| 00:00:04 | MrApathyCream | next we need snow |
| 00:00:11 | captain_proton | actually next we need fog |
| 00:00:15 | MrApathyCream | and ligntning |
| 00:00:39 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:00:41 | captain_proton | i need tim |
| 00:00:47 | captain_proton | because i moved some files around |
| 00:01:27 | captain_proton | and delete/add has the side effect of losing the history |
| 00:06:16 | MrApathyCream | lovely |
| 00:06:28 | MrApathyCream | don't know ottawa's area code, sorry |
| 00:07:00 | MrApathyCream | i think i got king of the hill in 1.8, need to get anutter box to test tho |
| 00:07:22 | captain_proton | oooh |
| 00:07:27 | MrApathyCream | stinks that you can't play with two clients on the same machine |
| 00:07:35 | captain_proton | i can |
| 00:07:48 | MrApathyCream | without them domeing one? |
| 00:07:53 | captain_proton | actually, you can to |
| 00:07:59 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 00:08:07 | captain_proton | run them both windowed, and use the 'autopilot' command to switch between them |
| 00:08:20 | MrApathyCream | autopilot? |
| 00:08:44 | captain_proton | yup |
| 00:08:48 | MrApathyCream | wassa |
| 00:08:50 | captain_proton | in console, type 'autopilot' |
| 00:10:23 | captain_proton | self explainatory once you do it |
| 00:11:08 | MrApathyCream | will try, if not will do: |
| 00:11:18 | MrApathyCream | 'protons_a_funnin' |
| 00:11:21 | MrApathyCream | and see what happens |
| 00:12:09 | MrApathyCream | bbl |
| 03:46:52 | Widget | Damn. |
| 03:46:53 | Widget | This sucks. |
| 03:47:31 | captain_proton | ? |
| 03:47:55 | Widget | Match tomorrow at 6:00 AM our time. |
| 03:48:09 | Widget | And I'll be up until 1:30 watching World Cup. |
| 03:48:20 | captain_proton | eek |
| 05:21:54 | jpablo | pragma: sucks. |
| 05:26:25 | Widget | hihihi, jpablo. |
| 05:26:34 | jpablo | hey [Cocoa]Widget. |
| 05:26:47 | Widget | What's your first name? |
| 05:27:38 | jpablo | Juan. |
| 05:27:52 | jpablo | J[uan]Pablo |
| 05:28:36 | Widget | Ah. |
| 05:28:44 | Widget | You will be watching the final tonight, yes? |
| 05:29:44 | jpablo | i don't thinkso. |
| 05:29:50 | jpablo | i have to take a plan tomorrow. |
| 05:29:55 | jpablo | s/plan/plane |
| 05:30:04 | jpablo | the final is at 6:00am here. |
| 05:30:53 | Widget | Wow. |
| 05:31:01 | Widget | Ah. |
| 05:31:06 | Widget | I have a match at 6:00 AM. |
| 05:31:11 | Widget | Against ult. |
| 05:31:23 | Widget | And World Cup at 11. I don't think I'll get much sleep. :( |
| 05:31:43 | Widget | At least tape it. |
| 05:32:45 | jpablo | i don't really like futbol. |
| 05:38:29 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: ! |
| 05:46:23 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 05:48:30 | captain_proton | how goes KotH? |
| 05:49:07 | MrApathyCream | haven't don nuttin, since last time |
| 05:54:31 | MrApathyCream | friggin link errors |
| 05:57:27 | captain_proton | ? |
| 05:58:03 | MrApathyCream | region and bzfs, not sure |
| 05:58:40 | captain_proton | oh ew |
| 06:00:46 | MrApathyCream | hmm, fixed it... |
| 06:00:50 | captain_proton | yay |
| 06:00:56 | MrApathyCream | moved bunches of files to region project. |
| 06:02:46 | captain_proton | sounds painful |
| 06:06:08 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:16:49 | fontenot | ok i am fucked now |
| 06:16:57 | fontenot | all of a sudden I cannot pickup flags at all |
| 06:17:03 | fontenot | and the servers always call me unknown |
| 06:17:49 | fontenot | YET e4 works |
| 06:17:50 | captain_proton | udp firewall? |
| 06:17:54 | fontenot | so what is going on? |
| 06:17:57 | fontenot | I was playing fine |
| 06:18:05 | fontenot | on a server with no flags |
| 06:18:06 | MrApathyCream | firewall? |
| 06:18:13 | fontenot | let me say again |
| 06:18:16 | fontenot | it was working |
| 06:18:22 | fontenot | then it suddenly stopped working |
| 06:18:26 | fontenot | i restarted twice |
| 06:18:31 | fontenot | reconnected several times |
| 06:18:34 | fontenot | to two diff servers |
| 06:18:37 | fontenot | cannot pickup flags |
| 06:18:39 | fontenot | with e6 |
| 06:18:41 | fontenot | e4 works |
| 06:19:26 | captain_proton | no clue |
| 06:19:45 | fontenot | great |
| 06:20:27 | fontenot | first my connection keeps going out and now this |
| 06:21:16 | fontenot | any way i can debug it? |
| 06:21:24 | captain_proton | not really |
| 06:21:25 | fontenot | i will not go back to e4 |
| 06:21:28 | fontenot | cooool |
| 06:21:40 | captain_proton | you could ethereal it and see if its missing certain types of packets (like UDP) |
| 06:25:57 | fontenot | looks like a problem with e6 client and e6 servers |
| 06:26:07 | fontenot | i connected to an e2 server with e6 client and i can pickup flags |
| 06:27:07 | fontenot | yes that seems to be it |
| 06:27:16 | fontenot | but it was working earlier today |
| 06:27:58 | fontenot | ok i just found a e6 server where I can pickup flags so I now have no idea what's going on |
| 06:28:50 | MrApathyCream | could be just a real dirty route to the one server |
| 06:28:55 | MrApathyCream | with lots o dropped packets |
| 06:29:14 | fontenot | but out of like 4 e6 servers, only one lets me pickup flags now |
| 06:29:30 | fontenot | i wish I knew when this started exactly |
| 06:29:37 | fontenot | i had been playing for a few hours on a flagless server |
| 06:29:43 | fontenot | then they suddenly added flags |
| 06:29:47 | fontenot | but I could not pick any up |
| 06:29:52 | fontenot | so i tried other servers |
| 06:29:55 | fontenot | and could not |
| 06:29:59 | fontenot | tried e4 and could |
| 06:31:55 | fontenot | and why do I spawn and ppl are already shooting at me |
| 06:32:26 | fontenot | 3 times in a row now |
| 06:34:26 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:34:36 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: is handicapped style fun? |
| 06:34:42 | fontenot | but in e4 ppl are warping all over |
| 06:43:26 | MrApathyCream | if your bad it is :) |
| 06:43:28 | MrApathyCream | so yes |
| 06:43:54 | MrApathyCream | dang View::renderChildren is impossible to follow |
| 06:48:52 | fontenot_ | tcp mode does not help |
| 06:50:40 | MrApathyCream | despises 1.8 code base |
| 06:58:00 | captain_proton | what are you using View::renderChildren for? |
| 06:58:24 | MrApathyCream | are right, i give up, where is the main call sign top left drawn? |
| 06:58:37 | MrApathyCream | it should be this hard |
| 06:58:45 | MrApathyCream | shouldn't |
| 06:58:56 | captain_proton | <text x="4p" y="-4p">${infoCallsign}: ${outputScore}</text> |
| 06:59:03 | captain_proton | view.bzc:15 |
| 06:59:37 | MrApathyCream | ok, but how do you specify the color? |
| 06:59:55 | captain_proton | view.bzc:14 |
| 06:59:59 | captain_proton | <color value="team" /> |
| 07:00:19 | MrApathyCream | and what does that mean |
| 07:00:51 | captain_proton | draws in whatever color team you are |
| 07:01:12 | MrApathyCream | well, i get two different colors, one for the main callsign, and a different for the scoreboard |
| 07:01:19 | captain_proton | ? |
| 07:01:24 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 07:01:31 | MrApathyCream | my point exactly... this code is aweful |
| 07:01:38 | captain_proton | 'awe'ful? |
| 07:01:45 | captain_proton | explain what you're seeing |
| 07:02:08 | MrApathyCream | Main callsign yellow, scoreboard callsign white |
| 07:02:15 | MrApathyCream | i want main one to be white too |
| 07:02:43 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 07:05:25 | captain_proton | can you set the current team to '8' ? |
| 07:05:32 | Widget | Huh? |
| 07:05:40 | captain_proton | not you |
| 07:06:01 | captain_proton | looks like the colors table is indexed by team # |
| 07:06:07 | captain_proton | 0-4 are the teams |
| 07:06:16 | captain_proton | err - set it to 7 |
| 07:06:17 | captain_proton | miscounted |
| 07:07:35 | MrApathyCream | did all that |
| 07:08:06 | MrApathyCream | just want the line that's responsible for actually drawing the damn thing |
| 07:08:26 | captain_proton | look at View.cxx:66? |
| 07:09:27 | MrApathyCream | where's view.cxx? |
| 07:09:51 | captain_proton | src/view/ |
| 07:11:14 | captain_proton | looks like if you set myTeam to 7, it ought to change to white |
| 07:12:28 | captain_proton | and call View::setColorsDirty() [static function] |
| 07:15:01 | captain_proton | the code isn't so bad |
| 07:15:07 | captain_proton | its much more of a state machine than before |
| 07:15:59 | MrApathyCream | i give up... it's not worth this headache |
| 07:16:17 | captain_proton | can you send me a tree and i'll hack at it? |
| 07:16:32 | MrApathyCream | it's like fixing yacc output |
| 07:16:49 | captain_proton | lol |
| 07:47:18 | Maelstrom | hello widget |
| 07:47:23 | Widget | Hi, Maelstrom. |
| 07:47:50 | Widget | I don't know how this must work on Trillian. |
| 07:47:50 | Wing | there we go |
| 07:47:58 | Widget | Can you see the people in the channel, etc.? |
| 07:48:01 | Wing | yeah |
| 07:48:29 | Wing | are these other people sleeping? |
| 07:49:10 | Widget | Many of them, yes. |
| 07:49:15 | Wing | hehe |
| 07:50:30 | Wing | alrighty now i understand a few things |
| 07:50:39 | Wing | but where do you type commands? |
| 07:51:04 | Widget | Uh..... right here? |
| 07:51:09 | Wing | oh |
| 07:51:10 | Widget | You can usually type them anywhere. |
| 07:51:13 | Wing | ic |
| 07:51:21 | Wing | so give me something |
| 07:51:29 | Wing | what sort of commands are there? |
| 07:51:38 | Widget | Try /help |
| 07:53:50 | Wing | ok then |
| 07:53:54 | Wing | i better sleep |
| 07:53:55 | Wing | cya |
| 07:54:41 | Rev_Ef | Gweh? |
| 07:54:52 | Widget | Allo, Rev_Ef. |
| 07:55:04 | Rev_Ef | Hey. |
| 07:55:06 | vogon_jeltz | Rev_Ef: captain_proton's the unsaved soul. |
| 07:55:23 | Rev_Ef | gets his hammer |
| 07:55:43 | vogon_jeltz | Kill "Bob." |
| 07:56:09 | Rev_Ef | Anyway, I was coerced into this area, just bored. |
| 07:56:27 | Rev_Ef | I am developing a nocturnal sleep cycle. |
| 07:56:50 | Widget | Final in just three hours! |
| 07:57:03 | Rev_Ef | Har har. |
| 07:57:11 | vogon_jeltz | I sleep when late-night television starts getting boring and wake up when daytime television starts getting interesting. |
| 07:57:14 | Rev_Ef | What over? |
| 07:57:36 | Rev_Ef | Depressing, but hey. |
| 07:57:49 | Widget | Hm? |
| 07:57:50 | vogon_jeltz | yeah. |
| 07:57:52 | Widget | Not tennis. |
| 07:57:54 | Widget | Football. |
| 07:57:56 | captain_proton | Rev_Ef: nothing wrong with being noctournal |
| 07:58:33 | vogon_jeltz | smells a Time Cube rant coming on. |
| 07:59:53 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: that's your cue, assbrain. |
| 08:00:06 | Rev_Ef | I don't see exactly what the Cubic wisdom IS. define cubic theory for me real quick, I'm not really getting much from the site. |
| 08:00:15 | captain_proton | lesee |
| 08:00:39 | captain_proton | when the earth rotates, there are 4 days going on (not infinite, because people who say so are educated stupid) |
| 08:01:17 | captain_proton | for some unknown but vitally important reason, those 4 days form a cube |
| 08:01:49 | captain_proton | and from any vantage point, you can only see 1/4 of reality |
| 08:02:11 | Rev_Ef | OK, why NOT infinite? aside from the eventual fate of falling into the sun? |
| 08:02:32 | Rev_Ef | You can see far less than 1/4 of reality. |
| 08:02:48 | captain_proton | because it trivializes existance |
| 08:02:56 | Rev_Ef | So? |
| 08:03:09 | captain_proton | and that would make gene ray grumpy |
| 08:03:15 | Rev_Ef | Infinity trivializes existience. What makes that invalid? |
| 08:03:54 | Rev_Ef | And how exactly do 4 days form a cube? |
| 08:04:27 | Rev_Ef | Being that they are units of time determined by the rotation of a single planet. |
| 08:05:06 | Rev_Ef | A planet could have one side facing the sun all the time, one side never. |
| 08:05:23 | Rev_Ef | Does cubic theory extend to such places? |
| 08:05:27 | captain_proton | by bisecting the earth twice, delineating the days, then circumscribing the sphere using those guides, you get a cube |
| 08:06:13 | Rev_Ef | I'm having trouble visualising this. A cube around the earth? around the sun? |
| 08:06:32 | Rev_Ef | What conclusion is drawn from the existience of this cube? |
| 08:07:20 | Rev_Ef | Also, what's with all the totalitarianism apparently imposed by this fellow? |
| 08:07:54 | Rev_Ef | Why does he type so damn huge? |
| 08:08:11 | captain_proton | cube around the earth |
| 08:08:21 | captain_proton | top and bottom don't really matter |
| 08:08:34 | Rev_Ef | Why not? |
| 08:08:38 | captain_proton | each side projects into a day |
| 08:08:46 | captain_proton | because it isn't convenient |
| 08:09:04 | captain_proton | if the top and bottom -did- matter, it would muck up the theory |
| 08:09:17 | Rev_Ef | Ah, OK, continue. |
| 08:09:57 | captain_proton | and the conclusion we get from this cube is because any one person can only see a quarter of reality, all must be deluded as to their own existance |
| 08:10:16 | captain_proton | however, if one is cubic, they realize the true nature of the world, and thus get a warm fuzzy feeling |
| 08:10:26 | Rev_Ef | ooo! and what is the Curse of the TimeCube? |
| 08:10:40 | captain_proton | where? |
| 08:10:46 | Rev_Ef | On the site. |
| 08:10:58 | captain_proton | lemme take a look |
| 08:11:17 | Rev_Ef | He says those who do not think Cubically will be doomed to the curse, as all previous civilizations have been. |
| 08:11:35 | captain_proton | ah |
| 08:11:51 | captain_proton | basically doomed to ignorance |
| 08:12:04 | captain_proton | another YOU ARE EDUCATED STUPID kind of thing |
| 08:12:39 | Rev_Ef | hmmm. |
| 08:13:44 | Rev_Ef | So wait, how do you see all quarters of reality then? |
| 08:14:07 | Rev_Ef | get off the planet? |
| 08:14:22 | Rev_Ef | even then there's stuff in the way of most other stuff. |
| 08:15:16 | captain_proton | by realizing the true nature of time |
| 08:16:48 | captain_proton | it cannot be said, because "Languages have deadly virus that will destroy the educated" |
| 08:17:01 | Rev_Ef | Oh, the same time cycle stuff? does he really think that other people think that time is a true line? |
| 08:17:11 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 08:17:18 | Rev_Ef | silly cube man! |
| 08:21:09 | Rev_Ef | in any case. |
| 08:21:39 | Rev_Ef | So understanding TimeCube must be done gnostically, without use of words? |
| 08:21:46 | captain_proton | exactly |
| 08:22:40 | Rev_Ef | So why is he using words? Can he use symbols at all? gestures? mathematics? |
| 08:22:43 | captain_proton | the web site is a guide, but the truth is something beyond it |
| 08:22:50 | captain_proton | gestures and mathematics are language |
| 08:23:23 | Rev_Ef | It seems like he is trying to poison his own concept through the use of words. |
| 08:23:56 | captain_proton | words are the only way he can communicate even the tiniest portions of the cube |
| 08:24:04 | Rev_Ef | He should just feed people a lot of psychotropic drugs and hope that a fair percentage get it. |
| 08:24:32 | captain_proton | hmm - not a bad idea |
| 08:25:01 | Rev_Ef | See? He needs to learn more about the buisness of cult building. |
| 08:25:14 | Rev_Ef | urg, business. |
| 08:25:36 | Rev_Ef | So wait. |
| 08:25:55 | Rev_Ef | He prefers that people know about all four corners, yes? |
| 08:27:01 | captain_proton | yes |
| 08:27:32 | Rev_Ef | So why does he promote the separation of the people of each corner? |
| 08:28:22 | captain_proton | because all of those people are the dumb, educated people |
| 08:29:15 | Rev_Ef | OK, that was weak, you need to get your cosmology in order. |
| 08:30:36 | captain_proton | hard to argue religion and watch porn at the same time |
| 08:30:51 | Rev_Ef | Not if you have the right religion! |
| 08:31:15 | captain_proton | true |
| 08:31:26 | Rev_Ef | Become a Subgenius! Sometimes it's INDISTINGUISHABLE from porn! |
| 08:32:20 | Rev_Ef | And I imagine the T-shirts are much cooler. |
| 08:32:37 | captain_proton | i very much doubt that |
| 08:32:47 | captain_proton | i get a watch from cubism |
| 08:33:01 | Rev_Ef | pish tosh! |
| 08:33:20 | Rev_Ef | I have Holy Radioactive Boxr Shorts. |
| 08:33:40 | vogon_jeltz | if you join the Church of the SubGenius, you get eternal salvation and a beforelifetime of service from the sex goddesses on the pleasure saucers from Planet X! |
| 08:33:50 | Rev_Ef | And a certificate that exonerates me from all blame ever! |
| 08:34:06 | vogon_jeltz | that one's just icing on the cake. |
| 08:34:17 | Rev_Ef | Yeah, but it's a nice touch I think. |
| 08:34:48 | vogon_jeltz | yeah. |
| 08:35:14 | Rev_Ef | And there are actual women who may have sex with you. Chances are you're more attractive than Subgenius men. |
| 08:36:21 | vogon_jeltz | and you get half-price admission to X-Day, which is the coolest holiday ever, next to Festivus and the Feast of Maximum Occupancy. |
| 08:36:41 | Rev_Ef | And the frop flows like maple syrup, and You dance in an X-static fury to mad music and eat all you desire and find Slack. |
| 08:38:29 | Rev_Ef | So join up immediately! Your head will hurt about as bad as with TimeCube, but in this case it'll be because you're growing new subsensory organs. |
| 08:38:48 | captain_proton | subsensory? |
| 08:38:54 | vogon_jeltz | all it costs is 30 bucks and your "sanity." |
| 08:39:32 | Rev_Ef | No soul trade involved, most people have already given theirs away and never noticed. |
| 08:40:13 | vogon_jeltz | and you become an ordained minister, so you get your own clench and, if you get a congregation, your choice of the hot parishioners. |
| 08:40:19 | Rev_Ef | But no worries, in time, you will be SNORTING souls. |
| 08:42:09 | vogon_jeltz | your donations aren't tax-deductible, but don't worry. in 1998, you'll be leaving this crap factory of a planet for good. |
| 08:42:56 | captain_proton | if you wouldn't mind, could you continue your evangelerizing elsewhere? i've got bzflag hacking to do <glares at vogon_jeltz> |
| 08:43:05 | vogon_jeltz | haha. |
| 08:43:25 | vogon_jeltz | you're still hacking BZFlag? 1.8 will never be out. |
| 08:43:47 | captain_proton | well whose fault will that be? |
| 08:44:00 | vogon_jeltz | I blame it on the Conspiracy. |
| 08:44:00 | captain_proton | oh! we may get the chance to sue lindows |
| 08:45:53 | captain_proton | http://www.lindows.com/lindows_products_details.php?id=744&pg=description |
| 08:46:20 | Rev_Ef | Meh. If you do not accept, then I will fuck with you no further. To TRULY be saved, you must fuck with yourself. |
| 08:46:50 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: ahahahaha. |
| 08:46:54 | Rev_Ef | Remember the website eternally, and hold it in your heart, or pineal gland if you run out of room. |
| 08:47:08 | captain_proton | i think i'll pass today |
| 08:47:34 | vogon_jeltz | I had to get my pineal gland remodeled. it was full of remaindered furniture. |
| 08:47:47 | Rev_Ef | You are the meekest Pink. gad bay. |
| 08:47:57 | vogon_jeltz | later, cappy. |
| 10:32:02 | Widget | hihihi, FantaZee. |
| 10:32:29 | Widget | FantaZee: Ready for the final, are you? |
| 10:33:43 | FantaZee | hi |
| 10:33:45 | FantaZee | wait |
| 10:37:53 | FantaZee | hi widget |
| 10:38:01 | FantaZee | i'm ready :) |
| 11:44:37 | Widget | Interesting so far. |
| 11:45:29 | Chestal | in the last few minutes I had the impression that the German team was narcotized, they didn't move |
| 11:51:04 | Widget | Brazil have wasted many opportunities. |
| 12:26:42 | Widget | Sigh. |
| 12:33:23 | Widget | Oh, well. |
| 12:47:59 | Widget | It's over. |
| 12:51:13 | Chestal | *sob* |
| 13:13:10 | Widget | Nooooooooooooo!!!!!! |
| 13:14:10 | Chestal | Noooooooooooooo? |
| 13:15:18 | Widget | Sigh. |
| 13:15:21 | Widget | It must be so painful. |
| 13:18:59 | Chestal | oh well, I'm over it :-) |
| 13:42:53 | Chestal | hi akira |
| 13:43:11 | akira_ | moin |
| 13:43:13 | akira_ | bin in ui |
| 13:43:15 | akira_ | uni |
| 13:43:20 | akira_ | wer da zum spielen ? |
| 13:43:28 | Chestal | ich bin dafuer zuhause |
| 13:43:36 | Chestal | tanman kam gestern erst abends wieder, aber da warst du leider weg |
| 13:44:01 | akira_ | ok |
| 13:44:43 | Chestal | heut abend bist du aber nicht verfügbar, oder? |
| 13:44:49 | akira_ | mals ehen |
| 13:47:41 | Chestal | ich weiss auch noch nicht, mit etwas Glück ergibt sich was |
| 13:47:48 | Chestal | kannst du eigentlich nur an der Uni sinnvoll spielen? |
| 13:47:51 | akira_ | ja |
| 13:51:35 | Chestal | ich werd mich mal mit Buch n die Sonen setzen erstmal |
| 13:52:19 | akira_ | mach da |
| 13:52:20 | akira_ | s |
| 15:06:20 | Izto | Hi |
| 15:06:41 | Chestal | hi Izto |
| 15:07:36 | Izto | Has anyone seen the consumption team members? (Dinah, Condon, Mortimer) around? |
| 15:07:57 | Chestal | no, not for several days |
| 15:08:20 | Izto | I thought so. I guess I'll just have to start a new team.. :-/ |
| 15:08:42 | Chestal | hmm, maybe they're jsut busy? or is it something else? |
| 15:14:47 | strayer | hi |
| 15:18:11 | Chestal | hi strayer |
| 15:21:36 | strayer | any matches orginized yet? |
| 15:21:40 | jpablo | morning. |
| 15:21:46 | Chestal | I think later today, not sure |
| 15:21:57 | strayer | oki |
| 15:22:04 | Chestal | hi jpablo |
| 15:22:15 | Chestal | didn't guglmty play yesterday? |
| 15:22:43 | jpablo | nope. |
| 15:23:32 | jpablo | have to take a plane in about 5hours. |
| 15:23:37 | jpablo | who win the world cup ? |
| 15:23:56 | strayer | U mean soccer? |
| 15:24:37 | jpablo | yeah |
| 15:24:53 | strayer | 2:0 for Brasil |
| 15:25:14 | jpablo | oh |
| 15:25:25 | strayer | I thought this too :) |
| 15:34:55 | akira_ | :( |
| 15:37:39 | akira_ | hello MrApathyCream |
| 15:37:44 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 15:37:55 | akira_ | do you use win32-cvs to checkout your stuff ? |
| 15:38:45 | MrApathyCream | yes www.cvshome.org |
| 15:38:53 | akira_ | i know where this it |
| 15:39:02 | akira_ | i just cant use it here |
| 15:39:15 | MrApathyCream | why |
| 15:39:28 | akira_ | i was talking with chestal once about the fact that the .dsw should perhaps marked to be binary ... |
| 15:39:49 | akira_ | the <cr>s were lost, if you cvs co it under unix and transfer it to win32 |
| 15:40:03 | akira_ | i have no rights to install stuff on this pc here ... |
| 15:41:09 | strayer | has anyone a bzflag-version for Win compiled with the radar-patch?....I'm lazy... |
| 15:41:32 | akira_ | which radar patch ? |
| 15:41:37 | akira_ | mr creams or my ? |
| 15:41:49 | strayer | mom... |
| 15:42:30 | akira_ | my patch can ... turn on/off colored shots, change color/opacity of radar and controlpanel and change the size of controlpanel/score font |
| 15:43:01 | akira_ | and wont change any constructors :) -> mrapathycream :) |
| 15:44:07 | strayer | sry...my phone... |
| 15:44:25 | strayer | ...Urs sounds good |
| 15:45:04 | akira_ | MrApathyCream: i read a post from you, that any one could change radar color before my patch .. how ? |
| 15:45:04 | MrApathyCream | mines @ www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html choose 1.7f7 |
| 15:45:16 | MrApathyCream | just edit the bzc file |
| 15:45:21 | MrApathyCream | redRadar 1 1 1 |
| 15:45:24 | MrApathyCream | greenRadar 1 1 1 |
| 15:45:25 | MrApathyCream | etc |
| 15:45:41 | akira_ | .. why these ... silly option names ? |
| 15:45:45 | MrApathyCream | dunno |
| 15:45:53 | akira_ | thats really stupid |
| 15:46:19 | strayer | doesnt matter to me which....everything is better than now |
| 15:46:36 | akira_ | my patch has menu options :) |
| 15:46:39 | Chestal | what's so silly about the names? |
| 15:46:48 | MrApathyCream | stumbles off |
| 15:46:58 | Chestal | but they do something completely different anyway |
| 15:47:24 | Chestal | hmm, I need an easy way to exchange red+green |
| 15:47:25 | iLLf8d | sheesh I op you and you leave heh =P |
| 15:47:37 | Chestal | so I can always play as red, even when I am green :-) |
| 15:47:37 | akira_ | Chestal: if i want to change the color of the radar ... i would do it in a kind of : radarcolor "r g b" |
| 15:47:46 | strayer | hm...but I can see the radarshots better ...right? |
| 15:47:47 | akira_ | and not redRadar 1 1 1 |
| 15:47:48 | Chestal | might be a little confusing, though |
| 15:47:58 | akira_ | for what is 1 1 1 ??? |
| 15:48:05 | akira_ | red redder reddest ? |
| 15:48:05 | Chestal | akira: no, redRadar 1 0 0 sets the colour for the red tanks on radar |
| 15:48:23 | akira_ | still stupid name |
| 15:48:52 | Chestal | hmm, what would be a better name? ColorForRedTaksOnRadar? :-) |
| 15:48:57 | akira_ | yep |
| 15:49:10 | akira_ | its long but you can read what it would do |
| 15:49:23 | akira_ | and dont argue that it takes longer to parse it |
| 15:49:39 | strayer | hehe.... |
| 15:50:09 | strayer | akira...do U have a version for me right now? |
| 15:50:19 | akira_ | a win32 binary ? |
| 15:50:22 | akira_ | of course |
| 15:50:47 | jpablo | goes to pack his computer. |
| 15:50:50 | strayer | binary....compiled.....ready for using...please |
| 15:50:57 | jpablo | bye |
| 15:51:01 | paul | akira_: you have patch? i'll test it out on irix and linux |
| 15:51:10 | strayer | bye jpablo |
| 15:51:27 | akira_ | paul: gimme a second and you will get the new one |
| 15:52:10 | akira_ | strayer: www.wirrehomepage.de -> files -> bzflag |
| 15:52:15 | akira_ | the zip |
| 15:52:54 | akira_ | paul: i just test the patch.diff again and then i will put it on the site there and on the sf.net patch site |
| 15:54:01 | akira_ | ok, its there |
| 15:54:10 | paul | cool |
| 15:54:30 | paul | Chestal: how familiar are you with the source? |
| 15:54:31 | strayer | akira...thx...seems to be a bit small |
| 15:54:40 | akira_ | what ? |
| 15:54:54 | akira_ | its a zipped exe |
| 15:54:58 | akira_ | not the whole package |
| 15:55:00 | Chestal | paul: depends, very familiar with parts of it, not so familiar with other parts |
| 15:55:06 | paul | networking? |
| 15:55:08 | akira_ | just put the exe in your bzflag dir |
| 15:55:16 | Chestal | paul: quite familiar |
| 15:55:25 | paul | you did the udp patch didnt you? |
| 15:55:39 | paul | (ie the original udp support) |
| 15:55:40 | Chestal | no, that was Onkel Frank BZFrank) |
| 15:55:52 | paul | ah.. got my franks messed up. |
| 15:56:19 | paul | ok.. i might have some questions for you at some stage. i'm trying to get my head round the bz network code. |
| 15:56:23 | strayer | akira.....yes i saw...thx...anything about to know? |
| 15:56:48 | Chestal | paul: it will be changed for 1.8, probably UDP-only |
| 15:56:55 | paul | Chestal: about time. |
| 15:57:02 | akira_ | if you want to change the color for radar and controlpanel, use editor and the config file .. for the opacity level just go to the option menu |
| 15:57:03 | paul | akira_: is that patch against current cvs? |
| 15:57:25 | akira_ | the rest is also in the option menu and you will see it if you see it :) |
| 15:57:32 | akira_ | paul: yep, against v1_7 |
| 15:57:48 | strayer | akira...hehe...it test it now... |
| 15:57:48 | paul | ok.. |
| 16:00:35 | strayer | akira...its fantastic > thank you veeery much! |
| 16:00:45 | akira_ | thank you very much |
| 16:01:29 | | teA_: sorry... |
| 16:01:29 | teA_ | ibot seen |
| 16:01:37 | | skipp was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 1 hours, 39 minutes and 40 seconds ago, saying: for some reason everyone wants to play the ults [Sat Jun 29 15:21:57 2002] |
| 16:01:38 | teA_ | ibot seen skipp |
| 16:01:43 | | Quol was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 15 hours, 25 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: all [Sat Jun 29 01:35:56 2002] |
| 16:01:43 | teA_ | ibot seen Quol |
| 16:02:09 | | I haven't seen 'nicole', teA_ |
| 16:02:09 | teA_ | ibot seen nicole |
| 16:02:13 | teA_ | lol |
| 16:04:48 | akira_ | paul: patch is now on sf.net too |
| 16:06:03 | paul | got it |
| 16:06:34 | akira_ | does it compile ? |
| 16:07:34 | paul | well it applies. :) (i've only just finished cvs up' from HEAD to v1_7) |
| 16:07:42 | akira_ | hehe |
| 16:09:26 | paul | compiling |
| 16:09:58 | akira_ | it will work under linux .. i test it at home :) |
| 16:12:19 | paul | /usr/bin/g++ -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_SOURCE -DHALF_RATE_AUDIO -DXF86VIDMODE_EXT -DXIJOYSTICK -I/usr/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -W -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -DVERSION=10705007 -DROBOT -DINSTALL_DATA_DIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/bzflag/data\" -I../../include -DNDEBUG -O2 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -fnonnull-objects -fexpensive-optimizations -c HUDRenderer.cxx |
| 16:12:19 | paul | cc1plus: warning: -fnonnull-objects is no longer supported |
| 16:12:19 | paul | HUDRenderer.cxx: In method `void HUDRenderer::setMinorFontSize (int, |
| 16:12:19 | paul | int)': |
| 16:12:21 | paul | HUDRenderer.cxx:341: `getSceneRenderer' undeclared (first use this |
| 16:12:23 | paul | function) |
| 16:12:25 | paul | HUDRenderer.cxx:341: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 16:12:33 | akira_ | har |
| 16:12:36 | paul | :) |
| 16:12:36 | akira_ | forget one |
| 16:12:54 | akira_ | please add a #include "playing.h" at top ... |
| 16:12:59 | akira_ | i hate win32 |
| 16:13:29 | strayer | akira...pff....and R U gummi? |
| 16:13:34 | akira_ | yep |
| 16:13:41 | strayer | nice page :) |
| 16:13:56 | akira_ | thx again |
| 16:14:12 | Chestal | akira: hmm, tankmann is here |
| 16:14:18 | akira_ | groovy |
| 16:14:21 | akira_ | wolle wir = |
| 16:14:23 | akira_ | wolle wir ? |
| 16:14:25 | tan | wir schon |
| 16:14:33 | Chestal | wenn wir nen Gegner finden, würd ich zur Uni fahren |
| 16:14:42 | tan | ah, du bist zu haus |
| 16:14:46 | akira_ | is there a opponent out there for moles ? |
| 16:16:41 | akira_ | i hate this sound of silence |
| 16:17:01 | akira_ | paul: did that solve the problem ? |
| 16:17:39 | Chestal | I think that several teams want to show up tonight |
| 16:17:43 | Chestal | but I don't know when |
| 16:18:02 | paul | akira_: i stupidly did a make clean.. so still doing a full compile. |
| 16:18:08 | akira_ | grins |
| 16:19:35 | akira_ | Chestal: kannste bitte mal die beiden aeltesten patches loeschen ? |
| 16:19:43 | Chestal | moment |
| 16:19:53 | akira_ | dank dir |
| 16:20:47 | Chestal | ich nehm mal an, dass ganz oben der Neueste ist |
| 16:21:03 | akira_ | nimmste richtig |
| 16:21:42 | Chestal | also ich werd jetzt wohl mal was essen, vielleicht zeichnet sich dann ja auch ab, ob ein gegner auftaucht |
| 16:21:56 | akira_ | hoffentlich |
| 16:22:36 | Chestal | bei Bedarf brauch ch dann so 20 Minuten von hier bis ins Buero |
| 16:23:06 | Chestal | auch wenn mein Benzin knapp ist, muesste aber noch reichen |
| 16:26:31 | strayer | was fuer ne einstellung |
| 16:27:02 | akira_ | er is ein mole |
| 16:27:05 | akira_ | die sind so |
| 16:27:06 | akira_ | :) |
| 16:27:40 | strayer | nicht schlecht....Motto: kurz vorm Verrecken, aber in Spiel ist noch drin... |
| 16:27:50 | strayer | in=ein |
| 16:28:49 | akira_ | hallo jh |
| 16:28:55 | ^john | hi |
| 16:29:08 | strayer | bye... |
| 16:29:15 | ^john | we maybe playing tonight |
| 16:29:17 | ^john | maybe |
| 16:29:26 | paul | akira_: that seems to have worked. |
| 16:29:39 | akira_ | thought so |
| 16:29:41 | akira_ | try it out now |
| 16:29:45 | ^john | if enough ppl show up |
| 16:31:05 | ^john | hey widget |
| 16:31:10 | Widget | Hi, ^john. |
| 16:31:16 | akira_ | moin Widget |
| 16:31:17 | Widget | I'm so tired... I decided not to sleep. |
| 16:31:20 | Widget | hihihi, akira_. |
| 16:31:31 | ^john | think ppl will show up tonight? |
| 16:31:41 | Widget | (Final was 2100-0100 here.) |
| 16:31:50 | Widget | Maybe. |
| 16:32:05 | ^john | what's the time in there |
| 16:32:09 | ^john | new zealand |
| 16:32:16 | Widget | 4:40 now. |
| 16:32:23 | Widget | GMT+12 |
| 16:32:42 | ^john | 4.40 night? |
| 16:32:45 | ^john | holy shit |
| 16:32:47 | Widget | Yah. |
| 16:33:00 | ^john | well u should sleep |
| 16:33:26 | Widget | I'll try to make it by 6. |
| 16:33:33 | ^john | okay |
| 16:38:33 | ^john | be back later |
| 16:38:40 | akira_ | cu |
| 16:38:47 | ^john | around 18.30utc |
| 16:41:22 | akira_ | is mrapathy gone ? |
| 16:41:52 | funkyshit | hi |
| 16:42:03 | tan | hi |
| 16:42:07 | akira_ | tach |
| 16:42:09 | Chestal | hmm, nothing new here? |
| 16:42:14 | akira_ | nope |
| 16:42:23 | Chestal | I guess it's still too early for most people |
| 16:42:36 | akira_ | is there a brave team which wants fight moles ? |
| 16:43:00 | Chestal | yes, the poor Moles who haven't won a math for 4 weeks now |
| 16:43:07 | paul | anyone know about the proposed 1.8 karma system? |
| 16:43:07 | Chestal | a match, even |
| 16:43:28 | Chestal | paul: well, some ideas are outlined in doc/karma.txt in 1.8 CVS tree |
| 16:43:37 | Chestal | paul: nothing has been implemented yet |
| 16:43:43 | paul | ok... |
| 16:44:07 | paul | well, i reckon the authentication system ought to be GSSAPI. |
| 16:44:13 | paul | no point reinventing wheel. |
| 16:44:23 | Chestal | what's GSSAPI? |
| 16:44:45 | funkyshit | what is the range of ports that uses bzflag server ? |
| 16:44:51 | funkyshit | UDP ports |
| 16:45:10 | Chestal | it will use the port you specify |
| 16:45:25 | funkyshit | TCP port yes |
| 16:45:33 | paul | Generic Simple Security API - most commonly used as a front-end API to kerberos V5. |
| 16:45:33 | akira_ | the moles are rosty now .. anyone could beat them |
| 16:45:37 | funkyshit | but if the client uses the UDP connection.. |
| 16:46:02 | Chestal | funkyshit: I'm nt sure, I think it wil use the same port, at least with current bzfs version |
| 16:46:30 | paul | Chestal: i think i've mentioned use of K5 and 'strong handles' a good few times on the eazyboard and list. |
| 16:46:35 | paul | i'd love to see it. |
| 16:47:06 | paul | you cant stop cheating, but at least you provide a framework where people can be 'known'. |
| 16:47:22 | paul | s/you provide/you can provide/ |
| 16:47:29 | Chestal | well, yes, authentication is needed |
| 16:47:38 | paul | and people are less likely to cheat if everyone knows who you are. |
| 16:47:52 | Chestal | no details about the implementation have been worked on, maybe GSSAPI is good, I don't know |
| 16:47:57 | paul | (cheaters are not going to use their normal handle) |
| 16:48:06 | paul | i've used it, it's nice. |
| 16:48:41 | akira_ | is there anything on 4 at the moment ? |
| 16:48:41 | Chestal | the authentication process itself should be fairly simply |
| 16:48:53 | paul | yes. |
| 16:49:16 | paul | a password at most. |
| 16:49:16 | akira_ | or better |
| 16:49:25 | akira_ | is there any mapping on ^ ? |
| 16:49:29 | paul | akira_: ?? |
| 16:49:43 | akira_ | i would like to hide the controlpanel the way q3 did it |
| 16:50:10 | paul | why would you want to do that? |
| 16:50:15 | akira_ | why not ? |
| 16:50:21 | paul | at least, the radar is essential to play bz. |
| 16:50:24 | Chestal | I'm off to watch Star Trek |
| 16:50:26 | Chestal | later |
| 16:50:28 | paul | enjoy |
| 16:50:30 | tan | later |
| 16:50:42 | akira_ | paul .. i dont mean the radar |
| 16:50:48 | akira_ | only the messagepanel |
| 16:50:48 | paul | ah. :) |
| 16:50:57 | akira_ | which is called control panel in the sources :) |
| 16:51:16 | paul | i'm not an opengl/gui person - i just dont look at that stuff. :) |
| 16:51:39 | akira_ | but playing bzflag .. yeah yeah ... |
| 16:51:42 | akira_ | tss |
| 16:51:59 | paul | speaking of which, anyone on for a game? |
| 16:52:10 | akira_ | me |
| 16:52:14 | paul | where? |
| 16:52:26 | akira_ | ductai of course |
| 16:52:33 | akira_ | tan: spielste mit ? |
| 16:52:44 | tan | oops |
| 16:52:45 | paul | okkily dokkily.. hang on. be there in a sec. |
| 16:52:56 | tan | ähm, is schlecht, ich muss gleich essen... |
| 16:53:05 | paul | is away: to play bz on ducati |
| 17:03:16 | Ruudi | hi |
| 17:08:52 | Chestal | hi, Skipp, Ruudi, Quol |
| 17:08:59 | Skipp | hi |
| 17:09:01 | Chestal | will any team be complete soon? |
| 17:09:04 | Skipp | talking with quol |
| 17:09:07 | Quol | Hey Chestal |
| 17:09:23 | Quol | ULT is here - TeA - you are listening right?? |
| 17:09:27 | Chestal | if there s a chance for the Moles to find an opponent, I would drive to th euniversity |
| 17:09:42 | Skipp | we will play |
| 17:09:57 | Ruudi | hmm interesting should i pay for now outlook 2002 or should it be free download for win2000 :)? |
| 17:10:06 | Chestal | tankmann is gone fo rnow, he'll be back at about 18:00 UTC |
| 17:10:19 | Ruudi | hopes he won't get kicked |
| 17:11:03 | Chestal | Ruudi: are you in the frog or in te bz team? |
| 17:11:20 | Skipp | can't get tea/tree to talk |
| 17:11:32 | Ruudi | bz |
| 17:12:09 | Ruudi | just like that... |
| 17:12:25 | Chestal | not a bad team |
| 17:12:47 | Ruudi | i should look who's in there i know jh is there and sniper |
| 17:13:01 | Chestal | and widget and zig |
| 17:13:24 | Chestal | Zig is a very strong 1 on 1 player |
| 17:13:55 | Chestal | these days he lags a little too much n ducati |
| 17:14:01 | Ruudi | ah i see |
| 17:14:07 | Ruudi | i hope we get a fight soon |
| 17:22:07 | Ruudi | maybe today we got someone to fight if today is sunday? |
| 17:22:40 | Skipp | ult will be ready once we find tea/tree |
| 17:23:10 | Ruudi | i see we in same team skipp :)? sry don't know all members jet |
| 17:23:42 | Ruudi | anyway someone might know does those internet speedup programs realy speed up connection in some ways? |
| 17:24:04 | akira_ | nope |
| 17:24:09 | akira_ | they compress the data |
| 17:24:15 | Ruudi | ah i see |
| 17:24:20 | Ruudi | no point then |
| 17:25:16 | Ruudi | i must be careful what i install into windows..if i install and uninstall lot of things windows goes slower at the time |
| 17:25:43 | iLLf8d | night all |
| 17:25:46 | Ruudi | i should go to mac if i'm ritch :P |
| 17:25:55 | Ruudi | hmm night sun is up still :) |
| 17:26:16 | Skipp | what time is it where u r |
| 17:26:25 | Ruudi | 8:30 |
| 17:26:29 | Skipp | aahh |
| 17:26:32 | Skipp | am |
| 17:26:34 | Skipp | or pm |
| 17:26:52 | Ruudi | ok must reboot just got explorer 6.0 uuh i hate those reboots |
| 17:27:08 | Ruudi | seems like its 8:30 at night pm then |
| 17:27:16 | Ruudi | i never know those am pm 20:30 |
| 17:27:22 | Ruudi | is better |
| 17:27:51 | Ruudi | ok reboot now i'll be back soon |
| 17:34:23 | paul | is back (gone 00:41:18) |
| 17:43:56 | Chestal | re |
| 17:44:00 | akira_ | kontra |
| 17:44:05 | Chestal | bock |
| 17:44:27 | akira_ | zahl |
| 17:48:30 | Ruudi | bz lan parti would be cool |
| 17:48:47 | Ruudi | nhi |
| 17:48:49 | Ruudi | nhi |
| 17:48:50 | Ruudi | hi |
| 17:48:56 | Ruudi | dam n comes before text! |
| 17:49:15 | Skipp | tea u there |
| 17:49:16 | Ruudi | bz style typing is so mutch in blood |
| 17:49:22 | teA_ | hello |
| 17:49:29 | Skipp | hey |
| 17:49:33 | Skipp | ready to play |
| 17:49:34 | teA_ | ok whats up |
| 17:49:38 | ^john | hey ruudi |
| 17:49:48 | Skipp | i think we are going to start soon |
| 17:49:52 | Skipp | quol is here |
| 17:50:05 | teA_ | so whats going on |
| 17:50:14 | Skipp | we can play john's team or the moles if they are ready |
| 17:50:17 | Quol | yup - I am here |
| 17:50:22 | akira_ | we are |
| 17:50:22 | Ruudi | john as jh? |
| 17:50:25 | ^john | yes |
| 17:50:31 | teA_ | [ult] vs. bz ! |
| 17:50:32 | ^john | is widget here? |
| 17:50:41 | Ruudi | maybe we will get team together to play too |
| 17:50:45 | Ruudi | dunno about widget |
| 17:50:49 | Skipp | yeah |
| 17:50:51 | akira_ | hey |
| 17:50:52 | akira_ | first moles |
| 17:50:53 | ^john | he was here earlier |
| 17:51:01 | akira_ | we played not for a month or more |
| 17:51:07 | Skipp | so who is playing who |
| 17:51:11 | Ruudi | hmm hes idle like over an hour |
| 17:51:16 | ^john | shit |
| 17:51:24 | ^john | well it was 19utc |
| 17:51:29 | ^john | it's only 18 |
| 17:51:32 | Ruudi | i see |
| 17:51:34 | Skipp | talk to him personally |
| 17:51:41 | Ruudi | well i got time to go and get a beer then i guess |
| 17:51:46 | teA_ | WE will play now ok |
| 17:51:49 | Skipp | maybe he is asleep |
| 17:51:52 | ^john | lol |
| 17:51:56 | ^john | maybe |
| 17:52:04 | Ruudi | beer allways makes good in bz |
| 17:52:10 | Ruudi | till there is not too mutch beer |
| 17:52:15 | ^john | but not too much |
| 17:52:20 | Ruudi | yeah :) |
| 17:52:27 | teA_ | So |
| 17:52:33 | ^john | i might have one myself |
| 17:52:40 | teA_ | Play now on ducati:59000 |
| 17:52:42 | Ruudi | dam i like that bz community i just told befor that a lan party in open air would be cool |
| 17:52:46 | teA_ | we will take red ! |
| 17:52:58 | Quol | if ULT is going to play agaisnt BZ - then by all means - let BZ get good and beered up so taht there reflexes are all slow :) |
| 17:53:11 | Skipp | lol:):) |
| 17:53:11 | teA_ | lol |
| 17:53:14 | Ruudi | :) |
| 17:53:16 | teA_ | LOL |
| 17:53:29 | teA_ | Quol : trillian ! LOL laughfing sounds |
| 17:53:32 | paul | teA_: what's on 59000 |
| 17:53:37 | ^john | hhehe |
| 17:53:38 | Ruudi | i wanna be red too i never see red shots couse all houses are red in my 600x480 res |
| 17:53:56 | Ruudi | anyway there is time till we get some game |
| 17:53:58 | teA_ | i never see green shots |
| 17:53:59 | Quol | We called it first :) |
| 17:54:05 | teA_ | :) |
| 17:54:21 | Quol | i find it really hard to see red shots with the new transarent radar thingy.... |
| 17:54:21 | teA_ | So c ya on ducati:59000 !!!!! worming up round |
| 17:54:25 | Skipp | yeah:) |
| 17:54:28 | Ruudi | for one match i will borrow a gforce2 and then you will see ruudi ! |
| 17:54:34 | ^john | hehe |
| 17:54:39 | Skipp | so ducati |
| 17:54:52 | ^john | we have only 2 at the moment |
| 17:54:53 | Ruudi | i think i'll go into some warmup too |
| 17:54:56 | Quol | ducati port 59000 then... |
| 17:55:04 | Skipp | c u guys there |
| 17:55:20 | Ruudi | wait who plays who? |
| 17:55:27 | ^john | helloooo we have 2 players |
| 17:55:31 | teA_ | grml |
| 17:55:37 | teA_ | weres your 3rd ! |
| 17:55:45 | Ruudi | but some warmup would be nice |
| 17:55:46 | ^john | sleeping |
| 17:55:54 | ^john | ok cu there |
| 17:55:55 | Ruudi | let's go for 10 minute warmup? |
| 18:07:21 | akira_ | who wants to fight moles ? |
| 18:08:52 | TLZAjax | anyone here? |
| 18:09:49 | Chestal | damn X server |
| 18:10:13 | TLZAjax | what is that ches? |
| 18:10:27 | Chestal | TLZAjax: X11, responsible for GUI on Unix |
| 18:10:37 | TLZAjax | i see... |
| 18:10:41 | Chestal | ok, any complete team here? |
| 18:10:49 | TLZAjax | ult is on 59000 |
| 18:10:52 | akira_ | we are :) |
| 18:10:59 | akira_ | are they waiting for someone ? |
| 18:11:01 | TLZAjax | w339 is playing ducati |
| 18:11:12 | akira_ | or could we fight them ? |
| 18:11:13 | TLZAjax | bz team they say... |
| 18:11:26 | ^john | widget? |
| 18:11:36 | TLZAjax | never heared of bz-team |
| 18:11:40 | ^john | lol |
| 18:11:43 | Chestal | hmm |
| 18:11:50 | ^john | damned |
| 18:11:53 | ^john | where is he |
| 18:12:03 | TLZAjax | who is he? |
| 18:12:09 | TLZAjax | widget? |
| 18:12:09 | ^john | widget |
| 18:12:13 | TLZAjax | ok lol |
| 18:12:32 | TLZAjax | i will check my mailbox to see if fanta sent msg |
| 18:12:36 | ^john | chestal could u check ducati |
| 18:12:39 | akira_ | so .. which OTHER team is here and ready ?? |
| 18:12:45 | ^john | if sniper50 is there? |
| 18:12:54 | TLZAjax | gimme 5 |
| 18:12:54 | ^john | it seems to be full |
| 18:13:14 | akira_ | jh .. against you and friends .. ? |
| 18:13:20 | akira_ | would be cool |
| 18:14:22 | Pinguin | OK ... i know that we have lost yesterday 10:1 ... but if anyone wants a match ... we are complete ... |
| 18:14:29 | akira_ | we want |
| 18:14:31 | Chestal | Moles should be comppete very soon |
| 18:14:52 | Pinguin | OK ... please do not wipe us out ... |
| 18:15:23 | Pinguin | Just tell when you are complete ... we wait .. |
| 18:15:28 | akira_ | Pinguin: we are out of training |
| 18:15:38 | Pinguin | Hahaha |
| 18:15:38 | Chestal | yep, I just palayed a little and wasn't very good |
| 18:15:44 | Chestal | hope that will improve |
| 18:15:49 | Chestal | Moles didn't win a match for 4 weeks |
| 18:15:51 | Pinguin | I saw your play! |
| 18:15:54 | TLZAjax | penquins should improve |
| 18:15:59 | TLZAjax | tactics |
| 18:16:06 | Pinguin | improve? Definetly ... |
| 18:16:32 | TLZAjax | TLZ would like to try moles again, but we are 1 short at the mom |
| 18:16:35 | Chestal | uuh, my monitor jsut did a strange thing |
| 18:16:43 | Pinguin | We discussed yesterday after the match a bit ... maybe this helped? |
| 18:16:49 | Chestal | ok, tankmann is here, 3 Moles |
| 18:16:54 | TLZAjax | 2 zees |
| 18:17:01 | akira_ | ok, letz start vs pinguins |
| 18:17:38 | akira_ | allright ? |
| 18:17:43 | TLZAjax | what port will u use? |
| 18:17:48 | Pinguin | For us its ok .... where? |
| 18:17:56 | Chestal | 59001 |
| 18:18:01 | Chestal | colours? I prefer red |
| 18:18:08 | TLZAjax | we all prefer red |
| 18:18:13 | Pinguin | Green is the color of hope! |
| 18:18:18 | TLZAjax | right... |
| 18:18:26 | Chestal | ajax: notall, the frogs prefer green :-) |
| 18:18:33 | Pinguin | Let me go to the toilet ... 2.3 min ! |
| 18:18:34 | TLZAjax | lol - true |
| 18:18:49 | TLZAjax | are you scared already |
| 18:18:58 | TLZAjax | need to go to the toilet - lol |
| 18:18:59 | Chestal | who wants to watch / ref? |
| 18:19:13 | TLZAjax | depends on if TLZ plays |
| 18:19:31 | TLZAjax | till now i have only seen w339 |
| 18:20:11 | Pinguin | OK ... leaving for game ... |
| 18:21:14 | Chestal | well, if someone wants to watch, go to 59001 |
| 18:21:34 | akira_ | whos referee ? |
| 18:22:05 | ^john | is widget here? |
| 18:22:18 | ^john | offcourse not |
| 18:23:06 | akira_ | whos referee ? |
| 18:24:06 | akira_ | whos referee ? |
| 18:24:09 | Chestal | we need a ref on port 59001 |
| 18:25:34 | teA_ | grml |
| 18:25:38 | teA_ | whats going on now ! |
| 18:26:15 | teA_ | ncan penguin play for bz ? |
| 18:26:27 | Chestal | penguins are playing moles now |
| 18:26:33 | teA_ | oh |
| 18:26:38 | teA_ | nshall i be fef |
| 18:26:44 | teA_ | nim ref ok |
| 18:27:02 | teA_ | ....... ? |
| 18:30:09 | ^john | we need a ref |
| 18:30:22 | Ruudi | lets go |
| 18:33:02 | Quol | BZ vs ULT needs a ref on ducati 59000 |
| 18:37:40 | SATAN | away "me largo hasta dentro de un rato" |
| 18:44:32 | ^john | anyone with password to ducati in here? |
| 18:57:53 | Skipp | the ult vs bz needs a ref on ducati 59000 |
| 19:01:57 | Pinguin | Oh no ... another humiliation for the penguins |
| 19:03:22 | Chestal | ah, you didn't play that bad |
| 19:03:29 | akira_ | yep |
| 19:03:32 | Pinguin | but lost bad! |
| 19:03:32 | Chestal | you should play against weaker opponents next :-) |
| 19:03:33 | akira_ | me was bad |
| 19:03:44 | Chestal | I had a lot of problems with bomber |
| 19:03:57 | akira_ | i had a lot of problems with me .) |
| 19:04:55 | akira_ | hallo lupi |
| 19:05:00 | akira_ | wir haben spiel gewonnen |
| 19:05:14 | lupinator | ui |
| 19:05:19 | Chestal | 11:0 gegen penguins |
| 19:05:22 | akira_ | 11 : 0 gegen ... |
| 19:05:23 | akira_ | genaug |
| 19:05:27 | Chestal | obwohl nur tnakmann gut war |
| 19:05:31 | lupinator | : ) |
| 19:05:32 | akira_ | traegstes ein chestal ... |
| 19:05:37 | Chestal | akira_: ja |
| 19:05:38 | akira_ | aber tank war richtig gut |
| 19:05:45 | tan | dankedanke |
| 19:06:02 | akira_ | ich hab immer einen mit ins grab gerissen |
| 19:06:24 | akira_ | Chestal: mist .. die loops immer noch oben ... |
| 19:06:28 | Pinguin | Und es waren viele Gräber! |
| 19:06:37 | akira_ | Pinguin: es waren viel zu viele graeber |
| 19:06:56 | akira_ | tank: kommste mit dem clienten jetzt klar ? |
| 19:07:36 | Pinguin | Wir sind aber mit dem Spiel eigentlich ganz zufrieden ... hatten den Eindruck das es etwas koordienrter war ... |
| 19:07:54 | bomber | we need more training for django |
| 19:07:58 | Pinguin | Auch wenn mit uns der Boden gewischt wurde ... |
| 19:08:01 | akira_ | Pinguin: ihr wart echt nicht schlecht |
| 19:08:07 | Pinguin | Danke ... |
| 19:08:10 | bomber | aber mit prodan.... |
| 19:08:15 | bomber | werden wir besser |
| 19:08:27 | bomber | ich hoffe es :o)) |
| 19:08:30 | Chestal | ULT vs. bz on 59000 now |
| 19:08:31 | akira_ | dann spielt lupi fuer den schlechtesten von uns :)) |
| 19:08:36 | Chestal | dificult to predict who will win |
| 19:12:10 | TLZAjax | hi ginku |
| 19:12:29 | Chestal | hi ginku |
| 19:12:49 | TLZAjax | did you hear anything from fabta ches? |
| 19:12:53 | TLZAjax | fanta |
| 19:16:31 | Chestal | ULT - BZ 1-1 |
| 19:16:42 | Chestal | 16 minutes to go |
| 19:24:44 | Chestal | ULT - BZ 1-2 |
| 19:28:21 | akira_ | final ? |
| 19:30:11 | w339 | hi |
| 19:30:19 | akira_ | hi |
| 19:30:46 | w339 | anyone has seen fantazee? |
| 19:32:32 | akira_ | me not |
| 19:33:35 | teA_ | lalalala |
| 19:33:36 | teA_ | :( |
| 19:33:36 | Chestal | Moles? |
| 19:33:38 | teA_ | Lost |
| 19:33:41 | Chestal | I'll enter match resuklt |
| 19:33:43 | teA_ | 4:3 |
| 19:33:51 | akira_ | chestal what is ? |
| 19:34:17 | tan | ich bin da |
| 19:34:18 | Chestal | I think ULT want to play against us |
| 19:34:25 | teA_ | hihi |
| 19:34:26 | tan | akira, lupi? |
| 19:34:27 | Chestal | will be backin3 minutes |
| 19:34:27 | teA_ | :) |
| 19:34:48 | akira_ | lupi may play for me |
| 19:35:09 | akira_ | lupinator: hey, kriegste das hin ? |
| 19:35:11 | Ruudi | comes arms wide open you may kiss the winners :P |
| 19:35:12 | teA_ | nice game Ruudi |
| 19:35:24 | Ruudi | yea best i have played |
| 19:35:25 | teA_ | Nme kiss kiss ;P |
| 19:35:30 | Ruudi | even my sgore was worst :P |
| 19:35:36 | teA_ | nmine aswell |
| 19:35:36 | bomber | good game tea |
| 19:35:40 | teA_ | yeah |
| 19:35:50 | teA_ | in the last 1 sec i made the 4:3 |
| 19:35:54 | teA_ | :) |
| 19:36:01 | bomber | i know |
| 19:36:06 | Ruudi | but that last flag that was i don't know :) i was just sitin and watchin he wont make it :P |
| 19:36:07 | teA_ | Why cant i carry 2 flags |
| 19:36:09 | teA_ | LOL |
| 19:36:13 | ^john | me too |
| 19:36:21 | akira_ | lupinator: biste da ? |
| 19:36:22 | Quol | C U all later... |
| 19:36:23 | teA_ | lol ruudi |
| 19:36:27 | teA_ | Quol |
| 19:36:27 | teA_ | !!! |
| 19:36:29 | Quol | I have to go. |
| 19:36:30 | tan | bye quol |
| 19:36:31 | teA_ | no |
| 19:36:32 | Ruudi | cu |
| 19:36:36 | teA_ | ULT vs MOLES |
| 19:36:38 | teA_ | ack |
| 19:36:41 | teA_ | grmk |
| 19:36:41 | Quol | sorry teA - I have to go... |
| 19:36:44 | teA_ | hmpf |
| 19:36:47 | teA_ | OK |
| 19:36:47 | Chestal | hmm, without quol only 2 ults I assume? |
| 19:36:52 | Ruudi | so jh lets play one more if there some teams up to fight? |
| 19:36:52 | teA_ | 0 |
| 19:36:54 | ^john | anybody against us? |
| 19:36:57 | Quol | sorry guys. |
| 19:36:58 | Ruudi | i see |
| 19:37:06 | teA_ | Ill play alone against the team moles ;) |
| 19:37:07 | Chestal | john: moesl are complete |
| 19:37:12 | Ruudi | :) |
| 19:37:13 | teA_ | ok ill play |
| 19:37:15 | ^john | let'S GO |
| 19:37:20 | teA_ | on ducati 59000 now |
| 19:37:26 | Quol | I could have played more but it took so mong to get a game going...and now I must do other things :) |
| 19:37:32 | ^john | moles are complete? |
| 19:37:34 | ^john | or not |
| 19:37:40 | akira_ | we are |
| 19:37:46 | ^john | okay |
| 19:37:50 | akira_ | where ? |
| 19:37:53 | Chestal | yes, colours? |
| 19:37:54 | Ruudi | ok i'll go and tae a leak and then where? |
| 19:37:55 | ^john | 59000 |
| 19:38:01 | ^john | we take red? |
| 19:38:03 | Ruudi | well green is ok for us i guess |
| 19:38:05 | Chestal | I prefer red :-) |
| 19:38:06 | Ruudi | ok |
| 19:38:13 | ^john | well ok |
| 19:38:13 | Ruudi | i don't care mutch about color |
| 19:38:27 | ^john | cu 59000 |
| 19:38:27 | Ruudi | i'll bee in 59000 next my piss :P |
| 19:38:33 | ^john | nme too |
| 19:38:38 | Chestal | ok |
| 19:40:22 | akira_ | lupinator: we are on ducati 59000 |
| 19:40:33 | tad_busy | um |
| 19:40:43 | tad_busy | any *a* players in here? |
| 19:41:13 | tad_busy | I guess not |
| 20:05:01 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 20:05:08 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 20:05:59 | T-34 | Hello everybody! |
| 20:06:09 | T-34 | Yo Devil! |
| 20:06:10 | Widget | hihihi, T-34. |
| 20:06:13 | tad_busy | moo |
| 20:06:21 | T-34 | matches this evening/ |
| 20:06:21 | Widget | Wow. |
| 20:06:22 | Widget | We won! |
| 20:06:34 | T-34 | Widget: against who? |
| 20:06:39 | Widget | T-34: ult. |
| 20:06:41 | tad_busy | bah~~~~~ |
| 20:06:49 | T-34 | wow! |
| 20:07:03 | T-34 | ult were just 1 position after us |
| 20:07:23 | T-34 | I must see the rank now |
| 20:07:39 | Widget | You are what team? |
| 20:07:51 | Widget | They are right after GUGLMty now. |
| 20:07:53 | T-34 | Equipo Hispano |
| 20:08:02 | Widget | And they are quite a bit after you now. |
| 20:08:28 | T-34 | Yeap I saw |
| 20:09:35 | T-34 | Widget, good players in your bz team |
| 20:09:44 | T-34 | John, Sniper |
| 20:10:00 | Widget | Yes, I got lucky. :) |
| 20:10:15 | T-34 | when do you think we can meet on the battlefield |
| 20:10:23 | Widget | Ask jh. |
| 20:10:29 | T-34 | n official match! |
| 20:12:56 | T-34 | ok I go to practice |
| 20:12:59 | T-34 | bye |
| 20:13:00 | Widget | OK. |
| 20:13:01 | Widget | Bye. |
| 20:15:33 | akira_ | t-34 moles are ready to destroy you :) |
| 20:15:36 | akira_ | damn |
| 20:15:38 | akira_ | he laft |
| 20:15:44 | Chestal | juhu, Moles #1 now |
| 20:16:49 | akira_ | yeah moles #1 |
| 20:17:11 | akira_ | but after 7 matches i guess .. or ? |
| 20:17:20 | Chestal | we're the team with the most matches now |
| 20:17:23 | Chestal | he dinah |
| 20:17:23 | Ginku | war das ein offizielles Spiel ? |
| 20:17:25 | Chestal | long time no see |
| 20:17:27 | akira_ | das wars |
| 20:17:28 | Chestal | klar |
| 20:17:30 | tad_busy | moocow |
| 20:17:43 | dinah | sorry, im just out of the hosptial |
| 20:17:52 | akira_ | Chestal: dann hatte uns ja das eine spiel richtig runtergerissen was ? |
| 20:17:54 | Ginku | ???? |
| 20:18:19 | Chestal | akira: ja, wenn man mit vielen Pukten gegen ein Team mit weniger Punkten verliert, dann zieht einen das runter |
| 20:18:35 | Chestal | dinah: uh? nothing serious I hope? |
| 20:18:47 | akira_ | chestal, na, dann muss sich mal irgendwer anstrengen um die loops zu schlagen |
| 20:18:55 | dinah | they removed 21% of my left lung |
| 20:19:17 | Chestal | uh, that doesn't sound very good |
| 20:19:25 | dinah | its not |
| 20:19:33 | akira_ | you smoke too much ... |
| 20:19:54 | dinah | that wasnt the problem |
| 20:20:04 | tad_busy | oh? |
| 20:20:11 | akira_ | but ? |
| 20:20:35 | tad_busy | WAA! |
| 20:22:59 | Chestal | dinah: you're still recoverign I guess? |
| 20:23:09 | Chestal | any other complete teams here? |
| 20:23:14 | almogaver | hi |
| 20:23:21 | tad_busy | moo |
| 20:23:43 | Chestal | hi almo, your team gonna play tonight? |
| 20:23:48 | dinah | Chestal: i can sit up for more than 10min. at a time now :-) |
| 20:23:51 | almogaver | i don't know Chestal |
| 20:24:13 | tad_busy | heh |
| 20:24:13 | Chestal | almo: there have been 3 matches already, curently Moles and bz teams should be complete |
| 20:24:23 | tad_busy | games are 30 mins long... |
| 20:24:34 | tad_busy | suspend the monitor above your head.... |
| 20:24:43 | tad_busy | runs and hides |
| 20:24:46 | almogaver | SATAN seems to be out |
| 20:24:59 | Chestal | he was here earlier |
| 20:25:05 | almogaver | Riseman told he can't come |
| 20:25:17 | almogaver | i know nothing about ara and T |
| 20:25:33 | dinah | tad_busy: please im not in the mood |
| 20:26:55 | tad_busy | dinah: sorry |
| 20:31:28 | tad_busy | bah @ freeamp |
| 20:32:43 | SATAN | hello i come back |
| 20:33:16 | tad_busy | ok, good you come back |
| 20:33:37 | tad_busy | hey |
| 20:33:43 | tad_busy | :D |
| 20:36:37 | almogaver | Chestal: it seems that T-34 is on ducati |
| 20:36:46 | almogaver | Chestal: so I think we can play |
| 20:37:06 | akira_ | tan, lupinator and chestal ... keep the good name clean :) |
| 20:37:13 | Chestal | I guess two options |
| 20:37:15 | tan | sure! :) |
| 20:37:16 | tad_busy | :) |
| 20:37:23 | Chestal | his vs. bz or his vs. moles |
| 20:37:37 | akira_ | vz moles |
| 20:37:47 | Widget | Hmhm. |
| 20:37:48 | akira_ | we didnt play for a month now |
| 20:37:53 | almogaver | i think we should play against bz |
| 20:38:02 | akira_ | oh, come on . |
| 20:38:02 | almogaver | cause we played against moles before ;) |
| 20:38:05 | akira_ | were bad |
| 20:38:05 | Chestal | of course, we could do both matches |
| 20:38:14 | akira_ | out of training |
| 20:38:18 | Chestal | almo: you nearly beat us |
| 20:38:37 | almogaver | Chestal: but i didn't play for a long time ;) |
| 20:39:16 | Chestal | then check whether bz team is still available, jh+sniper+ruudi |
| 20:39:27 | Chestal | maybe the penguins are complete, too, bomber+pinguin+django |
| 20:39:31 | dinah | is away: i have to go lay down |
| 20:39:40 | Chestal | dinah: good sleep |
| 20:41:17 | Chestal | oh, hi fant |
| 20:41:17 | tad_busy | hey |
| 20:41:25 | FantaZee | hi all |
| 20:41:36 | Ginku | hallo Fanta |
| 20:41:46 | FantaZee | tach auch ;) |
| 20:41:51 | almogaver | hi FantaZee |
| 20:41:57 | T-34 | Hello again |
| 20:42:00 | T-34 | Hi Almooooooooooo |
| 20:42:03 | SATAN | hi T-34 |
| 20:42:09 | almogaver | hi T-34 :) |
| 20:42:17 | FantaZee | hi 34 |
| 20:42:18 | T-34 | Devil, I was earlier but you didn't answer... |
| 20:42:27 | T-34 | nHi Fanta |
| 20:42:30 | T-34 | Hi all |
| 20:42:31 | SATAN | i was dinner :-( |
| 20:42:44 | T-34 | :) |
| 20:43:01 | T-34 | Did you read the Rise bzmessage? |
| 20:43:12 | Chestal | hmm, loosk like pnegjns are incomplete, cannot find bz team now, either |
| 20:43:12 | akira_ | hei T-34 |
| 20:43:24 | T-34 | Heya Akira |
| 20:43:29 | akira_ | aaah .. his wants to fight moles ... |
| 20:43:35 | T-34 | Good job with your patch |
| 20:43:36 | tan | ok, lets go |
| 20:43:37 | Chestal | ruudi: you there? |
| 20:43:40 | akira_ | they really want to :) |
| 20:43:44 | akira_ | thanx T-34 |
| 20:43:51 | T-34 | nNo they wont |
| 20:43:51 | akira_ | did you have the new one from today ? |
| 20:43:59 | T-34 | Akira: no |
| 20:44:38 | T-34 | HIS don't wanna play against those little inoffensive creatures |
| 20:44:45 | T-34 | HIS loves moles |
| 20:45:09 | Chestal | hah, you're just afraid of us |
| 20:45:26 | FantaZee | his team is the next one we want to kill :)) |
| 20:45:36 | T-34 | thinks that Chestal is right |
| 20:45:38 | akira_ | his are sissies :) |
| 20:46:14 | Chestal | fantazee: you lost two times against his already IIRC |
| 20:46:29 | almogaver | what's a sissie? |
| 20:46:29 | Chestal | haven't seena single loop today |
| 20:46:32 | Chestal | maybe they have been eaten |
| 20:46:36 | FantaZee | i know *g* |
| 20:46:53 | FantaZee | but next time we win |
| 20:46:56 | FantaZee | sure |
| 20:47:02 | T-34 | sissie is a man who drives a tank and crash moles who appear in HIS way |
| 20:47:13 | T-34 | :) |
| 20:47:18 | Chestal | Fant: one day, Moles will have their revenge on you |
| 20:47:20 | almogaver | haha you are dreaming FantaZee |
| 20:48:00 | akira_ | almogaver: a sissie is a crying woman |
| 20:48:18 | Chestal | aber ausser hIs ist wohl auch kein team da |
| 20:48:23 | FantaZee | as we will have our revenge. first match was very laggy. second match was my fault, oooh realy bad day |
| 20:48:29 | almogaver | a mi no me insultes Chestal |
| 20:48:50 | Chestal | hmm |
| 20:49:01 | FantaZee | with bezee, ajax and me his has no chance |
| 20:49:20 | T-34 | Fanta: we never thought it was about chance... |
| 20:49:26 | T-34 | :) |
| 20:49:49 | T-34 | This maybe works for the zee bros |
| 20:50:17 | almogaver | dejad de comadrear |
| 20:50:25 | FantaZee | i want to go playing now. anyone interested to have a little training on 59000 ? |
| 20:50:41 | almogaver | is there the bz team here? |
| 20:50:45 | almogaver | or maybe the penguins? |
| 20:50:45 | T-34 | I'd like to but I'm very very laggy |
| 20:51:06 | T-34 | Almo 2 bz's players are on Ducati now |
| 20:51:07 | Chestal | almo: doesn't seem like it. Ruudi is from the bz team, and he is the only one on irc right now |
| 20:51:21 | T-34 | widget is on Ducati |
| 20:51:31 | Chestal | he was |
| 20:51:37 | T-34 | ah :( |
| 20:51:42 | Chestal | but I don't know whether he can really play, he's bound to lag a lot |
| 20:52:12 | almogaver | for me lag isn't important |
| 20:52:18 | almogaver | we are used to play with a lot of lag ;) |
| 20:54:18 | captain_proton | hmm large channel |
| 20:54:40 | Chestal | proton: yep, some league matches |
| 20:54:58 | Chestal | proton: is meq ever going to play again? |
| 20:55:13 | T-34 | Akira: please tell me again the adress to grab your patch! |
| 20:55:33 | Chestal | no patch for hIs team, when they do not accept our challenge ;-) |
| 20:56:04 | captain_proton | Chestal: i hope so =/ |
| 20:56:12 | captain_proton | no teammates here |
| 20:56:48 | lagtester | hi |
| 20:56:59 | akira_ | T-34: want to compile it from source ? |
| 20:57:12 | akira_ | go to official sf.net site -> bzflag -> patche |
| 20:57:13 | akira_ | go to official sf.net site -> bzflag -> patches |
| 20:57:31 | T-34 | no compiler |
| 20:57:38 | akira_ | just open your eyes and search the one with the name closest to mine :) |
| 20:57:39 | akira_ | win32 ? |
| 20:57:46 | T-34 | I uninstalled c |
| 20:57:49 | T-34 | yeap win |
| 20:57:55 | akira_ | www.wirrehomepage.de -> files -> bzflag |
| 20:58:10 | Ruudi | what is it? |
| 20:58:22 | T-34 | oh and please have anyone of you some documents about JAVA and MySQL? |
| 20:58:24 | akira_ | a homepage |
| 20:58:58 | T-34 | I must develop a bloody aplication on Java using MySQL |
| 20:59:18 | Impulz | ouch.. g'luck :) |
| 20:59:27 | T-34 | thx I need |
| 20:59:32 | Chestal | T-34: hmm, don't know much about that. Would you use JDBC? |
| 20:59:33 | Ruudi | hu hdon't tell me about homepages i must do some work tomorrow...but i better turn my cellhone off so boss can't call me |
| 20:59:35 | T-34 | but also I need money |
| 21:00:02 | T-34 | yeap |
| 21:00:04 | Ruudi | some musicians around here in bz players? |
| 21:00:11 | T-34 | Chestal yes |
| 21:00:29 | T-34 | but I never use Java with databases till now |
| 21:00:33 | Chestal | Ruudi: I guess proton is |
| 21:00:48 | Chestal | T-34: well, me neither |
| 21:00:50 | almogaver | Ruudi: is ur team ready to play? |
| 21:00:51 | T-34 | and I have to learn fast about that |
| 21:01:02 | Ruudi | no we not playin today i guess |
| 21:01:05 | Widget | Ruudi: Ooh, are we really playing? |
| 21:01:15 | Chestal | looks like there won't be any more matches right now |
| 21:01:16 | Widget | Ruudi: Aw... |
| 21:01:16 | akira_ | Ruudi: what do you want to know ? |
| 21:01:29 | almogaver | T-34: JDBC works like a OBDC system, if you know it is very simple |
| 21:01:34 | Ruudi | to know about what? |
| 21:01:38 | Ruudi | akira? |
| 21:01:50 | akira_ | musicians |
| 21:02:07 | Ruudi | a nothin just thought maybe someone got own made stuff for download |
| 21:02:15 | akira_ | aha |
| 21:02:16 | Ruudi | i allways like to listen what peope do at home |
| 21:02:26 | Ruudi | couse i do stuff by my self |
| 21:02:34 | T-34 | Almo I need something to read about that |
| 21:02:53 | Chestal | Ruudi: do you play some instruments? |
| 21:03:17 | Ruudi | bass...and tonight some keyboard too :) as a friend barrowed me midi keyboard |
| 21:03:18 | Impulz | as we are already offtopic.. did anyone ever manage to do SOAP calls in delphi? :) |
| 21:03:24 | Ruudi | and i do programmin in sequencer |
| 21:04:17 | Ruudi | i just wich that i would have a better soundcard |
| 21:04:18 | Chestal | well, I only listen to music, that's all I can |
| 21:04:32 | Ruudi | what kind of stuff you listen? |
| 21:05:04 | akira_ | tool |
| 21:05:26 | Ruudi | http://erasmus.cs.ut.ee/~ruudi/ you can check New section on that page...up left corner |
| 21:05:43 | Chestal | Ruudi: hmm, all sorts, mostly well-known songs, some curent stuff, some 60s,70s,80s, also classical |
| 21:06:39 | Chestal | Ruudi: heh, you should also provide ogg vorbis format, because that is all free |
| 21:07:00 | akira_ | so, good night |
| 21:07:02 | akira_ | good fight |
| 21:07:09 | akira_ | moles 4 ever :) |
| 21:07:11 | lagtester | bye akir....master |
| 21:07:15 | Chestal | good night akira |
| 21:07:22 | T-34 | Akira thx for the patch |
| 21:07:22 | tan | tschüssikowski akira |
| 21:07:28 | akira_ | and keep the name clean Chestal, lupinator and tan |
| 21:07:31 | Impulz | night akira |
| 21:07:37 | T-34 | I promise I play without that against Moles |
| 21:07:42 | T-34 | Good night |
| 21:07:49 | akira_ | without what ? |
| 21:08:22 | akira_ | anyway .. cu |
| 21:08:24 | T-34 | withou your patch |
| 21:08:26 | Ruudi | Chestal...well should i pay for mp3 even if i don't sell em? |
| 21:08:28 | lagtester | why...its a special patch? |
| 21:08:46 | lagtester | however...bye @all |
| 21:08:52 | Chestal | Ruudi: I don't know the exact license for the mp3 stuff |
| 21:08:55 | paul | Ruudi: i think chestal is talking about the MP3 patent issues. |
| 21:08:57 | dinah | is back (gone 00:29:26) |
| 21:09:04 | Chestal | Ruudi: but I think that ogg vorbis is a good thing which should be supported |
| 21:09:14 | paul | hear hear. |
| 21:09:18 | T-34 | very special; Akira made a patch with a few new features: 1 if you play against the Moles your' bullets will go slowly |
| 21:09:19 | Chestal | Ruudi: audio quality is as good as mp3 or even better |
| 21:09:22 | Ruudi | well anyway there is lot of people who like to listen music but cant install ogg support |
| 21:09:30 | Ruudi | i know i have used ogg |
| 21:09:36 | captain_proton | haha T-34 |
| 21:09:40 | Ruudi | but i went into mp3 couse thing i told before |
| 21:09:43 | Ruudi | too dumb :) |
| 21:09:52 | Chestal | Ruudi: freeamp not shipping with ogg decoder? |
| 21:10:10 | Ruudi | well windows mediaplayer dont i guess |
| 21:10:21 | Chestal | hmm, ok, so peopel would have to install it |
| 21:10:22 | Ruudi | realplayer |
| 21:10:28 | Ruudi | yes |
| 21:10:40 | Chestal | of course you could offer both formats |
| 21:10:46 | Chestal | more work for you of course |
| 21:10:53 | Ruudi | well more room more work |
| 21:10:54 | Impulz | winamp 3 is supposed to support ogg vorbis by default install.. |
| 21:11:01 | Ruudi | and i don't like work mutch :P |
| 21:11:26 | Ruudi | winamp 3 got transparent menus :) but beta is too buggi yet |
| 21:12:05 | Ruudi | yesterday i lost my whole hard disk with all songs work in progres...and cd quality wav's |
| 21:12:12 | Impulz | hehe.. the current release candidate is way slower than 2.8x |
| 21:12:14 | Ruudi | now only those 192 mp3 left |
| 21:12:19 | paul | but helps make ogg a viable alternative to mp3 (the more use of it, the more visibility, the more credible ogg becomes) |
| 21:12:38 | paul | Ruudi: eek. sorry to hear that. |
| 21:13:01 | Ruudi | wasn't any nice yeah i just was thinkin about backups...but too late now...anyway i' |
| 21:13:10 | Ruudi | i'm up with new stuff now :) |
| 21:13:13 | Ruudi | and that's good |
| 21:13:27 | paul | Ruudi: i know this doesnt help, but from now on store your stuff on mirrored or raid5 disks and make backups. |
| 21:14:04 | paul | once lost a disk in a RAID5 array, thought no problems, i'll get a new disk for that. |
| 21:14:33 | Impulz | i wish i could afford a raid5 array :p |
| 21:14:45 | paul | was horrified when a few days later a second disk failed - /before/ i'd managed to replace the first failed disk...... |
| 21:15:35 | paul | Impulz: can you afford 3 disks? can you afford linux? if yes -> congratulations! you can afford raid5. |
| 21:15:57 | paul | anyway... |
| 21:16:09 | Impulz | paul, i dont like software raid.. :) |
| 21:16:27 | paul | Impulz: why not? |
| 21:16:32 | Ruudi | well i wish i could afford a cd writer |
| 21:16:38 | Ruudi | or another hdd |
| 21:16:42 | paul | Ruudi: :( |
| 21:17:03 | Ruudi | but i got some server room gigas or so where i can upload at night |
| 21:17:04 | Impulz | if software fails to boot or something you're screwed :) |
| 21:17:26 | Ruudi | well and windows knows how to screw |
| 21:17:31 | paul | Impulz: not true really. (least not with linux md) |
| 21:17:43 | Chestal | hmm, I hate it when i download a movie only to discover that the subtitles are in French |
| 21:17:51 | paul | put your boot stuff on raid1. |
| 21:18:02 | Ruudi | heh you can check it int the beginning ches :) |
| 21:18:04 | paul | Impulz: your screwed if a hardware raid5 fails to boot too. :) |
| 21:18:20 | Chestal | Ruudi: with edonkey, I might get the start of the file very late |
| 21:18:29 | Ruudi | well it's hard to get screwed in linux but no use of linux to me |
| 21:18:40 | paul | Impulz: linux raid1 - you can boot each mirror as a normal single disk. |
| 21:18:40 | Ruudi | hm |
| 21:18:42 | Impulz | hehe.. hardware raid is less likely to fail (i hope :-).. and i'd need the disk space on my windows box.. and windows raid.. no way :) |
| 21:18:55 | Widget | Chestal: But what is the actual movie in? |
| 21:19:00 | Ruudi | i got ftp for movies 3 of them actualy all the new stuff i get em befor than movies here :P |
| 21:19:03 | paul | Impulz: no, hardware raid is /more/ likely to fail. (think about it) |
| 21:19:25 | Ruudi | theaters i mean |
| 21:19:39 | T-34 | Bye all! to bad the moles didn't accept to play against HIS! |
| 21:19:43 | T-34 | :) |
| 21:19:45 | Impulz | Ruudi, gimme an account ;) |
| 21:19:50 | paul | bye t-34. |
| 21:19:53 | Ruudi | cant it's public :P |
| 21:20:00 | Chestal | widget: japanese or something |
| 21:20:02 | Ruudi | but it's estonian only i guess |
| 21:20:04 | Ruudi | you can try |
| 21:20:30 | Impulz | paul, hmm.. i'll think about it later.. i have to admit i'm too tired :-) hardly got any sleep last night |
| 21:20:33 | captain_proton | what movie? |
| 21:20:35 | Ruudi | ftp.kpnqwest.ee - one; toru.hot.ee - two; pump.starman.ee - three |
| 21:20:37 | paul | Impulz: :) |
| 21:20:54 | Chestal | Nausicaa, an Anime |
| 21:20:57 | Impulz | kpnqwest? i thought they completly shut them down? :) |
| 21:21:05 | Ruudi | nop |
| 21:21:05 | paul | Impulz: i'd agree about NT/2K software RAID though - dont touch it with a bargepole. (but then that applies to NT/2K in general). |
| 21:21:06 | Chestal | already downloading a different version, let's see ;-) |
| 21:21:08 | Ruudi | works here |
| 21:21:33 | Ruudi | anyone have seen movie called Pi? |
| 21:21:42 | Chestal | yep, some years ago |
| 21:21:47 | captain_proton | of course |
| 21:21:48 | paul | Impulz: about the failure thing: RAID card introduces a /lot/ of extra failure points. another set of cpu, bus, memory, software that can fail. |
| 21:21:53 | captain_proton | that movie rocks |
| 21:22:16 | Ruudi | pi is awesome best movie i think |
| 21:22:45 | Impulz | paul, hmm.. but i guess there's a reason why companys hardly use software-raid systems :) |
| 21:23:01 | Impulz | Ruudi, cant connect on them :( |
| 21:23:08 | paul | Impulz: plus, software RAID is quite fast (esp. for RAID5). Athlon or P4 will way outstrip the embedded CPUs used on RAID cards. (eg AMD 29k, StrongARM) |
| 21:23:13 | paul | Impulz: you reckon? |
| 21:23:21 | Ruudi | well then i'm right Impulz they all estonian only |
| 21:23:29 | paul | Impulz: software RAID is used everywhere.. (eg sun cluster) |
| 21:24:08 | Ruudi | my computer tell's me every morning bios ROM checksum error what can it be? |
| 21:24:23 | paul | is the clock wrong too? |
| 21:24:33 | Chestal | battery empty? |
| 21:24:34 | Ruudi | seems right |
| 21:24:35 | paul | if yes - battery |
| 21:24:45 | paul | if no - reload your default settings and save them. |
| 21:24:50 | Ruudi | well it's like 1.5 year old computer |
| 21:25:13 | Ruudi | well i reloaded defaults but don't know something weird in my pc anyway |
| 21:25:24 | Ruudi | maybe some nasty bug like tarantula |
| 21:26:57 | Impulz | paul, hm.. maybe you're right.. i'm not very familiar with raid systems.. i just heard from a couple of people that they prefer hardware raid.. :) |
| 21:28:01 | paul | well, i admin machines with both. biggest difference i see is that the software RAID5 systems get better IO. :) |
| 21:28:26 | Ruudi | i'd prefere mac loaded with two 1Gz power cpus |
| 21:28:38 | paul | Impulz: they both have their place. |
| 21:28:52 | Ruudi | only is there a bz for mac? |
| 21:29:05 | Impulz | i'd prefer my bed right now.. so i think i'll stick to that for now :) good night :) |
| 21:29:16 | Ruudi | night |
| 21:29:19 | paul | Impulz: night. :) |
| 21:29:19 | captain_proton | there's bz for os X or linux-ppc |
| 21:29:28 | Ruudi | i see |
| 21:29:36 | captain_proton | no os <=9.x |
| 21:29:42 | Ruudi | dam power mac woult be dream :) |
| 21:29:59 | Ruudi | would be ...dam typing |
| 21:46:40 | akira_ | moin |
| 21:46:55 | dinah | pardon? |
| 21:47:00 | Widget | Moin. |
| 21:47:02 | Widget | akira_: My condolences. |
| 21:47:24 | akira_ | for what ? |
| 21:47:36 | Widget | World Cup. |
| 21:48:22 | akira_ | ah, never mind |
| 21:48:31 | akira_ | 2 seconds without concentration |
| 21:49:40 | akira_ | hello jh |
| 21:49:42 | Widget | Hi, ^john. |
| 21:49:43 | ^john | hi |
| 21:49:50 | ^john | 1 loss 1 win |
| 21:49:57 | Widget | Who did we lose to? |
| 21:50:01 | ^john | moles |
| 21:50:03 | ^john | lol |
| 21:50:05 | tad_busy | pigs |
| 21:50:15 | ^john | not a change |
| 21:50:16 | Widget | 9-1. |
| 21:50:17 | Widget | Hm. |
| 21:50:26 | Widget | I wanted to play! |
| 21:50:30 | akira_ | :) |
| 21:50:31 | ^john | ult 4-3 |
| 21:50:43 | Widget | Ja, I know. |
| 21:50:44 | akira_ | are moles playing at the moment ? |
| 21:50:51 | ^john | well u should have been there |
| 21:50:55 | ^john | or here |
| 21:51:03 | Widget | I was here on the Channel! |
| 21:51:05 | Chestal | akira: no, no more mole matches today |
| 21:51:12 | Widget | Ruudi said there wouldn't be a match! |
| 21:51:13 | ^john | hmm |
| 21:51:22 | akira_ | Chestal: bad for lupinator isnt it ? |
| 21:51:22 | ^john | he did? |
| 21:51:26 | Widget | Jaja |
| 21:51:36 | ^john | strange |
| 21:51:38 | Chestal | akira: well, he should do some training first anyway :-) |
| 21:51:47 | Widget | Hey. The Moles are now ahead of the LoOps again. |
| 21:52:01 | akira_ | Chestal: lupi and training ? |
| 21:52:06 | ^john | next time u play widget |
| 21:52:10 | Chestal | john: ruudi said there wouldn't be another bz match today after the 2 you already had |
| 21:52:12 | akira_ | of coz .. indead .. hes the worst of us :) |
| 21:52:18 | Widget | Ooooooooh. |
| 21:52:18 | Chestal | akira: naja, er hat in lettzer Zeit selten gespielt |
| 21:52:23 | ^john | oh yes |
| 21:52:32 | Widget | Well, I was gone until 8:00. I had to get stitches. |
| 21:52:37 | Widget | I fell off my bike yesterday. :'( |
| 21:52:53 | Chestal | ouch |
| 21:52:55 | akira_ | mhhhh .. yami yami french cheese i am eating right now :) |
| 21:53:08 | Widget | By itself? |
| 21:53:31 | akira_ | Widget: mama told you not to move the additional wheels of from your bike :)) |
| 21:53:53 | ^john | lol |
| 21:54:00 | Widget | Haha/ |
| 21:54:23 | Widget | What is the number in parentheses after our rating? |
| 21:54:28 | Chestal | well, I guess I'll go home now. Cu |
| 21:54:32 | Chestal | Widget: number of matches |
| 21:54:35 | akira_ | Widget: number of matches |
| 21:54:35 | Widget | Ah. |
| 21:54:38 | akira_ | :) |
| 21:54:48 | akira_ | cu Chestal |
| 21:54:55 | Widget | Bye, Chestal. |
| 21:55:09 | almogaver | hi again |
| 21:55:13 | Widget | hihihi, almogaver. |
| 21:55:40 | akira_ | hei almogaver |
| 22:21:05 | akira_ | cu all |
| 22:28:53 | jzaun | Whys is it bzfs core dumps on me after about 2 hours? |
| 22:35:44 | paul | no idea - but the answer might be in the core dump. |
| 23:13:12 | r0sk | osi |
| 23:14:14 | funkyshit | hi |
| 23:14:24 | funkyshit | r0sk[SLEEP] mira el topic |
| 23:14:28 | r0sk[SLEEP] | yes yes |
| 23:14:29 | funkyshit | hay mogollon de cosa |
| 23:14:33 | r0sk[SLEEP] | toi en ello! |
| 23:14:35 | r0sk[SLEEP] | ;) |
| 23:14:35 | funkyshit | oh, yes yes |
| 23:14:51 | funkyshit | i don't remember that we are i an english channel |
| 23:15:41 | r0sk[SLEEP] | =) |
| 23:16:06 | Widget | There appears to be a cheater on ducati. |
| 23:16:19 | funkyshit | ducati is a server ? |
| 23:16:30 | Widget | Yes. |
| 23:16:33 | Widget | A very famous one. |
| 23:16:41 | Widget | It's where the tournament is taking place |
| 23:16:48 | funkyshit | aha |
| 23:16:58 | funkyshit | i dont know it |
| 23:17:00 | Widget | Chestal: You here? |
| 23:17:11 | funkyshit | it's my second day with bzflag =) |
| 23:17:18 | r0sk[SLEEP] | ;) |
| 23:17:24 | r0sk[SLEEP] | and I kick your ass lot times!! |
| 23:17:42 | funkyshit | my ass is yours |
| 23:17:48 | funkyshit | (_*_) |
| 23:18:10 | r0sk[SLEEP] | (_X_) |
| 23:18:13 | r0sk[SLEEP] | mine too! |
| 23:35:25 | Pinguin | Anyone still alive? |