| 00:00:04 | akira_ | aaah |
| 00:00:12 | akira_ | yeah |
| 00:00:12 | akira_ | wait |
| 00:00:45 | akira_ | i informed my friend ... i almost forgot it |
| 00:02:19 | Lumberjack | hi @all |
| 00:02:53 | akira_ | there he is |
| 00:02:53 | akira_ | jpablo2: please dcc it to Lumberjack |
| 00:03:02 | jpablo2 | ok. |
| 00:03:14 | akira_ | thx a lot |
| 00:06:25 | akira_ | jpablo2: was it you with the wish for a bigger screen font ? |
| 00:07:09 | jpablo2 | nope, i wanted lines on the radar backs. |
| 00:07:44 | akira_ | you want what ? |
| 00:07:52 | akira_ | lines instead of dots ? |
| 00:08:25 | jpablo2 | yeah, on the radar |
| 00:09:15 | akira_ | ok |
| 00:10:36 | akira_ | moin loop |
| 00:10:53 | OoOoO | howdy akira |
| 00:10:54 | jpablo2 | they fruti. |
| 00:11:05 | frootie | greetings |
| 00:11:10 | jpablo2 | want to eat some frootloops. |
| 00:11:15 | OoOoO | :) |
| 00:11:43 | akira_ | some need for colored blended radar ? :)) |
| 00:11:51 | frootie | these froot loops don't go good with milk |
| 00:11:58 | frootie | they are bad for your health |
| 00:12:49 | OoOoO | jpablo, have 2 loops, maybe a third in a little while |
| 00:13:50 | jpablo2 | humm, we are two here too. |
| 00:13:56 | jpablo2 | someone must arrive soon. |
| 00:14:15 | jpablo2 | but he didn't come yesterday, maybe he doesn't come up today :-(. |
| 00:14:38 | OoOoO | yeah, well, we will see, not sure on our third tonight either. |
| 00:15:07 | akira_ | some need for colored blended radar ? :)) |
| 00:17:48 | akira_ | ok cu all |
| 00:17:56 | frootie | cu |
| 00:18:47 | jpablo2 | bah no one game on the debian list is good. |
| 00:18:50 | jpablo2 | just bzflag :-P |
| 00:18:57 | jpablo2 | and the gnome-games :-P |
| 00:21:37 | frootie | ciao |
| 00:21:39 | arathorn | hi all |
| 00:21:50 | OoOoO | hi arathorn |
| 00:22:09 | arathorn | heya frot lop |
| 01:23:18 | jacques | dangit |
| 01:23:29 | jacques | i am kicking ass but I never get points for my kills |
| 01:23:30 | taD_gone | bah humbug |
| 01:23:40 | jacques | i only get negative when I die |
| 01:23:49 | taD_gone | hehe |
| 01:23:55 | jacques | when I make a kill it says killed by <unknown. |
| 01:24:06 | taD_gone | hmm? |
| 01:24:09 | taD_gone | wierd |
| 01:24:15 | taD_gone | ask chestal |
| 01:24:23 | taD_gone | I am gone |
| 01:24:23 | taD_gone | <<<<<< see? |
| 01:38:06 | jacques | i also cant pickup flags |
| 01:45:46 | jacques | i think it has something to do with blocked udp |
| 02:36:10 | jzaun | hey |
| 02:36:15 | jzaun | your online again :-) |
| 02:36:16 | iLLf8d | hey |
| 02:36:22 | iLLf8d | yeah just about to flush my machine heh |
| 02:36:23 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 02:36:37 | jzaun | Sounds like alot of fun |
| 02:36:40 | iLLf8d | trying to make sure I know what i'm doing before I flush heh |
| 02:36:56 | jzaun | That takes the fun out of it though.... |
| 02:37:17 | jzaun | best just flush it... not exiting if its not backed up first :-D |
| 02:38:00 | jzaun | What distro you gonna put on it? |
| 02:39:38 | iLLf8d | gentoo |
| 02:39:49 | iLLf8d | was writing down sound resource settings heh |
| 02:40:09 | jzaun | Whats the bennifit to gentoo? |
| 02:41:41 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 02:41:49 | iLLf8d | its got a ports system |
| 02:41:57 | iLLf8d | and it doesn't seem to micromanage the dist |
| 02:42:09 | iLLf8d | tho these opinions are based on hearsay |
| 02:42:18 | iLLf8d | will giveya my own in a couple weeks =) |
| 02:42:30 | jzaun | Cool... What you useing now? |
| 02:42:41 | iLLf8d | there are other benefits |
| 02:42:51 | iLLf8d | those are the ones i'm interested in |
| 02:42:55 | iLLf8d | I run freebsd and debian |
| 02:43:21 | jzaun | Been running Mandrake here for about 4 years |
| 02:43:50 | iLLf8d | cool |
| 02:43:55 | iLLf8d | you like it? |
| 02:44:14 | jzaun | Very much so |
| 02:44:40 | jzaun | simple to install, secure from the start, user friendly, and very configureable |
| 02:45:43 | jzaun | Did you get a change to look t the building I had up on jzaun.static.telerama.com? |
| 02:50:00 | iLLf8d | uhm |
| 02:50:03 | iLLf8d | when? |
| 02:50:12 | iLLf8d | I saw the ctf that you showed me have you made changes? |
| 02:50:21 | iLLf8d | that was yesterday tho |
| 02:50:49 | jzaun | no... this is just a single tower I made... what I would like to be able to position on a map at a given x/y location |
| 02:59:58 | Widget | hihihi |
| 03:00:05 | Widget | Evil Mandrake. |
| 03:00:18 | Widget | OS X is easy to install, secure from the start, user friendly, and very configurable. |
| 03:00:56 | jpablo2 | Mac OS X SUCKS ! |
| 03:04:58 | eddienull | heh |
| 03:08:05 | jzaun | Widget: Mandrake is all that too |
| 03:08:13 | jzaun | Widget: been running it for 4 years |
| 03:08:14 | Widget | jpablo2: You still here? |
| 03:08:23 | Widget | jpablo2: Does X have alpha translucency? |
| 03:09:08 | jpablo2 | YES ! |
| 03:09:31 | jpablo2 | if you use XRENDER you can use a alpha chanel. |
| 03:09:44 | taD_gone | OH NO! ITS Widget!! |
| 03:09:49 | taD_gone | ah! |
| 03:10:14 | Widget | jpablo2: But no window manager supports it yet. |
| 03:10:20 | Widget | jpablo2: Except a hacked version of twm. |
| 03:10:25 | taD_gone | is watching a dvd on his G4 |
| 03:10:28 | Widget | jpablo2: Can you make a translucent terminal? No! |
| 03:10:54 | jpablo2 | yeah. |
| 03:10:58 | jpablo2 | KDE3 supports it. |
| 03:12:58 | eddienull | widget, if translucent windows is the best argument you have for OS X, you had better sit down before you get hurt ;) |
| 03:13:10 | Widget | jpablo2: It doesn't. |
| 03:13:21 | jpablo2 | Widget: IT DOES ! |
| 03:14:01 | jacques | how do I make the radar like e4 ? |
| 03:14:14 | jacques | translucent radar is hard to rad |
| 03:14:17 | jacques | rea |
| 03:14:19 | jacques | d |
| 03:14:22 | Widget | jpablo2: I have KDE 3 running on a Debian machine here. |
| 03:14:55 | jpablo2 | you have the render extencion loaded in X ? |
| 03:15:13 | jpablo2 | Widget: you an have transparents menus, i dunno about the terminal. |
| 03:15:21 | Widget | That isn't real translucency. |
| 03:15:23 | Widget | That grabs a pixmap. |
| 03:15:31 | Widget | Go look at the forums in kde-look.org |
| 03:15:54 | jpablo2 | humm. |
| 03:16:06 | jpablo2 | i don't think so. |
| 03:16:28 | jacques | is there a e6 faq? |
| 03:16:35 | jacques | so much has changed |
| 03:17:51 | jpablo2 | Widget: i'm not sure if kde3 is doing it, but you can do that with xrender. |
| 03:18:10 | Widget | jpablo2: But no window managers support it. |
| 03:18:14 | Widget | jpablo2: So in short, you can't. |
| 03:18:26 | Widget | jpablo2: And I'm 100% sure the menus are a pixmap. |
| 03:18:36 | Widget | jpablo2: I can prove it to. Go open a menu over a movie. |
| 03:19:08 | jpablo2 | well. |
| 03:19:57 | jpablo2 | maybe if you disable Xvideo extension it will work. |
| 03:20:02 | jpablo2 | it will slower but will work. |
| 03:20:09 | Widget | Or open a menu and open it again very fast. |
| 03:20:22 | Widget | It will capture the previous menu and make it nearly opaque. |
| 03:22:41 | jpablo2 | gynn,+ |
| 03:22:55 | jpablo2 | however i won't use a OS just cause it can do transparency. |
| 03:23:09 | jpablo2 | as a matter of fact I DON'T REALLY care about it. |
| 03:24:10 | eddienull | exactly :) |
| 03:24:27 | taD_gone | I like quartz |
| 03:24:39 | eddienull | i like QE better =) |
| 03:24:49 | jpablo2 | Widget: is there anything good on MacOS X ? |
| 03:24:55 | taD_gone | bzflag |
| 03:25:00 | taD_gone | ha |
| 03:25:01 | eddienull | =) |
| 03:25:06 | Widget | Precisely. |
| 03:25:09 | taD_gone | um |
| 03:25:30 | taD_gone | the PPC G4 system..... |
| 03:25:49 | taD_gone | ok |
| 03:25:50 | Widget | Redde Caesari quae sunt Caesaris. |
| 03:25:51 | taD_gone | bed time |
| 03:26:25 | jpablo2 | lala mac os x sucks. |
| 03:26:27 | jpablo2 | macs rules. |
| 03:26:44 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | now thats a very hard thing to think out..... |
| 03:26:58 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | mac os x IS a mac |
| 03:26:59 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | :) |
| 03:27:00 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | ok |
| 03:27:04 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | its bed time.... |
| 03:27:06 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | cya |
| 03:27:10 | jpablo2 | NAH. |
| 03:27:16 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | is logging this/// |
| 03:27:17 | eddienull | likes the hardware more then the OS :) |
| 03:27:20 | jpablo2 | i like the computers, but not the OS. |
| 03:27:21 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | hmm |
| 03:27:29 | tad_ZZZZZZZzzzzz | is gone |
| 03:27:38 | eddienull | runs linuxppc on his PBG4 |
| 03:27:43 | Widget | jpablo2: Besides translucent windows... the critics all agree! Mac OS X is faaaaaaaar more intuitive and user friendly than Linux. |
| 03:28:00 | jpablo2 | so ? |
| 03:28:02 | jpablo2 | i'm not a kid |
| 03:28:10 | jpablo2 | i know how to use computers. |
| 03:28:47 | Widget | OK. So perhaps it's not right for you. But you are a minority of computer users. |
| 03:28:53 | eddienull | widget, can you goto your network prefs and configure an infinite number of IP gateways on a single interface? |
| 03:29:23 | Widget | eddienull: How necessary is that for the vast majority of computer users? |
| 03:29:42 | jpablo2 | so, sacrifice the power of the easiness, ugly. |
| 03:29:47 | eddienull | and how necessary is translucent menus? |
| 03:29:50 | jpablo2 | s/of/for |
| 03:30:37 | Widget | jpablo2: The vast majority of users would favour such a balance. |
| 03:30:46 | Widget | eddienull: They're not. |
| 03:31:00 | jpablo2 | you can have both. |
| 03:32:03 | Widget | jpablo2: I don't think I've met very many people who have liked KDE or Gnome, or BB, or any Window Manager/Desktop Environment on Linux better than OS X. |
| 03:32:34 | jpablo2 | you are talking about what peoples like. |
| 03:32:39 | jpablo2 | not what's easier to use. |
| 03:33:02 | jpablo2 | people like transparent menus, but that's does not make it easier to use. |
| 03:33:10 | Widget | And most people I know have found OS X to be far easier to use. |
| 03:34:10 | jpablo2 | humm, i don't like thoses 'stadistics'. |
| 03:34:15 | eddienull | jpablo likes unix with an X window manager, OS X is unix with an Aqua window manager, what's the difference? |
| 03:34:15 | jpablo2 | i can say the same about linux, so ? |
| 03:34:31 | Widget | eddienull: Hardly a window manager. |
| 03:34:50 | jpablo2 | in this rooms there are 5 machines turned on and all are runing linux, so it's makes linux the predominant OS ? |
| 03:35:41 | eddienull | widget, how is it now a window manager? go kill your loginwindow.app process and tell me how much like like OS X then |
| 03:35:42 | Widget | jpablo2: Certainly not. But, OS X is easy to use for quite a few reasons.... |
| 03:35:52 | jpablo2 | the true is mac os x sucks, linux will konquer the world someday and you will ask for forgiveness. |
| 03:36:02 | eddienull | heh |
| 03:36:03 | Widget | eddienull: It doesn't run on X. A Window Manager has traditionally run on X. |
| 03:36:17 | Widget | jpablo2: One is, one rarely has to use the command line. |
| 03:36:26 | Widget | jpablo2: I would go so far as to say 'never'. |
| 03:36:31 | eddienull | widget, you just have a warped perspective of what a window manager is |
| 03:36:45 | jpablo2 | Widget: you don't have to use the command line on linux neither. |
| 03:36:54 | jpablo2 | Widget: just install lindows and you will see. |
| 03:37:10 | jpablo2 | s/lindows/licorys. |
| 03:37:13 | Widget | jpablo2: Ick. Lindows. GPL violators. |
| 03:37:26 | jpablo2 | licorys i mean. |
| 03:37:35 | jpablo2 | it's a very userfriendly distribution. |
| 03:37:41 | Widget | jpablo2: I have a friend that runs Lycoris. |
| 03:37:54 | Widget | jpablo2: Let me ask him about it. |
| 03:38:43 | jpablo2 | do whatever you want. |
| 03:38:47 | jpablo2 | i will still use linux. |
| 03:38:52 | jpablo2 | and still will say that linux sucks. |
| 03:38:56 | jpablo2 | eeeeeeeek. |
| 03:39:01 | jpablo2 | s/linux/mac os x |
| 03:39:06 | patlabor221 | liunx ant gonna take over hjack untill it can get an installer that acutay installs what you need, like video drivers that you don't have to build |
| 03:39:37 | patlabor221 | frudian slip? :) |
| 03:39:54 | jpablo2 | patlabor221: use licorys. |
| 03:40:11 | Widget | jpablo2: You must compile NVidia drivers on Lycoris as well. |
| 03:40:12 | patlabor221 | what the hell is that? |
| 03:40:18 | jpablo2 | humm. |
| 03:40:26 | patlabor221 | I want to click them and have them install and work |
| 03:40:35 | jpablo2 | Widget: are you sure ? |
| 03:40:44 | jpablo2 | Widget: they include a lot of propietary software. |
| 03:40:44 | Widget | jpablo2: Positive. I just asked. |
| 03:40:51 | patlabor221 | moslty I'm just wondering why redhat didn't put them in the install |
| 03:40:59 | Widget | jpablo2: My friend had to compile them himself. If there was another way to do it.... |
| 03:41:06 | Widget | jpablo2: It obviously wasn't documented well enough. =P |
| 03:41:20 | jpablo2 | well licorys donsn't install gcc. |
| 03:41:26 | jpablo2 | so i wonder how your friend did it. |
| 03:41:35 | Widget | jpablo2: In any case, if the only easy to use distribution includes a lot of proprietary software. this seems to be a tradeoff, yes? |
| 03:41:50 | eddienull | widget, is that your next point? nvidia? what if you have an ATI card (which 90% of Macs do) |
| 03:41:53 | patlabor221 | Widg: does OSX have an update typoe thing that will get you the latest compomenets automaticly? |
| 03:42:00 | jpablo2 | Widget: if you want a easy so use installation pay someone to configure it. |
| 03:42:04 | eddienull | pat, it does. |
| 03:42:09 | patlabor221 | good |
| 03:42:11 | Widget | patlabor221: Yes. |
| 03:42:38 | patlabor221 | I knew they were going that way, I'm glad they did. My Mac is to wussy to un osx :( |
| 03:42:48 | Widget | eddienull: I was saying that even in Lycoris, one sometimes has to use the command line. |
| 03:42:57 | jpablo2 | Widget: no you don't. |
| 03:43:01 | jpablo2 | depends on what you want to do. |
| 03:43:09 | Widget | jpablo2: Without paying someone. |
| 03:43:15 | jpablo2 | you can do all the stuff a normal user do without using the command line. |
| 03:43:18 | Widget | jpablo2: Many people have nvidia cards. |
| 03:43:22 | jpablo2 | so ? |
| 03:43:29 | jpablo2 | the driver included in X just work. |
| 03:43:38 | jpablo2 | it's not like it will not work. |
| 03:43:39 | Widget | jpablo2: Not well. |
| 03:43:44 | jpablo2 | it's works. |
| 03:43:56 | Widget | jpablo2: But it shouldn't just "work". |
| 03:43:57 | jpablo2 | i used it for a long time. |
| 03:44:10 | Widget | jpablo2: It should work well enough to satisfy the people who have used Windows for a long time. |
| 03:44:17 | eddienull | just to make things clear, I am an OS x fan. love macs, always will. use OS X all-day every-day, using it now...i'm just waiting for widget to make one good argument on why the mac is better, so far your just pointing out your personal opnion, not what's "real" |
| 03:44:36 | Widget | eddienull: I never said this was anything other than my opinion. |
| 03:44:49 | jpablo2 | Widget: as i say i don't care so stop arguing. |
| 03:45:03 | Widget | jpablo2: You never said you didn't care before. |
| 03:45:05 | jpablo2 | linux r0cks, and that's all. |
| 03:45:11 | patlabor221 | Jpablo: the default nvidia drivers that come with redhat ain't got no openGL support |
| 03:45:28 | jpablo2 | patlabor221: well then don't buy hardware not supported. |
| 03:45:38 | jpablo2 | you aren't gonna buy a mac to run windows. |
| 03:45:43 | jpablo2 | cause that hardware is not supported. |
| 03:45:57 | patlabor221 | that;s my thing linux can't keep up with hardware |
| 03:46:02 | eddienull | widget, okay fine, then let's just say it's a personal computer and a personal choice. instead of arguing with folks because they have a different opnion then you, mabye you should trying using your super-easy OS X machine to be productive? |
| 03:46:13 | patlabor221 | I'm not gonna go get some shity trident card just cus "it's supported" |
| 03:46:23 | jpablo2 | a normal user is never _ever_ gonna instal a OS. |
| 03:46:32 | jpablo2 | call it linux, mac os, or windows. |
| 03:46:46 | jpablo2 | the user just uses what comes with his computer. |
| 03:46:57 | patlabor221 | a fair number upgrade to newer versiuons |
| 03:47:16 | jpablo2 | i don't think so. |
| 03:47:20 | jpablo2 | not a normal user. |
| 03:47:28 | patlabor221 | work tech suport for a while |
| 03:47:41 | patlabor221 | bout hald my customers are upgrade cases |
| 03:47:45 | patlabor221 | half |
| 03:47:51 | eddienull | pat, heh, I used to to tech support, I feel your pain =) |
| 03:48:00 | jpablo2 | will stop talking now. |
| 03:48:11 | patlabor221 | I'm glad I finaly moved to dev :) |
| 03:48:31 | jpablo2 | dev rules :-P |
| 03:48:36 | patlabor221 | now I get to say "oh no, that's not a bug, it's feature" |
| 03:48:38 | jpablo2 | i have always been in dev. |
| 03:48:45 | jpablo2 | started talking again :-P. |
| 03:48:53 | eddienull | doh! heh |
| 03:49:41 | patlabor221 | well I didn't have a CS degree so I had to start somewhere |
| 03:50:11 | patlabor221 | and I still don't have a CS degree :P |
| 03:50:15 | eddienull | i'm done talking as well, backing to work on my super easy-to-use, eye-candy everywhere just to chew my CPU apart OS X. :) |
| 03:50:29 | patlabor221 | don't forget ram hog |
| 03:50:43 | eddienull | oh, yea, that too! :) |
| 03:52:47 | eddienull | ...and if you were thinking about saying 'lack of software', I just released the new version of bzflag for OS X yesterday, so kiss my ass! 8-) |
| 03:54:08 | patlabor221 | too nad neverwinter nights got pushed back for the mac till fall tho. |
| 03:54:47 | eddienull | yea, I hear the same thing is happening for WarCraft III, which sucks, but oh well, I got translucent menu's. wahooo! |
| 03:58:28 | iLL_Afk | cya all reinstalling this machine seeya in a couple hours or more heh |
| 06:22:38 | goofey | is away: Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. |
| 09:43:33 | akira_ | hello |
| 09:49:25 | Chestal | hi |
| 09:49:43 | akira_ | ha |
| 09:49:50 | akira_ | hab den patch fertig :) |
| 09:50:11 | akira_ | sag mal |
| 09:50:38 | akira_ | wuerdes dir reichen, wenn du fuer diee "alte" controlpanel version den hintergrund einfach ausgeblendet bekommen wuerdest ? |
| 09:51:26 | Chestal | nein, wahrscheinlich nicht |
| 09:51:35 | Chestal | ich moechte wirklich eine komplette Umschaltung |
| 09:52:13 | akira_ | aber, der alte war doch auch "nur" unten halt komplett schwarz |
| 09:52:33 | Chestal | naja |
| 09:52:43 | Chestal | das neue hat in vertikaler Richtung ein groesseres BLickfeld |
| 09:52:55 | Chestal | und das ist zentriert, d.h. dadurch nach unten verschoben |
| 09:53:12 | akira_ | was vielleicht viel cooler waere |
| 09:53:14 | Chestal | dann ist dieses Zielquadrat in der Mitte auch groesser und nachunten gerutscht |
| 09:53:38 | akira_ | also du findest die komplette ui scheisse ja ? |
| 09:54:13 | Chestal | hier fuer mich an der Uni ja |
| 09:54:20 | Chestal | die Fraemrate ist auch viel niedriger |
| 09:54:44 | Chestal | vorbis-tools |
| 09:54:45 | Chestal | oops |
| 09:55:00 | akira_ | wollt ich auch grade sagen |
| 09:55:48 | Chestal | ich werd mir bei Gelegenheit mal deinen patch anschauen, hatte bisher keine Zeit/Lust dazu |
| 09:55:58 | Chestal | ich hab hier ja meinen e5-CLient, mit dem ich die ganze Zeit spiele |
| 09:56:05 | akira_ | ich hab den jetzt unter linux neu geschrieben |
| 09:56:11 | akira_ | jetzt ist er kleiner und besser |
| 09:56:50 | Chestal | ich glaub fuer die Schussgroesse am Radar waeren evtl. 3 Settigns gut: |
| 09:56:56 | Chestal | Pixel, kurz , lang |
| 09:57:02 | akira_ | ich hab grade tierische probleme um auf den sf.net von bzflag zu kommen |
| 09:57:21 | akira_ | Chestal: das reicht auch voellig hin |
| 09:57:55 | Chestal | zwei Leute moegen ausserdem das ganz alte Radar, also als springende Panzer noch mit Massiven Rechtecken gemalt wurden |
| 09:58:05 | Chestal | kann ich aber nichts zu sagen, da ich ja nie mit jumping spiele |
| 09:59:11 | akira_ | Chestal: das mit dem jumping/enhanced radar ist manchmal ganz praktisch, manchmal scheisse |
| 10:00:22 | akira_ | das kann man aber aus/anschalten |
| 10:00:39 | akira_ | sag mal, hat sf.net heute irgendwie probleme ? |
| 10:00:44 | Chestal | oh, Valoche hat an den bzmessages gebastelt |
| 10:00:50 | Chestal | scheitn ziemlich lahm zu sein, ja |
| 10:01:05 | akira_ | scheisse, ich wollt den patch updaten |
| 10:02:12 | akira_ | sieht cool aus |
| 10:06:41 | Chestal | und wieder 22 Spams gefangen |
| 10:08:33 | akira_ | daemliches sf.net |
| 10:08:41 | akira_ | so |
| 10:08:45 | akira_ | cu schoenes we |
| 10:53:17 | teA_ | hello |
| 13:31:27 | teA__ | chestal! |
| 13:40:03 | strayer | hi |
| 13:40:13 | Chestal | hi strayer |
| 13:40:41 | Chestal | strayer: you didn't join a team yet? |
| 13:41:08 | strayer | no... |
| 13:41:59 | strayer | but i will change it....have a flatrate at home... |
| 13:42:04 | strayer | now |
| 13:43:16 | Chestal | ah, good |
| 13:43:26 | Chestal | any idea which team to join? |
| 13:43:34 | strayer | not really |
| 13:43:39 | Chestal | there are sooo many players withotu team and soo many teams that never play |
| 13:44:17 | strayer | i know....but the most members of these teams i never see playing... |
| 13:50:54 | teA__ | lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....................................................................................................... |
| 14:00:43 | Chestal | hi pnm, exams over? |
| 14:01:40 | pnm | yup! |
| 14:01:47 | pnm | finished yesterday |
| 14:01:55 | pnm | have you had exams? |
| 14:03:33 | Chestal | not lately, but years ago, yes :-) |
| 14:04:57 | pnm | aha |
| 14:05:47 | Chestal | do you already have the results? |
| 14:06:10 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 14:06:11 | pnm | nope :( |
| 14:06:13 | iLLf8d | LOL |
| 14:06:18 | pnm | got to wait until August |
| 14:06:26 | iLLf8d | thats a very bizarre statement chestal |
| 14:06:38 | Chestal | ill: hmm, is it? |
| 14:06:49 | iLLf8d | I missed the first part of the discussion |
| 14:07:01 | taD_gone | moocow |
| 14:07:04 | iLLf8d | my mind ran away with that statement heh |
| 14:07:26 | taD_gone | anyone have roger wilco? |
| 14:07:39 | taD_gone | ah, thought so.... |
| 14:07:42 | Chestal | ill: hmm, I don't get it :-) |
| 14:08:01 | iLLf8d | think STDs heh |
| 14:08:09 | iLLf8d | or pregnancy test |
| 14:08:12 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 14:08:19 | taD_gone | rolls his eyes |
| 14:08:38 | iLLf8d | ok in hour 10 of my gentoo install |
| 14:08:45 | iLLf8d | I need a faster machine this is pathetic |
| 14:08:46 | taD_gone | gentoo? |
| 14:08:56 | iLLf8d | ok I gotta go gf wants her sims box back heh |
| 14:08:57 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 14:08:58 | jzaun | iLLf8d: Hows this install going? |
| 14:09:03 | iLLf8d | so far so good |
| 14:09:06 | taD_gone | wonders what gentoo is |
| 14:09:18 | iLLf8d | bootstrap too 6-8 hours |
| 14:09:19 | jzaun | gentoo is a linux distro |
| 14:09:22 | taD_gone | oh |
| 14:09:24 | taD_gone | :) |
| 14:09:29 | taD_gone | good luck |
| 14:09:38 | iLLf8d | ehh its motoring along |
| 14:09:39 | jzaun | iLLf8d: what happened to the 5 hour install? :-P |
| 14:09:51 | iLLf8d | started at about 9 oclock last night |
| 14:09:57 | taD_gone | macs can install in 5 min. |
| 14:09:58 | taD_gone | :) |
| 14:10:00 | iLLf8d | the acutally install started at 11 |
| 14:10:13 | iLLf8d | well the guy had a athalon 900 |
| 14:10:18 | iLLf8d | his bootstrap was 1-2 hours |
| 14:10:20 | taD_gone | heh |
| 14:10:22 | iLLf8d | I figued mine would be 5 |
| 14:10:25 | jzaun | ahh... sounds like alot of fun, hope its all worth it |
| 14:10:26 | iLLf8d | was more like 8 heh |
| 14:10:32 | iLLf8d | =P |
| 14:10:45 | iLLf8d | well not really any work |
| 14:10:52 | iLLf8d | you set it up and let it compile and recompile |
| 14:11:00 | jzaun | Wonder how my dual 500 would do? |
| 14:11:08 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | not much faster |
| 14:11:14 | jzaun | why recompile once compiled? |
| 14:11:19 | iLLf8d | it compiles c and c++ compilers then does tools then recompiles them against the new compiles |
| 14:11:20 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | heh |
| 14:11:27 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | ugh |
| 14:11:28 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | ack |
| 14:11:35 | iLLf8d | so its gotta go thru 2 iterations to get things all optomised |
| 14:11:47 | jzaun | wow |
| 14:11:56 | iLLf8d | cause it has a binary package compiles a bunch of stuff |
| 14:12:04 | iLLf8d | nthen compiles the compiler |
| 14:12:14 | iLLf8d | then recompiles stuff with new compiler etc... |
| 14:12:21 | iLLf8d | its like a chicken and the egg thing |
| 14:12:31 | jzaun | I got it... |
| 14:12:38 | jzaun | does it dload the source off the net? |
| 14:12:49 | iLLf8d | yeah it basically builds the whole box |
| 14:12:50 | jzaun | to get the latest and greates? |
| 14:13:02 | iLLf8d | its on the base system build phase |
| 14:13:05 | jzaun | god... would take years on my pitty 56K |
| 14:13:19 | iLLf8d | the bootstrap was mostly compilers and compiler utils like 5 packages |
| 14:13:29 | iLLf8d | yeah i've been getting 256K down so... |
| 14:13:30 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 14:13:53 | jzaun | how long you figure till X and gnome/kde are up and running? |
| 14:14:02 | iLLf8d | dunno yet |
| 14:14:03 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | 2 days |
| 14:14:10 | iLLf8d | sheesh at its current rate damn |
| 14:14:15 | jzaun | tad_the_mac_guy_: just 2 days? |
| 14:14:16 | iLLf8d | i'm guessing 15-20 hours |
| 14:14:24 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | oh |
| 14:14:25 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | sorry |
| 14:14:28 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | one week |
| 14:14:52 | jzaun | =) |
| 14:15:15 | iLLf8d | thats cause of my piddly k6-2 500 tho =P |
| 14:15:19 | iLLf8d | ah well |
| 14:15:20 | jzaun | iLLf8d: Who is bzedit's author? |
| 14:15:20 | iLLf8d | I bbl =) |
| 14:15:28 | iLLf8d | captain_proton |
| 14:15:29 | tad_the_mac_guy_ | captain_proton |
| 14:15:31 | jzaun | catch ya later :-) |
| 14:15:35 | iLLf8d | he's outta town for another 2 days or so |
| 14:15:44 | iLLf8d | said he would be gone 5 days |
| 14:15:50 | iLLf8d | he's always in ehre when home |
| 14:16:56 | Lumberjack | jpablo2: hi, could you plz resend the file? it lost connection and didn't reconnect :( |
| 14:56:14 | teA_ | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah that was a nice duell |
| 14:56:36 | teA_ | :[ |
| 14:56:41 | teA_ | :) |
| 15:21:26 | teA_ | who ever has KaZaA ore morpheus ! The oldest to the newist versions are in there ! by [TeA] Have fun downloading |
| 15:37:23 | | OoooO was last seen on #bzflag 15 hours, 15 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying: hi arathorn [Fri Jun 28 01:21:50 2002] |
| 15:37:23 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot seen OoooO |
| 15:37:53 | | OoOoO was last seen on #bzflag 15 hours, 16 minutes and 3 seconds ago, saying: hi arathorn [Fri Jun 28 01:21:50 2002] |
| 15:37:53 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot seen OoOoO |
| 15:38:10 | | oOOOo was last seen on #bzflag 15 hours, 16 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: hi arathorn [Fri Jun 28 01:21:50 2002] |
| 15:38:10 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot seen oOOOo |
| 15:38:17 | [TeA|TrEE] | aaaah |
| 15:59:49 | | oOoOo was last seen on #bzflag 15 hours, 37 minutes and 59 seconds ago, saying: hi arathorn [Fri Jun 28 01:21:50 2002] |
| 15:59:49 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot seen oOoOo |
| 16:01:53 | | OOoOO was last seen on #bzflag 15 hours, 40 minutes and 3 seconds ago, saying: hi arathorn [Fri Jun 28 01:21:50 2002] |
| 16:01:53 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot seen OOoOO |
| 16:01:56 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 16:47:53 | jpablo2 | Lumberjack: |
| 16:49:38 | Lumberjack | jpablo2: thx |
| 16:54:59 | jpablo2 | np.- |
| 17:13:11 | goofey | is back (gone 10:50:33) |
| 17:22:19 | jpablo2 | BZFlag: are you in this photo: http://lwn.net/Articles/3470/?format=printable ? |
| 17:27:14 | BZFlag | jpablo2: nope. just did OLS this year, not the kernel summit. |
| 17:29:19 | jpablo2 | oh. |
| 17:30:04 | jpablo2 | reboot. |
| 17:50:37 | paulj | what';s this about teams? |
| 17:51:52 | | no idea, chestal |
| 17:51:52 | Chestal | ibot, team? |
| 17:51:55 | | teams are not fixed yet. ALthough I would be happy to play with lupi and tankmann |
| 17:51:55 | Chestal | ibot: teams? |
| 17:51:59 | Chestal | hmm |
| 17:52:02 | | Chestal: I forgot teams |
| 17:52:02 | Chestal | ibot: forget teams |
| 17:52:20 | Chestal | paulj: I suppose you know th basic concept of a team, peopel playing together? :-) |
| 17:52:53 | paulj | Chestal: ehhh... yes. it's that simple? :) |
| 17:53:02 | Chestal | well, are you talking about the ctf league? |
| 17:53:05 | paulj | Chestal: thought maybe there was some team registration somewhere. |
| 17:53:08 | Chestal | paulj: yes, there is |
| 17:53:11 | | chestal: i haven't a clue |
| 17:53:11 | Chestal | ibot: league? |
| 17:53:21 | | OK, Chestal. |
| 17:53:21 | Chestal | ibot: league is http://www.bzflag.org/league/ |
| 17:53:24 | | jolly was last seen on #bzflag 5 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: he is [Sat Jun 22 19:42:18 2002] |
| 17:53:24 | paulj | ibot: seen jolly |
| 17:53:28 | Chestal | paulj: check out that URL |
| 17:53:40 | paulj | wilco |
| 17:53:54 | paulj | ibot help |
| 17:54:51 | teA_ | Annihilation team around ? |
| 17:55:21 | teA_ | #challenges |
| 17:55:31 | paulj | woohoo i registered. |
| 17:55:50 | Chestal | paulj: as "paul"? |
| 17:56:04 | paulj | that'd be me, yes - it's what i always play as. |
| 17:56:16 | teA_ | ./join #Challenges |
| 17:56:18 | teA_ | lol |
| 17:56:28 | Chestal | paulj: well, next step is to found or join a team |
| 17:56:47 | paulj | hmmm..... i'll see if i can press gang jolly into joining a team. |
| 17:57:28 | Chestal | paulj: that might be a difficult task :-) |
| 17:57:34 | paulj | Chestal: why? |
| 17:58:26 | Chestal | paulj: well, you can ask of course, but several teams already did and jolly didn't decide yet |
| 17:58:41 | Chestal | are you a good player? :-) |
| 17:58:50 | teA_ | i am ;) |
| 17:58:51 | teA_ | lol |
| 17:59:02 | teA_ | I think i will have a new nick |
| 17:59:15 | paulj | Chestal: he he.. well, i'll see if i can convince jolly to join in a team with me. |
| 17:59:29 | teA_ | lol |
| 17:59:46 | teA_ | paulij: chestal is the team Moles |
| 17:59:56 | teA_ | and i think he would never just change team ! |
| 17:59:57 | paulj | Chestal: i'd much rather be in the same team as jolly cause i can never beat him. |
| 18:00:28 | Chestal | jolly is good, yes |
| 18:00:42 | paulj | Chestal: am i good? well, in my mind i am. :) |
| 18:00:58 | paulj | Chestal: but i do generally manage to have a positive score. |
| 18:01:24 | paulj | (i've been playing for a good few years, so that's not a great achievement) |
| 18:01:33 | Chestal | well, that depends onthe server |
| 18:01:35 | paulj | i got a 200 once. |
| 18:01:47 | Chestal | for ducati ctf >0 is very good in general |
| 18:02:12 | paulj | 200 for 90 something too. so better tan 2:1 kill ratio. woohoo! |
| 18:02:24 | paulj | (but most of the players were newbies. :) ) |
| 18:02:51 | paulj | havnt been on ducati in a good while. must try it again sometime. (maybe sunday eve) |
| 18:02:59 | paulj | although, i generally prefer aprilia. |
| 18:03:08 | Chestal | hmm, never heard of that server |
| 18:03:18 | Chestal | but I hardly play anywhere else than ducati |
| 18:03:22 | Chestal | which settigns does it have? |
| 18:03:38 | Chestal | paulj: did you play the ducati CTF style? |
| 18:03:47 | paulj | it's not - motorbike. :) ducati is an italian motorbike brand (also italian name i guess), aprilia is another. |
| 18:03:53 | paulj | was a (bad) joke. |
| 18:03:58 | Chestal | ah :-) |
| 18:04:39 | paulj | not yes, last time i played on ducati it was no jump, single or two shot. |
| 18:05:00 | paulj | Chestal: yes... of course you would prefer ducati frank... |
| 18:05:07 | paulj | :) |
| 18:05:24 | Chestal | yes, still no jump, two shots + ricochet |
| 18:05:28 | paulj | Chestal: notice how the computer you are on is called vmax? |
| 18:05:44 | paulj | Chestal: whoever named all those computers must have been a motorbike fan. |
| 18:05:44 | Chestal | the random world 2 team ctf is very popular lately, that's what is being used for the leage |
| 18:06:04 | paulj | (vmax is a bike yamaha make). |
| 18:06:06 | Chestal | yes, that's the name rule we agreed upon a long time ago here |
| 18:06:18 | paulj | and no aprilia? |
| 18:06:22 | Chestal | we also have virago, vespa, indian, intruder etc. |
| 18:06:26 | paulj | how could you leave out aprilia? |
| 18:06:49 | paulj | good naming scheme. :) |
| 18:06:58 | Chestal | is x-eleven a motorbike, too? |
| 18:07:03 | Chestal | and deauville, pathfinder? |
| 18:07:28 | paulj | (the computer i'm on is called dunlop, other computers here are called rainey, doohan, schwantz, fogarty, etc..) |
| 18:07:53 | Chestal | and we have a transalp, and a harley of course |
| 18:08:07 | Chestal | bandit, goldwing, simson,... |
| 18:08:10 | paulj | Chestal: deauville is yes (a Honda bike). the other 2, dont know - but it's feasible. |
| 18:08:38 | paulj | well, no aprilia - i'm offended... |
| 18:08:50 | paulj | will be going home on his Aprilia RS250 soon. |
| 18:08:54 | Chestal | ping: host name aprilia NOT FOUND :-) |
| 18:09:02 | paulj | a travesty!!!! |
| 18:09:03 | teA_ | chestal ? |
| 18:10:17 | teA_ | which nick is the best ? Rzarector ,grym reaper , gate keeper, undertaker |
| 18:11:05 | teA_ | hello ? |
| 18:11:09 | teA_ | ore tea ? |
| 18:12:07 | Chestal | hmm, "tea" is not bad |
| 18:12:13 | Chestal | I like drinking tea |
| 18:12:15 | teA_ | und die anderen ? |
| 18:12:19 | teA_ | lolo |
| 18:12:22 | Chestal | mayeb "darjeeling" :-) |
| 18:12:40 | teA_ | welches findest du von den nicks gut ? |
| 18:12:45 | paulj | hmmm.. is tim watching the channel? |
| 18:12:50 | paulj | BZFlag: you there? |
| 18:13:00 | teA_ | chestal ?!?! |
| 18:13:23 | Chestal | tea: hmm, weiss nicht, mir gefaellt 'tea' am besten, sonst wohl 'undertaker' |
| 18:13:49 | paulj | gaan we nu duits spreken? |
| 18:14:06 | paulj | teA_: ga maar met "tea" - lijkt mij een goei nick. |
| 18:14:19 | teA_ | ? |
| 18:14:21 | Chestal | I think ibot cannot translate dutch |
| 18:14:24 | paulj | :) |
| 18:14:33 | teA_ | what the hell paulj |
| 18:14:37 | Chestal | he can translate soem German |
| 18:14:45 | | teA_: i'm not following you... |
| 18:14:45 | teA_ | ibot wie gehts |
| 18:14:49 | teA_ | lol |
| 18:14:55 | teA_ | also im on ducati ! |
| 18:15:52 | paulj | i reckon "tea" is a good nick. you see lots of people with 'studly' nicks, eg 'killer' or 'death' etc.. and they're always the ones who are crap - "tea" is better, or something else non-studly. |
| 18:16:19 | | i haven't a clue, paulj |
| 18:16:19 | paulj | ibot wat denk je van bzflag? |
| 18:16:23 | paulj | ah well. |
| 18:16:38 | Chestal | tea: ULT going to show up on Sunday for a match? |
| 18:17:50 | Chestal | ibot: x en de studly |
| 18:17:51 | | Chestal: studly |
| 18:17:54 | | Chestal: sorry... |
| 18:17:54 | Chestal | ibot: hmm |
| 18:18:03 | paulj | :) |
| 18:18:17 | | wish i knew, paulj |
| 18:18:17 | paulj | ibot what is studly |
| 18:18:23 | | ACTION looks for a new vein, and then shoots up |
| 18:18:23 | paulj | ibot botsmack |
| 18:18:28 | | thanks paulj :) |
| 18:18:28 | paulj | ibot botsnack |
| 18:18:44 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 18:18:44 | paulj | ibot botsmack |
| 18:18:46 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 18:18:46 | paulj | ibot botsmack |
| 18:18:47 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 18:18:47 | paulj | ibot botsmack |
| 18:18:48 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 18:18:48 | paulj | ibot botsmack |
| 18:18:49 | | paulj: huh? |
| 18:18:49 | paulj | ibot botsmack |
| 18:18:53 | | ACTION passes out unconscious, needle in arm. |
| 18:18:53 | paulj | ibot botsmack |
| 18:18:58 | paulj | ha ha |
| 18:19:18 | paulj | think i saw Tad do that yesterday, laughed myself silly. |
| 18:19:21 | Chestal | paulj: studly = masculine, cool ? |
| 18:19:29 | paulj | yes. |
| 18:19:40 | | Chestal: The hardware bus needs a new token. |
| 18:19:40 | Chestal | ibot: excuse |
| 18:19:47 | paulj | LOL |
| 18:19:49 | Chestal | hmm |
| 18:19:52 | | paulj: The air conditioning water supply pipe ruptured over the machine room |
| 18:19:52 | paulj | ibot: excuse |
| 18:19:57 | | paulj: static from nylon underwear |
| 18:19:57 | paulj | ibot: excuse |
| 18:20:00 | Chestal | ah |
| 18:20:05 | Chestal | my irc is ignoring ibot |
| 18:20:07 | paulj | who wrote this ibot? |
| 18:20:20 | paulj | bzbot help |
| 18:20:23 | | somebody said i was dumb |
| 18:20:23 | Chestal | ibot: ibot? |
| 18:20:28 | | chestal: no idea |
| 18:20:28 | Chestal | ibot: author? |
| 18:20:33 | | chestal: no idea |
| 18:20:33 | Chestal | ibot: who wrote you? |
| 18:20:36 | | ibot is, like, dumb |
| 18:20:36 | paulj | ibot: who are you |
| 18:20:38 | | i haven't a clue, chestal |
| 18:20:38 | Chestal | ibot: father? |
| 18:20:44 | | paulj: sorry... |
| 18:20:44 | paulj | ibot: creator |
| 18:20:47 | | paulj: wish i knew |
| 18:20:47 | paulj | ibot: creator? |
| 18:20:51 | paulj | hmm.. |
| 18:20:57 | paulj | bzbot: help |
| 18:21:00 | | paulj is nothing but a squishy mass of churlish dung. |
| 18:21:00 | taD_gone | ibot insult paulj |
| 18:21:16 | | taD_gone is nothing but a goatish bag of rude-snouted dung. |
| 18:21:16 | paulj | ibot insult taD_gone |
| 18:21:23 | paulj | he - excellent. |
| 18:21:37 | | paulj is nothing but an inept thimbleful of humid snake bait. |
| 18:21:37 | taD_gone | ibot insult paulj |
| 18:21:37 | | YOW!! What should the entire human race DO?? Consume a fifth of |
| 18:21:37 | taD_gone | ibot yow |
| 18:21:47 | paulj | amazing what amuses you when you're trying to find a reason not to do work. |
| 18:21:53 | taD_gone | hehe |
| 18:21:58 | taD_gone | ack |
| 18:21:59 | taD_gone | run |
| 18:22:05 | taD_gone | its the mac guy |
| 18:22:15 | paulj | BZFlag: you there at all? |
| 18:22:24 | teA_ | Tadddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd |
| 18:22:27 | teA_ | hello :) |
| 18:24:01 | paulj | is away: for a quick smoke |
| 18:24:32 | tad_mac_guy_gone | fills paulj cigaret with matches |
| 18:27:15 | TeA-[RZARectoR] | TeA`s new nick is [RZARectoR] |
| 18:27:24 | paulj | is back (gone 00:03:24) |
| 18:27:43 | paulj | threw that cigarette away and smoked another one. |
| 18:30:09 | tad_mac_guy_gone | took paulj pack away and flushed it down the tiolet |
| 18:30:23 | paulj | has another pack |
| 18:30:27 | paulj | hides the other pack |
| 18:30:53 | tad_mac_guy_gone | raids pauljs house and burns every pack he sees |
| 18:31:03 | paulj | is in work |
| 18:31:19 | paulj | :) |
| 18:31:25 | tad_mac_guy_gone | chased paulj away from his house to his work |
| 18:31:30 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ha |
| 18:31:37 | paulj | :) |
| 18:32:11 | paulj | works in a secure facility - no way for tad to get in and get at paulj's cigarettes |
| 18:32:27 | tad_mac_guy_gone | fills paulj's house up with gas and calls him on his cell phone |
| 18:32:33 | paulj | :) |
| 18:33:42 | tad_mac_guy_gone | tows paulj gas filled car to his work and pushes it against the door |
| 18:33:53 | tad_mac_guy_gone | lights his car |
| 18:33:56 | paulj | paulj drives a motorbike. |
| 18:34:04 | tad_mac_guy_gone | um |
| 18:34:07 | paulj | :) |
| 18:34:57 | tad_mac_guy_gone | drops a gas truck on top of paulj motorbike and watches it explode into little tiny pieces |
| 18:35:35 | paulj | which motorbike exactly did you blow up? (there are a few parked at my work) |
| 18:35:47 | tad_mac_guy_gone | prys paulj'S motorbike off the pavement and gives it back to paulj on a silver plater |
| 18:36:34 | paulj | gets into his BZ tank and shoots tad. |
| 18:36:48 | tad_mac_guy_gone | jumps up and out of the way |
| 18:36:54 | paulj | has gm |
| 18:37:11 | tad_mac_guy_gone | lands behind paulj and shoots behind him |
| 18:37:16 | tad_mac_guy_gone | has ST |
| 18:37:20 | paulj | :) |
| 18:37:33 | Lumberjack | jpablo2: damn my 24h disconnect came earlier then i thought :( |
| 18:37:35 | | the weather is nothing but an evil ass-full of measled pus. |
| 18:37:35 | Chestal | ibot: insult the weather |
| 18:37:39 | tad_mac_guy_gone | teehee |
| 18:37:50 | Chestal | ok, I'm off, cu |
| 18:38:10 | tad_mac_guy_gone | blows up Chestals tank before he can move |
| 18:38:29 | paulj | bye chestal. |
| 18:38:35 | tad_mac_guy_gone | cya |
| 18:39:01 | TeA-[RZARectoR] | hihi |
| 18:39:10 | paulj | Chestal: i'll have a look on ducati ctf on sunday |
| 18:39:59 | tad_mac_guy_gone | takes pauljs tank away and hides it in a nuclear power plant |
| 18:40:35 | tad_mac_guy_gone | takes MrApathyCreams computer and crushes it with his mac |
| 18:41:04 | | ACTION shoots up |
| 18:41:04 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot botsmack |
| 18:41:05 | MrApathyCream | is pleased to know the mac is good for something |
| 18:41:29 | tad_mac_guy_gone | take MrApathyCreams computer and recycles it |
| 18:41:53 | tad_mac_guy_gone | takes his mac and puts it where MrApathyCreams computer was |
| 18:42:43 | tad_mac_guy_gone | starts up the mac and MrApathyCream bolts for the window |
| 18:43:19 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ha |
| 18:53:32 | paulj | bye |
| 19:30:07 | jpablo | Lumberjack: |
| 19:30:44 | Lumberjack | jpablo: k |
| 20:47:45 | MrApathyCream | still ols-ing? |
| 20:49:30 | BZFlag | yepper. |
| 20:59:32 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_details.php?id=744 |
| 21:00:34 | Widget | Evil Windows! |
| 21:00:40 | Widget | Er... |
| 21:00:42 | Widget | Lindows!!! |
| 21:00:47 | Widget | Begone, thou Lindows! |
| 21:01:08 | Widget | !!!!!!!! |
| 21:01:10 | Widget | MY GOD!!!! |
| 21:01:20 | Widget | Os tjos rea;;u NZF;ah |
| 21:01:21 | Widget | ? |
| 21:01:25 | Widget | Os tjos rea;;u NZF;ah? |
| 21:01:37 | Widget | Is this really BZFlag? |
| 21:01:58 | Chestal | Lindows is an abomination |
| 21:02:07 | Widget | Chestal: Precisely! |
| 21:02:12 | MrApathyCream | LZFlag tho? |
| 21:02:12 | Widget | Chestal: GPL violators!!! |
| 21:02:28 | Widget | Chestal: Did you see the site? Is that game really BZFlag? |
| 21:02:31 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm? |
| 21:02:33 | tad_mac_guy_gone | no |
| 21:02:35 | tad_mac_guy_gone | it cant be |
| 21:02:40 | Chestal | haven#t checked |
| 21:02:51 | Widget | Chestal: Go look at it! |
| 21:03:09 | tad_mac_guy_gone | you cant |
| 21:03:19 | tad_mac_guy_gone | it needs lindows and it browser |
| 21:03:27 | Chestal | hmm |
| 21:03:37 | Widget | tad_mac_guy_gone: I can access it. |
| 21:03:42 | tad_mac_guy_gone | oh? |
| 21:03:43 | Widget | tad_mac_guy_gone: Using Chimera X. |
| 21:03:46 | tad_mac_guy_gone | you have lindows? |
| 21:03:50 | Widget | tad_mac_guy_gone: Nope. |
| 21:03:55 | tad_mac_guy_gone | download ir? |
| 21:03:57 | tad_mac_guy_gone | it? |
| 21:04:02 | Widget | tad_mac_guy_gone: But I can access it in Mozilla, or on Chimera. |
| 21:04:07 | tad_mac_guy_gone | AHA!!!! |
| 21:04:08 | tad_mac_guy_gone | IT SI!!! |
| 21:04:09 | tad_mac_guy_gone | 1.7e4 |
| 21:04:10 | tad_mac_guy_gone | File size 1.92 MB |
| 21:04:10 | tad_mac_guy_gone | How long will it take? 56K Modem - 5 minutes |
| 21:04:10 | tad_mac_guy_gone | DSL/Cabel Modem - 34 seconds |
| 21:04:10 | tad_mac_guy_gone | T1/LAN - 12 seconds |
| 21:04:12 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Formats Supported |
| 21:04:14 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Date Added to Lindows.com 05-24-2002 |
| 21:04:16 | Widget | tad_mac_guy_gone: It doesnae require a Lindows browser. |
| 21:04:16 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Date last Updated 06-21-2002 |
| 21:04:18 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Vendor |
| 21:04:20 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Credits Unknown |
| 21:04:22 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Link to Source Code |
| 21:04:24 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Derivative of bzflag |
| 21:04:26 | tad_mac_guy_gone | Misc |
| 21:04:28 | tad_mac_guy_gone | |
| 21:04:30 | tad_mac_guy_gone | |
| 21:04:32 | tad_mac_guy_gone | |
| 21:04:34 | tad_mac_guy_gone | see?? |
| 21:04:37 | Widget | !!!!!!!! |
| 21:04:38 | tad_mac_guy_gone | LOOK! |
| 21:04:40 | tad_mac_guy_gone | http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_details.php?id=744&pg=specs |
| 21:04:45 | Widget | Wow....... BZFlag has been forked! |
| 21:04:48 | tad_mac_guy_gone | AHH!!!! |
| 21:04:52 | tad_mac_guy_gone | oh no!!! |
| 21:05:03 | tad_mac_guy_gone | WHaT TO DO? WHAT TO DO??? |
| 21:05:16 | Widget | No link to the source code!!!!! |
| 21:05:23 | tad_mac_guy_gone | and they are selling it |
| 21:05:23 | Chestal | hmm |
| 21:05:25 | Widget | Sue them! Immediately! |
| 21:05:25 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :( |
| 21:05:28 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea!!! |
| 21:05:33 | tad_mac_guy_gone | SUE!!!! |
| 21:05:35 | Chestal | did they contact anyone about this? |
| 21:05:38 | Chestal | where's the source? |
| 21:05:42 | | tad_mac_guy_gone: huh? |
| 21:05:42 | tad_mac_guy_gone | IBOT INSULT LINDOWS |
| 21:05:53 | | No luck, tad_mac_guy_gone |
| 21:05:53 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ibot insult lindows |
| 21:05:54 | Chestal | BZFlag: do you know anything about that? |
| 21:05:57 | Widget | Chestal: They haven't posted up the source. |
| 21:06:07 | Widget | Chestal: BZFlag isn't online. |
| 21:06:12 | tad_mac_guy_gone | nope |
| 21:06:14 | Chestal | if it is as it loosk to me, we sure shoudl do somethign about it |
| 21:06:21 | tad_mac_guy_gone | it has nothing under link to source |
| 21:06:26 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yea |
| 21:06:28 | Widget | Chestal: BZFlag owns the copyright, yes? |
| 21:06:35 | Widget | Chestal: So he is the only one who can do anything. |
| 21:06:57 | Chestal | no |
| 21:06:57 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hmm |
| 21:07:01 | Chestal | everyone can do something |
| 21:07:01 | tad_mac_guy_gone | very bad boys |
| 21:07:06 | Widget | Chestal: Who owns the copyright? |
| 21:07:09 | Chestal | 'link to source'? |
| 21:07:14 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yup |
| 21:07:18 | tad_mac_guy_gone | http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_details.php?id=744&pg=specs |
| 21:07:20 | Chestal | where's that? |
| 21:07:21 | Widget | Chestal: Look at the page. They have a category called "link to source". |
| 21:07:22 | tad_mac_guy_gone | look under there |
| 21:07:24 | Widget | Chestal: With nothing under it. |
| 21:07:25 | tad_mac_guy_gone | nothing there |
| 21:07:28 | Chestal | ah |
| 21:07:42 | Chestal | well, ths is a license violation |
| 21:07:51 | tad_mac_guy_gone | yup |
| 21:07:57 | tad_mac_guy_gone | make tim a rich man |
| 21:08:00 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :P |
| 21:08:02 | tad_mac_guy_gone | kidding |
| 21:08:03 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ok |
| 21:08:05 | tad_mac_guy_gone | I am off |
| 21:08:11 | Chestal | parts of that source are probably mine |
| 21:08:14 | Chestal | I'll sue them :-) |
| 21:08:19 | tad_mac_guy_gone | to contact my lawer |
| 21:08:25 | tad_mac_guy_gone | hehe |
| 21:08:41 | Widget | Yah! Hm... if it was 1.8, I could sue them too! |
| 21:09:20 | Widget | tad_mac_guy_gone: Save a copy of the webpage. |
| 21:17:06 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ok |
| 21:17:25 | tad_mac_guy_gone | done |
| 21:17:58 | tad_mac_guy_gone | email them |
| 21:17:59 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 21:18:07 | tad_mac_guy_gone | over and over again |
| 21:24:08 | almogaver | hi |
| 21:26:27 | Widget | hihihi, almogaver |
| 21:26:42 | Widget | almogaver: GPL violators for BZFlag have been found! |
| 21:26:48 | almogaver | Widget: where? |
| 21:27:35 | Widget | almogaver: s |
| 21:27:39 | Widget | http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_details.php?id=744&pg=specs |
| 21:27:54 | almogaver | ah! lindows |
| 21:28:04 | almogaver | they say their product is not yet a final release |
| 21:28:44 | Widget | Yes! They forked BZFlag! |
| 21:28:49 | Widget | And now they're not providing the source! |
| 21:29:14 | almogaver | 3DTank? what kind of name is that? |
| 21:29:38 | Widget | Their name for it. |
| 21:29:39 | Chestal | hi SATAN |
| 21:29:41 | almogaver | i don't like lindows... umm |
| 21:29:45 | almogaver | hola SATAN |
| 21:29:52 | Widget | Let's go to their headquarters and crush them! |
| 21:29:55 | Widget | Salve, SATAN. |
| 21:29:57 | Chestal | and a hearty hi to you, too, almo :-) |
| 21:29:58 | almogaver | I think their are using MS tactics |
| 21:30:12 | SATAN | hi almo |
| 21:30:15 | almogaver | hi Chestal :) |
| 21:30:24 | Chestal | who is behind lindows anyway? |
| 21:30:39 | Widget | Chestal: Michael Someoneortheother. |
| 21:30:44 | Widget | Chestal: He created mp3.com. |
| 21:30:46 | almogaver | lindows is a linux+wine with some modification on wine |
| 21:31:01 | Widget | almogaver: And KDE. |
| 21:31:01 | almogaver | wine was licensed with X11 license |
| 21:31:20 | almogaver | it allows to be modified and hide the changes |
| 21:31:22 | Chestal | KDE! Evil's incarnate |
| 21:31:34 | Widget | Precisely so! |
| 21:31:47 | almogaver | Chestal: KDE is much better than Gnome, I think |
| 21:31:51 | almogaver | Chestal: and it's german ;) |
| 21:32:01 | almogaver | I use kde |
| 21:32:07 | Chestal | naah, I don't liek KDE; haven't tried KDE 3, though |
| 21:32:14 | Chestal | GNome is ok, when you have too much memory |
| 21:32:19 | almogaver | no big changes from kde2 to kde3 |
| 21:32:21 | Widget | GUIs for Linux are bad anyways. |
| 21:32:23 | Chestal | but I like it simple and pragmatic |
| 21:32:28 | Chestal | all GUIs are bad |
| 21:32:28 | almogaver | i'm using now kde2, but i tried kde3 too |
| 21:32:33 | Chestal | I want my WPS |
| 21:32:38 | Chestal | that had some good features |
| 21:32:49 | almogaver | gnome is better for programmers |
| 21:32:56 | almogaver | it has better programs |
| 21:33:06 | Chestal | KDE has a bad window manager |
| 21:33:12 | almogaver | but... it seems like if it hasn't anything... |
| 21:33:18 | Chestal | with gnome, you can use several goo dones like sawmill |
| 21:33:35 | Widget | Chestal: You can use IceWM with KDE. |
| 21:33:43 | Widget | Chestal: Or any other KDE-compliant window manager. |
| 21:33:57 | Chestal | Widget: uh, you can? that's new, isn't it? Before, you were stuck with the KDE window manager? |
| 21:34:13 | Widget | Chestal: I don't think it's new... you could do that in KDE 2 as well. |
| 21:34:14 | Chestal | new= > KDE 1 for me |
| 21:34:20 | Widget | Ah. |
| 21:34:23 | Widget | I dunno about KDE 1. |
| 21:37:19 | Chestal | is using fvwm2 :-) |
| 21:38:05 | Widget | What! A window manager? Who needs newfangled nonsense like this? |
| 21:38:13 | Widget | X is bad enough.... |
| 21:39:41 | almogaver | are there any team here to play a match? |
| 21:39:54 | almogaver | there are 3 hIs players |
| 21:41:48 | Chestal | hmm, two Zees on ducati |
| 21:42:05 | Chestal | but I don't know if you want to play against them again :_) |
| 21:42:12 | almogaver | we played 2 times against tlz |
| 21:51:59 | almogaver | bye, i'm going to play |
| 22:04:00 | SATAN | que animado esta este chat |
| 23:20:46 | Lumberjack | jp_out: big THX and bye |
| 23:20:56 | Lumberjack | bye @all |
| 23:50:39 | tad_mac_guy_gone | ooh, I want one.... |
| 23:50:41 | tad_mac_guy_gone | SP9004 aluminum bolt action laser sighted electrically controlled potato rifle. |
| 23:50:43 | tad_mac_guy_gone | :) |
| 23:51:03 | tad_mac_guy_gone | http://www.spudtech.com/launchers.html |