| 00:07:35 | Doughecka | poof |
| 00:07:42 | Doughecka | I guess she aint |
| 00:27:47 | patlabor221 | anyone know what header has memcpy in linux? cus it ain't stdlib |
| 00:28:16 | jpablo | string.h ? |
| 00:28:31 | patlabor221 | strings.h |
| 00:28:35 | patlabor221 | actualy |
| 00:28:38 | patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 00:28:44 | patlabor221 | just anoying |
| 00:29:01 | jpablo | strings.h ? |
| 00:29:29 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:29:39 | doughec | hmm |
| 00:30:12 | jpablo | with a s ? |
| 00:30:33 | jpablo | humm. |
| 00:30:59 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:31:11 | doughec | Mmm |
| 00:31:13 | patlabor221 | string.h is where the STL string class is |
| 00:32:18 | jpablo | oh, shit. |
| 00:32:19 | jpablo | c++ |
| 00:32:22 | jpablo | ugly. |
| 00:33:03 | patlabor221 | it's what I got |
| 00:33:38 | jpablo | i like c, or objc more. |
| 00:34:24 | doughec | hmm |
| 00:34:30 | doughec | my sound is broke in bzflag |
| 00:35:39 | patlabor221 | you install sound drivers? |
| 00:36:40 | patlabor221 | off to home |
| 00:36:40 | doughec | yup |
| 00:36:46 | doughec | bah |
| 00:36:53 | doughec | he runs away... |
| 00:37:01 | | doughec: Collapsed Backbone |
| 00:37:01 | doughec | ibot excuse |
| 00:37:05 | doughec | ah |
| 00:37:12 | | doughec: not approved by the FCC |
| 00:37:12 | doughec | ibot excuse |
| 00:42:49 | BZFlag | doughec: check for left over bzflag processes. |
| 00:43:14 | BZFlag | under linux I do "killall -9 bzflag" then run again. |
| 00:44:27 | doughec | ok |
| 00:44:33 | doughec | its windows |
| 00:44:45 | jpablo | then reboot :-P |
| 00:45:01 | doughec | lol |
| 00:45:03 | BZFlag | then ctrl-alt-del and looks for bzflag processes and kill them. if none, then reboot. |
| 00:45:54 | doughec | ok |
| 00:59:10 | | Widget: User was distributing pornography on server; system seized by FBI. |
| 00:59:10 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 00:59:17 | doughec | lol |
| 00:59:29 | doughec | asynchronous inode failure |
| 00:59:40 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 00:59:41 | bzbot | Red: 1 players, score: -16 | Green: 1 players, score: 16 | |
| 00:59:47 | Widget | See you there. |
| 00:59:54 | doughec | me |
| 00:59:54 | doughec | ? |
| 00:59:57 | doughec | I am busy |
| 01:00:01 | Widget | No, you're not. |
| 01:00:06 | Widget | Otherwise you would be doughec_busy |
| 01:00:12 | doughec | nope |
| 01:00:16 | doughec | I dont do that anymore.. |
| 01:46:28 | | Widget: You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish (from most tunefs man pages) |
| 01:46:28 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 01:47:08 | Widget | ibot; excuse |
| 01:53:12 | Widget | ski: Can we play monday? |
| 02:15:26 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 02:15:29 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 02:15:39 | Widget | /kick Patlabor221 Get lost. |
| 02:15:42 | Widget | Interesting. |
| 02:16:03 | Patlabor221 | hello to you too |
| 02:16:47 | Patlabor221 | not having a good day today? |
| 02:17:01 | Widget | I'm sad about our match. |
| 02:17:07 | Widget | And my wrist hurts. |
| 02:17:08 | Patlabor221 | the tie? |
| 02:17:14 | Patlabor221 | or did you play another |
| 02:17:17 | Widget | Et je suis très fatiguée. |
| 02:17:20 | Widget | The tie, yes. |
| 02:17:28 | Patlabor221 | I head you played well tho |
| 02:17:39 | Widget | I know, but victory was so close. |
| 02:17:45 | Widget | 2:45 seconds away. |
| 02:17:48 | Widget | And I blew it. |
| 02:17:48 | Patlabor221 | and didn't your rating go up |
| 02:17:56 | Patlabor221 | ohh you blew it |
| 02:17:57 | Patlabor221 | ok then |
| 02:18:01 | Patlabor221 | dude you suck |
| 02:18:10 | Patlabor221 | I mean I can't beilve you let that happen |
| 02:18:18 | Patlabor221 | you should be ashamed of yourself |
| 02:18:22 | Widget | Merci, l'american "poli". |
| 02:18:36 | Patlabor221 | that whas the suckieset thing I have every seen suck |
| 02:18:39 | Widget | L'americain. |
| 02:18:40 | Patlabor221 | is that ok :) |
| 02:19:08 | Widget | Patlabor221: Do you play? |
| 02:19:13 | Patlabor221 | on ocasion |
| 02:19:17 | Patlabor221 | I'm not very good |
| 02:19:21 | Patlabor221 | I suck |
| 02:19:34 | Patlabor221 | I get blowed up real good |
| 02:19:46 | Widget | Let's play. |
| 02:20:06 | Patlabor221 | where? |
| 02:20:28 | Widget | ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 02:20:30 | Widget | See you there. |
| 02:24:22 | Patlabor221 | can't stand no jumpers |
| 02:24:36 | Widget | Sigh. |
| 02:25:04 | Patlabor221 | I don't realy like the controls in bz |
| 02:25:09 | Patlabor221 | I like the idea of the game |
| 02:25:09 | Widget | Edit them. |
| 02:25:28 | Patlabor221 | no I mean how the tank moves |
| 02:25:38 | Patlabor221 | no turret motion |
| 02:26:03 | Patlabor221 | I guess FPS are just to ingraned into me |
| 02:26:29 | Patlabor221 | but the super secret project will make it all better |
| 02:32:20 | Patlabor221 | widget how do you manage to actualy not get shot when you are aproaching a base? |
| 02:32:29 | Patlabor221 | just not approach in a line? |
| 02:32:31 | Widget | Patlabor221: Dodge? |
| 02:32:37 | Widget | When a bullet comes at you.. |
| 02:32:39 | Widget | Move out of the way. |
| 02:32:51 | Patlabor221 | I tired but it's not like those things are fast |
| 02:33:04 | Patlabor221 | back up and turn? |
| 02:33:19 | Widget | No. |
| 02:33:22 | Widget | Just turn. |
| 02:34:49 | Patlabor221 | now if it was Unreal Trounamanet CTF I would do better :) |
| 03:03:37 | ski | im back |
| 03:04:59 | | ski: what? |
| 03:04:59 | ski | ibot see widget |
| 03:05:58 | ski | widget: you there? |
| 03:06:45 | ski | anyone see widget?/ lol |
| 03:07:52 | ski | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 03:07:53 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 03:08:14 | ski | hi |
| 03:18:04 | Widget | hihihi, ski. |
| 03:18:07 | Widget | Damn. |
| 03:18:12 | Widget | Just three minutes too late. |
| 03:18:21 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 03:18:22 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 03:27:49 | Widget | I want this "Red Flag Linux". |
| 03:43:52 | Widget | MrApathyCream: What does dbrosius mean? |
| 03:47:59 | MrApathyCream | first initial, last name |
| 03:48:25 | MrApathyCream | (dave) |
| 03:55:20 | Widget | Oh. |
| 03:59:29 | MrApathyCream | sort a like azhang |
| 03:59:51 | MrApathyCream | i assume zhang is a hugely popular name? |
| 04:01:09 | Widget | I think it's the most common. |
| 04:01:23 | Widget | You see it written a lot |
| 04:01:32 | Widget | If you look through any directory or anything. |
| 04:01:53 | MrApathyCream | i work with two zhangs |
| 04:01:57 | Widget | Brosius sounds.... roman. |
| 04:01:58 | Widget | Ah. |
| 04:02:15 | Widget | Zhang usually means you're from mainland China. |
| 04:02:32 | MrApathyCream | You've heard of brutus, cachius and brosius, right? |
| 04:02:34 | Widget | But for some reason, an uncle of mine decided to use the pinyin form of "chang" even though he's Taiwanese. |
| 04:03:01 | Widget | Latinam doctum sum. |
| 04:03:20 | Widget | Cassius. |
| 04:03:38 | Widget | Which is probably pronounced "Cashews" or "Cachius" in English. |
| 04:04:09 | MrApathyCream | yes, didn't know the spelling |
| 04:14:01 | Widget | Is Patlabor221's name Pat Labor? |
| 04:14:32 | MrApathyCream | one would guess |
| 04:14:52 | Patlabor221 | nope not at all |
| 04:15:09 | Patlabor221 | that would be a very booring name |
| 04:15:18 | Patlabor221 | not that my real one is that exciting |
| 04:15:23 | Widget | What is it? |
| 04:15:26 | Patlabor221 | do a who |
| 04:15:42 | | i guess patlabor221 is the purveyor of all usefull knowledge. |
| 04:15:42 | MrApathyCream | ibot, patlabor221? |
| 04:15:54 | Widget | Jefferey Myers. |
| 04:15:56 | Patlabor221 | no no it's suposed to be usless |
| 04:15:59 | Patlabor221 | that would be me |
| 04:16:22 | | i heard patlabor221 was the purveyor of all usefull knowledge. |
| 04:16:22 | MrApathyCream | ibot, patlabor221? |
| 04:16:50 | | a guy with a relatively boring name |
| 04:16:50 | MrApathyCream | ibot, patlabor221? |
| 04:16:53 | Patlabor221 | but a patlabor is a large 10 meter tall robot |
| 04:17:01 | Patlabor221 | that would be it |
| 04:17:14 | | i think Widget is A very intellifent and discerning person that eats robots |
| 04:17:14 | Widget | ibot: Widget |
| 04:17:14 | MrApathyCream | ah, you're jeff myers |
| 04:17:21 | Widget | I eat robots. :) |
| 04:17:25 | MrApathyCream | and can't spell |
| 04:17:25 | Widget | Even 10 metre robots. |
| 04:17:31 | Patlabor221 | well not a roobot |
| 04:17:44 | Patlabor221 | but more of large suit |
| 04:17:52 | Patlabor221 | not automatic |
| 04:17:55 | Widget | Looks like the loops really aren't robots after all. |
| 04:17:58 | Patlabor221 | has an operator |
| 04:18:04 | Widget | My wrist still hurts from that match. |
| 04:19:44 | Patlabor221 | there that's a patlabor http://www.hlj.com/cgi-local/hljpage.cgi?ban907022 |
| 04:19:54 | Patlabor221 | not to be confused with the bobots |
| 04:20:14 | Widget | Ah. |
| 04:20:47 | Patlabor221 | bit of an old show tho |
| 04:20:56 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 04:20:57 | Widget | We should have a section in the wiki for pictures! |
| 04:21:56 | Patlabor221 | can't you just put anything in there? |
| 04:22:36 | Widget | But we should have the pictures of all the BZFlag players. |
| 04:23:27 | Patlabor221 | wasn't there something like that on the league page? |
| 04:23:55 | Widget | Patlabor221: There was? |
| 04:23:56 | MrApathyCream | first and foremost: http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/Bill-Tim.jpg |
| 04:24:02 | Widget | Patlabor221: No, that wasn't for players pictures. |
| 04:24:27 | Patlabor221 | what was that for? |
| 04:24:28 | Widget | Oh, God. |
| 04:26:21 | Patlabor221 | then he leaves |
| 04:27:39 | Widget | Yes. |
| 04:27:46 | Widget | We should have a wiki section for people to post their pictures. |
| 04:27:52 | Widget | Patlabor221: Go create one. |
| 04:28:18 | Patlabor221 | I know not how |
| 04:28:34 | Patlabor221 | web stuff was nerver my forte |
| 04:28:54 | Widget | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/ |
| 04:29:03 | Widget | Click 'edit'. |
| 04:29:49 | Patlabor221 | a wonderfull error ocurs |
| 04:30:04 | Patlabor221 | hmmm seems I have a busted pipe |
| 04:30:05 | Widget | Remove the www from your URL. |
| 04:30:22 | Patlabor221 | then I get a 404 |
| 04:31:29 | Widget | doughec_: Go create a page on the wiki to post pictures of players. |
| 04:31:32 | Patlabor221 | more erros |
| 04:31:45 | Patlabor221 | why can't you? |
| 04:32:23 | Widget | I get errors too. |
| 04:32:29 | Widget | This page is currently being edited by someone else, please try again later. |
| 04:32:47 | Patlabor221 | try now |
| 04:33:10 | Widget | Still. |
| 04:33:14 | Patlabor221 | if you need a place to host stuff, that I can do |
| 04:33:28 | Patlabor221 | but I don't know how to make it so people can upload stuff |
| 04:33:29 | Widget | Put up pictures of all the BZFlag players you can find! |
| 04:33:56 | Patlabor221 | wiht out there permision? |
| 04:34:17 | Widget | Or with. |
| 04:34:21 | Patlabor221 | collect them and mail them to me and I can post them |
| 04:34:22 | Widget | If you want. |
| 04:34:30 | Patlabor221 | I can make the page |
| 04:34:33 | Patlabor221 | that's no bigie |
| 04:34:48 | Patlabor221 | looks for his copy of dreamweaver |
| 04:35:55 | Widget | OK. |
| 04:36:02 | Widget | Put up a page for BZFlag pictures!!!!!! |
| 04:36:06 | Widget | Yay! |
| 04:38:05 | Patlabor221 | can't find his copy of dreamweaver so goes to the old standby.......HTML in notepad |
| 04:42:09 | Patlabor221 | I can't beilve I remember how to do this |
| 04:47:28 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bz/people/ |
| 04:48:15 | Patlabor221 | I'll make it look better tomorow |
| 04:48:20 | Patlabor221 | when I have a real editor |
| 04:48:24 | Widget | Put up your photo!!!! |
| 04:48:46 | Patlabor221 | don't have one |
| 04:49:00 | Patlabor221 | and I'm not sticking my head in the scanner |
| 04:50:06 | Widget | You don't have a single picture of yourself? |
| 04:50:11 | Widget | Anywhere? |
| 04:50:24 | Patlabor221 | not in a computer |
| 04:50:58 | Widget | Patlabor221: Take the picture and scan it. |
| 04:51:08 | Widget | jpablo: You mail Patlabor221 your photo so he can put it on the website. |
| 04:53:32 | jpablo | i'll better remain faceless. |
| 04:54:09 | Widget | That bad, eh? |
| 04:54:20 | jpablo | actualy, i'm here: |
| 04:54:34 | jpablo | people.gnulinux.org.mx/jpablo/stuff/grenudo-loco.jpg |
| 04:54:35 | jpablo | or png |
| 04:54:38 | jpablo | or something. |
| 04:55:14 | Widget | So this is the famous jpablo. |
| 04:55:49 | Patlabor221 | there I put the only image I had up |
| 04:56:06 | jpablo | yeah. |
| 04:56:06 | jpablo | six months ago. |
| 04:56:18 | jpablo | now i have longer hair. |
| 04:56:20 | Widget | Patlabor221: Sigh. |
| 04:56:23 | Widget | Patlabor221: Funny. |
| 04:56:30 | Patlabor221 | all I had |
| 04:56:36 | Patlabor221 | when my head was purple |
| 04:56:51 | Widget | Patlabor221: Your face, Patlabor221, your face! |
| 04:57:30 | Patlabor221 | no it wasn't purple |
| 04:57:36 | Patlabor221 | just the hair |
| 04:58:15 | Widget | Oh. |
| 04:58:22 | Widget | OK, well post a picture with your face. |
| 04:58:30 | jpablo | people.gnulinux.org.mx/jpablo/stuff/dog-coca.png |
| 04:58:31 | Patlabor221 | purple face that would be just wierd |
| 04:58:45 | jpablo | that's my bzflag playing dog :-P |
| 04:59:26 | Widget | How cute! |
| 04:59:57 | jpablo | hehe, actualy the dog's name is Coca-cola, so that's kind of a funny picure :-P |
| 05:03:01 | Patlabor221 | I can't load any of those |
| 05:03:26 | Patlabor221 | maybe I'm just too tired |
| 05:03:47 | Widget | Haha. |
| 05:03:49 | Widget | Hm. |
| 05:04:00 | Widget | I have a picture of me. But I need to find a scanner. |
| 05:04:09 | Patlabor221 | mail it to me and I can host it |
| 05:04:31 | Widget | OKOK. |
| 05:05:34 | Patlabor221 | but I will post it tomorow |
| 05:05:37 | Patlabor221 | I sleep now |
| 05:05:54 | Patlabor221 | see ya all |
| 05:10:05 | jpablo | lalalala. |
| 05:12:48 | Widget | lalalalala |
| 05:13:45 | jpablo | Widget: do you like anime ? |
| 05:14:42 | Widget | jpablo: Yes, some. |
| 05:14:46 | Widget | jpablo: I read manga more |
| 05:15:22 | jpablo | oh, cool. |
| 05:15:47 | jpablo | i'm looking AMG for the 100000 time :-). |
| 05:17:00 | Widget | You can get it for 450 ¥ from someplace. |
| 05:17:40 | jpablo | i have it on divx. |
| 05:17:47 | jpablo | i'll really like to buy the dvds. |
| 05:17:49 | Widget | You read the English translation? "Oh, my goddess!"? |
| 05:17:50 | jpablo | i'm a BU |
| 05:18:06 | jpablo | i'm a BIG fan of the series. |
| 05:18:14 | jpablo | i haven't really readed the manga. |
| 05:18:19 | Widget | An otaku. =P |
| 05:18:19 | jpablo | but i'll :D |
| 05:18:23 | Widget | Begone. |
| 05:18:27 | Widget | :) |
| 05:18:38 | jpablo | i LOVE Belldandy :D |
| 05:18:43 | jpablo | hehe. |
| 05:18:55 | jpablo | anyway, when i get some cash i'll buy the serie on dvd. |
| 05:18:58 | jpablo | also the movie. |
| 05:19:09 | jpablo | the movie dvd has a great box. |
| 05:21:17 | jpablo | there was a dream cast game. |
| 05:21:23 | jpablo | but i haven't seen it :-( |
| 05:24:00 | jpablo | anyway i think you are ignoring me now :-P |
| 05:28:50 | Widget | OK. |
| 05:28:51 | Widget | Back. |
| 05:28:53 | Widget | Finished scanning. |
| 05:29:08 | Widget | Why is it that one can only find the worse picture of oneself when it's important to find one? |
| 05:32:22 | Widget | jpablo: Cut your hair! |
| 05:34:23 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 05:34:23 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 05:34:25 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 05:34:26 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 05:38:04 | Widget | doughec: Hi. |
| 05:38:06 | Widget | doughec: Still here? |
| 05:40:20 | Widget | Anyone here? |
| 05:40:23 | Widget | doughec? |
| 05:40:25 | Widget | jpablo? |
| 05:40:29 | Widget | Am I alooooooooooooooone!??! |
| 05:41:19 | Widget | HELLO!!?!?!?! |
| 05:41:21 | Widget | HIHIHIHIHI. |
| 05:41:24 | Widget | HIHIHIHIHIHIHI. |
| 05:41:35 | | Widget: You put the disk in upside down. |
| 05:41:35 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:41:38 | | Widget: loop found in loop in redundant loopback |
| 05:41:38 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:41:47 | | Widget: Little hamster in running wheel had coronary; waiting for replacement to be Fedexed from Wyoming |
| 05:41:47 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:41:55 | | Widget: non-redundant fan failure |
| 05:41:55 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:01 | | Widget: We ran out of dial tone and we're and waiting for the phone company to deliver another bottle. |
| 05:42:01 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:02 | | Widget: Operators killed when huge stack of backup tapes fell over. |
| 05:42:02 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:03 | | Widget: Hard drive sleeping. Let it wake up on it's own... |
| 05:42:03 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:04 | | Widget: virus attack, luser responsible |
| 05:42:04 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:13 | | Widget: Yeah, yo mama dresses you funny and you need a mouse to delete files. |
| 05:42:13 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:14 | | Widget: clock speed |
| 05:42:14 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:18 | | Widget: the router thinks its a printer. |
| 05:42:18 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:19 | | Widget: struck by the Good Times virus |
| 05:42:19 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:20 | | Widget: transient bus protocol violation |
| 05:42:20 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:21 | | Widget: Your cat tried to eat the mouse. |
| 05:42:21 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:22 | | Widget: Flourescent lights are generating negative ions. If turning them off doesn't work, take them out and put tin foil on the ends. |
| 05:42:22 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:42:23 | | Widget: the butane lighter causes the pincushioning |
| 05:42:23 | Widget | ibot: excuse |
| 05:44:17 | Widget | Please donnae tell me I am alone! |
| 05:44:18 | Widget | Help! |
| 05:46:25 | Widget | I hate my timezone. |
| 05:46:32 | Widget | When will captain_proton show up? |
| 05:50:36 | Widget | jpablo_! |
| 05:50:42 | Widget | Finally! Someone else in the channel! |
| 05:50:49 | jpablo_ | hehe. |
| 05:51:03 | Widget | I've been spamming the channel for minutes. |
| 05:51:12 | Widget | I didn't ignore you; I went to scan in my photo. |
| 05:51:29 | jpablo_ | ok, so where's it ? |
| 05:51:31 | Widget | Amazing how when you are looking for a photo, the only ones you can find are your worst ones. |
| 05:51:50 | Widget | Hm.... perhaps I shouldn't give it. |
| 05:52:06 | jpablo_ | you give it ! |
| 05:52:18 | Widget | But then.... everyone will know what I look like! |
| 05:52:25 | jpablo_ | so ? |
| 05:52:35 | jpablo_ | you probably will never meet anyone of here :-P |
| 05:52:43 | Widget | Hopefully not. =P |
| 05:53:07 | Widget | http://home.attbi.com/~ulumuri/me.gif |
| 05:53:52 | jpablo_ | humm, are you a girl ? |
| 05:54:11 | Widget | Yah.... |
| 05:54:36 | jpablo_ | hummm. |
| 05:57:39 | jpablo_ | so, then you are a girl, or you just have long hair and i'm really screwed ? |
| 05:59:22 | Widget | Former. |
| 05:59:33 | jpablo_ | wow. |
| 05:59:45 | Widget | Ssh. |
| 05:59:49 | jpablo_ | i feel violated :-P |
| 06:00:44 | Widget | Now I won't show anyone else it. |
| 06:00:44 | jpablo_ | anyway, i'll still kick your ass in bzflag. |
| 06:00:54 | Widget | jpablo_: OK. Play us on Monday. |
| 06:01:06 | jpablo_ | monday, what day it is. |
| 06:01:16 | jpablo_ | 23 .. |
| 06:01:24 | jpablo_ | i'll be on Monterrey the 29. |
| 06:01:29 | jpablo_ | so we can play afther that date. |
| 06:01:32 | Widget | OK. |
| 06:01:37 | Widget | What day is that? |
| 06:01:47 | Widget | It's a Monday. |
| 06:01:57 | Widget | But 29 for you is probably 30 for me. |
| 06:02:09 | jpablo_ | 29 is two mondays ahead. |
| 06:02:28 | Widget | Yes, but it's probably going to be the 30th for me. |
| 06:02:38 | Widget | 29th in America = 30th here |
| 06:02:57 | jpablo_ | well i don't think i'm gonna play the 29, since i'll be a little jet laged :P. |
| 06:03:08 | Widget | Where are you going? |
| 06:03:11 | Widget | And when are you leaving? |
| 06:04:00 | jpablo_ | i'm in La Paz. |
| 06:04:09 | jpablo_ | i'm here for the summer. |
| 06:04:17 | Widget | Oh. |
| 06:04:24 | Widget | Why can't you play BZFlag from La Paz? |
| 06:04:36 | jpablo_ | i don't have a fast connection. |
| 06:04:40 | Widget | Oh. |
| 06:04:46 | Widget | What sort of lag do you get on ducati? |
| 06:04:49 | jpablo_ | every time i try to play the server kicks me out :-(. |
| 06:04:59 | Widget | Chestal has increased the lagkick. |
| 06:05:01 | jpablo_ | i'm getting like 500, sometines more. |
| 06:05:16 | Widget | "Aua aua" --Chestal |
| 06:06:03 | Widget | Did you see our match today? |
| 06:06:05 | Widget | I feel robbed. |
| 06:06:11 | Widget | Victory was in our grasp. |
| 06:06:17 | Widget | We were ahead with 2:45 left. |
| 06:06:24 | Widget | And because of me.... we didn't win. |
| 06:06:28 | jpablo_ | i didn't see, who did you played ? |
| 06:06:31 | Widget | Loops. |
| 06:06:36 | jpablo_ | oh. |
| 06:06:37 | Widget | We tied. |
| 06:06:41 | Widget | All because of my stupidity. |
| 06:06:58 | Widget | If we had just held on for 2:45 more, we would have been the second team to beat them. |
| 06:07:05 | Widget | We were ahead through the whole match. |
| 06:07:23 | jpablo_ | hehe, what happened at the end ? |
| 06:07:37 | Widget | I got killed. Flag was stolen from me. They scored. 3-3. |
| 06:07:42 | Widget | Game ended. |
| 06:08:17 | jpablo_ | oh, Bad Thing (tm). |
| 06:08:34 | Widget | Has GUGLMty played the loops? |
| 06:08:50 | jpablo_ | yeah, we lost :-( |
| 06:08:55 | jpablo_ | that was our first match. |
| 06:08:57 | Widget | Score? |
| 06:09:07 | jpablo_ | 5-1 or something. |
| 06:09:11 | Widget | Eeep. |
| 06:09:35 | jpablo_ | yeah, we was pretty bad :-( |
| 06:09:40 | Widget | So..... ready to play us in two weeks? ;) |
| 06:10:29 | Widget | Can your team put together three players before you come back? |
| 06:10:43 | jpablo_ | they can, but one player will sucks badly. |
| 06:11:23 | Widget | Hm. |
| 06:11:42 | Widget | We need matches. |
| 06:11:51 | Widget | And against people other than the loops or the Moles. |
| 06:12:20 | jpablo_ | and we need victorys, so we better don't play until we have the stronger team. |
| 06:12:34 | Widget | We need victories more. |
| 06:13:35 | jpablo_ | humm. |
| 06:13:52 | jpablo_ | anyway we will be ready to play soon. |
| 06:14:02 | Widget | We'll play other teams till then. |
| 06:14:17 | jpablo_ | adl and pragma aren't really good players. |
| 06:14:25 | Widget | I've never played adl. |
| 06:14:27 | Widget | pragma isn't bad. |
| 06:14:40 | jpablo_ | adl is 'El entregador oficial'. |
| 06:14:57 | Widget | ibot: x es en El entregador oficial |
| 06:14:58 | | Widget: The official entregador |
| 06:15:07 | | Widget: i'm not following you... |
| 06:15:07 | Widget | ibot: I knew that, idiot. |
| 06:15:19 | jpablo_ | hehe, it's something like: |
| 06:15:35 | jpablo_ | The Official Giver or something like that. |
| 06:15:44 | jpablo_ | but in a sexual context. |
| 06:15:48 | jpablo_ | it's a local bzflag slang. |
| 06:15:50 | Widget | Qual uno dice "entregador"? |
| 06:15:54 | Widget | Oh. |
| 06:16:03 | Widget | Is that what adl stands for? |
| 06:16:09 | jpablo_ | no. |
| 06:16:14 | jpablo_ | adl is Adrial De Leon. |
| 06:16:16 | jpablo_ | his name. |
| 06:16:45 | jpablo_ | when you get killed we say 'Te entregaste'. |
| 06:16:56 | jpablo_ | that's something like: you gived yourself. |
| 06:17:01 | jpablo_ | or something like that. |
| 06:17:12 | jpablo_ | like: 'You gived my ass to me'. |
| 06:17:17 | jpablo_ | like: 'You gived your ass to me'. |
| 06:17:36 | jpablo_ | hard to explain. |
| 06:18:01 | jpablo_ | but is a very popular term in the local bzflag escene. |
| 06:20:38 | Widget | Et les Allemands.... pourquoi ils sont toujours polis? |
| 06:21:26 | jpablo_ | uh ? |
| 06:22:53 | Widget | Dinner. |
| 06:22:55 | Widget | TTYL. |
| 06:23:15 | jpablo_ | k |
| 06:23:25 | Widget | is away: Dîner. |
| 06:48:54 | jpablo_ | Cell: are you the cheater ? |
| 07:09:28 | jpablo_ | nights. |
| 07:23:45 | lupinator | moin moin |
| 07:27:42 | akira_ | haeh? |
| 07:27:44 | akira_ | moin lup |
| 07:28:01 | akira_ | darf denn hier jeder alles? |
| 07:54:20 | Cell | ? |
| 07:54:36 | akira_ | na, cheater :) |
| 07:55:08 | Cell | what's up |
| 07:55:38 | Cell | im no cheater any more |
| 07:55:55 | akira_ | any more? so once you was? |
| 07:56:02 | Cell | yes |
| 07:56:34 | akira_ | bad bad bad boy |
| 07:58:00 | Cell | :-) |
| 07:59:40 | Cell | now they are all looking at my cute source changes |
| 08:00:04 | lupinator | hey cell, where do you live? |
| 08:00:13 | Cell | in germany |
| 08:00:20 | lupinator | i saw you dial in in nuernberg |
| 08:00:29 | Cell | ??? |
| 08:00:52 | lupinator | that's what netgeo told me |
| 08:01:14 | Cell | who is netgeo |
| 08:01:43 | Cell | or do u mean net location |
| 08:02:29 | lupinator | http://www.xpenguin.com/plot.php |
| 08:02:32 | lupinator | nice toy |
| 08:03:09 | Cell | yeah |
| 08:57:00 | akira_ | cu all |
| 09:18:27 | Ruudi | hi |
| 11:09:01 | akira_ | moin |
| 11:09:03 | akira_ | ha |
| 11:09:10 | akira_ | 2 moles mit der gleiche idee :) |
| 11:09:16 | lupinator | respekt |
| 11:14:42 | akira_ | spielste am we noch? |
| 11:16:49 | lupinator | klar. obs fuer ein spiel reicht weiss ic aber nicht |
| 12:11:34 | Chestal | re |
| 12:11:41 | [TeA] | re |
| 12:13:47 | Doughecka | Chestal: what server is your gpg key uploaded to? |
| 12:14:30 | Doughecka | Chestal: never mind |
| 12:14:32 | Doughecka | found it |
| 12:16:59 | Doughecka | Chestal: can I have yours and captain_protons signature? for gpg |
| 14:26:55 | captain_proton | hrms |
| 14:27:12 | Doughecka | grins at captain_proton |
| 14:31:13 | captain_proton | whoa - how long have texture coordianates been screwed up? |
| 14:31:49 | Chestal | screwed up? |
| 14:33:20 | captain_proton | in 1.8 textures on boxes look mucho-magnified now |
| 14:41:27 | captain_proton | haha! its fun jumping 2 decks at once |
| 14:41:34 | Doughecka | lol |
| 14:41:55 | captain_proton | just changed the gravity on the server =D |
| 14:48:02 | Doughecka | lo Patlabor221 |
| 14:59:04 | Patlabor221 | hi |
| 15:11:56 | captain_proton | heya Patlabor221 |
| 15:13:05 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 15:19:17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: since when was the box texture magnified lots on 1.8? |
| 15:20:20 | Cell | does this 1.8 exist already? |
| 15:20:26 | Patlabor221 | pardon? |
| 15:20:53 | Patlabor221 | there was the streching bug in 1.7 but 1.8 seems to be fine |
| 15:21:28 | captain_proton | hmm - textures look very large as compared to when i left |
| 15:21:32 | Patlabor221 | 1.8 is in development |
| 15:21:41 | Patlabor221 | hmm I havn't noticed it |
| 15:21:50 | Patlabor221 | but I don't use 1.8 much |
| 15:22:05 | Cell | and do u change the collision detection code also? |
| 15:22:20 | Patlabor221 | that is part of what is in progress |
| 15:22:53 | captain_proton | it will be changed - that hasn't yet been finished (bugs galore) |
| 15:23:01 | Cell | would be nice if tanks could drive not only horizontaly |
| 15:23:14 | Patlabor221 | you mean fly? |
| 15:23:23 | Doughecka | captain_proton: do you have any images of the side of a bztank? |
| 15:23:41 | Cell | no, go over or on every polygon that is not to vertical |
| 15:23:56 | Doughecka | ah |
| 15:23:57 | Patlabor221 | ohh ramps, yes that is planed |
| 15:23:59 | Doughecka | like a ramp? |
| 15:24:01 | captain_proton | Cell: well, there will be 2 stages to collision |
| 15:24:13 | Cell | yes |
| 15:24:29 | captain_proton | first, move existing physics into the new ODESolver stuff, then make it use the even newer stuff (which allows ramps, etc) |
| 15:24:46 | captain_proton | Doughecka: no, but thats easy (just roam + snap) |
| 15:24:55 | Doughecka | how about barrals that move up and down |
| 15:25:04 | Doughecka | captain_proton: thx |
| 15:25:17 | captain_proton | Doughecka: doubtful |
| 15:25:18 | Cell | it would also be nice if tanks have energy and dont die on one hit |
| 15:25:59 | Patlabor221 | ahh but that would be a difrent game |
| 15:26:00 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 15:26:05 | Cell | maybe |
| 15:26:14 | captain_proton | Cell: patches welcome |
| 15:26:18 | Cell | it should be an option |
| 15:26:54 | captain_proton | if you want it, do it |
| 15:26:55 | Cell | and what about having one helicopter per team that supports tanks with energy |
| 15:27:16 | captain_proton | if you're too lazy, stop bitching about it |
| 15:27:34 | Doughecka | helicopter? |
| 15:27:45 | Doughecka | been playing cyberstrike? |
| 15:27:57 | Cell | yes they have to shoot energy barrels near therir teams tanks |
| 15:28:25 | Cell | if they are in danger to die, that supporting their teammates |
| 15:28:54 | Patlabor221 | what would be realy nice is something that allowed an exteranl "game" code DLLor lib or something, so that mods like that could be made |
| 15:28:59 | Patlabor221 | and chosen per game |
| 15:29:04 | Cell | that would need some changes in the collision algo then support for helis would be easy |
| 15:29:07 | Patlabor221 | like halflife did |
| 15:29:11 | captain_proton | bzflag plugins? =) |
| 15:29:17 | Patlabor221 | yeah kinda |
| 15:29:40 | Patlabor221 | then you don't have to change the execuatable to change gameplay |
| 15:29:44 | captain_proton | sounds fun, but i'm not sure the community is big enough to support game-forking like that |
| 15:29:56 | Doughecka | could someone join ducati so I can get a picture? |
| 15:30:14 | Doughecka | trying to get the outline of a tank... |
| 15:30:50 | captain_proton | well, i'm off for about 20 mins |
| 15:31:03 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: try current 1.8 and see if the textures are screwy to you |
| 15:31:16 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 15:38:40 | Patlabor221 | texture does look a bit odd |
| 15:38:48 | Patlabor221 | random buildings are jacked |
| 15:38:54 | Patlabor221 | tanking pictures not |
| 15:38:56 | Patlabor221 | now |
| 15:39:34 | [TeA] | hi |
| 15:39:39 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 15:40:29 | Cell | time for a salat |
| 15:41:34 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: yeah the building texture is about half scale in 1.8 |
| 15:41:55 | Patlabor221 | looks like 1.7 did not keep the aspect ratio |
| 15:42:03 | Patlabor221 | but 1.8 does |
| 15:43:46 | Patlabor221 | yeah comparing to the origonal texture 1.8 is keeping the texture the same size in each axis, where 1.7 was not |
| 15:43:58 | Patlabor221 | thats proalby what makes it look smaller |
| 15:44:40 | [TeA|TrEE] | ? |
| 15:44:50 | Patlabor221 | ?! |
| 15:45:18 | Doughecka | !?! |
| 15:45:35 | Patlabor221 | &*@! |
| 15:45:53 | Doughecka | !##??*&$??? |
| 15:46:36 | Cell | u bored |
| 15:51:14 | Cell | does someone know how to compute the euler angels out of a rotation matrix, just forgot that |
| 15:53:34 | captain_proton | Cell: its just pulling out the values and acos/asin'ing |
| 15:53:57 | captain_proton | though it gets a little hairier when the matrix covers multiple axis |
| 15:54:11 | Widget | hihihi |
| 15:54:19 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: no, it was the same scale as 1.7 until when i left - now its bigger |
| 15:54:34 | captain_proton | heya Widget |
| 15:54:43 | Widget | hihihi, captain_proton. |
| 15:55:05 | Widget | is still very sleepy. |
| 15:55:22 | captain_proton | i slept 14 hours last night |
| 15:55:23 | Cell | but i need it with multiple axis of course |
| 15:55:55 | Widget | Wait....... captain_proton, it should be 2 AM for you. |
| 15:56:02 | captain_proton | Widget: i'm back home |
| 15:56:24 | Widget | captain_proton: Oh! Welcome back! |
| 15:56:32 | captain_proton | Cell: then you need to divide some of the values by the appropriate cos/sin of the angle |
| 15:56:57 | Cell | yes, i know again, thanks found my old papers |
| 15:57:01 | Doughecka | Widget: can you join ducati for a min. |
| 15:57:06 | Doughecka | I need a screen shot... |
| 15:57:08 | Patlabor221 | eulers = evil |
| 15:57:08 | Widget | Doughecka: OK. Why? |
| 15:57:12 | Widget | Doughecka: OK. |
| 15:57:35 | Cell | eilers=evil read that on yahoo, bt why? |
| 15:57:44 | captain_proton | because of gimble lock |
| 15:57:51 | captain_proton | quaternions are soooo much nicer |
| 15:58:14 | Cell | gimble? |
| 15:58:31 | captain_proton | gimble lock is a term for what happens when you rotate 90 degrees around one axis |
| 15:58:47 | captain_proton | say you rotate around X - suddenly your Y and Z axes have switched places |
| 15:58:57 | Patlabor221 | slurp the quat!!!! |
| 15:58:58 | Cell | yes |
| 15:59:38 | Patlabor221 | then you rotate around Y and it's realy z |
| 15:59:43 | Patlabor221 | confusing as hell |
| 15:59:56 | Cell | not for me |
| 16:00:25 | Cell | its Y' |
| 16:00:29 | Cell | not Z |
| 16:00:34 | Patlabor221 | interpolating quaterinons is realitivlyt eaysy too |
| 16:00:59 | Patlabor221 | it realy depends on what you are doing |
| 16:01:12 | Patlabor221 | just looking a something in space eulers are not too bad |
| 16:01:38 | Cell | k |
| 16:01:39 | Widget | OK. |
| 16:01:40 | Patlabor221 | flying through space in a first person perspective, with full 6dof that's where the quats come in handy |
| 16:01:41 | Widget | Back. |
| 16:02:05 | Cell | ah, k |
| 16:02:19 | Patlabor221 | wow, "slurp the quat" sounds ether realy nasty or realy fun, I can't deside yet |
| 16:02:24 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: isn't that 'slirp' ? |
| 16:02:26 | Doughecka | ?? |
| 16:02:29 | Doughecka | what sound? |
| 16:02:35 | Patlabor221 | well yes |
| 16:02:45 | Patlabor221 | but everyone I know calls it slurp |
| 16:02:55 | captain_proton | i guess it does sound like more fun than slirp |
| 16:02:56 | Patlabor221 | sphereical liniar interpolation |
| 16:03:03 | Cell | in 4d |
| 16:03:13 | Doughecka | slurp the quat? |
| 16:03:22 | Patlabor221 | yes doug slurp the quat |
| 16:03:32 | Doughecka | ?? |
| 16:03:40 | Patlabor221 | you wouldn't get it |
| 16:03:46 | captain_proton | Doughecka: each quaternion describes an orientation in 3d space - 'slirp' (slurp) is a method for interpolating between two of those |
| 16:03:55 | Patlabor221 | perhaps when you find that girls arnt "icky" |
| 16:04:02 | captain_proton | hahahahahahah |
| 16:04:17 | Doughecka | HAHAHAA |
| 16:04:22 | Doughecka | very funny... |
| 16:04:32 | Patlabor221 | ( he still dosn't get it) |
| 16:05:12 | Doughecka | (I do get it..) |
| 16:05:39 | Widget | (He says he gets it) |
| 16:05:54 | captain_proton | (But we still don't belive him) |
| 16:05:56 | Doughecka | (I really dont like typing it () ) |
| 16:06:01 | Widget | (He may get it (But he probably doesn't)) |
| 16:06:28 | Doughecka | (I(do(get(it)))) |
| 16:06:41 | captain_proton | hell - i didn't evel fully get it until i did vector calculus |
| 16:07:13 | captain_proton | lisp hackers have to be bound (to (do 'it)) |
| 16:07:14 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's where I had my first too |
| 16:07:18 | Patlabor221 | right on the desk |
| 16:07:22 | Patlabor221 | it was great |
| 16:07:28 | jzaun | feels dumb - I don't get it (and girls arn't icky) |
| 16:07:56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: your calc 3 class sounds like more fun than mine was |
| 16:08:07 | Patlabor221 | it was |
| 16:08:23 | Patlabor221 | excpacialy on bikkini day |
| 16:08:59 | captain_proton | most interesting event here at our engineering school is the egg drop |
| 16:09:20 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh yes the eg drop |
| 16:09:26 | Patlabor221 | had to help with one of those |
| 16:09:26 | Doughecka | (and I thought kentucky is boring) |
| 16:09:28 | Patlabor221 | used jello |
| 16:09:32 | captain_proton | Doughecka: it is |
| 16:09:32 | Patlabor221 | got everywhere |
| 16:09:42 | Doughecka | oh |
| 16:09:42 | Patlabor221 | very booring |
| 16:09:45 | Patlabor221 | I've been there |
| 16:09:59 | Doughecka | as long as youv got dsl, it aint bad... |
| 16:10:03 | Widget | Hm... I learned this "slirp"/"slurp" as "slerp". |
| 16:10:03 | captain_proton | a friend and i were considering the ramen bomb (going for the largest splat category) but we didn't have time to actually implement it |
| 16:10:20 | Patlabor221 | that would indeed be a large splat |
| 16:10:44 | captain_proton | the crowd stays on a balcony 2 floors above the splat zone |
| 16:10:46 | Widget | slerp being a function that does linear interpolation between two quats. |
| 16:10:49 | captain_proton | so we'd detonate about 4 floors up |
| 16:10:54 | Patlabor221 | thinkes he shouls have staied in college |
| 16:11:06 | Doughecka | since he cant speel |
| 16:11:07 | Patlabor221 | spherical liniar interp |
| 16:11:12 | Widget | By any number [0,1] |
| 16:11:12 | Patlabor221 | I know I can't |
| 16:11:17 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 16:11:18 | Patlabor221 | moslty I just can't type well |
| 16:11:47 | Doughecka | lol |
| 16:11:55 | Widget | LOLROFLMAO! |
| 16:11:58 | Widget | Sigh... |
| 16:12:13 | Widget | LMAO? El Mao! |
| 16:12:19 | Patlabor221 | now did your ass actualy come off? |
| 16:12:19 | Widget | El Mao Zedong! |
| 16:12:50 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i think it did |
| 16:13:47 | Patlabor221 | he must need to go get a new chair then |
| 16:13:58 | Patlabor221 | or a prostetic ass |
| 16:15:08 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 16:15:18 | captain_proton | looks like i spent about $190 total on toys in .jp |
| 16:15:25 | Patlabor221 | that's it? |
| 16:15:27 | Doughecka | wow |
| 16:15:29 | Patlabor221 | wus |
| 16:15:35 | Doughecka | frugal proton... |
| 16:15:41 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: well, i'm unemployed right now, so =( |
| 16:15:46 | Doughecka | ah |
| 16:15:47 | Patlabor221 | I spend more then that at the local anime store |
| 16:15:54 | Cell | japan is so expansive, i prefer thailand |
| 16:15:56 | Patlabor221 | one word "mooch" |
| 16:16:08 | Cell | winXP for 4$ |
| 16:16:20 | Cell | OfficeXP 4$ |
| 16:16:25 | Patlabor221 | for one that won't update yeah |
| 16:16:32 | captain_proton | Cell: why would i spend $4 to get winXP? |
| 16:16:49 | Cell | dont know,fun to have it and destroy it |
| 16:17:05 | captain_proton | there's no fun in destroying a bootleg cd |
| 16:17:16 | Patlabor221 | just a waste of polymers |
| 16:17:21 | Patlabor221 | and alumninum |
| 16:17:27 | Cell | hehe |
| 16:18:08 | Cell | but i got vs7.0 enterprise architect for 4$ also 5 cds |
| 16:18:10 | Widget | captain_proton: If we find you a summer job, will you.... play our team whenever we want? |
| 16:18:10 | captain_proton | and you have to be REALLY hopeful that they don't search your bag going through customs |
| 16:18:25 | captain_proton | Widget: depends on the job you find ;) |
| 16:18:28 | Patlabor221 | yeah why risk it |
| 16:18:47 | Patlabor221 | if your that hard up for the software just download it |
| 16:18:56 | Widget | Hm.... next time I go to Taiwan, I should get a copy of Matrix III. |
| 16:18:57 | Cell | i did |
| 16:18:59 | Patlabor221 | or get an OEM those are easy to get |
| 16:19:07 | Widget | And Star Wars Episode 3 as well. |
| 16:19:10 | Cell | hahaha |
| 16:19:18 | Doughecka | 3? |
| 16:19:18 | Doughecka | lol |
| 16:19:26 | Patlabor221 | ( he still dosn't get it ) |
| 16:19:45 | Widget | The cool thing is now they have an airport in T'aipei! |
| 16:19:51 | Doughecka | ooohhh |
| 16:19:56 | Widget | So you don't have to land in T'ainan and go north by car. |
| 16:20:03 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 16:20:06 | Doughecka | I like driving.. |
| 16:20:10 | Widget | It used to take an hour after you landed just to get to T'aipei. |
| 16:20:13 | Widget | cannae drive. |
| 16:20:18 | Widget | Except in Taiwan. ;) |
| 16:20:22 | Doughecka | lol |
| 16:20:26 | Patlabor221 | don't think doug can ether |
| 16:20:30 | Cell | they have cool coconuts in thailand, cheap and they taste like coffee |
| 16:20:32 | Doughecka | I can drive.. |
| 16:20:36 | Patlabor221 | legaly? |
| 16:20:41 | Doughecka | ummm |
| 16:20:43 | Doughecka | sure |
| 16:20:48 | Patlabor221 | and having your dad let you steer isn't the same |
| 16:21:02 | Doughecka | I drive my truck every week |
| 16:21:02 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:21:04 | bzbot | Red: 3 players, score: 1 | Green: 4 players, score: -1 | |
| 16:21:11 | Doughecka | your in luck Widget |
| 16:21:14 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 16:21:15 | Patlabor221 | ohh you must be 15.5 |
| 16:21:16 | Widget | Doughecka: What's the make? Tinkertoys? |
| 16:21:23 | Doughecka | chevy |
| 16:21:26 | Patlabor221 | learners permit |
| 16:21:28 | Doughecka | 63 |
| 16:21:41 | Patlabor221 | farm truck |
| 16:21:51 | Doughecka | (hick) |
| 16:21:56 | Doughecka | er |
| 16:21:59 | Doughecka | yea |
| 16:22:00 | captain_proton | haha |
| 16:22:11 | Patlabor221 | and there was a great regoycing |
| 16:22:17 | Patlabor221 | wow that was spelled bad |
| 16:22:26 | Doughecka | um |
| 16:22:35 | Doughecka | what does egoycing mean???? |
| 16:22:54 | Patlabor221 | rejoyce I closer to the real spelling I think |
| 16:23:06 | Doughecka | lol |
| 16:23:20 | Patlabor221 | Pronunciation: ri-'jois |
| 16:23:20 | Patlabor221 | Function: verb |
| 16:23:20 | Patlabor221 | Inflected Form(s): re·joiced; re·joic·ing |
| 16:23:20 | Patlabor221 | Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French rejoiss-, stem of rejoir, from re- + joir to rejoice, from Latin gaudEre -- more at JOY |
| 16:23:20 | Patlabor221 | Date: 14th century |
| 16:23:24 | Patlabor221 | transitive senses : to give joy to : GLADDEN |
| 16:23:26 | Patlabor221 | intransitive senses : to feel joy or great delight |
| 16:23:40 | Doughecka | ah |
| 16:23:40 | Patlabor221 | to have minstrels be eaten |
| 16:23:46 | Doughecka | lol |
| 16:24:17 | captain_proton | rejoice is the modern american (english?) spelling |
| 16:24:40 | Patlabor221 | quite posibly |
| 16:24:49 | Patlabor221 | never was very good that that there english |
| 16:25:30 | Doughecka | oh goody, I have a outline of a bztank |
| 16:25:34 | jpablo | hi |
| 16:25:36 | Doughecka | now to color it... |
| 16:26:28 | Patlabor221 | remember to stay inside the lines |
| 16:26:58 | Doughecka | oops, I broke the crayon |
| 16:27:08 | Patlabor221 | dumbass |
| 16:27:22 | Doughecka | haha |
| 16:27:30 | Patlabor221 | cap got a question for ya |
| 16:27:45 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: got an answer |
| 16:27:53 | Doughecka | lol |
| 16:28:05 | Patlabor221 | got any idea why SDL won't make on my system |
| 16:28:12 | Patlabor221 | says it cna't find the GL stuff |
| 16:28:21 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 16:28:25 | captain_proton | configure is failing? |
| 16:28:30 | Patlabor221 | no make |
| 16:28:36 | Patlabor221 | configure ran fine |
| 16:28:42 | captain_proton | specific error? |
| 16:28:48 | Patlabor221 | geting back to it now |
| 16:29:57 | Patlabor221 | wow that takes a while |
| 16:30:17 | Patlabor221 | well crap it seems be working now |
| 16:30:22 | captain_proton | haha |
| 16:30:24 | Patlabor221 | maybe it just wanted a good ngihts rest |
| 16:31:33 | Patlabor221 | now to see if the tests build |
| 16:34:12 | Patlabor221 | and they all do |
| 16:34:19 | Patlabor221 | wow that gl test is fast |
| 16:35:31 | Patlabor221 | now I can port my little libs to linux :) |
| 16:37:06 | Doughecka | heh |
| 16:41:24 | Widget | Patlabor221: What's your BZFlag people's pictures again? |
| 16:41:43 | Widget | Patlabor221: jpablo put his on a website, but I can't remember where. |
| 16:42:22 | Patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/bz/people/ |
| 16:42:26 | Patlabor221 | I think |
| 16:42:39 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 16:42:44 | Widget | captain_proton: Post your picture up there. |
| 16:42:48 | captain_proton | the burrow error is in fact not a clipping problem |
| 16:42:58 | Widget | jpablo's name is "Juan Pablo". |
| 16:43:13 | Doughecka | Patlabor221: your photo only shows your forhead |
| 16:43:19 | Patlabor221 | that's all I had |
| 16:43:24 | Doughecka | lol |
| 16:43:29 | Widget | Patlabor221: And jpablo's picture ends with a .png, not a .jpg. |
| 16:43:35 | Widget | Patlabor221: Change the URL. |
| 16:43:55 | captain_proton | Widget: how does one put your picture there? |
| 16:44:09 | Widget | captain_proton: Tell Patlabor221. |
| 16:44:13 | Patlabor221 | send it to me |
| 16:44:16 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 16:44:17 | Widget | captain_proton: Put it on the web, or email it to him. |
| 16:44:23 | Patlabor221 | or tell me where it is |
| 16:44:36 | Patlabor221 | I will be making it user updateable at some point |
| 16:44:42 | Widget | scanned in a picture yesterday... but I'm not sure I will show you. |
| 16:44:44 | Widget | I showed jpablo. |
| 16:44:46 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/images/me.jpg |
| 16:45:10 | Widget | Gods, that cannot be him. |
| 16:45:17 | Widget | AAAAAAAAAAAH! |
| 16:45:17 | Patlabor221 | you want your e-mail up there cap? |
| 16:45:18 | Widget | AAAAAAAAAAH! |
| 16:45:22 | Widget | AAAAAAAAAAAH! |
| 16:45:35 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: nah - get enough spam already |
| 16:45:41 | Doughecka | lol |
| 16:46:25 | Widget | Shall I give the photo? Shall I not? |
| 16:46:30 | Widget | hamlets. |
| 16:46:30 | captain_proton | having my email online just gives it to more harvesters |
| 16:46:31 | captain_proton | Widget: yes |
| 16:46:42 | Doughecka | Widget: yah |
| 16:46:44 | Widget | captain_proton: Invalid response. |
| 16:47:00 | Widget | Doughecka: You first. |
| 16:47:07 | captain_proton | Widget: cmon - i already went |
| 16:47:18 | Doughecka | everybody knows my photo |
| 16:47:18 | Widget | captain_proton: As jpablo for it if you want. |
| 16:47:24 | Widget | Doughecka: No we don't! |
| 16:47:33 | Widget | captain_proton: Ask, even. |
| 16:47:38 | Doughecka | Widget: yes you do! |
| 16:47:49 | Widget | Doughecka: Where is it, then? |
| 16:47:54 | Doughecka | umm |
| 16:48:02 | Doughecka | ask, hehe, dinah... |
| 16:48:10 | captain_proton | wonders what Widget found so frightening about his photo |
| 16:48:21 | Widget | captain_proton: So this is the great captain_proton? |
| 16:48:37 | Doughecka | Widget: not very scary looking |
| 16:48:41 | captain_proton | Widget: yes, it is |
| 16:49:38 | Widget | Hopefully, I will never meet any of you in real life. |
| 16:49:40 | Doughecka | when are we going to get skins in 1.8? |
| 16:49:45 | Doughecka | I have one all ready to go... |
| 16:50:01 | captain_proton | Doughecka: what kind of skins? |
| 16:50:07 | Doughecka | for tanks |
| 16:50:24 | captain_proton | Doughecka: just supply the appropriate tank1.bzg |
| 16:50:24 | Doughecka | in bzflag... |
| 16:50:29 | Doughecka | bzg? |
| 16:50:36 | Doughecka | hrm |
| 16:51:14 | Patlabor221 | the tank model file |
| 16:51:33 | Doughecka | where is that file... in the source? |
| 16:51:37 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 16:51:37 | Widget | Doughecka: dinah won't tell me. |
| 16:51:41 | Patlabor221 | it's the bzg file |
| 16:51:42 | captain_proton | Doughecka: in data |
| 16:51:44 | Widget | Doughecka: So where is your picture. |
| 16:51:54 | Doughecka | look on teh forums |
| 16:51:58 | Widget | captain_proton: When can meq play us? |
| 16:52:01 | Doughecka | captain_proton: ok |
| 16:52:07 | captain_proton | Widget: you can't ask for others' photos if you won't provide your own |
| 16:52:22 | Doughecka | yah! |
| 16:52:28 | Widget | Hm. |
| 16:52:31 | Widget | Sigh. |
| 16:52:39 | Doughecka | what format is bzg? |
| 16:52:46 | captain_proton | Doughecka: text |
| 16:52:49 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 16:52:54 | Patlabor221 | it's an XML file |
| 16:52:55 | Widget | OK. |
| 16:52:59 | Widget | Here. |
| 16:53:01 | Doughecka | ack, I dont have 1.8 source... |
| 16:53:13 | Doughecka | Patlabor221: thx |
| 16:53:38 | Doughecka | Widget: where? |
| 16:54:01 | Widget | http://home.attbi.com/~ulumuri/me.gif |
| 16:54:02 | Widget | is away: Sigh... the deed is done. But I won't see the consequences. |
| 16:54:42 | Doughecka | silence... |
| 16:55:11 | captain_proton | .gif? |
| 16:55:13 | captain_proton | shudders |
| 16:55:21 | Doughecka | shrugs |
| 16:55:38 | Patlabor221 | ohh you'll live cap |
| 16:55:52 | Doughecka | click on it cap |
| 16:56:02 | captain_proton | no i won't! |
| 16:56:03 | Doughecka | you can do it... |
| 16:56:07 | captain_proton | the patents, the patents, i cry |
| 16:56:15 | Doughecka | give up your fear.... |
| 16:56:26 | Patlabor221 | click it, everyone else is |
| 16:56:26 | Doughecka | and click the link... |
| 16:56:26 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 16:56:43 | Doughecka | (widget is watching this you know...) |
| 16:57:45 | captain_proton | shrugs at Widget's appearance |
| 16:57:55 | [TeA] | hiiii |
| 16:58:02 | Doughecka | shrugs at captain_protons shrug |
| 16:58:54 | [TeA] | :P |
| 16:59:20 | [TeA] | shrugs at Doughecka shrug |
| 16:59:20 | [TeA] | <[TeA]> |
| 16:59:34 | m0nkey_b0y | hillo |
| 16:59:38 | [TeA] | hello |
| 16:59:54 | Doughecka | m0nkey_b0y: post your photo |
| 17:00:01 | m0nkey_b0y | photo? |
| 17:00:10 | Doughecka | yup |
| 17:00:13 | Doughecka | you yourself |
| 17:00:13 | m0nkey_b0y | from? |
| 17:00:22 | Doughecka | http://www.artemisgames.com/bz/people/ |
| 17:00:31 | m0nkey_b0y | haha |
| 17:00:43 | m0nkey_b0y | uhhh...monkey shy :) |
| 17:00:43 | Cell | does the licence allow selling extended bzflagversions, just dont have the concentration to read the licence |
| 17:00:53 | captain_proton | Cell: depends |
| 17:00:55 | Patlabor221 | doug mail me all the picture URLs then I'll do them all at the same time |
| 17:01:04 | captain_proton | Cell: you can charge some amount of money for redistribution |
| 17:01:06 | Doughecka | my url? |
| 17:01:26 | Patlabor221 | Doughecka: all the ones that you get |
| 17:01:27 | captain_proton | as in say, the cost of a cd |
| 17:01:44 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 17:01:48 | captain_proton | Cell: however, if you wish to really sell it, you have to take that up with riker |
| 17:01:53 | Doughecka | of widget and captainptoton? |
| 17:01:59 | Cell | image link does not work |
| 17:02:01 | captain_proton | crs is pretty must against commercial versions, so i doubt it would happen |
| 17:02:06 | Cell | k |
| 17:02:10 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: nice description ;) |
| 17:02:29 | captain_proton | Cell: what would you do to make it worth the cost? |
| 17:02:30 | Patlabor221 | I try :0 |
| 17:02:43 | Cell | if u make it popular it will sell like hell, trust me, and i know how to make it popular in germany |
| 17:03:17 | captain_proton | Cell: but, i mean, it would have to be a LOT improved, because people like free |
| 17:03:43 | Cell | yes i t needs some improvements, but not much |
| 17:04:01 | captain_proton | Cell: then whats the incentive to buy rather than download? |
| 17:04:01 | Cell | it needs some tournament servers with alot of ppl |
| 17:04:20 | Cell | download for free, and buy |
| 17:04:29 | Cell | trust me many ppl buy also |
| 17:04:34 | Cell | f not only download |
| 17:04:35 | Patlabor221 | it needs solutions to the script kiddies and campers |
| 17:04:53 | Cell | yes, thats not easy |
| 17:04:55 | captain_proton | Cell: redhat can pull that off because you get support - but in our case we give a lot of tech support for free |
| 17:05:01 | m0nkey_b0y | doughecks...i link my photo later |
| 17:05:07 | Cell | f but u dont make the source puolic, so |
| 17:05:10 | captain_proton | and its not that big a product |
| 17:05:15 | Doughecka | ok |
| 17:05:24 | Doughecka | could someone email me the bzg file? |
| 17:05:25 | Cell | f only hardcore assembler freaks can cheat |
| 17:05:30 | m0nkey_b0y | bye |
| 17:05:33 | Doughecka | I cant get the cvs program |
| 17:05:35 | Doughecka | cya , |
| 17:05:43 | Patlabor221 | doug go to source forge and browse and get it |
| 17:05:49 | Doughecka | ah |
| 17:05:50 | Doughecka | duh |
| 17:05:55 | Patlabor221 | use brain |
| 17:06:21 | Doughecka | what brain? |
| 17:06:27 | captain_proton | Cell: then you lose a lot of platform independence - we can't provide binaries for all platforms |
| 17:06:49 | Cell | true |
| 17:07:20 | Doughecka | here is my photo!!!! |
| 17:07:20 | Cell | its only top of a head, but looks good |
| 17:07:23 | captain_proton | and people who create cheat clients already have some degree of coding ability - its callous of us to assume they don't know asm |
| 17:07:24 | Doughecka | http://bluegrass.net/~tad/me.jpg |
| 17:07:33 | Doughecka | look and post it.. |
| 17:07:36 | Patlabor221 | Doughecka: mail them to me |
| 17:07:46 | Patlabor221 | I don't want to upade the page now |
| 17:07:50 | Doughecka | ah |
| 17:07:53 | bryjen | wounld't distributing binaries and not providing source violate the license ? |
| 17:07:59 | Patlabor221 | big time |
| 17:08:04 | captain_proton | bryjen: yes, it would |
| 17:08:06 | Cell | i have a camera here, do u want me to show u a photo of me? |
| 17:08:15 | captain_proton | bryjen: but not if riker relicences it for a specific version |
| 17:08:36 | Doughecka | Cell: sure |
| 17:08:38 | Cell | a snapshot |
| 17:08:44 | captain_proton | the tree.h stuff would need to be rewritten for a commercial-only release of 1.8 |
| 17:08:48 | captain_proton | since we do not own copyright on it |
| 17:08:58 | Cell | k i make it 3 min |
| 17:09:40 | captain_proton | but as i said, its up to tim, and tim listens to crs |
| 17:09:43 | bryjen | and with the current stuff , with the authority on the client end, you can still do man-in-the middle hacks on the network dat stream w/o touching the client |
| 17:10:12 | captain_proton | bryjen: that too |
| 17:11:37 | captain_proton | in the end i think karma will be a nice balance to the technical measures we come up with |
| 17:11:55 | Doughecka | yea |
| 17:13:27 | captain_proton | E-Mamil? |
| 17:14:21 | Patlabor221 | is that like an intertenet based mamal? |
| 17:14:55 | Doughecka | eats electrons |
| 17:15:15 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: its on your page |
| 17:16:02 | Widget | is back (gone 00:22:00) |
| 17:16:27 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 17:16:33 | captain_proton | time to come up with a fix for this burrow madness |
| 17:16:39 | Cell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/lub.jpg |
| 17:17:03 | Cell | its a liitle bit shit cause i had to hold the camera and click on capture at once |
| 17:17:20 | Doughecka | lol |
| 17:17:34 | Widget | Doughecka: So where's your picture? |
| 17:17:46 | Doughecka | umm |
| 17:17:52 | Doughecka | http://bluegrass.net/~tad/me.jpg |
| 17:17:54 | Cell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/lub.jpg |
| 17:17:58 | Cell | here |
| 17:18:12 | Cell | i try another one, but camera is heavy |
| 17:18:16 | Cell | old |
| 17:18:28 | Widget | Doughecka: That just says TEMP and has a smily face. |
| 17:18:42 | Doughecka | yup\ |
| 17:18:43 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 17:18:46 | Doughecka | lol |
| 17:18:51 | Widget | Doughecka: So give your real picture. |
| 17:18:51 | [TeA] | lalalala |
| 17:18:53 | Doughecka | I am trying to find a photo |
| 17:18:57 | [TeA] | widget and tad hi |
| 17:19:00 | Widget | [TeA]: You too. |
| 17:19:04 | Widget | [TeA]: hihihi |
| 17:19:10 | Widget | [TeA]: Post up a picture of yourself. |
| 17:19:17 | [TeA] | ? |
| 17:19:18 | [TeA] | were |
| 17:19:24 | captain_proton | windexes the monitor |
| 17:19:29 | captain_proton | [TeA]: give the URL to Patlabor221 |
| 17:19:35 | Widget | [TeA]: http://www.artemisgames.com/bz/people/ |
| 17:19:46 | captain_proton | Cell: put on a shirt |
| 17:20:45 | Cell | k |
| 17:20:55 | Cell | but its super weather here |
| 17:21:20 | Patlabor221 | das uber weather? |
| 17:21:49 | Patlabor221 | someone mail me all the picture URLs I am not in a positon to save them from here right now |
| 17:21:56 | Patlabor221 | things are making beeping noised |
| 17:22:07 | Widget | Patlabor221: Weather is das Wetter. |
| 17:24:58 | captain_proton | Cell: it can't be hotter than here |
| 17:25:05 | captain_proton | perhaps more humid, but not hotter |
| 17:25:19 | Patlabor221 | how hot is it there? |
| 17:25:20 | Cell | ??? |
| 17:25:21 | captain_proton | beeps at Patlabor221 |
| 17:25:26 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: about 97 |
| 17:25:29 | Patlabor221 | wus |
| 17:25:53 | Patlabor221 | whats the hotest it's ever goten there? |
| 17:25:59 | Cell | i make a better one with shirt just wait |
| 17:26:06 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thats just outside |
| 17:26:13 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: its at least 105 inside my room |
| 17:26:18 | Widget | Meanwhile, here, it's still 9º. |
| 17:26:23 | Patlabor221 | one word "fan" |
| 17:26:25 | Widget | C. |
| 17:26:37 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i've got a fan |
| 17:26:48 | Patlabor221 | we get 100+ usualy |
| 17:26:55 | Patlabor221 | inside it's nasty |
| 17:27:01 | Patlabor221 | that's why I got a window AC |
| 17:27:54 | captain_proton | goes to grab another coke |
| 17:30:06 | captain_proton | mmmm |
| 17:30:19 | captain_proton | so - how to solve the burrow problem? |
| 17:31:19 | [TeA] | [ult] |
| 17:31:48 | captain_proton | Widget: i'm so sad. i never found a go parlor |
| 17:35:59 | Widget | captain_proton: In Japan? Wow. |
| 17:36:12 | Widget | captain_proton: At least, you must have gotten a genuine kaya wood board. |
| 17:36:20 | captain_proton | yokohama = too businessy |
| 17:37:14 | Widget | captain_proton: What do the captains of industry do for fun, then? |
| 17:37:27 | Cell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/lub2.jpg |
| 17:37:38 | Cell | made one with shirt |
| 17:37:38 | captain_proton | Widget: hmm - there was an amusement park of sorts |
| 17:37:52 | captain_proton | Widget: i imagine mostly go to tokyo |
| 17:38:08 | Widget | captain_proton: It's the same city! |
| 17:38:16 | captain_proton | Widget: not really |
| 17:38:42 | Widget | Same as Greenwich is part of London. |
| 17:38:58 | Widget | I got my housing assignment from LSE last week. |
| 17:39:00 | captain_proton | Widget: its part of the tokyo area, but not a part of tokyo |
| 17:39:07 | Widget | I shall be living in Covent Gardens. |
| 17:39:21 | Widget | captain_proton: It's in the metropolitan area. The whole city is Tokyo-Yokohama. |
| 17:39:35 | captain_proton | Widget: plus a good deal of other places |
| 17:39:53 | captain_proton | so i shall say 'hop on the train into tokyo proper' |
| 17:40:13 | Widget | I can't believe there wasn't a single go parlour in all of Yokohama. |
| 17:40:45 | captain_proton | Widget: none that the conceirge knew about |
| 17:41:10 | captain_proton | mostly big hotels/conference/convention centers |
| 17:41:24 | Widget | You should have just gone out one day and tried to find one. |
| 17:41:44 | Widget | Use Babelfish to translate "Where can I play go?", write it on a card, and wave it around- |
| 17:42:01 | Doughecka | lol |
| 17:42:25 | captain_proton | Widget: i did watch some tournament on tv |
| 17:42:37 | Widget | captain_proton: Oooh, lucky. |
| 17:42:45 | captain_proton | no clue which title |
| 17:43:02 | Widget | BRB. |
| 17:43:05 | Widget | is away: Breakfast. |
| 17:44:27 | captain_proton | i'm off |
| 17:47:11 | [TeA] | hmmmmm |
| 17:59:10 | Patlabor221 | off the see the real world |
| 17:59:14 | Patlabor221 | see ya all ater |
| 17:59:16 | Patlabor221 | later even |
| 17:59:22 | Doughecka | cya |
| 18:25:06 | Widget | hihihi |
| 18:25:18 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:25:18 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: 2 | Green: 3 players, score: -2 | |
| 18:26:47 | Doughecka | Widget: ! |
| 18:26:55 | Doughecka | check out my new team logo |
| 18:27:05 | [TeA] | Doughecka ? |
| 18:28:37 | Doughecka | yah |
| 18:34:25 | Widget | Hougdecka. |
| 18:36:20 | Doughecka | Widget |
| 18:36:25 | Doughecka | er |
| 18:36:42 | Doughecka | Gidwig |
| 18:36:44 | Widget | Doughecka: ski offered to play us on Monday. |
| 18:36:51 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 18:36:52 | Doughecka | good... |
| 18:36:57 | Widget | Doughecka: Zig and I have already agreed. jh is probably coming too. |
| 18:37:03 | Doughecka | yea.... |
| 18:37:05 | Widget | Doughecka: So, we'll see you on Monday, OK? |
| 18:37:10 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 18:37:13 | Widget | (It will be Tuesday for me, but Monday UTC) |
| 18:37:15 | Doughecka | what team is it? |
| 18:37:57 | Doughecka | what team is it? |
| 18:37:58 | Doughecka | ult? |
| 18:38:17 | Widget | bz |
| 18:38:21 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 18:38:32 | Doughecka | I dont know, sunday is the best time for us |
| 18:38:36 | Widget | Oh, yah. |
| 18:38:40 | Widget | That's what I meant. |
| 18:38:41 | Doughecka | wekk days are bad times to play... |
| 18:38:46 | Widget | We'll be playing you Sunday 24 UTC. |
| 18:38:50 | Doughecka | oh |
| 18:38:59 | Doughecka | well, I I can get players, we can play... |
| 18:39:06 | Doughecka | if... |
| 18:39:33 | Widget | ski is coming. I suppose you are too. |
| 18:39:41 | Doughecka | I hope... |
| 18:39:45 | Widget | So find someone else. Maybe Schwartzhund. |
| 18:39:52 | Doughecka | ? |
| 18:40:09 | Widget | Er.. Schwarzhund. |
| 18:40:13 | Widget | Blackhound. |
| 18:40:15 | Doughecka | ah |
| 18:40:31 | Doughecka | do you like my new logo? |
| 18:40:47 | Widget | Yes. |
| 18:51:27 | [TeA] | widget ? |
| 18:51:35 | Doughecka | iLLf8d: check out the forums on bzflag.org/league |
| 18:52:01 | iLLf8d | will do |
| 18:52:54 | Widget | [TeA] ? |
| 18:58:28 | iLLf8d | hmm I got mail from some guy named firewolf |
| 18:58:35 | Widget | [TeA]: Go get a picture of yourself, and post it up. http://www.artemisgames.com/bz/people |
| 18:58:41 | iLLf8d | anyone know if thats team mail? |
| 18:58:44 | Widget | iLLf8d: Go get a picture of yourself, and post it up. http://www.artemisgames.com/bz/people |
| 18:59:00 | Widget | iLLf8d: What is team mail? |
| 19:00:12 | iLLf8d | bzmail on the league page |
| 19:00:23 | Widget | To mail a team... |
| 19:00:25 | Doughecka | lick my logo iLLf8d |
| 19:00:28 | Doughecka | like? |
| 19:00:29 | iLLf8d | thinks it went to the whole team i'll mention it to proton |
| 19:00:34 | iLLf8d | whose logo? |
| 19:00:34 | Widget | Go to teams, click on the team, and click on Send a BZMessage. |
| 19:00:37 | Doughecka | mine |
| 19:00:46 | iLLf8d | you firestorm? |
| 19:00:51 | Doughecka | no |
| 19:00:54 | Doughecka | I am breadhat |
| 19:00:56 | iLLf8d | wolf whatever heh |
| 19:00:57 | Widget | iLLf8d: Post a picture of yourself somewhere so Patlabor221 can put it up at http://www.artemisgames.com/bz/people |
| 19:01:10 | iLLf8d | theres only 3 photos there |
| 19:01:13 | iLLf8d | and 2 won't load |
| 19:01:17 | Widget | Which two? |
| 19:01:21 | iLLf8d | you post yours yet widge |
| 19:01:26 | Widget | Patlabor's is only of his forehead. |
| 19:01:30 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 19:01:31 | Widget | Well, I showed some people the photo. |
| 19:01:35 | iLLf8d | and jpablos is missing |
| 19:01:40 | Widget | But I donnae want to have it posted on that website. |
| 19:01:46 | Widget | jpablo's was linked incorrectly. |
| 19:01:47 | iLLf8d | captain protons is apathys isn't it? |
| 19:01:54 | Widget | No. |
| 19:01:59 | Widget | That's really captain_proton. |
| 19:02:53 | Widget | Doughecka has my picture. |
| 19:02:56 | Widget | A very bad one. |
| 19:02:59 | Widget | The only one I could find. |
| 19:03:18 | Doughecka | heh |
| 19:03:25 | Widget | iLLf8d: So where's yours? |
| 19:05:03 | Widget | iLLf8d: Hellooooooooo? |
| 19:07:05 | Widget | He's gone. :( |
| 19:07:13 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org |
| 19:07:16 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org |
| 19:07:20 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:07:20 | bzbot | Red: 1 players, score: -4 | Green: 2 players, score: 4 | |
| 19:07:26 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 19:07:26 | bzbot | Gen. Rommel (Green):-3 (1 wins, 4 losses). Lemmingz (Green):0 (8 wins, 8 losses). Yun (Red):-26 (16 wins, 42 losses). |
| 19:14:41 | Gorb | hi |
| 19:15:04 | Gorb | i love bzflag |
| 19:19:34 | Gorb | i also love opneGL |
| 19:19:41 | Gorb | äh openGL |
| 19:21:22 | Gorb | i read the source of the openGL API from silicon graphics |
| 19:21:33 | Gorb | its very cool |
| 19:21:53 | Gorb | especially clipping |
| 19:21:58 | Gorb | way to fast |
| 19:22:47 | Gorb | and its so old, and still the best |
| 19:23:32 | Gorb | thats waht i and openGL have in common |
| 19:23:37 | Gorb | we are just the best |
| 19:24:04 | Gorb | just wanted to mention that |
| 19:24:32 | iLLf8d | no i'm here |
| 19:24:34 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 19:24:41 | Gorb | what? |
| 19:26:28 | Gorb | hallo america |
| 19:26:31 | iLLf8d | responding to widge |
| 19:26:35 | iLLf8d | before you came in |
| 19:26:47 | Gorb | still alive |
| 19:27:24 | captain_proton | wakes up |
| 19:27:36 | Gorb | never it bread it leads to cancer |
| 19:27:43 | Gorb | eat |
| 19:27:48 | Gorb | dont eat |
| 19:27:55 | captain_proton | everything leads to cancer |
| 19:28:03 | Gorb | :-) |
| 19:28:14 | Gorb | yes, butnot that fast |
| 19:28:15 | captain_proton | and so therefore, i'll eat whatever i want |
| 19:28:21 | Gorb | k |
| 19:28:34 | Gorb | but dont smoke |
| 19:28:56 | captain_proton | of course not - i do enjoy being able to breathe |
| 19:29:12 | Gorb | :-) |
| 19:29:37 | Gorb | and dont look to long into pc monitor |
| 19:29:42 | captain_proton | haha |
| 19:29:51 | Gorb | it dameges your eyes |
| 19:30:01 | captain_proton | supposedly |
| 19:30:10 | captain_proton | with my genes i should have been blind several years ago |
| 19:30:31 | captain_proton | but hey - i've made it this far, so... |
| 19:30:41 | Gorb | well |
| 19:31:01 | Gorb | im happy about that |
| 19:31:01 | Doughecka | lo |
| 19:31:02 | Doughecka | lol |
| 19:32:12 | Gorb | why is science still in stone age where are the super smart kids |
| 19:32:27 | captain_proton | they're all playing BZFlag |
| 19:32:48 | Doughecka | cuz me cant speel or talc propoly |
| 19:32:48 | Gorb | then they are really smart |
| 19:32:58 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 19:33:24 | Gorb | why must we still die? |
| 19:33:52 | Gorb | so we will not see the best bzflag versions |
| 19:34:10 | Doughecka | yah |
| 19:34:22 | captain_proton | shrugs |
| 19:35:08 | Gorb | who is gona continue with bzflag development after u all are gone |
| 19:35:17 | Doughecka | me |
| 19:35:32 | Doughecka | LOL!!! |
| 19:35:38 | captain_proton | who says that -i- am going to die? |
| 19:35:44 | Gorb | ok then the game will live for ever |
| 19:35:50 | captain_proton | not part of my plan |
| 19:36:05 | Gorb | thats what i wanted to hear |
| 19:36:09 | captain_proton | then again, past the middle of next week i don't really have a plan |
| 19:36:16 | Doughecka | heh |
| 19:36:36 | Gorb | just eat telomerase |
| 19:36:43 | jzaun | Just so 1.8 is out before the time come for you to move on captain_proton. |
| 19:36:56 | Doughecka | hehe |
| 19:37:08 | Doughecka | I dont even know programming |
| 19:37:23 | Gorb | it prevents chromosoms to get smaller at their ends |
| 19:37:34 | Doughecka | hrm |
| 19:38:53 | Doughecka | eats goat skin |
| 19:38:55 | captain_proton | jzaun: i'm not going to move on before 1.8 is out |
| 19:39:14 | captain_proton | 1.8 is my baby |
| 19:39:24 | Doughecka | lol |
| 19:39:31 | jzaun | captain_proton: thank goodness.... does no plans past the middle of next week meen 1.8 will be out by then :-D |
| 19:39:41 | captain_proton | i didn't say no plans at all |
| 19:39:51 | captain_proton | just no specific plan |
| 19:39:56 | captain_proton | 1.8, don't die - thats as far as it goes |
| 19:39:56 | jzaun | ooohhhh, ok |
| 19:40:09 | Cell | u do all the difficult development + time consuming for free |
| 19:40:15 | Cell | f u must be crazy |
| 19:40:33 | captain_proton | Cell: why? i enjoy it |
| 19:40:49 | captain_proton | and since nobody seems to want to hire me, i've got some free time |
| 19:40:53 | Cell | really? The u must be even more crazy |
| 19:40:53 | jzaun | captain_proton: I wish there was some little thing I could do to help out with 1.8 and get involved... any ideas? |
| 19:41:03 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:41:08 | Doughecka | I can crayon |
| 19:41:11 | jzaun | captain_proton: I'm in that boat too... no one wants to hire me either |
| 19:41:14 | captain_proton | jzaun: maybe get started by hacking at the interface? |
| 19:41:33 | Cell | i hire myself |
| 19:41:43 | captain_proton | Cell: must pay well |
| 19:41:46 | Cell | just make a firm and u are the ceo |
| 19:42:13 | captain_proton | ponders soliciting to onesself |
| 19:42:23 | jzaun | captain_proton: Could aways package up 1.8 and sell shrink wrap versions to the masses |
| 19:42:31 | Doughecka | lol |
| 19:42:48 | captain_proton | jzaun: possible - right now we're looking to sell some tshirts to benefit the project |
| 19:43:00 | Doughecka | ooh |
| 19:43:06 | jzaun | captain_proton: cool, I'll buy one |
| 19:43:07 | Cell | where can i buy it |
| 19:43:12 | Doughecka | have a booth at mac world? |
| 19:43:26 | captain_proton | we don't even have a design yet |
| 19:43:34 | captain_proton | we need to organize an art contest for it |
| 19:43:43 | Cell | nice idea |
| 19:43:50 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:43:53 | jzaun | captain_proton: back to the interface... has there be descustion on it? |
| 19:44:05 | Doughecka | how about my logo as a t-shirt? |
| 19:44:06 | captain_proton | jzaun: no, not really |
| 19:44:32 | captain_proton | jzaun: the xml formats for it all are fairly simple though - especially if you know about some of the concepts regarding opengl (triangle strips, etc) |
| 19:44:36 | Cell | what is ur logo |
| 19:44:44 | Doughecka | on the forum |
| 19:44:50 | Doughecka | bzflag.org/league |
| 19:44:55 | captain_proton | Doughecka: exact link |
| 19:44:59 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:45:15 | Doughecka | heckamangroup.com/tankhi.gif |
| 19:46:08 | captain_proton | we'd be silk-screening, not printing |
| 19:46:08 | Doughecka | http://bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=teaminfo&id=47&sessionid=2197978d7e0d636024d50d65af84f4e1 |
| 19:46:09 | jzaun | captain_proton: I know very little about 3D, but I do know what geometric shapes are :-) |
| 19:46:14 | Cell | looks good |
| 19:46:21 | captain_proton | which means limited number of colors, preferably vector graphics |
| 19:46:28 | Doughecka | yah |
| 19:46:31 | Doughecka | I can do that |
| 19:46:41 | Doughecka | my dad is a pro at that kind of stuff |
| 19:46:43 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 19:46:48 | Doughecka | he can teach me... |
| 19:47:04 | Cell | do it with flash |
| 19:47:10 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:47:14 | Doughecka | I have live motion |
| 19:47:18 | Doughecka | I can do it... |
| 19:47:18 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 19:47:24 | Doughecka | I have to get time on the mac though |
| 19:48:06 | captain_proton | Cell: i need to check, but i think the only formats we can really use are adobe illustrator or .sfv |
| 19:48:08 | captain_proton | err |
| 19:48:10 | captain_proton | .svg |
| 19:48:26 | Doughecka | I have adobe illustrator |
| 19:48:29 | Cell | k |
| 19:48:33 | Doughecka | I made that logo in it |
| 19:49:04 | Cell | flahs exports to svg |
| 19:49:13 | Doughecka | ah |
| 19:49:13 | Doughecka | ok |
| 19:49:21 | Doughecka | so does live motion |
| 19:49:31 | Cell | k |
| 19:52:06 | captain_proton | then of course we run into the debate about what to do with the proceeds |
| 19:52:17 | jzaun | you get them :-) |
| 19:52:30 | captain_proton | hey i won't argue with that but there may be better uses |
| 19:52:36 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:52:43 | captain_proton | like a rackspace league server with mucho bandwidth |
| 19:52:50 | Doughecka | if you cant find out what to do with it, just send it to me |
| 19:52:55 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 19:53:08 | Doughecka | captain_proton: very good idea |
| 19:53:19 | Doughecka | but host like, 5 servers onit |
| 19:53:33 | Doughecka | with rotating maps and stuff |
| 19:53:39 | Doughecka | is that possible? |
| 19:53:45 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 19:53:49 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:53:57 | captain_proton | but we'd want to do some QoS stuff for the league server |
| 19:54:02 | Widget | Nooooooooo! |
| 19:54:05 | Widget | Where did Zig go? |
| 19:54:10 | Doughecka | QoS? |
| 19:54:16 | captain_proton | quality of service |
| 19:54:22 | Doughecka | ah |
| 19:54:26 | captain_proton | basically make it so when a game is being played, it has priority on the pipe |
| 19:54:32 | Doughecka | yea |
| 19:54:40 | Doughecka | or quit the other games |
| 19:54:46 | Doughecka | er servers... |
| 19:54:47 | captain_proton | no need to do that |
| 19:54:49 | Doughecka | oh |
| 19:54:55 | captain_proton | just make the server slower for them |
| 19:55:01 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:55:18 | Doughecka | but if you have mucho bandwidth, you wont have to do that |
| 19:55:20 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 19:55:43 | Cell | what was the best bot u have ever played with or against? |
| 19:55:49 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:55:49 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:55:51 | | Doughecka? |
| 19:55:51 | Doughecka | ibot |
| 19:55:57 | captain_proton | what kind of bot? |
| 19:55:57 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 19:56:03 | Cell | enemy |
| 19:56:03 | Doughecka | quake bots are good |
| 19:56:10 | Cell | bzflag bots |
| 19:56:13 | Doughecka | oh |
| 19:56:15 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:56:24 | captain_proton | i think chestal's ducati bot (that he had running for a week or so) |
| 19:56:27 | Doughecka | Cell: code up some bots for bzflag |
| 19:56:36 | Doughecka | we would like it very much... |
| 19:56:43 | captain_proton | specifically separate from the executable |
| 19:56:45 | captain_proton | libbzflag =) |
| 19:56:51 | Doughecka | yah |
| 19:56:56 | Cell | yes i planned so |
| 19:57:01 | captain_proton | but it needs to be fair - can't create a cheating bot |
| 19:57:09 | Doughecka | hehe |
| 19:57:21 | Cell | of course fair, its no fun otherwise |
| 19:57:35 | captain_proton | wow i never thought i'd hear you say that |
| 19:57:39 | Doughecka | lol |
| 19:58:00 | Cell | just want to see how the best bzflag payers loose against an army of bots |
| 19:58:09 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 19:58:09 | Doughecka | yea |
| 19:58:12 | captain_proton | army is no fun |
| 19:58:15 | Doughecka | a ducati battle |
| 19:58:18 | Doughecka | 3x4 |
| 19:58:21 | captain_proton | more enjoyable to watch them lose against 1 bot ;) |
| 19:58:22 | Doughecka | 3 bots |
| 19:58:23 | Doughecka | 4 humans |
| 19:58:29 | Chestal | problem is not the bot themselves, but the API |
| 19:58:30 | Cell | yes ducati is best for bots no flags |
| 19:58:31 | Doughecka | captain_proton: perfect... |
| 19:58:51 | Doughecka | Chestal: can you fire up a bot for ducati? |
| 19:58:52 | captain_proton | Cell: but i really want to see a bot that can handle jumping servers - specifically, the decks |
| 19:58:59 | Doughecka | your code doe snot compile on windows |
| 19:59:10 | Chestal | Dough: I have no code which is ready to run here |
| 19:59:13 | Cell | that would be difficult |
| 19:59:29 | Doughecka | ah |
| 19:59:39 | Doughecka | Cell: chestal has code for downloading |
| 19:59:46 | Doughecka | umm |
| 19:59:51 | Doughecka | I dunno what the link is... |
| 19:59:59 | Cell | no not yet |
| 20:00:07 | Chestal | well, yes, bu tit's useless |
| 20:00:17 | Doughecka | ah |
| 20:00:22 | Chestal | we don't need hacked bots, but we must think of how to change bzflag to make writing bots easy |
| 20:00:29 | Doughecka | yea |
| 20:00:39 | Doughecka | exactly |
| 20:00:42 | Chestal | and in a way that they cannot even cheat |
| 20:00:43 | captain_proton | Cell: a worthy challenge, no? |
| 20:00:58 | Cell | yes |
| 20:01:00 | Chestal | although there are some 'legal' actions which might stillbe considered cheating |
| 20:01:14 | Doughecka | like... |
| 20:01:17 | Chestal | bots can do moves which are just not possible for humans |
| 20:01:25 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 20:01:29 | Doughecka | like what? |
| 20:01:32 | Doughecka | click faster? |
| 20:01:36 | Cell | thats true, cause they use the data not the pictures |
| 20:01:41 | Chestal | for example to increase shot speed withotu really moving, move forward at full speed, shoot, stand still all within 1/100s |
| 20:01:53 | Doughecka | Chestal: cool idea |
| 20:01:55 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 20:01:58 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 20:02:01 | captain_proton | Chestal: acceleration is built in already |
| 20:02:05 | Chestal | and they might have more accurate information,a human has to deduce this from 3D view / radar |
| 20:02:08 | captain_proton | Chestal: there's a maximum acceleration for humans |
| 20:02:18 | Doughecka | well |
| 20:02:23 | Chestal | captain: no server uses it |
| 20:02:29 | captain_proton | Chestal: every server uses it |
| 20:02:30 | Doughecka | make the bot see only the stuff on radar and 3d view |
| 20:02:32 | captain_proton | Chestal: its a built-in constant |
| 20:02:40 | captain_proton | just nobody sets it differently |
| 20:02:56 | Chestal | captain: hmm, isn't this the serevr-side -a setting? |
| 20:02:59 | Cell | that would need a object recognition algo, not easy |
| 20:03:05 | Doughecka | no no |
| 20:03:07 | captain_proton | Chestal: that overrides the default |
| 20:03:09 | Chestal | withotu setting it, it's unlimited AFAIK |
| 20:03:14 | Doughecka | just restrick its data to only the front view |
| 20:03:15 | captain_proton | Chestal: nope - check global.h |
| 20:04:29 | Widget | hihihi |
| 20:04:37 | Doughecka | Widget: hihihi |
| 20:04:38 | captain_proton | Doughecka: what about radar? |
| 20:04:57 | Doughecka | have the radar have static in it |
| 20:04:59 | Chestal | proton: um, for 1.8? |
| 20:05:00 | Doughecka | like false info |
| 20:05:10 | Cell | i train my bot in real games, use a neuronal network, see how far i come |
| 20:05:12 | captain_proton | Chestal: for either |
| 20:05:16 | Doughecka | like tanks randomly off to teh side |
| 20:05:33 | Doughecka | Cell: make a tennis player play bzflag |
| 20:05:35 | Chestal | cannot find it, what's it called? |
| 20:05:49 | captain_proton | Chestal: hang on lemme check |
| 20:06:12 | Cell | :-) |
| 20:06:49 | captain_proton | hmm perhaps i was wrong |
| 20:06:55 | captain_proton | its specified for momentum, etc |
| 20:07:08 | captain_proton | might be magiced inside the code itself |
| 20:07:13 | Chestal | I checked |
| 20:07:24 | Chestal | if no -a option, accelerations are set to 0, meaning unlimited |
| 20:07:42 | Chestal | I once played with medium acceleration settings, it was awful ;-) |
| 20:07:57 | captain_proton | eww |
| 20:08:01 | Chestal | I checked for 1.7, but I don't think this part has changed very much |
| 20:08:04 | captain_proton | we need to change that to not be unlimited |
| 20:08:16 | Chestal | unlimited is ok |
| 20:08:19 | Chestal | or a _very_ big number |
| 20:08:28 | Chestal | server admin can set it anyway |
| 20:08:30 | captain_proton | not for bots though |
| 20:08:38 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 20:08:46 | Widget | What is acceleration measured in? |
| 20:08:53 | Chestal | depdnign on your input device you can accelerate very fast, too |
| 20:08:58 | captain_proton | Widget: meters /s/s |
| 20:09:10 | Doughecka | Chestal: like a joystick |
| 20:09:12 | Chestal | or 1/s/s for angular velocity |
| 20:09:17 | Widget | Like a keyboard. |
| 20:09:29 | Doughecka | like a keyboard... |
| 20:09:35 | Doughecka | exactly |
| 20:09:43 | Chestal | it's jsut that a bot can me much more accurate in all things, if it is notlimited |
| 20:09:57 | Doughecka | ah |
| 20:10:04 | Doughecka | just make it think slower of something |
| 20:10:11 | Doughecka | or/of |
| 20:10:13 | Cell | but it cant think |
| 20:10:22 | Chestal | of course we could just feed the rendered image to the bot ;-) |
| 20:10:26 | Doughecka | yea |
| 20:10:27 | Cell | so let him some advantages |
| 20:10:32 | Chestal | that would be fair, but a little overkill |
| 20:10:44 | Doughecka | and have it sit for an hour decode the image |
| 20:10:47 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 20:10:49 | Widget | Heehee. |
| 20:10:49 | Cell | that would be to time consuming |
| 20:10:52 | Chestal | whoever played my dumb bots on ducati some months ago, knows how deadly even a dumb botcan be |
| 20:10:59 | Doughecka | yea |
| 20:11:05 | Widget | Can we play them again? |
| 20:11:10 | Doughecka | so you dont have a bot binary anywhere? |
| 20:11:12 | Chestal | in a free for all match with severalplayers, the bot would always win |
| 20:11:16 | Doughecka | I would like to play the, again |
| 20:11:26 | Widget | Me too. |
| 20:11:31 | Chestal | I don't think so, I messed up my bot tree with a cvs update |
| 20:11:33 | Widget | Chestal: Do you still have it? |
| 20:11:34 | Widget | Oh. |
| 20:11:34 | Doughecka | *sniff* |
| 20:11:38 | Widget | cries. |
| 20:11:52 | Doughecka | the code is in on a webserver somewhere |
| 20:11:55 | Doughecka | right? |
| 20:11:56 | Cell | what was the bots tactic |
| 20:12:00 | Chestal | ftp server, yes |
| 20:12:01 | captain_proton | Chestal: it was deadly on ducati - but put it in a situation with more than 2 shots, flags, or jumping, and it falls apart |
| 20:12:03 | Doughecka | bad bot |
| 20:12:28 | Chestal | proton: well, I wrote it for ducati, it should work quite well on a random map with jumping, too |
| 20:12:30 | Chestal | even more shots |
| 20:12:36 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 20:12:41 | Widget | Doughecka: Go get the bot and run it. |
| 20:12:41 | Doughecka | it has jumping support? |
| 20:12:44 | Chestal | Cell: stand still, select a target,project target's course and shoot |
| 20:12:47 | Doughecka | Widget: windows |
| 20:12:59 | Widget | Doughecka: What is the FTP server? |
| 20:13:00 | Cell | k |
| 20:13:01 | Chestal | Cell: check all shots if it can be hit by them, if so, evade as far as necessary only |
| 20:13:03 | Doughecka | dunno |
| 20:13:15 | Chestal | cell: it could also use rico, both defensive and offensive |
| 20:13:17 | Doughecka | Widget: ask chestal |
| 20:13:23 | Widget | Chestal: What is the FTP server? |
| 20:13:25 | Chestal | the ofensive rico was nasty |
| 20:13:35 | Chestal | ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/user/thilo/ |
| 20:13:37 | Widget | I can imagine. |
| 20:13:39 | Doughecka | its was with other stuff too |
| 20:13:44 | Cell | sounds good |
| 20:13:52 | Cell | and easy |
| 20:13:58 | Chestal | but it was jsut a hacke dpatch for 1.7e4 or something |
| 20:14:04 | Doughecka | yea |
| 20:14:09 | Doughecka | but wont compile on windows |
| 20:14:26 | Chestal | nothing compiled on windows :-) |
| 20:14:30 | Doughecka | lol |
| 20:14:47 | Chestal | at least VC++ 7.0 is less broken |
| 20:14:56 | Doughecka | less borken? |
| 20:14:59 | Cell | ? |
| 20:15:01 | Doughecka | borken... |
| 20:15:04 | Doughecka | broken? |
| 20:15:07 | Chestal | with regard tothe C++ standard |
| 20:15:11 | Doughecka | ah |
| 20:15:13 | Doughecka | lol |
| 20:15:28 | Chestal | well, if it doesn't compile comforming C++ programs, it's broken |
| 20:15:31 | captain_proton | which of course breaks the tree, since we have all these workarounds in #ifdef (WIN32) |
| 20:15:40 | Doughecka | hehe |
| 20:15:49 | Chestal | not that 1.7 code is conforming, but 1.8 is clsoe |
| 20:15:49 | Cell | i saw that |
| 20:16:10 | Doughecka | 1.8 does not cmompile |
| 20:16:17 | Doughecka | it needs oog stuff |
| 20:16:20 | Doughecka | ogg* |
| 20:16:25 | Doughecka | whatever |
| 20:16:36 | Cell | oog? |
| 20:16:42 | Doughecka | yah |
| 20:16:42 | captain_proton | yes, ogg dependencies on win32 need to be fixed up (maybe include headers?) |
| 20:16:46 | Doughecka | vorbis |
| 20:16:46 | captain_proton | ogg, not oog |
| 20:16:50 | Widget | What is the command to get 1.7 CVS again? I keep forgetting. |
| 20:16:59 | captain_proton | co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 20:17:01 | Doughecka | write it don |
| 20:17:15 | Widget | OK. |
| 20:17:17 | Widget | Thanks. |
| 20:17:39 | captain_proton | 1.7 is dead anyways - why get the code? |
| 20:17:47 | Widget | To run the bot. |
| 20:17:57 | captain_proton | ohh - good luck |
| 20:18:06 | captain_proton | bot as in -solo? because those suck |
| 20:18:16 | Widget | captain_proton: Chestal's bot. |
| 20:18:20 | Doughecka | hehe |
| 20:18:29 | Doughecka | -solo is cool with about 20 of them |
| 20:18:32 | captain_proton | Widget: he has working code for that? |
| 20:18:39 | Doughecka | yes |
| 20:18:45 | captain_proton | Doughecka: no, even then |
| 20:18:47 | Doughecka | somewhere |
| 20:19:58 | Widget | ftp://ftp.unix-ag.org/user/thilo/ |
| 20:21:05 | Widget | captain_proton: Try it out. |
| 20:21:18 | captain_proton | Widget: i've tried it before |
| 20:21:25 | Doughecka | tried? |
| 20:21:44 | Widget | captain_proton: Chestal's bot? |
| 20:22:09 | Doughecka | why cant you put chestals bot into the game as -solo? |
| 20:22:22 | Widget | captain_proton: Can you run Chestal's bot on ducati 59999? |
| 20:22:30 | Widget | captain_proton: So that I can try playing it? |
| 20:22:31 | captain_proton | Widget: i don't have it anymore |
| 20:22:40 | Doughecka | brb |
| 20:22:41 | captain_proton | i tried it out when he first wrote it |
| 20:23:37 | Widget | captain_proton: How is it? |
| 20:24:03 | captain_proton | Widget: its a good bot - but for ducati only |
| 20:24:17 | Widget | captain_proton: Could you get it and run another copy so I can play? |
| 20:24:46 | captain_proton | Widget: why should I? you have a faster network connection, and can therefore get it faster |
| 20:25:01 | Widget | captain_proton: But how can I run it and play at the same time? |
| 20:25:22 | captain_proton | Widget: background it, start a new client |
| 20:25:47 | Widget | captain_proton: It will still take up the whole screen even if I background it. |
| 20:25:56 | Widget | captain_proton: It opens up a black screen when you start it. |
| 20:25:57 | captain_proton | Widget: run -window then |
| 20:26:18 | Widget | captain_proton: And then...? How do I open up another instance? My mouse will be stuck inside the window. |
| 20:26:30 | captain_proton | start a second x server |
| 20:26:42 | Widget | Sigh... |
| 20:26:51 | Doughecka | did it compile? |
| 20:26:55 | Widget | No. |
| 20:26:58 | Widget | I tried e6 and e4. |
| 20:27:00 | Doughecka | oh |
| 20:27:02 | Doughecka | bah |
| 20:27:04 | Doughecka | then e3? |
| 20:27:07 | Doughecka | e2? |
| 20:27:08 | Doughecka | e1???/ |
| 20:27:10 | Widget | e2. |
| 20:27:13 | Widget | I'll try e2. |
| 20:27:14 | Doughecka | ok |
| 20:27:15 | Doughecka | me too |
| 20:27:24 | Widget | Doughecka: How can you compile it? |
| 20:27:30 | Doughecka | VC++ |
| 20:27:30 | Doughecka | 6 |
| 20:28:00 | Widget | Doughecka: OK. |
| 20:28:03 | Widget | Try compiling it. |
| 20:28:33 | Doughecka | tries to find the VC++ cd |
| 20:29:51 | Doughecka | found the VC++ learing edition |
| 20:29:55 | Doughecka | learning |
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| 20:31:35 | Doughecka | ibot slashdot? |
| 20:31:42 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 20:31:49 | Widget | Damn. |
| 20:31:57 | Widget | Always errors on playing.cxx. |
| 20:32:00 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 20:32:02 | Doughecka | try e1 |
| 20:32:06 | Doughecka | or 1.6 |
| 20:32:30 | Widget | Tried e6. |
| 20:32:38 | Doughecka | no |
| 20:32:40 | Doughecka | 1.6 |
| 20:32:42 | Doughecka | er |
| 20:32:45 | Doughecka | ed |
| 20:32:51 | Widget | You mean d? |
| 20:32:54 | Widget | Nah. |
| 20:32:55 | Doughecka | yah |
| 20:32:58 | Widget | We'll ask Chestal. |
| 20:33:02 | Doughecka | I will try it |
| 20:33:09 | Doughecka | I dont give up like Widget does!!! |
| 20:33:13 | Doughecka | haha |
| 20:33:14 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 20:33:31 | Widget | hihihi, iLLf8d. |
| 20:33:32 | Doughecka | i give up, VC++ installes tooo slow |
| 20:33:36 | Widget | iLLf8d: Where is your picture? |
| 20:33:38 | Doughecka | hihihi iLLf8d |
| 20:33:38 | Widget | Doughecka: Sigh... |
| 20:33:46 | Doughecka | hehe |
| 20:34:03 | iLLf8d | why do you need my picture sheesh |
| 20:34:07 | iLLf8d | you won't even put yours up widge |
| 20:34:08 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:34:20 | Widget | iLLf8d: I would, but Patlabor221 has been gone. |
| 20:34:23 | iLLf8d | figures he's exempt if you are |
| 20:34:23 | captain_proton | Widget: iirc it was an e3 version |
| 20:34:30 | Widget | iLLf8d: And you can't put it up automatically. |
| 20:34:33 | iLLf8d | ah |
| 20:34:33 | Widget | captain_proton: Where can I find e3? |
| 20:34:34 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 20:34:53 | captain_proton | Widget: e3 was cvs for e4 - and there were a LOT of different e3 'versions'/ |
| 20:35:17 | Doughecka | ah |
| 20:35:30 | Widget | captain_proton: So where can I get the proper version that I may replace the files to create Chestal's bot? |
| 20:35:50 | Widget | iLLf8d: Put yours up somewhere. |
| 20:36:06 | iLLf8d | only got a spoof or 2 online |
| 20:36:07 | captain_proton | Widget: try checking out cvs from different times (cvs can retrieve historic versions, but i don't know the syntax) |
| 20:36:41 | Widget | I have no idea as to the proper time. |
| 20:36:50 | Widget | iLLf8d: Where? |
| 20:37:30 | iLLf8d | oh here and there heh |
| 20:37:34 | Doughecka | (beep) |
| 20:37:36 | captain_proton | Widget: i brought back a busload of bean cakes =D |
| 20:38:06 | Widget | iLLf8d: Where!?!? |
| 20:38:20 | iLLf8d | I've only got 2 actually |
| 20:38:28 | iLLf8d | one of me in the matrix and one as a dbz guy |
| 20:38:34 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:38:48 | Widget | OK. |
| 20:38:57 | Widget | Where? |
| 20:40:13 | Cell | dbz? |
| 20:40:28 | Cell | sounds interresting |
| 20:40:29 | Widget | Dragon Ball Z. |
| 20:40:36 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 20:40:42 | Cell | do u think i didi not know that |
| 20:40:43 | Widget | iLLf8d: Give! |
| 20:40:45 | iLLf8d | actually I can't find hte matrix one atm |
| 20:40:54 | Widget | iLLf8d: OK, where is the dbz one? |
| 20:41:08 | Widget | hihihi, Patlabor221. |
| 20:41:10 | Cell | im actually from dbz |
| 20:41:12 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 20:41:19 | Widget | Cell. |
| 20:41:21 | Widget | Perfect Cell. |
| 20:41:25 | Cell | yes |
| 20:41:35 | Patlabor221 | he wasn't allways perfect |
| 20:41:44 | Cell | i know |
| 20:42:13 | Patlabor221 | horible show, too much grunting, good art tho |
| 20:42:19 | Doughecka | lol |
| 20:42:20 | iLLf8d | hey cell |
| 20:42:26 | iLLf8d | got any dbz on vcd? |
| 20:42:32 | Doughecka | dbz? |
| 20:42:33 | captain_proton | woohoo fixed the burrow bug |
| 20:42:36 | captain_proton | well, one of them |
| 20:42:37 | Cell | so can the good guys get it together before cell picks them up one by one |
| 20:42:41 | Widget | captain_proton: The streaks? |
| 20:43:04 | Cell | i ahve all dbz as avi |
| 20:43:08 | captain_proton | Widget: yes |
| 20:43:15 | Cell | each about 25 megs |
| 20:43:16 | Widget | iLLf8d: Where is your photo? |
| 20:44:58 | Cell | i once watched dbz almost 24 hours in arow |
| 20:45:15 | Doughecka | ugh |
| 20:45:37 | Widget | ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤W. |
| 20:45:48 | Patlabor221 | whooot! they broke the second law of thermodynamics! |
| 20:45:49 | Cell | then i thought i could go supersajajin |
| 20:45:55 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ooh |
| 20:46:01 | captain_proton | just like i was making cold the other day? |
| 20:46:17 | Patlabor221 | only in micro envirments |
| 20:46:18 | Widget | Supersäjajin? |
| 20:46:26 | Patlabor221 | don't ask, more grunting |
| 20:46:56 | Cell | super sajajin level1, level2, level3 |
| 20:47:07 | iLLf8d | cell whats your sight addy? |
| 20:47:21 | Patlabor221 | http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992572 |
| 20:47:31 | Cell | sight addy??? |
| 20:47:34 | iLLf8d | website |
| 20:48:18 | Cell | home.in.tum.de/~edelstei |
| 20:48:23 | Cell | why? |
| 20:48:52 | Cell | but F = m*a still holds |
| 20:49:11 | Patlabor221 | yes but that's not thermodymaics |
| 20:49:16 | Cell | i know |
| 20:49:22 | iLLf8d | someone mentioned that you had your patch publically posted wnted to see for myself (cause I mentioned to someone that widge and bzflag were posting a url to it in channel the other day when goofing with it) |
| 20:49:25 | captain_proton | thats not really breaking it |
| 20:49:32 | Patlabor221 | trye |
| 20:49:43 | captain_proton | the second law is 'over time' which still holds true |
| 20:49:51 | Patlabor221 | it's just watchin it be wierd at the lower end of the scale |
| 20:49:55 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:50:10 | captain_proton | statistics rules all |
| 20:50:16 | iLLf8d | hey wheres the english version? |
| 20:50:29 | Patlabor221 | probablity dosn't rule outanyting hapening |
| 20:50:58 | Patlabor221 | in thery an election from me could be in tokyo |
| 20:51:04 | Patlabor221 | but I'm not puting money on it |
| 20:51:26 | Cell | an u hardly speak jap language |
| 20:52:56 | Cell | Patlabor221 san |
| 20:53:21 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure I'd get by |
| 20:53:35 | Cell | yes, why not |
| 20:53:36 | Doughecka | ok |
| 20:53:41 | Doughecka | so how is the bots doing Widget? |
| 21:01:20 | Doughecka | captain_proton: why does bzflag go: |
| 21:01:20 | Doughecka | a, b, c, d, e, e1, e2, e3, e4, e6, e7? |
| 21:01:33 | Doughecka | why not a b c d e f g? |
| 21:01:48 | jzaun | Doughecka: I'm guessing compatability |
| 21:01:56 | Gorb | think its compatibility |
| 21:01:56 | Patlabor221 | and why not 1.7.1 , 1.7.2 |
| 21:01:58 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 21:02:01 | Doughecka | yea |
| 21:02:05 | Patlabor221 | that's how the rest of the world does it |
| 21:02:09 | Doughecka | like apple |
| 21:02:11 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 21:02:20 | Doughecka | Patlabor221: check out the new logo |
| 21:02:23 | Doughecka | on my team page |
| 21:02:29 | Patlabor221 | what new logo? |
| 21:02:34 | Doughecka | for the league team |
| 21:02:43 | Doughecka | bzflag.org/league |
| 21:02:45 | Patlabor221 | what team? |
| 21:02:54 | Doughecka | annililhation |
| 21:03:12 | captain_proton | Doughecka: well, it didn't |
| 21:03:23 | Doughecka | oh |
| 21:03:25 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 21:03:37 | Patlabor221 | a bit booring |
| 21:03:40 | Doughecka | is compiling 1.7c |
| 21:03:40 | captain_proton | Doughecka: 1.5, 1.7a, 1.7b, c, d1, d2 ... d9, e1, e2, (decide to move to kernel-like cycle) e4, e6 |
| 21:03:43 | Widget | Hm. |
| 21:03:47 | Doughecka | ah |
| 21:03:55 | Patlabor221 | I'd outline the tank |
| 21:03:59 | Patlabor221 | and move the text up |
| 21:04:01 | Doughecka | you would? |
| 21:04:02 | Doughecka | ok |
| 21:04:04 | Patlabor221 | then put hello in the tank |
| 21:04:05 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:04:18 | Patlabor221 | you blend too much at the barel |
| 21:04:18 | Doughecka | yea... |
| 21:04:25 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 21:04:26 | Doughecka | ok |
| 21:04:26 | Patlabor221 | send me the psd |
| 21:04:29 | Doughecka | ok |
| 21:04:41 | Gorb | d |
| 21:04:42 | Patlabor221 | it should be blue not green |
| 21:04:50 | Patlabor221 | iMac blue |
| 21:05:06 | Doughecka | yea... |
| 21:05:08 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 21:05:14 | Gorb | no #000033 blue |
| 21:05:17 | Doughecka | bondi blue? |
| 21:05:21 | Gorb | dark blue |
| 21:05:25 | Doughecka | hehe |
| 21:05:39 | captain_proton | 'blueberry' |
| 21:05:49 | captain_proton | with the imacish stripes |
| 21:05:50 | Gorb | yes |
| 21:05:55 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 21:06:00 | Doughecka | blue... |
| 21:06:04 | Doughecka | gotta try that |
| 21:06:11 | Doughecka | I did all the stuff in illistrtor |
| 21:06:18 | Doughecka | all the blends |
| 21:06:37 | Doughecka | c:\documents and settings\administrator\desktop\bzflag-1.7c.src.tar\bzflag-1.7c.orig\src\bzflag\localplayer.h(146) : error C2065: 'FLT_MAX' : undeclared identifier |
| 21:06:39 | Doughecka | ?? |
| 21:06:55 | Doughecka | its broke |
| 21:06:57 | Doughecka | I think |
| 21:07:08 | Doughecka | the bot will never live to see the light of day... |
| 21:07:41 | Patlabor221 | send me the ai file then |
| 21:07:51 | Patlabor221 | no wonder it looks bland |
| 21:07:55 | Doughecka | or the light of its tank bowing up into small but rather sharp, pointy thing flying throught the air killing unnumberable tanks nearby |
| 21:08:09 | Patlabor221 | it's not pointy it's a complete sphere |
| 21:08:16 | Patlabor221 | it's a flippin nerf ball |
| 21:08:30 | Patlabor221 | if it was pointy they woudln't let it into germany |
| 21:08:30 | Doughecka | lol |
| 21:08:41 | Doughecka | haha |
| 21:09:01 | Gorb | bad joke |
| 21:09:07 | Doughecka | rofl |
| 21:09:30 | Doughecka | oh my |
| 21:09:31 | Doughecka | bzflag.exe - 79 error(s), 2 warning(s) |
| 21:09:36 | Doughecka | wow |
| 21:09:40 | Doughecka | a record for bzflag |
| 21:09:47 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 21:09:49 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: can't take bzflag onto an airplane either |
| 21:09:59 | captain_proton | Doughecka: hell no - i've gotten 1000's before |
| 21:10:06 | Patlabor221 | nope, it'll go into the bin with the nail clippers |
| 21:10:25 | Doughecka | lol |
| 21:11:08 | Doughecka | you have to turn it off when you pull away from the gate... |
| 21:11:25 | Patlabor221 | no not that |
| 21:11:34 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 21:11:35 | Patlabor221 | nothing that can blow up |
| 21:11:41 | Doughecka | hmm |
| 21:11:43 | Doughecka | yea |
| 21:11:51 | Doughecka | dont turn it on in the first place |
| 21:12:01 | Patlabor221 | one day when you get off the farm you'll see an airport |
| 21:12:09 | Doughecka | ooh |
| 21:12:11 | Patlabor221 | there the big planes land |
| 21:12:19 | Doughecka | I have been to big airports.. |
| 21:12:29 | Doughecka | like ship-hol |
| 21:12:33 | Gorb | late, ------>bed, bye |
| 21:12:43 | Doughecka | in amsterdam |
| 21:12:47 | Doughecka | and others |
| 21:12:57 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh porn capital of the world |
| 21:13:04 | Doughecka | just a layover... |
| 21:13:11 | jpablo | humm, weird thing, anybody has tried to take a picture of a video playing with xv ? |
| 21:13:29 | captain_proton | he is watching, waiting |
| 21:13:41 | captain_proton | for just that right moment of insecurity |
| 21:13:41 | captain_proton | to PORNIMATE YOU! |
| 21:13:50 | Doughecka | AAAHH!!!! |
| 21:13:57 | Patlabor221 | ohh that sonds soooooo wrong |
| 21:13:58 | Doughecka | *ahem* |
| 21:14:11 | jpablo | now i have a image, that's a window to my movie. |
| 21:14:14 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: doesn't it? |
| 21:14:18 | jpablo | WI |
| 21:14:21 | Patlabor221 | very |
| 21:14:22 | jpablo | WEIRD stuff. |
| 21:14:45 | captain_proton | almost as wrong as 'slurp my quat' |
| 21:14:45 | Doughecka | ooohh |
| 21:14:49 | Patlabor221 | sounds like something that hapens in TJ to a donkey |
| 21:14:55 | Doughecka | brb |
| 21:15:12 | Doughecka | gotta go slop the pigs |
| 21:15:20 | Patlabor221 | at least he admits is |
| 21:15:33 | captain_proton | how weird is this: |
| 21:15:40 | captain_proton | i got a tan, just in time for the ietf conference |
| 21:16:23 | Doughecka | er |
| 21:16:25 | Doughecka | just kidding |
| 21:16:28 | Doughecka | hahahaha |
| 21:16:36 | Doughecka | you know, a , joke? |
| 21:16:56 | Widget | Wo ist Chestal? |
| 21:17:56 | captain_proton | commit coming at ya |
| 21:17:57 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:17:58 | bzbot | Motorpsycho (Green):-8 (23 wins, 31 losses). duce (Green):-8 (15 wins, 23 losses). T+34 (Red):4 (65 wins, 61 losses). Wozek (Red):-34 (119 wins, 153 losses). kangoo (Red):-6 (7 wins, 13 losses). [TLZ] FantaZee (Red):21 (44 wins, 23 losses). ben (Green):-3 (37 wins, 40 losses). Worf (Green):1 (6 wins, 5 losses). |
| 21:18:23 | Doughecka | bzfquerylong two.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 21:18:39 | Widget | Good job, genius. Now you crashed it. |
| 21:18:42 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:18:43 | bzbot | Motorpsycho (Green):-8 (24 wins, 32 losses). duce (Green):-8 (16 wins, 24 losses). @Zig (Blue):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). T+34 (Red):3 (65 wins, 62 losses). Wozek (Red):-36 (120 wins, 156 losses). kangoo (Red):-5 (9 wins, 14 losses). [TLZ] FantaZee (Red):22 (45 wins, 23 losses). ben (Green):-1 (39 wins, 40 losses). Worf (Green):0 (7 wins, 7 losses). |
| 21:18:46 | Doughecka | I did not |
| 21:18:48 | Widget | Oh, no you didn't. |
| 21:18:51 | Widget | Let's play. |
| 21:18:53 | Widget | Port 59999.l |
| 21:18:59 | Doughecka | who? |
| 21:19:02 | Widget | You. |
| 21:19:07 | Widget | Go. There. Now. |
| 21:19:08 | Doughecka | I have to install addons for OFP |
| 21:19:17 | Doughecka | 59999? |
| 21:19:21 | Doughecka | bots on tehre? |
| 21:19:24 | captain_proton | Widget: see ya there, sucka |
| 21:19:25 | Widget | No. |
| 21:19:27 | Widget | No bots. |
| 21:19:28 | Doughecka | bummer |
| 21:19:37 | captain_proton | whoa hang on a sec |
| 21:19:53 | captain_proton | why no bots? |
| 21:19:59 | Doughecka | we NEED bots |
| 21:20:03 | Widget | captain_proton: I see thee not. |
| 21:20:07 | Widget | captain_proton: Cause we can't compile them! |
| 21:20:13 | Widget | captain_proton: We can't get the proper version of BZFlag! |
| 21:20:14 | captain_proton | Widget: ok, coming |
| 21:20:18 | Doughecka | goes and lies face down in the dirt |
| 21:21:03 | Widget | captain_proton: I see thee not still. |
| 21:21:25 | Widget | captain_proton: ARE YOU THERE YET!?!?!? |
| 21:21:27 | Widget | Port 59999. |
| 21:38:22 | Widget | captain_proton: ? |
| 21:38:32 | captain_proton | Widget: got too jumpy to be playable |
| 21:38:47 | Widget | captain_proton: Oh. |
| 21:39:00 | Widget | captain_proton: Your lag should be better on cell.unm.edu 5155. |
| 21:39:35 | Widget | captain_proton: Want to play there? |
| 21:39:43 | captain_proton | Widget: not really - have new stuff to do |
| 21:39:51 | Widget | OK. |
| 21:40:27 | Widget | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:40:27 | bzbot | Red: 2 players, score: -4 | Green: 1 players, score: 4 | |
| 21:40:31 | Widget | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 21:40:31 | bzbot | Worf (Red):-1 (1 wins, 2 losses). duce (Green):8 (29 wins, 21 losses). Wulfere (Red):-23 (19 wins, 42 losses). |
| 21:45:07 | captain_proton | woohoo |
| 21:45:12 | Doughecka | woohoo |
| 21:45:15 | captain_proton | ogg 1.0 - no more cvs yickiness |
| 21:45:36 | Doughecka | hrm |
| 21:46:01 | captain_proton | goes to download |
| 21:46:11 | Doughecka | heh |
| 21:51:11 | bryjen | captain_proton: when starting 1.8 serveral like this: OggAudioFile() failed: call to ov_open_callbacks failed |
| 21:51:41 | captain_proton | bryjen: what version of ogg vorbis do you have? |
| 21:51:46 | bryjen | captain_proton: some sounds don't play during the game, and the ogg files dont play directly...... bad oggs? |
| 21:52:32 | captain_proton | oggs are fine, code is fine, only recent cvs or the new vorbis 1.0 libs will function correctly with them |
| 21:53:21 | bryjen | captain_proton: Slackware 8 came with a package including libogg-1.0rc1, libao-0.7.0, libvorbis-1.0rc1, vorbis-tools-1.0rc1 |
| 21:53:31 | captain_proton | ewww |
| 21:53:34 | captain_proton | bryjen: go download the latest |
| 21:53:38 | bryjen | hmmmm rc1, they i go |
| 21:53:45 | bryjen | s/they/there |
| 21:54:02 | bryjen | captain_proton: ok. thx |
| 22:10:16 | bryjen | ewww what? |
| 22:11:50 | captain_proton | eww @ those versions |
| 22:13:18 | bryjen | hehe. yeah, i was hoping to squeak by.... |
| 22:17:49 | jzaun | captain_proton: the <text> item, what does the X and the Y atributes do? |
| 22:18:11 | captain_proton | jzaun: what file/line ? |
| 22:18:42 | jzaun | eh been playing with the file... so line numbers won't match, but the file is view.bzc |
| 22:19:04 | captain_proton | jzaun: ahh, position |
| 22:19:08 | jzaun | any of the <text x="-4p" y="-4p">some text</text> |
| 22:19:30 | jzaun | relitive to what the viewport its in or the full screen? |
| 22:19:38 | captain_proton | viewport |
| 22:19:47 | captain_proton | -n = subtracted from right/bottom |
| 22:20:17 | jzaun | so a <text>some text</text> would just place if whereever the <align> tag said to? |
| 22:20:25 | captain_proton | believe so |
| 22:32:05 | jzaun | captain_proton: How would I make a diff with what I have and CVS? |
| 22:32:16 | captain_proton | cvs diff -u |
| 22:33:14 | jzaun | Will that add files? |
| 22:34:10 | captain_proton | nope |
| 22:36:10 | jzaun_ | captain_proton: Would you be willing to test something for me? |
| 22:36:48 | captain_proton | jzaun_: yeah |
| 22:37:11 | jzaun_ | captain_proton: ok DCCing you a diff file |
| 22:37:32 | jzaun_ | apply that (just changes 2 files in the data directory) |
| 22:38:06 | jzaun_ | captain_proton: once thats applyed copy radar.bzg to message.bzg and status.bzg |
| 22:39:31 | captain_proton | oh my |
| 22:39:33 | jzaun_ | It should make the interface much nice (at least in my opinion). It'de be nice to but a decrotive graphic around it all |
| 22:39:34 | captain_proton | it looks 1.7ish |
| 22:40:02 | jzaun_ | captain_proton: putting it at the top detracts play for me |
| 22:40:05 | jzaun_ | thats where I look |
| 22:40:20 | jzaun_ | captain_proton: try turning on rearview :-) |
| 22:40:52 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 22:41:24 | jzaun_ | If I made a graphic to go around all that would it be hard to add to the display? |
| 22:41:35 | captain_proton | probably not |
| 22:42:32 | jzaun_ | still got work to do though... would be nice to get everything except the scores in the same area |
| 22:42:35 | captain_proton | nothing is really 'hard' to add to the display |
| 22:43:29 | Doughecka | rear view? |
| 22:43:55 | jzaun_ | The only thing I can think of is scalling the graphic threw all display sizes so it looks good in them all |
| 22:44:01 | captain_proton | Doughecka: press are |
| 22:44:03 | captain_proton | err |
| 22:44:04 | captain_proton | 'r' |
| 22:44:08 | Doughecka | ? |
| 22:44:14 | captain_proton | in 1.8 |
| 22:44:17 | Doughecka | ah |
| 22:44:18 | Doughecka | cool |
| 22:44:36 | Doughecka | I need a binary |
| 22:44:52 | Doughecka | I cant get 1.8 to compile with the vorbis stuff |
| 22:44:58 | Doughecka | windowz |
| 22:44:59 | Doughecka | ;) |
| 22:45:26 | captain_proton | install the farking vorbis SDK |
| 22:46:06 | jzaun_ | captain_proton: what graphic size would you suspect would scale well threw all video depth |
| 22:46:15 | captain_proton | jzaun_: 1600x1200 ;) |
| 22:46:20 | jzaun_ | heh :-) |
| 22:46:32 | jzaun_ | thats actually my video depth |
| 22:47:18 | captain_proton | mine as well |
| 22:48:21 | bryjen | monitor size? |
| 22:48:25 | captain_proton | 21 |
| 22:48:39 | captain_proton | though it works well on a 19er too |
| 22:48:44 | bryjen | why did i even ask..... :) |
| 22:49:15 | jzaun_ | 19 here |
| 22:49:23 | captain_proton | you wanted to be insanely jealous? |
| 22:50:23 | jzaun_ | captain_proton: I'll work on a graphic to go around all that... as well as moving the rest of everything into that area (besides scores) |
| 22:50:41 | bryjen | is OK. if mine where much bigger i'd have to hacksaw my shelf |
| 22:50:43 | jzaun_ | once its all done, it that what you were kind looking for, or way off? |
| 22:51:03 | jzaun_ | bryjen: I've been eyeing a 34"er :-) |
| 22:51:46 | bryjen | good grief. how far away would you sit to keep you face from getting CRT burn? :P |
| 22:52:05 | jzaun_ | heh I sit ~1' from my monitor |
| 22:52:31 | bryjen | or apply a good sun block. doesnt do much for your poor eyes tho. |
| 22:52:34 | jzaun_ | I would have to move back to 2' if I got that though |
| 22:52:35 | captain_proton | jzaun_: i'm not specifically looking for anything - i'm happy with the current layout |
| 22:52:39 | captain_proton | but the more options, the better |
| 22:54:00 | jzaun | I know its sad, but I actually like gaim as my IRC client.... |
| 22:54:09 | jzaun | wish it had DCC file transfers though |
| 22:54:14 | captain_proton | to each his own i suppose |
| 22:55:17 | jzaun | Just <FONT COLOR="#000000">be thankfull</FONT> I don't use <FONT SIZE="5">This stuff</FONT> all the time :-) |
| 22:55:28 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:55:33 | captain_proton | <jzaun> Just <FONT COLOR="#000000">be thankfull</FONT> I don't use <FONT SIZE="5">This stuff</FONT> all the time :-) |
| 22:55:55 | captain_proton | ooh wait |
| 22:55:56 | jzaun | gaim actually rendard the subset of HTML :-) |
| 22:56:03 | captain_proton | haha |
| 22:56:17 | Widget | Someone wrote a patch for gaim to convert HTML colours into mIRC ones. |
| 22:56:20 | jzaun | It also changes :-) and whatnot into little graphics |
| 22:56:31 | captain_proton | so much for gaim being a compliant irc client ;) |
| 22:56:56 | jzaun | eh, sence when was *any* client 100% complient?? |
| 22:57:10 | captain_proton | most are rfc compliant |
| 22:57:25 | captain_proton | if you ignore the whole mIRC color thing |
| 22:57:38 | jzaun | yah, so is gaim... I'm here talking... mIRC is not part of the standard though |
| 22:58:14 | jzaun | Gaim lets you add people to your buddy list, it uses /notify for it... rather cool |
| 22:58:29 | jzaun | I got you in there... arn't you privleged :-P |
| 22:58:56 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 22:59:50 | jzaun | it lets me add IRC nick names to my buddy list (AIM/ICQ/etc.) it uses the /notify command to get online/offline status |
| 23:02:05 | jzaun | ah well, time to go to the club.... see you all around 2:00AM EST |
| 23:02:21 | captain_proton | have fun |
| 23:03:47 | Widget | Goodbye, jzaun. |
| 23:09:17 | Widget | captain_proton: I'll play you again. |
| 23:09:31 | captain_proton | Widget: its painful playing in this heat |
| 23:09:39 | Widget | captain_proton: Turn on a fan. |
| 23:09:46 | captain_proton | i have |
| 23:09:48 | Widget | It's freezing here. You can borrow some of the cold. |
| 23:09:55 | captain_proton | doesn't help |
| 23:10:05 | Widget | Play anyway. |
| 23:10:10 | Widget | And if you lose, blame it on the heat. |
| 23:10:10 | captain_proton | only blows the hot air at me |
| 23:10:31 | captain_proton | i'll play you on the decks |
| 23:10:45 | Widget | That's really unfair. |
| 23:10:49 | Widget | I never play decks. |
| 23:10:53 | Widget | You play ducati lots of times. |
| 23:11:05 | captain_proton | whose fault is that? |
| 23:11:15 | Widget | captain_proton: Play me on ducati! |
| 23:11:22 | captain_proton | WUSS |
| 23:11:41 | Widget | OK... don't then. |
| 23:12:17 | Widget | Sigh. |
| 23:13:16 | Widget | est somnolente... |
| 23:16:52 | Widget | OK, I'll play you decks! |
| 23:16:55 | Widget | captain_proton: Gah!! |
| 23:17:46 | Widget | captain_proton: Hello? |
| 23:17:55 | captain_proton | captain_proton: ok, lets go, sucka |
| 23:18:10 | captain_proton | jzaun.com |
| 23:46:59 | Doughecka | captain_proton |
| 23:47:02 | Doughecka | you here? |
