | 0 Father Nanna, that city into ruins was made ...Its people, not potsherds, filled its sides; Its walls were breached; the people groan. In its lofty gates, where they were wont to promenade, dead bodies were lying about; in its boulevards, where the feasts were celebrated, scattered they lay. In all its streets, where they were wont to promenade, dead bodies were lying about; In its places, where the festivities of the land took p |
| 20:21:28 | captain_proton | people lay in heaps ... Ur -its weak and its strong perished through hunger; Mothers and fathers who did not leave their houses were overcome by fire; The young, lying on their mothers' laps, like fish were carried off by the waters; In the city the wife was abandoned, the son was abandoned, the possessions were scattered about...0 Nanna, Ur has been destroyed, its people have been dispersed. |
| 20:21:28 | captain_proton | ^^ scary |
| 20:27:40 | T-34 | hello |
| 20:28:18 | T-34 | Dinah: Hello |
| 20:28:24 | T-34 | Again |
| 20:28:31 | dinah | help oh mighty linux gurus, for i am dinah and i know naught!?! |
| 20:29:08 | dinah | just tell me what to do luv? |
| 20:29:37 | T-34 | Did you install Xp over Linux? |
| 20:29:54 | dinah | umm in this partition thingy |
| 20:29:57 | T-34 | It means you delete the Linux? |
| 20:30:27 | dinah | i choped 50gigs off my harddrive and made it xp |
| 20:30:46 | dinah | the other 100 is still linux |
| 20:30:53 | T-34 | GODDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 20:30:58 | dinah | what? |
| 20:31:06 | T-34 | What a machinery you have? |
| 20:31:11 | T-34 | nOh God |
| 20:31:20 | T-34 | 150 G ? |
| 20:31:20 | dinah | somthing called bootmagic? |
| 20:31:32 | T-34 | 150Gb??? |
| 20:31:37 | captain_proton | Chestal: committed |
| 20:31:38 | dinah | i need it for my work, graphic design you know |
| 20:31:43 | T-34 | Ah, I'm dreaming |
| 20:31:52 | T-34 | Ah, ok |
| 20:31:59 | T-34 | Let's ask |
| 20:32:11 | T-34 | Yo tankers, Dinah needs help |
| 20:32:21 | dinah | high quaility TIFF takes up a lot of space... |
| 20:32:46 | T-34 | Captain: Dinah said that with Linux she couldn't play Bz in high resolution |
| 20:32:57 | T-34 | But with Xp she can! |
| 20:33:05 | captain_proton | bad linux drivers? |
| 20:33:12 | dinah | no i said in "high quality" |
| 20:33:13 | T-34 | I thought |
| 20:33:26 | T-34 | Same Dinah |
| 20:33:33 | dinah | ho sorry |
| 20:33:40 | T-34 | Captain: where to grab a good driver for Linux? |
| 20:33:48 | T-34 | www.opengl.org? |
| 20:33:50 | captain_proton | depends on your card |
| 20:33:55 | captain_proton | dri.sourceforge.net has all the latest DRI stuff |
| 20:34:14 | Chestal | proton: I really feel these changes should be optional. And I think we figured out that at least coloured (and maybe lined) shots should be optional as well |
| 20:34:18 | T-34 | Dinah tell me again what video do you have? |
| 20:34:31 | dinah | Ati Radeon VE |
| 20:34:33 | captain_proton | Chestal: ask him ^ |
| 20:34:40 | Chestal | hi BZFlag |
| 20:34:53 | T-34 | Dinah wait a sec. |
| 20:34:54 | BZFlag | heya. |
| 20:35:09 | captain_proton | fastest way to get rikers attention: commit to the 1.7 branch ;) |
| 20:36:07 | Chestal | BZFlag: two issues: radar (once more :-) and the new HUD |
| 20:36:39 | Chestal | with radar I have changes which do not regard to the shot issues, I think I should really commit those |
| 20:37:02 | Chestal | there is still some controversy about coloured / lined radar shots |
| 20:37:20 | Chestal | several people like the one way better, other people disagree |
| 20:37:51 | Chestal | and the new HUD isn't bad (although it doesn't give me anything), but it hurts my FPS severely |
| 20:38:25 | Chestal | so I vote for at least 2 (maybe 3 options): coloured shots yes/no, new HUD yes/no and maybe lined shots yes/no. I could live with the short lines, though |
| 20:38:45 | Chestal | proton: you liked the long lines better? |
| 20:38:47 | T-34 | Dinah? |
| 20:38:54 | captain_proton | Chestal: yeah - easier to see at my resolution |
| 20:38:54 | dinah | T-34? |
| 20:39:26 | T-34 | I couldn't do anything important but check here: http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html |
| 20:39:45 | T-34 | download a new driver and install |
| 20:40:02 | Chestal | proton: did you at any time test my other radar changes? the way tanks are drawn etc.? |
| 20:40:18 | Chestal | mainly affects tanks and flags |
| 20:40:45 | captain_proton | Chestal: yeah - i like it |
| 20:41:13 | Chestal | ok, I guess I will submit that part of it then. Have to merge with the new radar |
| 20:43:32 | almogaver | hi |
| 20:44:05 | Chestal | what is RadarRenderer::transFactor = 20.0f anyway? |
| 20:44:08 | Chestal | not used anywhere |
| 20:44:15 | captain_proton | i have no clue |
| 20:44:29 | Chestal | then begone with it |
| 20:44:38 | Chestal | sounds liek soem tranparency stuff, who knows |
| 20:44:48 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:44:54 | captain_proton | i didn't introduce it |
| 20:46:08 | Chestal | yes, I know, it struck me some weeks before, oh well |
| 20:46:28 | captain_proton | Chestal: everything happy with borders now? |
| 20:47:06 | Chestal | looked ok when I did a quick test |
| 20:47:11 | captain_proton | coo |
| 20:47:14 | captain_proton | is off to swim |
| 20:47:25 | Chestal | I'm not quite sure if I find the borders in team colour beautiful, however |
| 20:59:12 | BZFlag | Chestal: what's the fps impact? |
| 21:01:01 | Chestal | I have no hard numbers |
| 21:01:09 | Chestal | but on an open field I get aboue 20-30fps now |
| 21:01:13 | Chestal | old version: 40-50fps |
| 21:01:44 | Chestal | hmm, I just noticed, the addiotanl vertical space seems to be distributed evenly to the top and bottom |
| 21:02:15 | Chestal | that means that parts which were visible before are now p=behind the radar / message area |
| 21:02:39 | Chestal | the whole 3D view has moved down a little |
| 21:03:46 | BZFlag | captain_proton: now I have a 1 pixel gap between the radar and the border on the upper and right sides. |
| 21:04:33 | BZFlag | Chestal: yes that's true. turn on blending and you get it back. ;-) |
| 21:04:48 | Chestal | BZFlag: blending is too slow here of course |
| 21:05:01 | BZFlag | I run blending when in software mode. |
| 21:05:11 | BZFlag | well, and hardware mode too. ;-) |
| 21:05:57 | Chestal | well, for now I would commit the radar changes that everyone agrees on, excluding any coliured / lined shots issues. Ok? |
| 21:08:00 | BZFlag | what's in the "everyone agrees on" changes? |
| 21:08:15 | Chestal | tanks and flags are drawn differently |
| 21:08:20 | Chestal | more liek it used to be |
| 21:08:50 | Chestal | both are drawn with their real sizes, but using minimum pixel sizes |
| 21:09:07 | Chestal | also, flags on tanks are drawn slightly bigger. It's very hard to see team flags on tanks now |
| 21:09:45 | Chestal | and the diamon dheight indicator is merged with the tank square for tanks on floor |
| 21:10:04 | Chestal | ah, and shots are colour faded like buildings and flags |
| 21:11:53 | BZFlag | Chestal: put up a patch (or set of patches) and I'll try em out. |
| 21:11:59 | BZFlag | they sounds like good things. |
| 21:13:18 | Chestal | doesn't the scoreboard font get bigger with higer resolutions? |
| 21:13:35 | Chestal | it's very tiny now. Ok for me at 800x600, but when I switch to 1280x1024 it's unreadable |
| 21:14:27 | BZFlag | it should get bigger, but it does not yet. |
| 21:14:41 | BZFlag | also the msg area should get smaller at low res but does not. |
| 21:15:04 | BZFlag | the menus should probably be allowed to exist over the control panel area now. |
| 21:20:10 | Chestal | the old font for the scoreboard was nice IMHO |
| 21:20:16 | Chestal | hmm, dead player list is gone? |
| 21:25:33 | Chestal | ok, radar patch added already existing patch |
| 21:59:52 | jolly | hello |
| 22:05:32 | T-34 | Hello Jolly |
| 22:05:38 | T-34 | Long time... |
| 22:09:49 | jolly | ahh yes |
| 22:33:26 | T-34 | bye and good night! |
| 22:55:56 | taD_ | hmm |
| 23:41:34 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: how's the radar in your world? |
| 23:41:41 | taD_ | :) |
