| 18:44:51 | captain_proton | ibot! |
| 18:49:54 | bzdougy | starts installing 98 again |
| 18:50:05 | strayer | oh...hard guy |
| 18:50:11 | bzdougy | :Z |
| 18:50:26 | strayer | :) |
| 18:50:37 | bzdougy | whoops, ISB mouse dont work under 98 install |
| 18:50:47 | bzdougy | but under linux install.. |
| 18:50:59 | strayer | so install 2k or so |
| 18:51:06 | bzdougy | hmm |
| 18:51:09 | bzdougy | I am trying |
| 18:51:19 | bzdougy | gonna upgrade from 98 to 2000 |
| 18:51:35 | strayer | oh no...bettter install new |
| 18:51:53 | captain_proton | USB mouse will work under 98SE |
| 18:52:00 | captain_proton | but yeah |
| 18:52:03 | captain_proton | install 2k directly |
| 18:52:04 | Widget | Yes!!!!!!!!!! My program works!!!!! |
| 18:52:14 | captain_proton | Widget: with DFS? |
| 18:52:16 | bzdougy | GOOD! |
| 18:52:19 | Widget | captain_proton: Ya. |
| 18:52:30 | Widget | captain_proton: I'll do the BFS after I turn it in, just to see if I can get it to work. |
| 18:52:33 | captain_proton | coo' coo' |
| 18:52:42 | Widget | captain_proton: Thanks so much for your help. |
| 18:52:59 | captain_proton | no problem |
| 18:55:11 | Widget | OK, commented out all the debugging printfs(). It's done. :) |
| 18:55:13 | Widget | And none too soon. |
| 18:55:16 | Widget | Class at 6 to-day. |
| 18:55:47 | | privet, CLQ |
| 18:55:47 | CLQ | Hi |
| 18:56:15 | CLQ | Hello everyone |
| 18:56:17 | doughecka | bah |
| 18:56:20 | Widget | ibot's back!!! |
| 18:56:21 | doughecka | nasty dsl |
| 18:56:26 | strayer | CLQ: hi |
| 18:56:27 | Widget | Does it remember stuff? |
| 18:56:30 | doughecka | greetings |
| 18:56:31 | | somebody said widget was the only Kiwi BZFlagger! |
| 18:56:31 | Widget | ibot: widget? |
| 18:56:33 | doughecka | hey ibot! |
| 18:56:37 | | doughecka: huh? |
| 18:56:37 | doughecka | ibot hey! |
| 18:56:37 | Widget | !?!? |
| 18:56:39 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:56:39 | doughecka | ibot ducati? |
| 18:56:40 | Widget | Who said that? |
| 18:56:42 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 18:56:43 | | a german gent that enjoys croissant with his pet duck, Tag |
| 18:56:43 | Widget | ibot: chestal? |
| 18:56:47 | doughecka | yes! |
| 18:56:47 | | i haven't a clue, widget |
| 18:56:47 | Widget | ibot: doughecka? |
| 18:56:52 | doughecka | it remembers it |
| 18:56:52 | | bugger all, i dunno, widget |
| 18:56:52 | Widget | ibot: karma doughecka? |
| 18:56:58 | | tad has karma of -93 |
| 18:56:58 | doughecka | karma for tad? |
| 18:57:04 | doughecka | ah |
| 18:57:38 | | doughecka: what? |
| 18:57:38 | doughecka | ibot say hi to Widget! |
| 18:57:49 | | doughecka: sorry... |
| 18:57:49 | doughecka | ibot greet Widget |
| 18:57:59 | sussudio | can anyone tell what wtf bzflag 1.7f7M is? |
| 18:58:00 | Widget | Hm... the stack prints out the path backwards. I wonder if the professor minds. |
| 18:58:00 | | doughecka: excuse me? |
| 18:58:00 | doughecka | ibot say hello to Widget |
| 18:58:15 | doughecka | sussudio mrapathyscream verison |
| 18:58:26 | sussudio | doughecka: which means? |
| 18:58:32 | doughecka | version |
| 18:58:41 | doughecka | it his patched version |
| 18:58:48 | doughecka | its* |
| 18:58:50 | sussudio | patched to do what..... cheat? |
| 18:59:01 | Widget | sussudio: No. |
| 18:59:04 | doughecka | noo |
| 18:59:05 | Widget | sussudio: It's patched to restore the old radar. |
| 18:59:09 | doughecka | check it out: http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html |
| 18:59:09 | CLQ | I experemented a bit with the bot |
| 18:59:21 | sussudio | it's a bot? |
| 18:59:22 | Widget | sussudio: Because many people couldn't live with the new e6 radar. |
| 18:59:24 | doughecka | 51 %!! |
| 18:59:25 | Widget | sussudio: No. |
| 18:59:26 | doughecka | sussudio: no |
| 18:59:29 | Widget | sussudio: It's a normal client. |
| 18:59:36 | Widget | sussudio: Only it lets you restore the old e4 radar to e6. |
| 18:59:45 | Widget | sussudio: The M stands for "Moles". |
| 19:00:51 | sussudio | can anyone point me to a site about how i should put these little plastic inserts into a RJ45 plug? |
| 19:00:57 | sussudio | i cant figure it out |
| 19:01:05 | doughecka | ????? |
| 19:01:14 | sussudio | trying to crimp cat5 |
| 19:01:19 | doughecka | ooh |
| 19:01:33 | doughecka | hm |
| 19:01:35 | doughecka | I dunno |
| 19:01:39 | doughecka | but its easy |
| 19:01:39 | | the problem is in lib/X11/Xlib.h it refers to #include <stddef.h) rather than <linux/stddef.h> |
| 19:01:39 | strayer | sussudio: where is the problem? |
| 19:01:41 | sussudio | every tried to do a google search for "rj45 inserts"? |
| 19:02:05 | sussudio | the problem is, which way is up, which way is front |
| 19:02:25 | doughecka | you strip the OUTER plastic off, and stick it tin there, and crimp |
| 19:02:39 | doughecka | easy... |
| 19:02:48 | sussudio | no, these rj45 plugs come with little plastic holders which are supposed to go inside |
| 19:02:58 | doughecka | ooh, those, ugh |
| 19:03:05 | strayer | and decide if it should be an crossed or patch cable |
| 19:03:06 | captain_proton | the inserts have 8 little holes, no? |
| 19:03:11 | sussudio | yes |
| 19:03:36 | doughecka | yipppy, 98 is done! |
| 19:03:44 | sussudio | 98 what |
| 19:03:52 | doughecka | windows |
| 19:03:57 | strayer | do U have a tongs? |
| 19:03:58 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:04:00 | captain_proton | you stick the wires through those holes (order depending on the type of cable), then stick the entire assembly far enough inside the jack for the leads to make contact when you crimp |
| 19:04:06 | sussudio | thongs? |
| 19:04:13 | doughecka | strayer: I have gloves and a mask |
| 19:04:19 | doughecka | rubber even |
| 19:04:49 | strayer | ... |
| 19:05:18 | doughecka | cant find the right keys to type with |
| 19:05:26 | doughecka | its all mixed up... |
| 19:05:27 | sussudio | they're on the keyboard |
| 19:05:42 | doughecka | like ~ is 9 on the keyboard |
| 19:05:51 | sussudio | btw NIN is not the right music to play with bzflag |
| 19:06:08 | sussudio | especially 'mr self destruct' |
| 19:06:11 | doughecka | thanks for telling me, I will take a note of it |
| 19:06:14 | doughecka | ;) |
| 19:06:14 | sussudio | which i promptly did |
| 19:09:10 | doughecka | I need a KVM |
| 19:09:17 | doughecka | switch |
| 19:09:37 | sussudio | they're pretty much all shit |
| 19:09:44 | doughecka | finds a quarter in his floppy drive |
| 19:10:00 | doughecka | whoops, now I know why it was not workin |
| 19:11:50 | doughecka | If your computer stops resonding for a long time, turn it off, and switch it back on. [quote Bill Gates] |
| 19:12:51 | Widget | Hm.... my friend can apparently not compile my program in MSVC++. |
| 19:13:04 | doughecka | blame microsoft |
| 19:13:08 | doughecka | ;) |
| 19:13:56 | doughecka | oh goody, the mouse works now |
| 19:14:04 | Widget | It concerns this: |
| 19:14:04 | Widget | typedef struct _STACKNODE { |
| 19:14:04 | Widget | COORDINATE data; |
| 19:14:05 | Widget | struct _STACKNODE *next; |
| 19:14:05 | Widget | } STACKNODE; |
| 19:16:59 | doughecka | whats the error? |
| 19:19:34 | sussudio | gasp. i'll just change teamcolor.... keep getting blown up by 'team' mates on the decks |
| 19:20:01 | patlabor221 | so widget it's all working? |
| 19:20:06 | Widget | patlabor221: With gcc. |
| 19:20:12 | Widget | patlabor221: My friend says it won't compile on MSVC++. |
| 19:20:39 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you have sound and input libs for me to port? |
| 19:20:40 | patlabor221 | send it to me and I can tell you wy |
| 19:20:52 | patlabor221 | not yet |
| 19:20:56 | Widget | Let me try compiling it on MSVC++. |
| 19:21:08 | patlabor221 | unless you want to make them use SDL at teh same time |
| 19:21:20 | captain_proton | hmm, i might be able to do that |
| 19:21:50 | patlabor221 | atempsts to focus the chi and make sense of the madness.. |
| 19:23:04 | patlabor221 | crap the madness is winning |
| 19:23:08 | captain_proton | steals patlabor221's chi |
| 19:23:32 | patlabor221 | wonders if captain_proton knows that it's tainted |
| 19:23:50 | captain_proton | tainted chi? |
| 19:23:53 | patlabor221 | big time |
| 19:24:00 | captain_proton | explain |
| 19:24:10 | patlabor221 | powers of the dark lord and all that |
| 19:24:32 | patlabor221 | www.artemisgames.com/SoundMngr.zip |
| 19:24:50 | patlabor221 | I want to make it use SDL and SDL_Sound |
| 19:26:53 | patlabor221 | it's tainted buecaue once you go down the dark path, forever will it at least taint your beeing, even if you do not follow the path |
| 19:26:53 | captain_proton | SDL_sound or SDL_mixer? (SDL_sound is an icculus thang) |
| 19:26:53 | patlabor221 | yes, I like SDL_Sound, it's got the mp3 and oog loaders in it |
| 19:26:59 | captain_proton | ogg, not oog |
| 19:27:05 | patlabor221 | yeah yeah |
| 19:27:18 | patlabor221 | widget: do you have access to VC++? |
| 19:31:48 | Widget | patlabor221: On my dad's computer. |
| 19:32:07 | Widget | patlabor221: Hm.... the problem seems to be when declaring a new COORDINATE or STACKNODE. |
| 19:32:16 | Widget | Compiling... |
| 19:32:17 | Widget | stack.c |
| 19:32:17 | Widget | c:\documents and settings\public\desktop\ra\finalmaze\stack.c(7) : error C2275: 'STACKNODE' : illegal use of this type as an expression |
| 19:32:17 | Widget | c:\documents and settings\public\desktop\ra\finalmaze\main.h(26) : see declaration of 'STACKNODE' |
| 19:32:17 | Widget | c:\documents and settings\public\desktop\ra\finalmaze\stack.c(7) : error C2065: 'thisCell' : undeclared identifier |
| 19:32:19 | Widget | c:\documents and settings\public\desktop\ra\finalmaze\stack.c(8) : error C2223: left of '->data' must point to struct/union |
| 19:32:22 | Widget | c:\documents and settings\public\desktop\ra\finalmaze\stack.c(9) : error C2223: left of '->next' must point to struct/union |
| 19:32:25 | Widget | c:\documents and settings\public\desktop\ra\finalmaze\stack.c(12) : warning C4047: '=' : 'struct _STACKNODE *' differs in levels of indirection from 'int ' |
| 19:32:30 | Widget | Error executing cl.exe. |
| 19:32:32 | Widget | Eep. |
| 19:32:36 | patlabor221 | what is _stacknode? |
| 19:32:53 | Widget | typedef struct _STACKNODE { |
| 19:32:54 | Widget | COORDINATE data; |
| 19:32:54 | Widget | struct _STACKNODE *next; |
| 19:32:54 | Widget | } STACKNODE; |
| 19:33:10 | Widget | http://home.attbi.com/~ulumuri/finalmaze.tar.gz |
| 19:33:12 | patlabor221 | I don't think you need the struct in there |
| 19:33:14 | Widget | The whole project. |
| 19:33:17 | Widget | And.... |
| 19:33:24 | Widget | http://home.attbi.com/~ulumuri/map.txt |
| 19:33:28 | Widget | You do need the struct there. |
| 19:33:39 | patlabor221 | that URL can't be found |
| 19:33:45 | Widget | Because _STACKNODE is a normal struct. It will error out without that struct. |
| 19:33:49 | patlabor221 | the first |
| 19:34:14 | Widget | OK. |
| 19:34:16 | Widget | Try now. |
| 19:35:07 | patlabor221 | got it |
| 19:35:20 | patlabor221 | just have to make a VC project for it |
| 19:35:49 | Widget | I compiled all of them, and it asked if I wanted to "add it to project". |
| 19:36:04 | patlabor221 | yeah it should |
| 19:36:12 | patlabor221 | the project is like the makefile |
| 19:36:16 | Widget | And I added them all. |
| 19:36:16 | captain_proton | eek! |
| 19:36:20 | captain_proton | we need a new word of the day |
| 19:36:24 | patlabor221 | that we do |
| 19:36:36 | patlabor221 | kumupins! |
| 19:36:50 | captain_proton | kumupins? |
| 19:37:33 | patlabor221 | ok widget only 2 tiny things |
| 19:37:43 | Widget | Wotwot? |
| 19:37:52 | patlabor221 | in print path move COORDINATE temp; |
| 19:38:00 | patlabor221 | bevore fflush |
| 19:38:08 | patlabor221 | and in push |
| 19:38:14 | patlabor221 | move STACKNODE *thisCell = (STACKNODE*) malloc(sizeof(STACKNODE)); |
| 19:38:19 | patlabor221 | before fflush |
| 19:38:24 | Widget | Hvarfor? |
| 19:38:37 | patlabor221 | you have to declare your vars before call funcs in straight C |
| 19:38:41 | Widget | Wait, which file? |
| 19:38:53 | Widget | Oh, I see. |
| 19:38:54 | Widget | Hang on. |
| 19:39:12 | patlabor221 | sttack.c |
| 19:39:28 | patlabor221 | and print.c |
| 19:40:35 | Widget | OK, back to the other computer to test. |
| 19:41:49 | patlabor221 | widget, do you want my project file? |
| 19:41:59 | Widget | No, I already built a project. |
| 19:42:00 | patlabor221 | so that you don't have to keep making them |
| 19:42:06 | Widget | I don't even know how to use project files. |
| 19:42:09 | Widget | Hang on. |
| 19:42:20 | patlabor221 | just add all those files to the empty project |
| 19:42:44 | patlabor221 | cap ok how bour druthers |
| 19:42:45 | doughecka | woo, gf cards are better than intel 815 |
| 19:43:06 | captain_proton | patlabor221: sounds good |
| 19:43:07 | patlabor221 | that is true |
| 19:43:28 | captain_proton | what -isn't- better than i815? |
| 19:43:36 | captain_proton | except i810 of course :) |
| 19:43:37 | patlabor221 | 3s Verge |
| 19:43:46 | doughecka | haaa |
| 19:43:47 | patlabor221 | S3 verge |
| 19:43:51 | doughecka | I have that |
| 19:43:53 | doughecka | card |
| 19:43:54 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:43:56 | patlabor221 | any VLB card |
| 19:44:17 | doughecka | no, S3 trio64V+ |
| 19:44:26 | sussudio | hey! you're hurting my s3 trio stealth64's feelings |
| 19:44:47 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:44:58 | patlabor221 | well those don't pretend to be 3d cards |
| 19:45:07 | doughecka | hehe |
| 19:45:07 | patlabor221 | the verge and 81x series do |
| 19:45:10 | sussudio | yeah 3d would be real handy in console |
| 19:45:16 | doughecka | sure |
| 19:45:36 | patlabor221 | realy fast beveld text :) |
| 19:45:52 | captain_proton | attempts to motivate himself to do something |
| 19:46:05 | doughecka | um |
| 19:46:11 | sussudio | motivates captain_proton with a cattleprod |
| 19:46:33 | Widget | patlabor221: Odd... it compiled, but it doesn't print anything after I give it the file. |
| 19:46:41 | Widget | patlabor221: But it works fine on gcc! |
| 19:46:41 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:47:14 | captain_proton | depending on how you did everything, it could be messing up on CR/LF |
| 19:47:42 | Widget | I copy-pasted from the file on the web to notepad. |
| 19:48:19 | Widget | And it checks if the scanned in value is '\n' |
| 19:48:29 | Widget | Not 10 or whatever the ASCII value of a linefeed is. |
| 19:48:48 | captain_proton | but do you dynamically allocate? |
| 19:49:10 | Widget | Dynamically allocate what? |
| 19:49:14 | captain_proton | the array |
| 19:49:29 | captain_proton | if you use the fseek() method, you mess up because there's an extra byte per line |
| 19:49:29 | Widget | Which one? The array of structs that holds the cells of the maze? |
| 19:49:35 | Widget | No, it's statically declared to be 10x10. |
| 19:49:37 | patlabor221 | it used /n |
| 19:49:47 | Widget | patlabor221: It used what? |
| 19:49:55 | patlabor221 | what format is the file in unix or win? |
| 19:50:03 | Widget | Well, Windows I supposed. |
| 19:50:10 | Widget | Because I copied from internet explorer....... |
| 19:50:13 | Widget | And pasted to Notepad. |
| 19:50:19 | patlabor221 | and it looks ok there/ |
| 19:50:20 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 19:50:24 | Widget | Yes. |
| 19:50:30 | patlabor221 | then it should work |
| 19:50:33 | Widget | Does it print out properly for you? |
| 19:50:41 | patlabor221 | you can step throught and see what it's doing\ |
| 19:50:51 | patlabor221 | F10 and F11 |
| 19:51:00 | doughecka | lalala, rebooting for the 5th time |
| 19:51:10 | Widget | patlabor221: Does it print out the correct output for you, though? |
| 19:52:03 | patlabor221 | hang on gotta run from a prompt |
| 19:52:32 | doughecka | whoops, I hate drivers.. |
| 19:52:42 | patlabor221 | it don't print anyting |
| 19:52:47 | Widget | Gr... |
| 19:52:51 | Widget | It works on Linux!!! |
| 19:53:10 | patlabor221 | let me debug it |
| 19:58:05 | Widget | Hm... it won't print out anything if it doesn't find a path to the exit. |
| 20:01:58 | patlabor221 | let me make sure it reads the map in |
| 20:02:29 | doughecka | ouch |
| 20:02:37 | doughecka | p2501 aint workin |
| 20:02:39 | patlabor221 | is it ok for the first data item to be -1? |
| 20:02:50 | patlabor221 | dougL what drivers did you install? |
| 20:03:01 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:03:02 | Widget | The first data item? |
| 20:03:04 | Widget | What do you mean? |
| 20:03:09 | doughecka | the ones off the CD |
| 20:03:13 | patlabor221 | yes 0,0 has a value of -1 |
| 20:03:18 | doughecka | let me get the letest |
| 20:03:21 | patlabor221 | doug: don't use those |
| 20:03:22 | doughecka | latest |
| 20:03:26 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:03:31 | patlabor221 | allway use latest |
| 20:03:34 | patlabor221 | allways |
| 20:03:46 | doughecka | nvidia.com |
| 20:03:47 | doughecka | ? |
| 20:03:52 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:04:28 | patlabor221 | widget it bails out right at the begining of the big search |
| 20:04:30 | patlabor221 | on if((traverser.X > getWidth()) || (traverser.Y > getHeigth())) { |
| 20:04:30 | patlabor221 | //printf("Out of bounds\n"); |
| 20:04:30 | patlabor221 | return 0; |
| 20:04:30 | patlabor221 | } |
| 20:04:33 | doughecka | woah, the drivers are hugh |
| 20:04:40 | patlabor221 | live with it |
| 20:04:47 | patlabor221 | and make sure you have DX8.1 |
| 20:05:42 | patlabor221 | it thinks it's out of bounds |
| 20:05:50 | Widget | Why!? |
| 20:05:55 | patlabor221 | checking now |
| 20:05:57 | Widget | It doesn't on my computer... |
| 20:06:20 | Widget | Hm... have it print out the return values of getWidth() and getHeigth() // I know it's misspelled |
| 20:06:27 | Widget | I think those might be messed up. |
| 20:06:28 | patlabor221 | the maze width and maze height ate 0 |
| 20:06:41 | Widget | Hm... interesting. |
| 20:06:44 | Widget | It's set properly on Linux. |
| 20:06:51 | Widget | They're set in readMap.c |
| 20:07:19 | patlabor221 | yes wading throught bad indentation now :) |
| 20:07:45 | Widget | I got emacs21 yesterday, and it wanted to use a different indentation than emacs20. |
| 20:07:48 | patlabor221 | you know you can use break instead of continue in your case statnement |
| 20:08:01 | Widget | So my header file has different indentation than other files. |
| 20:08:06 | Widget | But will continue; work? |
| 20:08:18 | patlabor221 | yeah, just seems silly |
| 20:08:32 | patlabor221 | if you have code after the case then it will not be executed |
| 20:09:16 | patlabor221 | perhaps I am blind but where is mazeheight set? |
| 20:09:36 | Widget | int getHeigth() { |
| 20:09:36 | Widget | mazeHeight = j-1; |
| 20:09:36 | Widget | return mazeHeight; |
| 20:09:36 | Widget | } |
| 20:09:49 | Widget | Line 93 of readMap.c |
| 20:09:50 | patlabor221 | wher is J efined? |
| 20:10:09 | Widget | Line 6. |
| 20:10:13 | captain_proton | where's apathy been off to recently? |
| 20:10:26 | patlabor221 | wow that is the wierdest way |
| 20:10:38 | patlabor221 | you kow you don't realy ever use the variable map height |
| 20:10:49 | patlabor221 | you calc it evertime you get it |
| 20:10:59 | Widget | I don't use the what? |
| 20:11:08 | patlabor221 | mazeHeight |
| 20:11:20 | patlabor221 | you use J to get it |
| 20:11:25 | Widget | I know. |
| 20:11:27 | patlabor221 | can J change after the map is read? |
| 20:11:34 | Widget | But it just looks better. |
| 20:11:34 | Widget | Yes, it can. |
| 20:11:38 | Widget | Well... it shouoldn't. |
| 20:11:40 | Widget | But it can. |
| 20:11:46 | patlabor221 | would that not change the maze height? |
| 20:12:07 | patlabor221 | why not set the maze size once when you read it in and never mess with it |
| 20:13:14 | patlabor221 | ohh I see |
| 20:13:16 | Widget | Well, j isn't modified after you read in the map. |
| 20:13:20 | patlabor221 | you have extra new lines at the end |
| 20:13:25 | patlabor221 | in the windows text file |
| 20:13:30 | patlabor221 | they get treated as rows |
| 20:13:35 | patlabor221 | with no width |
| 20:13:41 | patlabor221 | so at the end of the reas |
| 20:14:00 | patlabor221 | at the end of the read, you are at j = 7 i = 0 |
| 20:14:25 | patlabor221 | you realy should just keep the longest row for the width |
| 20:14:38 | patlabor221 | and only increment heigh if I != 0 |
| 20:15:43 | Widget | Oh. |
| 20:15:53 | Widget | Or can I just remove the newlines? |
| 20:16:04 | patlabor221 | yeah or you can be robust |
| 20:16:06 | patlabor221 | it's an easy fix |
| 20:16:13 | Widget | Robustness? Nah. |
| 20:16:17 | patlabor221 | at the start of readMap add |
| 20:16:19 | patlabor221 | mazeWidth = -1; |
| 20:16:19 | patlabor221 | mazeHeight = 0; |
| 20:16:36 | patlabor221 | inside the cese ofr \n add |
| 20:16:36 | patlabor221 | if (i < mazeWidth) |
| 20:16:36 | patlabor221 | mazeWidth = i; |
| 20:16:36 | patlabor221 | if (i >0) |
| 20:16:36 | patlabor221 | mazeHeight++; |
| 20:16:51 | patlabor221 | and cheange get H to be |
| 20:16:52 | patlabor221 | int getHeigth() { |
| 20:16:52 | patlabor221 | return mazeHeight; |
| 20:16:52 | patlabor221 | } |
| 20:17:19 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:17:22 | patlabor221 | what if the instructor types in his own map? and it don't work, and you get an f? |
| 20:17:32 | doughecka | maybe it needs dX 8.1 |
| 20:17:45 | patlabor221 | it does |
| 20:17:50 | Chestal | hmm, did I miss something? why was the froot loops abandoned? |
| 20:17:52 | patlabor221 | did I not tell you to get 8.1? |
| 20:17:58 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:18:06 | Widget | What happened to the loops!?!? |
| 20:18:10 | | loops are mean |
| 20:18:10 | doughecka | loops? |
| 20:18:32 | patlabor221 | <doughecka> woah, the drivers are hugh |
| 20:18:32 | patlabor221 | <patlabor221> live with it |
| 20:18:32 | patlabor221 | <patlabor221> and make sure you have DX8.1 |
| 20:19:31 | patlabor221 | opp widget my bad in the \n case you need to make it |
| 20:19:31 | patlabor221 | if (i > mazeWidth) |
| 20:19:31 | patlabor221 | mazeWidth = i; |
| 20:20:25 | doughecka | oh |
| 20:20:59 | patlabor221 | widget is it suposed to output: |
| 20:21:01 | patlabor221 | Please enter the name of the map file: |
| 20:21:01 | patlabor221 | (0, 0) |
| 20:21:01 | patlabor221 | (0, 1) |
| 20:21:01 | patlabor221 | (1, 1) |
| 20:21:01 | patlabor221 | (1, 2) |
| 20:21:02 | patlabor221 | (2, 2) |
| 20:21:04 | patlabor221 | (2, 3) |
| 20:21:06 | patlabor221 | (2, 4) |
| 20:21:11 | Widget | That's what it does for me,. |
| 20:21:23 | patlabor221 | and that's what it does after I make those small fixes |
| 20:21:35 | patlabor221 | even with those newlines |
| 20:22:10 | patlabor221 | want me to send it back to you? |
| 20:23:09 | Widget | case '\n': // If newline, go down, and reset i to the left |
| 20:23:09 | Widget | if(i > mazeWidth) |
| 20:23:09 | Widget | mazeWidth = i; |
| 20:23:09 | Widget | if (i > 0) |
| 20:23:09 | Widget | mazeWidth++; |
| 20:23:12 | Widget | I added that. |
| 20:23:20 | patlabor221 | there are 3 things to add |
| 20:24:10 | Widget | int mazeWidth = -1; |
| 20:24:11 | Widget | int mazeHeigth = 0; |
| 20:24:18 | Widget | case '\n': // If newline, go down, and reset i to the left |
| 20:24:18 | Widget | if(i > mazeWidth) |
| 20:24:18 | Widget | mazeWidth = i; |
| 20:24:18 | Widget | if (i > 0) |
| 20:24:18 | Widget | mazeWidth++; |
| 20:24:23 | Widget | int getWidth() { |
| 20:24:24 | Widget | return mazeWidth; |
| 20:24:24 | Widget | } |
| 20:24:25 | Widget | int getHeigth() { |
| 20:24:28 | Widget | return mazeHeight; |
| 20:24:29 | Widget | } |
| 20:24:31 | | Correct is probably .. no, im too stupid to give a normal answer |
| 20:24:31 | Widget | Correct? |
| 20:24:38 | patlabor221 | I jsut PMes it to you |
| 20:24:44 | | yes, patlabor221? |
| 20:24:44 | patlabor221 | ibot? |
| 20:24:49 | patlabor221 | IBOT!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:25:03 | | hmmm... bobots is Bobots are everywhere! Game over man! |
| 20:25:03 | patlabor221 | ibot: bobots |
| 20:25:10 | patlabor221 | hell yeah |
| 20:25:20 | doughecka | hello man |
| 20:25:32 | | *You* are, Mr Sexy-pants! |
| 20:25:32 | patlabor221 | ibot who is your daddy? |
| 20:25:37 | | ...but man is Displays the manual page for that given command or resource (that is, any system utility that isn't a command, such as a library function. Syntax: man (command). Where command is the name of the command or resource to get help on. Example: man ls gives help on the ls command.... |
| 20:25:37 | doughecka | ibot, man is <reply> Hello man |
| 20:25:42 | doughecka | oh |
| 20:25:46 | | Right back at you, doughecka. |
| 20:25:46 | doughecka | ibot dork |
| 20:25:52 | doughecka | har har |
| 20:25:57 | patlabor221 | ok engouth of that |
| 20:25:58 | | bzdoug is the leader! |
| 20:25:58 | doughecka | ibot bzdoug? |
| 20:26:05 | doughecka | k |
| 20:26:29 | doughecka | dX is installed |
| 20:26:48 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 20:26:53 | | i think OS is (Operating System) The program that allows you to access the basic functions of your computer. It is the minimum software required to run a program. The best one by far is the MacOS. |
| 20:26:53 | patlabor221 | what OS? |
| 20:26:55 | Widget | Aah! Now it doesn't print anything after I run it in Linux!!! |
| 20:27:08 | patlabor221 | that makes no sense |
| 20:27:46 | Widget | It seems to set the bounds to 14 0. |
| 20:27:55 | doughecka | well, MacOS IS the best.... |
| 20:27:58 | Widget | Hm.... could you dcc me your readMap.c? |
| 20:28:13 | patlabor221 | then you must have entered something wrong |
| 20:28:28 | patlabor221 | I am uping my entire project now |
| 20:28:30 | Widget | Could you send me your readMap.c? |
| 20:28:35 | Widget | OK. |
| 20:28:35 | doughecka | groans |
| 20:28:47 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/finalmaze.zip |
| 20:29:05 | patlabor221 | dougL what are you running? |
| 20:29:25 | doughecka | um |
| 20:29:31 | doughecka | for what? |
| 20:29:36 | | somebody said windows was a trap,...an evil pit of quicksand that conjures people away from being free. A small door to freedom can be found at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/WindowsPPPHowto http://www.linux.org or http://www.linux.com |
| 20:29:36 | doughecka | windows? |
| 20:29:38 | patlabor221 | your ass. |
| 20:29:47 | doughecka | hrm |
| 20:29:52 | patlabor221 | ok how do we make him responce only |
| 20:29:57 | doughecka | please |
| 20:30:08 | doughecka | um |
| 20:30:09 | Widget | Ya, that works. |
| 20:30:12 | Widget | I must have entered it wrong. |
| 20:30:13 | doughecka | you need to edit the bots code |
| 20:30:14 | patlabor221 | 98? 2k? |
| 20:30:17 | doughecka | both |
| 20:30:19 | patlabor221 | no no |
| 20:30:22 | doughecka | 98 on one |
| 20:30:26 | doughecka | 2000 on the other |
| 20:30:27 | | patlabor221: huh? |
| 20:30:27 | patlabor221 | Ibot: reponce only |
| 20:30:37 | Widget | patlabor221: Cool, thanks! |
| 20:30:40 | Widget | Let me try this on Windows. |
| 20:30:41 | patlabor221 | what one that P2501 won't run on |
| 20:30:42 | doughecka | you have to edit the config file |
| 20:30:48 | doughecka | 898 |
| 20:30:50 | doughecka | 98 |
| 20:30:50 | patlabor221 | no I've seen peole do it |
| 20:30:56 | patlabor221 | ohh |
| 20:31:03 | patlabor221 | BZFrank has said there are issues on 98 |
| 20:31:07 | doughecka | bah |
| 20:31:14 | doughecka | like what issues? |
| 20:31:16 | patlabor221 | he has a fix but I haven't seen the release |
| 20:31:19 | patlabor221 | like a crash |
| 20:31:23 | doughecka | yes |
| 20:31:26 | doughecka | crash is right |
| 20:31:30 | doughecka | boom |
| 20:31:33 | patlabor221 | try a real os |
| 20:31:38 | doughecka | flames, computer freezes |
| 20:31:39 | | Sorry, patlabor221, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 20:31:39 | patlabor221 | ibot: shut up |
| 20:31:45 | | doughecka: no idea |
| 20:31:45 | doughecka | ibot bzdoug? |
| 20:31:48 | patlabor221 | bobots |
| 20:31:49 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:31:53 | patlabor221 | see it worked |
| 20:31:55 | doughecka | bobots? |
| 20:31:59 | patlabor221 | you just gotta tell him to stuff it |
| 20:32:04 | | bobots is probably Bobots are everywhere! Game over man! |
| 20:32:04 | patlabor221 | ibot: bobots |
| 20:32:05 | | doughecka: excuse me? |
| 20:32:05 | doughecka | ibot stuff it |
| 20:32:10 | doughecka | darn |
| 20:32:17 | patlabor221 | you tell him to shut up |
| 20:32:25 | patlabor221 | that puts him in direct reponce mode |
| 20:32:34 | | de rien patlabor221 |
| 20:32:34 | patlabor221 | ibot: thanks |
| 20:32:47 | patlabor221 | see |
| 20:32:47 | | Sorry, doughecka, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 20:32:47 | doughecka | ibot shutup |
| 20:32:55 | doughecka | OS? |
| 20:32:59 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:33:06 | doughecka | how do you take it out of it? |
| 20:33:07 | patlabor221 | now install 2k on that thing |
| 20:33:18 | doughecka | sure |
| 20:33:21 | patlabor221 | i don't know, and I don't want to know |
| 20:33:21 | doughecka | dual boo |
| 20:33:22 | doughecka | t |
| 20:33:27 | patlabor221 | why dual? |
| 20:33:30 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:33:33 | patlabor221 | what do you need 98 for? |
| 20:33:43 | doughecka | cuz the 98 part does not have space for 2000 |
| 20:33:54 | doughecka | does upgrading need boot floopys? |
| 20:33:57 | patlabor221 | remove 98 |
| 20:33:58 | doughecka | floppyd? |
| 20:34:00 | doughecka | s? |
| 20:34:09 | patlabor221 | need, no |
| 20:34:19 | doughecka | I dont wanto to find 20 floppys to find out 18 of them are bad |
| 20:34:23 | patlabor221 | how large is the drive? |
| 20:34:29 | doughecka | and I need 4 to upgrade |
| 20:34:33 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:34:33 | patlabor221 | what? |
| 20:34:34 | doughecka | 3 gig |
| 20:34:42 | patlabor221 | just put the CD in and up it |
| 20:34:45 | doughecka | but part of it was Linux'tized |
| 20:34:47 | patlabor221 | form 98 |
| 20:34:50 | doughecka | it wont boot off the cd |
| 20:34:53 | patlabor221 | soo |
| 20:34:54 | doughecka | oh |
| 20:34:56 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:34:58 | doughecka | k |
| 20:35:00 | patlabor221 | you don't have too boot |
| 20:35:09 | patlabor221 | run the update from 98 |
| 20:35:22 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:36:04 | doughecka | oooppp |
| 20:36:06 | doughecka | s |
| 20:36:06 | patlabor221 | havent' you noticed that when you put the 2k disk in a 9x machine it gives you a message about the piss poor excuse for an os you are running and if you want to update it. |
| 20:36:11 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:36:20 | doughecka | it blue screen of death for me |
| 20:36:23 | doughecka | :( |
| 20:36:27 | patlabor221 | when you do what? |
| 20:36:30 | doughecka | nasty |
| 20:36:34 | doughecka | I put the cd in |
| 20:36:38 | doughecka | I turn around |
| 20:36:41 | patlabor221 | wow your 98 is fugged |
| 20:36:45 | doughecka | and it BSoD |
| 20:36:50 | patlabor221 | hit enter |
| 20:37:13 | doughecka | it says I have a audio cd ni the drive |
| 20:37:17 | doughecka | fine |
| 20:37:20 | doughecka | reboot I will |
| 20:37:21 | patlabor221 | were you playing a CD? |
| 20:37:26 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:37:26 | patlabor221 | and ejected it? |
| 20:37:39 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:37:39 | patlabor221 | was there another CD in there before that was in use? |
| 20:37:44 | doughecka | I ahve not put a audio cd in yet |
| 20:37:48 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:37:51 | doughecka | I rebooted |
| 20:37:58 | doughecka | blah |
| 20:38:01 | doughecka | rebooting... |
| 20:38:01 | patlabor221 | was there an app using the CD, looking for a disk? |
| 20:38:04 | doughecka | easy way out |
| 20:38:18 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:38:21 | doughecka | I dont think so |
| 20:38:29 | doughecka | it was a sound card driver cd |
| 20:38:35 | doughecka | so I installed drivers |
| 20:38:47 | patlabor221 | wow you actualy use the drivers that come with stuff |
| 20:38:55 | doughecka | system goes boom, I uninstall, reinstall of website, and it works |
| 20:38:56 | patlabor221 | no wonder you have so many problems |
| 20:39:05 | doughecka | :Z |
| 20:39:08 | patlabor221 | I never use drivers from CD |
| 20:39:12 | patlabor221 | they are allways way old |
| 20:39:15 | doughecka | yes |
| 20:39:19 | doughecka | very old |
| 20:39:25 | patlabor221 | then why put it in ? |
| 20:39:28 | doughecka | like craking with age old |
| 20:39:30 | patlabor221 | do you like pain? |
| 20:39:39 | doughecka | I did not have dsl at the time |
| 20:39:44 | patlabor221 | so |
| 20:39:51 | doughecka | so no drivers.... |
| 20:39:55 | doughecka | so I dug out the cd |
| 20:39:56 | patlabor221 | modem |
| 20:40:01 | doughecka | no modem |
| 20:40:07 | doughecka | no phone line nearby |
| 20:40:09 | patlabor221 | zip disk |
| 20:40:14 | doughecka | and the phone was busy |
| 20:40:15 | patlabor221 | flopy |
| 20:40:18 | doughecka | no zip disk |
| 20:40:21 | patlabor221 | cdr |
| 20:40:27 | doughecka | no cdr |
| 20:40:31 | patlabor221 | text printout |
| 20:40:32 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:40:35 | doughecka | ugh |
| 20:40:39 | doughecka | and OCR ot? |
| 20:40:44 | doughecka | yuk |
| 20:40:54 | patlabor221 | all of those things are better then the drivers on CDs |
| 20:40:54 | doughecka | oh goody |
| 20:40:57 | doughecka | cd is back |
| 20:41:25 | doughecka | of course I want to upgrade.... |
| 20:41:42 | doughecka | why would I put in there... |
| 20:41:44 | doughecka | bah |
| 20:41:56 | doughecka | the setup wont run |
| 20:42:00 | doughecka | I dont see it... |
| 20:43:09 | doughecka | bah |
| 20:43:36 | patlabor221 | then throw a tanturm and throw the keyboard |
| 20:43:42 | doughecka | ack |
| 20:43:51 | doughecka | its workin now |
| 20:44:07 | doughecka | have to prod it along |
| 20:44:11 | doughecka | ok |
| 20:44:14 | doughecka | upgrade? |
| 20:44:16 | doughecka | or clean? |
| 20:44:32 | patlabor221 | your call |
| 20:44:39 | doughecka | to upgrade, or not to upgrade, that is the question |
| 20:44:41 | patlabor221 | you got enought room for clean? |
| 20:44:47 | doughecka | or dinner time |
| 20:44:50 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:44:52 | doughecka | maybe |
| 20:44:59 | doughecka | after dinner I will choose |
| 20:45:00 | doughecka | ;) |
| 20:45:04 | patlabor221 | ahhh quiet time then |
| 20:47:26 | patlabor221 | cap: did you want to use one of those 2 models from last night? |
| 20:48:14 | patlabor221 | listens to enya to make the rage subside |
| 20:51:23 | sussudio | funny, that does quite the opposite for me |
| 20:52:06 | sussudio | i think they covered enya in a southpark episode |
| 20:54:27 | patlabor221 | ohh I am quite the opposet fellow |
| 20:54:32 | sussudio | http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/5473/enya.wav |
| 20:55:00 | patlabor221 | bah blocked for me |
| 20:55:06 | sussudio | blocked? |
| 20:55:23 | patlabor221 | yeah by our firewall |
| 20:55:31 | patlabor221 | our bandwith nazi |
| 20:55:32 | sussudio | just geocities? |
| 20:55:46 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:55:52 | patlabor221 | he dosn't like it |
| 20:55:58 | patlabor221 | he's very odd |
| 20:56:19 | sussudio | your admin has issues |
| 20:56:33 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hmm, not really :) |
| 20:57:02 | patlabor221 | ok then I'll make you another when I can |
| 20:57:13 | captain_proton | =) |
| 20:57:18 | patlabor221 | yes our admin does |
| 20:57:30 | patlabor221 | he's also only 18 and has no clue what he's doing |
| 20:57:43 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 20:57:46 | captain_proton | fire him, hire me |
| 20:57:49 | sussudio | why is it when you buy a good headphone all your other stuff just sounds like shit |
| 20:57:55 | patlabor221 | you cost too much |
| 20:58:02 | captain_proton | patlabor221: whats he workin for? |
| 20:58:12 | patlabor221 | like $10 an hour |
| 20:58:14 | patlabor221 | part time |
| 20:58:33 | patlabor221 | we are cheap ass bastards here |
| 20:58:37 | captain_proton | yeah, i'm somewhat more expensive than that |
| 20:58:40 | captain_proton | but not too much |
| 20:58:57 | patlabor221 | but you'd got change the servers to linux |
| 20:59:01 | captain_proton | then again i also know what i'm doing ;) |
| 20:59:10 | patlabor221 | it's an all windows net |
| 20:59:19 | patlabor221 | one lin box total |
| 20:59:28 | sussudio | you're using windows for servers? windows is for games silly rabbit! |
| 20:59:28 | patlabor221 | and it's not even suposed to be there |
| 20:59:47 | patlabor221 | 2kserver runs us very well |
| 20:59:57 | patlabor221 | we slap DAVE on the macs and we are set |
| 21:00:07 | patlabor221 | not exactly a large company |
| 21:00:08 | sussudio | yeah..... and it seeks out others to deliver code red to |
| 21:00:18 | patlabor221 | our firebox prevents that |
| 21:00:21 | patlabor221 | that is runing unix |
| 21:00:27 | sussudio | outgoing? |
| 21:00:32 | patlabor221 | both |
| 21:00:40 | patlabor221 | everythig runs throuhg the firebox |
| 21:00:43 | patlabor221 | in and out |
| 21:00:51 | sussudio | firewalls dont usually block that |
| 21:00:51 | patlabor221 | it's embedid unix tho |
| 21:01:07 | patlabor221 | it's a speical hardware thing |
| 21:01:14 | patlabor221 | not a regular computer |
| 21:01:28 | sussudio | oh one of those 'special' things with the admin:admin access |
| 21:01:29 | patlabor221 | it's got every god damned thing blocked both ways on it |
| 21:01:37 | patlabor221 | I wish |
| 21:01:42 | patlabor221 | then I could unblock IM |
| 21:02:18 | sussudio | i dont use IM. when people want to talk to me they can use IRC. |
| 21:04:27 | captain_proton | i only use IM for people i know offline |
| 21:05:24 | captain_proton | useful for getting their attention |
| 21:13:46 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:13:59 | captain_proton | patlabor221: care to send me one of those models (doesn't matter which) just for me to use for now? |
| 21:16:20 | doughecka | will 2000 install on a 1199 meg part? |
| 21:21:41 | doughecka | yippy, 2000 runs! |
| 21:21:55 | doughecka | now off to download and install... etc |
| 21:22:23 | sussudio | geez these guys SUCK on fastnet.cz |
| 21:22:42 | sussudio | it's like playing with bots |
| 21:33:22 | patlabor221 | wheee I just got a raise |
| 21:33:37 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 21:39:35 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:40:38 | doughecka | mandy eh? |
| 21:40:47 | mandy | i figured it out!! |
| 21:40:51 | mandy | lol |
| 21:41:17 | Nicole3 | hello |
| 21:41:19 | mandy | i'm not as stupid as u think |
| 21:41:28 | Nicole3 | hi mandy |
| 21:41:29 | doughecka | you figured out that the earth is blowing up tomorrow at 3:98 PM? |
| 21:41:45 | mandy | thats cool |
| 21:41:47 | mandy | hi Nicole |
| 21:42:18 | mandy | brb |
| 21:42:47 | captain_proton | wonders what mandy figured out |
| 21:43:19 | doughecka | wonders too |
| 21:43:42 | Nicole3 | hehe |
| 21:44:10 | mandy | lol |
| 21:44:16 | doughecka | yuk, I installed ISS |
| 21:44:19 | mandy | i figured out how to use irc |
| 21:44:26 | doughecka | oh |
| 21:44:29 | mandy | duh thats why i'm here |
| 21:44:34 | doughecka | thats, good |
| 21:44:49 | doughecka | what is your callsign in bzflag? |
| 21:44:58 | mandy | mandy |
| 21:46:29 | mandy | hmm |
| 21:48:09 | patlabor221 | who's on first? |
| 21:48:47 | mandy | hmm people don't talk much |
| 21:48:55 | sussudio | ok, it's hammertime. |
| 21:49:04 | patlabor221 | no they are all self absorbed :) |
| 21:49:19 | Nicole3 | i'm talking to too many other people |
| 21:49:27 | patlabor221 | how many? |
| 21:49:29 | mandy | lol |
| 21:49:33 | Nicole3 | 4 other people |
| 21:49:34 | Nicole3 | on IM |
| 21:49:37 | patlabor221 | like 35? |
| 21:49:37 | mandy | i'm talken to nobody |
| 21:49:51 | Nicole3 | cept us |
| 21:49:51 | patlabor221 | you can talk to me |
| 21:49:52 | Nicole3 | ppl |
| 21:49:57 | patlabor221 | I just got back |
| 21:50:04 | patlabor221 | form geting my raise :) |
| 21:50:34 | mandy | thats cool |
| 21:50:47 | patlabor221 | yeah a whoping 2.4% |
| 21:51:14 | patlabor221 | hey nichole, Ibot is back |
| 21:51:19 | mandy | thats cool |
| 21:51:21 | | no idea, patlabor221 |
| 21:51:21 | patlabor221 | Ibot: who is your daddy. |
| 21:51:28 | | *You* are, Mr Sexy-pants! |
| 21:51:28 | patlabor221 | Ibot: who is your daddy? |
| 21:51:30 | mandy | lolz |
| 21:51:32 | doughecka | hahah |
| 21:51:36 | patlabor221 | damn right |
| 21:51:50 | doughecka | sighs |
| 21:52:07 | patlabor221 | doug: did you run BZA on your GF2MX? |
| 21:52:16 | doughecka | not yet |
| 21:52:24 | doughecka | still installing 2000 |
| 21:52:26 | patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 21:52:35 | mandy | Bleh |
| 21:52:35 | doughecka | I am gonna though |
| 21:52:42 | patlabor221 | cus I want to make sure it still looks good on real hardware |
| 21:53:00 | doughecka | hmm, my GF2 card supports dual screen with a TV |
| 21:53:04 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:53:13 | doughecka | patlabor221: its only a 333 Mhz comp |
| 21:53:15 | patlabor221 | yes all MXs support twinview |
| 21:53:24 | doughecka | Mmm |
| 21:53:27 | captain_proton | is considering getting the gainward gf4 package |
| 21:53:29 | patlabor221 | still it's all display lists, it'll go fast |
| 21:53:37 | doughecka | yes yes |
| 21:53:42 | patlabor221 | I think I have a gainward in here |
| 21:53:51 | patlabor221 | it's got a huge fan |
| 21:53:52 | doughecka | by that time I will have a 3 Ghz comp |
| 21:53:59 | doughecka | ;) |
| 21:54:03 | doughecka | and a GF3 |
| 21:54:15 | patlabor221 | yeah and the resto fo the world will be running 4.3 terahertz |
| 21:54:31 | captain_proton | this is the only scary thing: http://www.hothardware.com/reviews/images/gain_4600/long_connectors.htm |
| 21:54:52 | patlabor221 | is that a mac card? |
| 21:55:05 | captain_proton | shouldn't be |
| 21:55:10 | patlabor221 | what's the adaper for? |
| 21:55:12 | patlabor221 | I don't have one |
| 21:55:35 | captain_proton | the first adapter is DVI to VGA |
| 21:55:37 | patlabor221 | only need those when you use the Digital LCD port for a regualr monior |
| 21:55:43 | patlabor221 | it's dual DV? |
| 21:55:46 | captain_proton | second is for the bundled shutter glasses :) |
| 21:55:47 | captain_proton | yep |
| 21:55:51 | captain_proton | comes with 2 converters |
| 21:55:51 | patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 21:55:53 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 21:55:59 | patlabor221 | well then there you go |
| 21:56:04 | mandy | doesn't know what ur talken about so just sits back and watche |
| 21:56:07 | mandy | watches* |
| 21:56:10 | patlabor221 | I have 1 DV and one VGA |
| 21:56:15 | patlabor221 | video cards |
| 21:56:27 | doughecka | oh |
| 21:56:38 | patlabor221 | cap wants to make his machine more beefy |
| 21:56:47 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:56:54 | doughecka | I can make mine dual monitors.... |
| 21:57:04 | doughecka | I have 2 cards.. |
| 21:57:04 | captain_proton | before i do any video card upgrades i need more ram and a second hard disk |
| 21:57:11 | patlabor221 | is one PCI? |
| 21:57:20 | patlabor221 | how much ram you have now? |
| 21:57:21 | doughecka | but mandrake had problems with the PICE one |
| 21:57:24 | captain_proton | 256 |
| 21:57:27 | captain_proton | :( |
| 21:57:29 | doughecka | patlabor221: 786 |
| 21:57:31 | patlabor221 | how do you live? |
| 21:57:35 | doughecka | RAM |
| 21:57:39 | patlabor221 | 256 cap? |
| 21:57:44 | patlabor221 | doug I know yours |
| 21:57:47 | captain_proton | yeah, just 256 |
| 21:57:48 | doughecka | oh |
| 21:57:52 | patlabor221 | cap at least tell me it's DDR |
| 21:57:58 | captain_proton | rambus |
| 21:58:00 | doughecka | yippy, 2000 boots |
| 21:58:02 | sussudio | ohwell. i guess 62-57 isnt bad |
| 21:58:05 | patlabor221 | oh I'm sorry |
| 21:58:07 | captain_proton | DDR on a p4 sucks donkey balls |
| 21:58:09 | mandy | lalala |
| 21:58:13 | patlabor221 | that is does |
| 21:58:17 | doughecka | hehe |
| 21:58:18 | patlabor221 | so mandy how's it goin? |
| 21:58:26 | doughecka | who is mandy? |
| 21:58:32 | captain_proton | and rdram costs the same |
| 21:59:17 | mandy | good |
| 21:59:36 | mandy | Mandy is that little vioce in your head. |
| 21:59:51 | patlabor221 | ohh that one |
| 21:59:52 | doughecka | oh, yes |
| 22:00:08 | doughecka | I rememeber when I threw it out |
| 22:00:14 | mandy | Yeah |
| 22:00:46 | patlabor221 | ohh man I would go insane without that voice |
| 22:00:55 | mandy | Yep |
| 22:01:07 | doughecka | ok, I locked it up in the corner |
| 22:01:26 | sussudio | the voice in my head says to drink tea and eat biscuits |
| 22:01:36 | doughecka | and annoy people? |
| 22:01:41 | doughecka | ;) |
| 22:01:48 | sussudio | no, i do that all on my own |
| 22:01:51 | mandy | lol |
| 22:01:57 | doughecka | oh yes |
| 22:01:59 | patlabor221 | no doug that's your voice that tells you do to that |
| 22:02:11 | sussudio | ofcourse my callsign helps a lot in that department |
| 22:02:22 | doughecka | GF card driver, or DX8.1 first? |
| 22:02:27 | patlabor221 | dx |
| 22:02:30 | doughecka | ok |
| 22:03:18 | patlabor221 | so mandy why are you in all our heads |
| 22:03:35 | doughecka | you should know |
| 22:03:36 | mandy | I don't know |
| 22:03:43 | mandy | I just am |
| 22:04:01 | sussudio | -|- (10_CC)_[08]_I'm_Mandy,_Fly_Me.mp3 (6,909,732 bytes 171kbps VBR Joint Stereo 5mins 24secs Genre:Pop Year:1979 Album:10 CC's Greatest Hits |
| 22:04:10 | sussudio | thank god i dont own any barry manilow |
| 22:04:38 | mandy | lol |
| 22:06:08 | mandy | Bleh |
| 22:06:16 | doughecka | bloh |
| 22:06:49 | patlabor221 | bleh? |
| 22:06:58 | mandy | blah |
| 22:07:13 | doughecka | bluh |
| 22:07:55 | mandy | blubber |
| 22:08:03 | patlabor221 | brb |
| 22:08:14 | doughecka | boohoo |
| 22:08:40 | mandy | lol brb |
| 22:10:38 | mandy | mmk back |
| 22:10:42 | doughecka | GF driver installed |
| 22:12:28 | mandy | blehhhhh |
| 22:13:36 | sussudio | a GF driver wouldnt work for me |
| 22:13:53 | patlabor221 | do you have a GF card? |
| 22:13:57 | sussudio | no |
| 22:14:08 | sussudio | i have an ati radeon |
| 22:14:09 | patlabor221 | or are you atempting to get a driver for your girl friend? |
| 22:14:21 | sussudio | i'm an excellent driver |
| 22:14:46 | patlabor221 | I see |
| 22:14:48 | doughecka | hmmm |
| 22:14:55 | doughecka | it did not install the driver... |
| 22:15:03 | sussudio | there IS no driver |
| 22:15:07 | doughecka | it comes up with 16 color |
| 22:15:12 | sussudio | wow |
| 22:15:14 | doughecka | :( |
| 22:15:16 | sussudio | that's like.... EGA |
| 22:15:38 | patlabor221 | did it tell you that it installed the driver and ask you for the signiature? |
| 22:15:42 | patlabor221 | when you installed? |
| 22:16:05 | doughecka | umm |
| 22:16:07 | doughecka | nope |
| 22:16:10 | patlabor221 | and when did I start doing tech support again? |
| 22:16:17 | patlabor221 | then you did not install it properly |
| 22:16:21 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:16:25 | doughecka | let me try it... |
| 22:16:42 | doughecka | it has a control panel |
| 22:16:50 | patlabor221 | WTF |
| 22:16:52 | doughecka | but the driver aint there |
| 22:16:52 | patlabor221 | it's an EXE |
| 22:16:55 | doughecka | yes |
| 22:16:59 | doughecka | I ran it |
| 22:17:06 | patlabor221 | what file did you install? |
| 22:17:08 | doughecka | it installed a control panel |
| 22:17:12 | doughecka | windows 2000 |
| 22:17:17 | doughecka | drivers |
| 22:17:19 | patlabor221 | exact file name |
| 22:17:37 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:18:07 | doughecka | nforce_udp_win2kxp_1.05 |
| 22:18:21 | patlabor221 | hmm well considering that NOT a video driver |
| 22:18:26 | doughecka | ? |
| 22:18:31 | patlabor221 | that's the dirver for AMD chipsets |
| 22:18:38 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:18:41 | patlabor221 | nfoce is there mobo chipset |
| 22:18:45 | patlabor221 | you want 30.82_winxp |
| 22:18:51 | doughecka | bleh, ok |
| 22:18:54 | patlabor221 | under VIDEO F"EN CARD |
| 22:19:11 | doughecka | ah, explians why it has audio drivers too |
| 22:19:17 | patlabor221 | *sigh* |
| 22:19:40 | doughecka | hehe |
| 22:20:05 | mandy | bleh |
| 22:20:07 | patlabor221 | why did you get those anyway |
| 22:20:14 | mandy | hehehe |
| 22:20:14 | patlabor221 | blerrrrrart |
| 22:20:22 | doughecka | hmm, I clicked on the drivers |
| 22:20:26 | Nicole3 | having fun? |
| 22:20:26 | doughecka | link |
| 22:20:37 | patlabor221 | what one there are 10 links |
| 22:20:39 | doughecka | much |
| 22:20:43 | Nicole3 | ok |
| 22:20:44 | Nicole3 | good |
| 22:20:46 | Nicole3 | :-) |
| 22:20:53 | Nicole3 | er *;-) |
| 22:21:04 | doughecka | oh, I clicked on nForce.... |
| 22:21:05 | patlabor221 | what is the * for? does he have a hat? |
| 22:21:12 | doughecka | sighs |
| 22:21:19 | doughecka | santa |
| 22:21:35 | patlabor221 | no that would be *<;-) |
| 22:21:41 | Nicole3 | no |
| 22:21:47 | doughecka | oh |
| 22:21:49 | Nicole3 | i did the wrong smilie |
| 22:21:50 | doughecka | right |
| 22:21:52 | Nicole3 | so i corrected it |
| 22:21:56 | Nicole3 | get it? |
| 22:22:03 | doughecka | yyeeess |
| 22:22:15 | Nicole3 | hehe, k |
| 22:22:53 | captain_proton | patlabor221: what is this: PFD_TYPE_RGBA |
| 22:23:20 | mandy | >:( |
| 22:23:24 | mandy | lolz |
| 22:23:53 | Widget | Everyone has heard that the loops have disbanded their team, right? |
| 22:24:10 | doughecka | yes |
| 22:24:12 | doughecka | why? |
| 22:24:15 | Widget | I don't know. |
| 22:24:18 | doughecka | did they? |
| 22:24:22 | captain_proton | because they want to join meq |
| 22:24:28 | Widget | But CapN (.0o0o0.) has changed his name to "please delete me". |
| 22:24:29 | doughecka | ooh, much better |
| 22:24:38 | doughecka | hehe |
| 22:24:43 | Widget | So obviously he does _not_ want to join meq. |
| 22:25:34 | Widget | In all the BZMessages, his name appears as "please delete me". |
| 22:25:35 | Widget | <http://www.bzflag.org/league/images/msgread.gif> <http://www.bzflag.org/league/images/team.gif> 2002-07-17 17:35:34 Loops vs. BZplease delete me |
| 22:25:43 | Widget | Re: Re: Re: Re: Match??please delete me |
| 22:26:34 | Widget | Hm... curiouser and curiouser. |
| 22:26:59 | captain_proton | pokes patlabor221 |
| 22:28:18 | patlabor221 | *sort* huh whataaaaaaa |
| 22:28:26 | mandy | pinches herself |
| 22:28:36 | mandy | ow |
| 22:28:37 | doughecka | slaps myself |
| 22:28:39 | Widget | So this is it? We're number two without fighting for it!?!? |
| 22:28:39 | captain_proton | LGE.cpp:91: implicit declaration of function `int ReleaseCapture(...)' |
| 22:28:42 | Widget | That's not fair!!!! |
| 22:28:46 | mandy | lol |
| 22:28:47 | Widget | Evil loops. |
| 22:28:49 | patlabor221 | ok one of those was cute, the other was nasty |
| 22:28:50 | Widget | They did this on purpose. |
| 22:29:13 | patlabor221 | ohh you don't need that any more |
| 22:29:42 | patlabor221 | does the LGE you have use SDL? |
| 22:29:58 | patlabor221 | I've made LGE work on windows |
| 22:30:01 | patlabor221 | and lin |
| 22:30:19 | patlabor221 | let me find it for you |
| 22:30:23 | captain_proton | yes, it uses SDL |
| 22:30:40 | patlabor221 | that's proalby the version before lin cleanup |
| 22:30:55 | captain_proton | it looks like there are some linux cleanups in here |
| 22:31:00 | captain_proton | LGE.cpp:85: `PFD_TYPE_RGBA' undeclared (first use this function) |
| 22:31:08 | captain_proton | and LGE.cpp:92: implicit declaration of function `int ReleaseCapture(...)' |
| 22:31:12 | captain_proton | those are the 2 lingering errors |
| 22:31:40 | patlabor221 | you can remove the call to release capture |
| 22:31:44 | patlabor221 | it's a windows mouse thing |
| 22:31:45 | captain_proton | m_iBufferMode = PFD_TYPE_RGBA; <-- can i just kill this line? it doesn't seem to be used elsewhere in LGE.cpp |
| 22:31:47 | patlabor221 | not needed |
| 22:31:51 | patlabor221 | yeah that too |
| 22:32:06 | patlabor221 | the SDL one does not let you define the PFD |
| 22:32:19 | patlabor221 | the win one did |
| 22:32:26 | patlabor221 | but it was more for editors |
| 22:32:37 | captain_proton | PFD? |
| 22:32:39 | patlabor221 | the SDL one will just be used for game apps |
| 22:32:47 | patlabor221 | pixel format descriptor |
| 22:34:39 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 22:34:44 | captain_proton | can do pixel formats in SDL too |
| 22:34:58 | patlabor221 | I know I just didn't hook it up yet |
| 22:35:03 | patlabor221 | I didn't like my API |
| 22:35:25 | patlabor221 | I will add it later |
| 22:35:33 | patlabor221 | when I enumerate all the modes and stuff |
| 22:36:02 | patlabor221 | for the game client I just want to specify ether windowed, or a mode |
| 22:36:16 | patlabor221 | not let them ask for stuff and maybe get it or not |
| 22:36:33 | patlabor221 | and now I think it's disco inferno time |
| 22:36:57 | patlabor221 | wow where did I get the Iron Cheif theme song? |
| 22:37:28 | sussudio | god i hope i never find out |
| 22:38:32 | patlabor221 | burn baby burn |
| 22:38:51 | sussudio | babyburning is illegal in 32 states |
| 22:38:59 | patlabor221 | in mine? |
| 22:39:08 | sussudio | ask your congressman |
| 22:39:10 | captain_proton | slaps patlabor221 for doing char = NULL |
| 22:39:22 | patlabor221 | tells cap to get a real compiler |
| 22:39:34 | sussudio | msvc? |
| 22:39:41 | captain_proton | i do have a real compiler |
| 22:39:45 | captain_proton | i'm just making it be anal |
| 22:39:55 | patlabor221 | I know, I can make mine anal too |
| 22:40:05 | patlabor221 | yeah he is useing stuff that I las did on msvc |
| 22:40:21 | captain_proton | int isspace(...) <-- ? |
| 22:40:37 | patlabor221 | tells if it's a whitespace or not |
| 22:40:53 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:40:58 | captain_proton | wonders what header patlabor221 forgot to #include |
| 22:41:06 | patlabor221 | int isspace( int c ); |
| 22:41:14 | patlabor221 | <ctype.h> |
| 22:41:21 | captain_proton | yep |
| 22:41:29 | patlabor221 | it's insluded in windows |
| 22:41:37 | patlabor221 | I had to add that for my lin verison |
| 22:41:40 | patlabor221 | now I know :) |
| 22:41:53 | patlabor221 | I had never made anything for lin |
| 22:41:57 | patlabor221 | just mac and win |
| 22:42:02 | patlabor221 | and comodore 64 |
| 22:42:29 | patlabor221 | but can't quite make BZA so prety on that last one |
| 22:42:57 | mandy | hmm |
| 22:43:50 | doughecka | hey hey |
| 22:43:51 | patlabor221 | hmm? |
| 22:43:58 | doughecka | whos on my VNC |
| 22:44:00 | mandy | lol i'm bored |
| 22:44:07 | captain_proton | makes all of patlabor221's data types match on the fscanf's |
| 22:44:16 | patlabor221 | yay |
| 22:44:27 | patlabor221 | well it's not allways exciting here |
| 22:44:40 | patlabor221 | and now I have to go talk to "the man" |
| 22:44:58 | mandy | oh yes |
| 22:47:46 | captain_proton | _BAIL_ON_NULL; ??? |
| 22:48:00 | captain_proton | erp |
| 22:48:01 | patlabor221 | ???? |
| 22:48:08 | patlabor221 | but the man is not in |
| 22:48:29 | captain_proton | nevermind |
| 22:48:38 | captain_proton | just had to change another NULL to '\0' to make it work |
| 22:48:49 | patlabor221 | did I actualy make a think that said bail on null? |
| 22:49:06 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 22:49:15 | patlabor221 | wow what the hell was I thinking |
| 22:49:21 | captain_proton | // just easyer this way |
| 22:49:21 | captain_proton | #define _BAIL_ON_NULL if (*current == '\0') return NULL |
| 22:49:22 | patlabor221 | wait is it in the OBJ reader? |
| 22:49:28 | captain_proton | shame you can't speel either |
| 22:49:39 | captain_proton | yeah, in GetNextObjLine |
| 22:49:41 | patlabor221 | that must be some old stuff |
| 22:49:42 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:49:54 | patlabor221 | I was still in C class when I made that part |
| 22:50:08 | patlabor221 | suppa code recycle |
| 22:50:25 | captain_proton | argg |
| 22:50:33 | captain_proton | case sensitive on the #include's!!!!!!!! |
| 22:50:40 | captain_proton | well |
| 22:50:41 | patlabor221 | I know I know |
| 22:50:46 | captain_proton | it links all nicely to LGE.a now :) |
| 22:51:17 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara LGE]$ make |
| 22:51:17 | captain_proton | g++ -Wall -c 3dUtils.cpp |
| 22:51:17 | captain_proton | g++ -Wall -c LGE.cpp |
| 22:51:17 | captain_proton | g++ -Wall -c Model.cpp |
| 22:51:17 | captain_proton | g++ -Wall -c ViewCull.cpp |
| 22:51:17 | captain_proton | ar rc LGE.a 3dUtils.o |
| 22:51:21 | captain_proton | [jupiter@bhaskara LGE]$ |
| 22:51:23 | captain_proton | beautiful :) |
| 22:51:25 | captain_proton | err |
| 22:51:27 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:51:33 | patlabor221 | wheeeeeeee |
| 22:51:39 | patlabor221 | I should send you my test |
| 22:51:43 | captain_proton | makes it actually link everything |
| 22:51:45 | mandy | bleh |
| 22:51:55 | mandy | talken about computers |
| 22:51:57 | patlabor221 | merft! |
| 22:52:20 | patlabor221 | well more of a tank game |
| 22:52:29 | patlabor221 | then the actual computers |
| 22:52:34 | mandy | ohh |
| 22:52:36 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:52:39 | mandy | well w/e |
| 22:53:00 | patlabor221 | w/e |
| 22:53:01 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 22:53:23 | patlabor221 | ahh what ever |
| 22:53:42 | patlabor221 | sometimes I am slow to pick up on the new slang of the youngins |
| 22:53:48 | mandy | whatever |
| 22:53:53 | mandy | yeah |
| 22:54:02 | mandy | lol right |
| 22:54:05 | patlabor221 | wonders if he's the oldest one here |
| 22:54:17 | captain_proton | patlabor221: whats the Time directory? |
| 22:54:42 | patlabor221 | it's a class the wraps up queryPerformance counter |
| 22:54:45 | mandy | you are an old fart |
| 22:54:50 | patlabor221 | I must be |
| 22:55:14 | patlabor221 | the class tells how long it's been in seconds since the last frame and since app start |
| 22:55:37 | patlabor221 | I don't know what there is like it on lin |
| 22:55:56 | doughecka | 2501 look great |
| 22:56:00 | doughecka | but its sllloooww |
| 22:56:06 | patlabor221 | ok how bout BZA? |
| 22:56:07 | doughecka | must be the chip in it |
| 22:56:09 | doughecka | ok |
| 22:56:12 | doughecka | testing that |
| 22:56:25 | patlabor221 | make with the powerslides :) |
| 22:56:31 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:56:34 | patlabor221 | brb |
| 22:56:56 | mandy | hmm |
| 22:57:00 | patlabor221 | b |
| 22:58:07 | patlabor221 | cap, you want a test app for LGE? |
| 22:58:09 | patlabor221 | it's tiny |
| 22:58:15 | doughecka | link? |
| 22:58:37 | doughecka | oh |
| 22:58:41 | doughecka | found it |
| 22:58:50 | patlabor221 | is your name cap? |
| 22:59:06 | patlabor221 | cap: www.artemisgames.com/LGECMDTest.cpp |
| 22:59:22 | patlabor221 | just inits LGE and makes a whirly thing |
| 23:00:03 | patlabor221 | did you find the BZA test doug? |
| 23:00:45 | captain_proton | strangeties |
| 23:00:56 | patlabor221 | hwo so? |
| 23:01:10 | captain_proton | its using up 100% processor but i don't see a window |
| 23:01:35 | patlabor221 | yay the virus is complete you are now my slave |
| 23:02:05 | captain_proton | hah |
| 23:02:19 | patlabor221 | I have it working on my lin machine |
| 23:03:09 | doughecka | ok |
| 23:03:18 | doughecka | heck.no-ip.com, screen shot up |
| 23:03:53 | captain_proton | Create() is returning false |
| 23:04:04 | patlabor221 | ick what is that crap at the top |
| 23:04:06 | patlabor221 | odd |
| 23:04:09 | patlabor221 | crap gota go |
| 23:04:15 | patlabor221 | beback in about an hour or so |
| 23:06:04 | mandy | mmk |
| 23:08:03 | [BZ]Ruudi | night |
| 23:09:18 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 23:09:59 | mandy | brb |
| 23:11:12 | [BZ]Ruudi | huh neverwinter nights are pretty nice one... |
| 23:11:51 | [BZ]Ruudi | and runs ok even on TNT |
| 23:14:09 | BZFrank | hi |
| 23:15:34 | sussudio | hi BZFrank, have you annoyed a server today? |
| 23:16:29 | BZFrank | annoyed? |
| 23:16:47 | sussudio | yes, by shouting at them, for instance. |
| 23:17:36 | Widget | hihihihi, BZFrank! |
| 23:17:51 | BZFrank | no, I never shout |
| 23:17:53 | sussudio | rule #1: kill the loser with the GM |
| 23:18:01 | BZFrank | hi widget! |
| 23:18:05 | Widget | just finished her comp sci assignment! Woohoo! |
| 23:18:09 | sussudio | rule #2: shout at everyone |
| 23:18:48 | sussudio | #3: profit! |
| 23:18:57 | BZFrank | I just told them: thanks for the target practice, as I loged out with 60 points highscore after 15 minutes ;) |
| 23:19:02 | | doughecka? |
| 23:19:02 | doughecka | ibot? |
| 23:19:14 | doughecka | hey BZFrank! |
| 23:19:17 | captain_proton | 'lo BZFrank |
| 23:19:17 | BZFrank | widget: *grins* glad to hear ;) |
| 23:19:21 | doughecka | got p2501 running! |
| 23:19:22 | BZFrank | hi captain! |
| 23:19:23 | doughecka | woohoo |
| 23:19:26 | doughecka | its slow! |
| 23:19:31 | BZFrank | doug: new graphics card? |
| 23:19:43 | doughecka | on a 333 Mhz computer with a GF2MX400 card |
| 23:19:51 | doughecka | with 64 megs of video ram |
| 23:19:57 | doughecka | and 786 megs of system ram |
| 23:20:02 | BZFrank | try 16 bit textures |
| 23:20:07 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:20:07 | doughecka | ok |
| 23:20:59 | doughecka | -16bot? |
| 23:21:01 | doughecka | bit? |
| 23:21:20 | BZFrank | -16bit also set your desktop depth to 16 bit |
| 23:21:31 | doughecka | ok |
| 23:21:44 | BZFrank | (if it is at 32 bit, otherwise set it to 32 bit and run p2501 just so...) |
| 23:22:16 | BZFrank | for some reason my GF2MX can't run p2501 in 16 bits |
| 23:22:35 | doughecka | yes |
| 23:22:38 | doughecka | .5 FPS |
| 23:22:38 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:22:42 | doughecka | :( |
| 23:22:46 | doughecka | but 32 bit is good |
| 23:22:51 | BZFrank | that means software renderer |
| 23:22:52 | doughecka | only a little jerky |
| 23:22:55 | doughecka | yes |
| 23:23:05 | captain_proton | BZFrank: explain this error to me: Couldn't find matching GLX visual |
| 23:23:18 | sussudio | -|- (Time,_The)_[02]_Jerk_Out_(Sexy_Edit).mp3 (6,992,747 bytes 202kbps VBR Joint Stereo 4mins 37secs Genre:R&B Year:1990 Album:Jerk Out (CD Single) |
| 23:23:30 | BZFrank | sdl tried hard but could not find what it looked for - all is lost, abort |
| 23:23:42 | BZFrank | enough explanation? ;) |
| 23:24:05 | captain_proton | i can't understand why its failing though |
| 23:24:18 | BZFrank | neither do I, at this point is is plain SDL |
| 23:24:18 | captain_proton | SDL_SetVideoMode(800, 600, 0, SDL_OPENGL) |
| 23:24:38 | BZFrank | it is a bit more complex here |
| 23:25:34 | BZFrank | if ((Screen = SDL_SetVideoMode( w, h, bpp, video_flags )) == NULL ) { |
| 23:25:47 | BZFrank | fprintf(stderr, "Couldn't set GL mode: %s\n", SDL_GetError()); |
| 23:25:49 | BZFrank | ... |
| 23:26:01 | doughecka | still, I am gonna upgrade to 1.3 GHz |
| 23:26:05 | doughecka | should be faster |
| 23:26:09 | BZFrank | where videoflags is SDL_OPENGLBLIT |
| 23:26:13 | captain_proton | eww |
| 23:26:15 | captain_proton | why OPENGLBLIT? |
| 23:26:29 | BZFrank | because I need also blitting abilities for the hud |
| 23:27:05 | captain_proton | why not just set an ortho mode and do it in gl? |
| 23:27:29 | BZFrank | have you treid with a 1024x200 texture? does not work on all hardware |
| 23:27:50 | BZFrank | btflag scales it puny little hud, that is ok, but mine is too large |
| 23:28:06 | captain_proton | well first of all the texture should be 1024x256 |
| 23:28:20 | captain_proton | 200 is not a power of 2 |
| 23:28:30 | BZFrank | still is does not work *AND* eats up texture memory for no purpose |
| 23:28:38 | captain_proton | true |
| 23:28:42 | captain_proton | but OPENGLBLIT is nasty |
| 23:28:50 | captain_proton | and you're probably losing performance because of it :P |
| 23:28:56 | captain_proton | hmm, go figure - this works now |
| 23:29:12 | BZFrank | baby - 500 fps here? speaking performance ;) |
| 23:30:29 | captain_proton | haah |
| 23:31:48 | BZFrank | ok, with vsync on it is only 60 (TFT has 60 Hz) ;) |
| 23:33:02 | BZFrank | btw got stencil shadows on now |
| 23:33:16 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 23:33:26 | BZFrank | maybe i'll do self shadowing next |
| 23:33:52 | BZFrank | little time these days |
| 23:33:57 | captain_proton | soft shadows :) |
| 23:34:28 | BZFrank | easy, just multipass ;) |
| 23:34:41 | captain_proton | BZFrank: you got an opinion on the gainward gf4? |
| 23:34:57 | BZFrank | only read the tests in the magazins |
| 23:35:35 | BZFrank | I have a Leadtek, BIG cooler, bad VGA quality but does not matter as it is on a TFT anyway |
| 23:35:46 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:35:54 | captain_proton | my biggest concern is that its only got DVI outs |
| 23:35:58 | captain_proton | so i'd have to use a converter |
| 23:36:01 | captain_proton | which means bad quality |
| 23:36:07 | BZFrank | no, the DVI has analog |
| 23:36:25 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 23:36:33 | doughecka | there is both analog and digital DVI |
| 23:36:38 | BZFrank | AFAIK all GF4 has analog outputs, some as VGA some on teh DVI connector |
| 23:36:45 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:36:47 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: !!!!!!! |
| 23:37:19 | BZFrank | if you look at the DVI - there are four pins in 2 x 2 at the left side with a shielding in between, that is the analog out |
| 23:38:12 | BZFrank | still an adaper is needed, but the line quality of all GF4 cards is rather bad anyway (in comparison to e.g. Matrox) |
| 23:39:17 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 23:39:34 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:39:47 | captain_proton | i could probably twinview up my gf3 with the proper adapter and another monitor |
| 23:40:04 | BZFrank | have you 2 AGP ports? ;) |
| 23:40:29 | doughecka | why do I blow up in p2501? I shoot, but I blow up |
| 23:40:42 | captain_proton | BZFrank: no, the card has 2 outputs |
| 23:40:49 | doughecka | I can shoot, but ut blows up once in while |
| 23:41:24 | BZFrank | doug: this is a know bug if the frame rate is too low ;) fixed in the current release |
| 23:41:40 | doughecka | oh? |
| 23:41:46 | BZFrank | don't drive so fast for now ;) |
| 23:41:47 | doughecka | could I get the cirrent release? |
| 23:41:50 | doughecka | ;) |
| 23:41:54 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:41:55 | doughecka | ok |
| 23:41:57 | BZFrank | soon, ok :) |
| 23:42:04 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:44:33 | BZFrank | doug: what fps do you get? |
| 23:45:06 | captain_proton | BZFrank: where the hell is that slacker roommate of yours? |
| 23:45:28 | BZFrank | slacker roommate? |
| 23:45:49 | captain_proton | hmm, perhaps you do not live together anymore |
| 23:45:50 | captain_proton | oma |
| 23:46:12 | BZFrank | ah, busy learning theoretical physics I think |
| 23:46:26 | captain_proton | still? how long can it take? |
| 23:46:27 | BZFrank | get his oral exams in 20 something days |
| 23:47:09 | BZFrank | he nearly destroyed my Xbox a week ago as he played Halo for 20 hours to cool himself off from learning ;) |
| 23:47:18 | captain_proton | 20 hours straight? |
| 23:47:19 | captain_proton | wow |
| 23:47:33 | BZFrank | well, he did a clean walkthough |
| 23:47:56 | BZFrank | need a new controller soon ... ;) |
| 23:48:15 | doughecka | BZFrank: hmm 16 maybe |
| 23:48:35 | doughecka | 30 sometimes |
| 23:48:42 | doughecka | it jumps aournd |
| 23:49:04 | BZFrank | thats slow... need to make some tweaks so some GFX coudl be turned off or down |
| 23:49:25 | BZFrank | try option -novsync ! |
| 23:49:47 | captain_proton | BZFrank: point me to an intro to cg programming |
| 23:50:02 | BZFrank | nvidia ? ;) |
| 23:50:11 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 23:50:18 | captain_proton | nobody's got any good introductory texts |
| 23:50:25 | BZFrank | I noticed this also |
| 23:50:50 | BZFrank | you could try the Microsoft Direct X 9 documentation, MS nearly took over CG directly |
| 23:51:46 | doughecka | ok |
| 23:53:01 | captain_proton | ms is guaranteed to *not* have anything introductory |
| 23:53:24 | BZFrank | at least not for free |
| 23:53:36 | doughecka | now it says 69 FPS, but it still jerks around, must be my 333 celeron |
| 23:53:39 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:53:59 | BZFrank | describe the jerking |
| 23:54:18 | BZFrank | does the tank move not smooth? |
| 23:54:50 | captain_proton | grrr |
| 23:55:02 | captain_proton | the cgc install created a /usr/local |
| 23:56:05 | captain_proton | moves stuff around |
| 23:56:49 | BZFrank | doug: does anything else run in the background? e.g. antivirus software or so? |
| 23:57:39 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:57:42 | doughecka | no |
| 23:57:46 | doughecka | its a clean install |
| 23:58:04 | doughecka | the tank is smooth, but it jerks every couple seconds |
| 23:58:17 | doughecka | like its not keeping up |
| 23:58:19 | BZFrank | that what I mean |
| 23:59:07 | BZFrank | press CRTL-Alt-Delete and see what processes are running |
