| 00:00:05 | patlabor221 | so 0 and 1 for TP 1 and 2 and 3 for TP 2 |
| 00:00:08 | captain_proton | patlabor221: comments are just stripped out - they can be anywhere |
| 00:00:13 | patlabor221 | ok thanks cap |
| 00:00:27 | patlabor221 | so if you want 2 fully linked Teleporters you need 4 links |
| 00:00:34 | Noodleman | i have that, but how do i know whoch side is 0 and which is 1? |
| 00:00:53 | doughecka | good question... |
| 00:00:57 | patlabor221 | the first side is the "front" or the Y+ side |
| 00:01:01 | patlabor221 | I think |
| 00:01:07 | doughecka | iLLf8d! |
| 00:01:15 | doughecka | sorry for not responding.. |
| 00:01:16 | Noodleman | ok, i'll just mess with it |
| 00:01:22 | patlabor221 | if you put a link in then it will show you where it comes out and goes in |
| 00:01:26 | doughecka | it was hidden behind everything... |
| 00:01:56 | doughecka | Noodleman: also make sure that the teleports X is 0 and y is 2+ |
| 00:02:02 | doughecka | in scale |
| 00:02:18 | Noodleman | why's that? |
| 00:02:22 | patlabor221 | yeah it's the X + side is the "first Side" |
| 00:02:23 | doughecka | you get stuck.. |
| 00:02:28 | doughecka | like my map |
| 00:02:31 | Noodleman | nhehe |
| 00:02:32 | patlabor221 | cus they are implementded "oddly" |
| 00:02:33 | Noodleman | ok |
| 00:02:43 | doughecka | also |
| 00:02:47 | doughecka | to keep track of links |
| 00:02:55 | doughecka | click on the link in the elements... |
| 00:03:02 | doughecka | and a ribbon apears... |
| 00:03:13 | doughecka | between the teleports its linking |
| 00:03:19 | doughecka | cool eh? |
| 00:03:37 | patlabor221 | the wierd thing is that the side IDs are sequental |
| 00:03:40 | doughecka | and it shows which side its going from/to |
| 00:03:50 | patlabor221 | so Side ID 2 is the "front" of TP 2 |
| 00:03:52 | doughecka | aha... that hows.. |
| 00:03:58 | patlabor221 | where 3 is TP2' |
| 00:04:01 | patlabor221 | s back side |
| 00:04:31 | patlabor221 | that "ribon" will also show 2 Icons that show the in and out side for the TP |
| 00:04:43 | patlabor221 | green is "IN" and red is "out" |
| 00:04:51 | doughecka | yea... and they highlight.... |
| 00:04:57 | doughecka | very slick patlabor221 |
| 00:05:26 | patlabor221 | It realy needs a pulldown for the TPS and a checkbox for front and back |
| 00:05:31 | patlabor221 | then it would be easyer |
| 00:05:39 | doughecka | MUCH easyer... |
| 00:10:23 | doughecka | tsk |
| 00:10:30 | doughecka | is away: 30 min....... |
| 00:16:46 | patlabor221 | bahhh the entire world/element/object thing needs to be riped anew. |
| 00:17:34 | doug_school | why? |
| 00:17:41 | patlabor221 | elelemtns are needed |
| 00:17:45 | doug_school | ah |
| 00:17:55 | patlabor221 | they are just containers for objects |
| 00:17:57 | Widget | doug_school has school? |
| 00:18:12 | doug_no_school | not after hours |
| 00:18:18 | patlabor221 | dupilacate vars for all the anmes. |
| 00:18:26 | doug_no_school | hmmm |
| 00:18:32 | doug_no_school | how hard is that? |
| 00:18:52 | doug_no_school | nooodleman: having luck? |
| 00:18:52 | patlabor221 | hard? |
| 00:18:56 | patlabor221 | not at all |
| 00:18:59 | patlabor221 | just takes time |
| 00:19:10 | doug_no_school | you make it sound like its the worse thing to do |
| 00:19:19 | doug_no_school | ;) |
| 00:19:34 | doug_no_school | is away: 30 min |
| 00:19:44 | Noodleman | i can't seem to make the teleporters not make you stuck |
| 00:19:49 | Noodleman | i did what you said |
| 00:20:16 | patlabor221 | look at an existing map does and look at it's TP values |
| 00:20:18 | patlabor221 | they are picky |
| 00:20:27 | Noodleman | ok |
| 00:20:33 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:20:41 | Noodleman | my teleporter is on top of a box |
| 00:21:08 | doughecka | one of my teleports are X = 0, Y = 5, Z = 20.16 |
| 00:21:27 | patlabor221 | what is the TPs size? |
| 00:21:33 | doughecka | Y |
| 00:21:38 | doughecka | and Z |
| 00:21:48 | doughecka | Y is width |
| 00:21:56 | doughecka | Z is tallness |
| 00:22:12 | doughecka | X is fattyness... |
| 00:22:14 | doughecka | ;0 |
| 00:22:28 | Noodleman | crashed... |
| 00:22:30 | Noodleman | brb |
| 00:22:32 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:23:15 | Noodleman | x=0 y=5 z=20 in scale... |
| 00:23:19 | doughecka | yes |
| 00:23:24 | doughecka | mine is that way |
| 00:23:30 | patlabor221 | check your border |
| 00:23:32 | Noodleman | x=9.42 in position |
| 00:23:40 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:23:46 | Noodleman | on top of a 9.42 tall box |
| 00:23:50 | doughecka | raise it to 9.43 |
| 00:23:54 | Noodleman | sorry, 7=9.42 |
| 00:23:54 | doughecka | and try it... |
| 00:23:58 | Noodleman | y |
| 00:24:03 | Noodleman | grrrrr |
| 00:24:06 | doughecka | to see if its that |
| 00:25:24 | doughecka | aha! I got standing water on top of my buildings! |
| 00:26:33 | Noodleman | now it won't teleport me |
| 00:26:37 | Noodleman | just the bullets |
| 00:26:44 | Noodleman | .01 too high |
| 00:26:49 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:26:50 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:26:57 | doughecka | its very picky |
| 00:27:04 | Noodleman | nbut otherwise i get stuck |
| 00:27:09 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:27:27 | Noodleman | does it being a 1.7e4 server make a difference? |
| 00:27:29 | Noodleman | it shouldn't |
| 00:27:51 | doughecka | no |
| 00:29:02 | Noodleman | any ideas? |
| 00:29:07 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:29:42 | doughecka | try making it 9.43 and jumping into it? |
| 00:29:52 | doughecka | ack |
| 00:29:53 | doughecka | brb |
| 00:30:01 | Noodleman | 9.42 works when i jump |
| 00:30:04 | Nicole | hilo people |
| 00:30:13 | Noodleman | hey |
| 00:30:22 | Noodleman | sup? |
| 00:30:33 | Nicole | nothin |
| 00:30:38 | Nicole | finished homework |
| 00:30:43 | Nicole | sooooo extremely happy |
| 00:30:47 | Noodleman | i bet |
| 00:30:52 | Nicole | yes |
| 00:31:10 | Noodleman | i homeschool, so i have homework all day long :-P |
| 00:31:18 | Nicole | oooo |
| 00:34:28 | Noodleman | captain_proton: do you have any ideas as to why my teleporters are sticky on top of a box? |
| 00:34:41 | captain_proton | sticky? |
| 00:34:48 | Noodleman | i get stuck |
| 00:35:20 | captain_proton | you sure the teleporter exits to the top of the box? |
| 00:35:37 | captain_proton | teleporter.z needs to be box.z + box.height |
| 00:35:38 | Noodleman | the box is 9.42 high, and when i have the teleporter 9.42 off the ground, i get stuck |
| 00:35:44 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:35:55 | captain_proton | sure its exact? |
| 00:35:55 | patlabor221 | usualy they penatrate the box by a little |
| 00:36:08 | Noodleman | when i have the teleporter 9.43, it won't teleport |
| 00:36:15 | patlabor221 | make it 9.41 |
| 00:36:40 | Noodleman | i got stuck when i had the teleporter off the ground by 7 |
| 00:36:42 | patlabor221 | litle bit of overlap |
| 00:36:52 | Noodleman | will that make a difference? |
| 00:37:05 | captain_proton | overlap is bad |
| 00:37:17 | Noodleman | ok, i'll try it |
| 00:37:29 | captain_proton | i put on my pants. SAVED |
| 00:37:35 | Noodleman | LOL |
| 00:43:35 | doughecka | I am back |
| 00:43:50 | patlabor221 | damn was I on crack when I wrote this |
| 00:43:56 | patlabor221 | it's a cluster f.. |
| 00:44:18 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:44:45 | doughecka | I am back |
| 00:44:48 | Noodleman | blankety-blank windows!! |
| 00:44:51 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:45:09 | Noodleman | captain_proton: i still get stuck |
| 00:45:17 | doughecka | hmm, no undo.... |
| 00:45:21 | doughecka | tskt sk |
| 00:45:26 | captain_proton | Noodleman: dcc me the world file |
| 00:45:31 | Noodleman | ok |
| 00:45:31 | patlabor221 | ohh shut it with the tsks |
| 00:45:42 | doughecka | sry |
| 00:45:53 | patlabor221 | like you could do better |
| 00:46:04 | Noodleman | how do i go about dcc'ing that to you? |
| 00:46:07 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:46:44 | doughecka | you using trillian? |
| 00:46:52 | Noodleman | no, chatzilla |
| 00:46:56 | doughecka | oh... |
| 00:46:57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:47:00 | Noodleman | on windows 98 |
| 00:47:04 | doughecka | right click on his name maybe? |
| 00:47:08 | doughecka | and click DCC? |
| 00:47:21 | doughecka | chatzilla might not have DCC in it |
| 00:47:30 | Noodleman | nothing there that says DCC or anything like it |
| 00:47:34 | Noodleman | it should |
| 00:47:42 | Noodleman | it has everything else hehe |
| 00:48:03 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:48:05 | doughecka | hmm |
| 00:48:06 | doughecka | oops |
| 00:48:08 | Noodleman | anyone else using chatzilla? |
| 00:48:20 | doughecka | deleted a sidewalk... |
| 00:49:30 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 00:50:12 | patlabor221 | captain_proton: do you have to have unique names in the UI lists still? |
| 00:50:55 | captain_proton | perhaps *shrug* |
| 00:51:14 | doughecka | patlabor221: if you had groups support in bzedit, could you move the whole groups around as one object? |
| 00:51:29 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 00:51:32 | patlabor221 | anything can be done |
| 00:51:34 | doughecka | ok |
| 00:51:51 | doughecka | its just IF it WILL be done... |
| 00:51:52 | doughecka | ;) |
| 00:52:04 | Noodleman | i thought i saw something in there about groups |
| 00:52:20 | Noodleman | is that experimental? |
| 00:52:22 | patlabor221 | there is an interface |
| 00:52:27 | Noodleman | nok |
| 00:52:27 | doughecka | nice... |
| 00:52:30 | patlabor221 | no backend code |
| 00:52:53 | doughecka | ah |
| 00:53:16 | Noodleman | well, get your butt in gear! ;-) |
| 00:53:28 | doughecka | haha |
| 00:54:05 | captain_proton | Noodleman: teleporters have to have their base -higher- than the box |
| 00:54:09 | captain_proton | there can't be any overlap |
| 00:54:09 | patlabor221 | with that atitide you expect me to work on it? |
| 00:54:12 | captain_proton | or you get stuck |
| 00:54:41 | Noodleman | ok, but i tried just .01 over the box, and it wouldn't teleport |
| 00:54:55 | doughecka | Noodleman: be carefull around patlabor221... |
| 00:55:02 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:55:20 | patlabor221 | today is NOT a good day |
| 00:55:37 | Noodleman | yeah, windows developers can get an attitude from all that frustration they deal with |
| 00:55:39 | Noodleman | :-P |
| 00:55:47 | doughecka | lol |
| 00:55:56 | patlabor221 | no we get atitude form the windows bigotry |
| 00:56:07 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:56:17 | patlabor221 | only OS i"ve had problems with today is lin |
| 00:56:25 | doughecka | Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers! |
| 00:56:29 | Noodleman | on the part of the windows zealots or the linux elitists? |
| 00:56:33 | patlabor221 | doug shut up |
| 00:56:39 | doughecka | :( |
| 00:56:54 | patlabor221 | they each have there strenghts and there faults |
| 00:57:11 | patlabor221 | it's a Tool not a damned religon |
| 00:57:20 | Noodleman | it's just that windows has more of the latter, and linux, the former ;-) |
| 00:57:31 | doughecka | spoken like a saint |
| 00:57:34 | patlabor221 | well humand are iditots |
| 00:57:48 | patlabor221 | you use what works for you |
| 00:58:08 | patlabor221 | I used to be a huge mac feind |
| 00:58:14 | Noodleman | i happen to not likt blue screens every half hour |
| 00:58:15 | patlabor221 | then I found out it realy donsn't mater |
| 00:58:16 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:58:27 | patlabor221 | so do I, thats why I don't use (X crap |
| 00:58:32 | Noodleman | i do like os X |
| 00:58:32 | patlabor221 | 9x crap |
| 00:58:47 | patlabor221 | 2k and XP never die on me |
| 00:58:51 | doughecka | lets get back to making worlds.... shall we? |
| 00:59:02 | Noodleman | i also don't like shelling out 200 bucks for the 2000 pro *upgrade* |
| 00:59:07 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:59:12 | patlabor221 | then don't |
| 00:59:25 | patlabor221 | use an OS wher you have to build and confiugure everything |
| 00:59:44 | patlabor221 | and where it's all an incompatable jumble of crap |
| 01:00:00 | Noodleman | i like my os where i don't have to worry about the security hole or worm that's being written tomorrow |
| 01:00:06 | doughecka | or use a mac... |
| 01:00:20 | patlabor221 | I don't worry about that cus I don't run servers |
| 01:00:23 | Noodleman | ever hear of LSB? |
| 01:00:27 | doughecka | /join #heated_arguaments |
| 01:00:30 | patlabor221 | if I did, then I would proalby use lin |
| 01:00:35 | Noodleman | linux standards base |
| 01:00:36 | patlabor221 | doug SHUT UP |
| 01:00:53 | doughecka | ok... |
| 01:01:04 | patlabor221 | no I have not |
| 01:01:11 | Noodleman | this isn't a heated argument just a relaxing debate |
| 01:01:23 | Noodleman | debates make my day, no week |
| 01:01:27 | patlabor221 | I hear that they are trying to standardise on kernal stuff |
| 01:01:29 | doughecka | hehe |
| 01:01:35 | patlabor221 | but that there are issues |
| 01:01:47 | Noodleman | brb |
| 01:02:34 | patlabor221 | wheeeeee 394 errors |
| 01:02:34 | doughecka | ok dokey, whos wants to try my map? |
| 01:02:43 | doughecka | wow |
| 01:02:45 | patlabor221 | and 1 warning |
| 01:02:54 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:03:09 | doughecka | captain_proton: you there? |
| 01:03:09 | Widget | I'll try. |
| 01:03:15 | Widget | heck.no-ip.com 5155? |
| 01:03:17 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:03:39 | Noodleman | ok, i have to skedaddle now |
| 01:03:50 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:03:51 | doughecka | cya |
| 01:03:51 | Noodleman | cya pat, doug, cappy |
| 01:03:52 | doughecka | :( |
| 01:03:55 | captain_proton | doughecka: busy |
| 01:03:58 | doughecka | k |
| 01:04:00 | doughecka | cya |
| 01:12:43 | Widget | hihihi, thetrooper. |
| 01:12:47 | doughecka | Widget? |
| 01:12:50 | Widget | I want to visit the Moon. |
| 01:12:53 | thetrooper | hi there Widget!! |
| 01:13:02 | Widget | Olà. |
| 01:13:11 | captain_proton | omg |
| 01:13:21 | captain_proton | BZFlag did something mildly bzflag-related |
| 01:13:57 | Widget | Tell us another. |
| 01:15:24 | thetrooper | hahahaah, this game rocks!! :D |
| 01:15:50 | doughecka | captain_proton;? |
| 01:16:04 | captain_proton | he replied to a thread in bzflag-patches |
| 01:17:02 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:17:14 | doughecka | Widget: I could make a moon map |
| 01:17:30 | captain_proton | gravity isn't transmitted to the client in 1.7 |
| 01:19:16 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:19:28 | doughecka | just the look of the moon |
| 01:19:32 | doughecka | craters and stuff |
| 01:19:54 | captain_proton | ah |
| 01:19:59 | doughecka | rocket ships |
| 01:20:09 | doughecka | aliens |
| 01:20:11 | doughecka | etc |
| 01:20:16 | doughecka | moonish stuff |
| 01:20:18 | doughecka | cheese |
| 01:20:19 | patlabor221 | all out of boxes? |
| 01:20:26 | doughecka | hmm, very small boxes |
| 01:20:32 | thetrooper | hey people, where can I find any icon for BZflag?? |
| 01:20:45 | patlabor221 | the windows executable has one |
| 01:21:05 | patlabor221 | and it is also in the windows resources in CVs |
| 01:21:17 | patlabor221 | as a .ico file |
| 01:21:18 | thetrooper | okay, thanks, lemme take a look at that |
| 01:21:46 | doughecka | I need iLLf8d's code for making random trees |
| 01:21:51 | doughecka | iLLf8d? |
| 01:22:33 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:22:37 | doughecka | now I have a all blue world |
| 01:22:39 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:22:50 | doughecka | all the walk ways and stuff are blue |
| 01:24:50 | Noodleman | ok, i'm back |
| 01:25:07 | Noodleman | where can i find your blue world, doug? |
| 01:25:48 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:25:54 | doughecka | my server |
| 01:26:02 | doughecka | in bzflag |
| 01:26:06 | doughecka | heck.no-ip.com |
| 01:26:18 | Noodleman | could you upload it to ftp.noodleroni.com/incoming ? |
| 01:26:27 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:26:31 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:26:40 | Noodleman | anonymous fto |
| 01:26:43 | Noodleman | p |
| 01:26:49 | doughecka | its also on my http server |
| 01:27:00 | Noodleman | http://heck.no-ip.com/ ? |
| 01:27:08 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:27:11 | doughecka | its called |
| 01:27:14 | doughecka | workon.map |
| 01:27:37 | Noodleman | ok |
| 01:27:44 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:27:50 | doughecka | I am not quite done |
| 01:27:53 | Noodleman | is that linux or windows apache? |
| 01:27:55 | Noodleman | just curious |
| 01:27:56 | doughecka | let me add some teleports |
| 01:27:58 | doughecka | windows |
| 01:28:01 | Noodleman | ah |
| 01:28:08 | Noodleman | why not use iis? |
| 01:28:14 | Noodleman | you have 2000, right? |
| 01:28:17 | doughecka | dont have it installed |
| 01:28:19 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:28:20 | Noodleman | ok |
| 01:28:30 | doughecka | and I wanted perl/cgi/python |
| 01:29:04 | Noodleman | apache 1.3 on windows isn't really stable or mature |
| 01:29:07 | Noodleman | 2.0 is tho |
| 01:29:12 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:29:14 | doughecka | I have 1,3? |
| 01:29:15 | doughecka | .3? |
| 01:29:19 | Noodleman | but it doesn't support php yet |
| 01:29:25 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:29:26 | Noodleman | 1.3.26 |
| 01:29:29 | doughecka | runs fine for me |
| 01:29:32 | doughecka | its a service... |
| 01:29:36 | Noodleman | yeah |
| 01:29:37 | doughecka | so I set it |
| 01:29:39 | doughecka | and forget it |
| 01:29:40 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:29:42 | Noodleman | hhe |
| 01:29:45 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:30:23 | Noodleman | what the heck is weirdx? |
| 01:30:31 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:30:33 | doughecka | oh |
| 01:30:41 | captain_proton | its almost as fun as weirdy |
| 01:30:43 | doughecka | a ssh/xserver in java |
| 01:30:50 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:30:55 | doughecka | nearly got it workin |
| 01:31:06 | doughecka | wierdx.com maybe... |
| 01:32:25 | Noodleman | i see |
| 01:32:49 | thetrooper | doughecka: hey dude, that bzflag18.jpg file is a screenshot of a kinda "for-3d-glasses" bzflag? |
| 01:32:55 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:32:58 | thetrooper | wow |
| 01:33:04 | thetrooper | where can I get it?? :D |
| 01:33:06 | doughecka | very neat |
| 01:33:07 | doughecka | um |
| 01:33:17 | doughecka | ask captain_proton |
| 01:33:21 | thetrooper | okay |
| 01:33:35 | thetrooper | captain_proton: are you there dude?? :D |
| 01:33:47 | Noodleman | i wish i had 3d glasses :-P |
| 01:33:53 | doughecka | Noodleman: they are free |
| 01:34:06 | Noodleman | where can i get a pair? |
| 01:34:39 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:34:42 | doughecka | let me see... |
| 01:35:49 | doughecka | http://www.spacekids.com/freestuff/ |
| 01:35:49 | doughecka | http://www.rainbowsymphony.com/freestuff.html |
| 01:36:00 | doughecka | I got it from te second one |
| 01:36:21 | Noodleman | do i have to pay shipping? |
| 01:36:30 | Noodleman | is a cheapskate |
| 01:36:55 | captain_proton | thetrooper: yes? |
| 01:36:58 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:37:06 | doughecka | a SASE |
| 01:37:11 | doughecka | thats it |
| 01:37:11 | thetrooper | captain_proton: hello dude!! where can I get that 3d bzflag?? |
| 01:37:22 | captain_proton | 3d bzflag where? |
| 01:37:52 | Noodleman | ok, that's fair enough |
| 01:37:57 | captain_proton | isn't bzflag already 3d? |
| 01:37:58 | doughecka | analgph bzflag |
| 01:38:00 | patlabor221 | yes up tp 410 errors |
| 01:38:07 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 01:38:18 | doughecka | patlabor221: lol |
| 01:38:20 | captain_proton | the anaglyph (red-green) mode is built into 1.8, which is VERY early development code |
| 01:38:42 | captain_proton | if you want to check out cvs and build it, you can turn it on by pressing ` (goes to console) and typing 'set displayView anaglyph-stereo' |
| 01:38:59 | thetrooper | cooooool!!! |
| 01:39:03 | thetrooper | lemme do it NOW!! :D |
| 01:40:42 | Widget | What is red green mode? |
| 01:40:53 | Widget | What's anaglyph mode? |
| 01:41:11 | captain_proton | anaglyph is a method of making 2d-images look 3d |
| 01:41:15 | thetrooper | Widget: http://heck.no-ip.com/bzflag18.jpg |
| 01:41:28 | captain_proton | you have glasses with one lens red and one green/blue, and it makes each eye see a different picture |
| 01:41:33 | captain_proton | so it appears '3d' |
| 01:42:03 | Widget | Ah. |
| 01:42:52 | thetrooper | compiling CVS version :D |
| 01:42:56 | scanline | captain_proton: when will you have support for polarized stereoscopic projectors >:) |
| 01:43:22 | scanline | mmm full color projected 3D bzflag... |
| 01:43:30 | captain_proton | scanline: as soon as someone donates one for me to test it |
| 01:43:38 | doughecka | ok |
| 01:43:39 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:43:41 | doughecka | its bed time |
| 01:43:47 | doughecka | is away: ZZzzzzzzz |
| 01:43:48 | Noodleman | ok cya |
| 01:43:55 | scanline | captain_proton: hehe.. just apply for a grant, they're only like $20,000 :) |
| 01:44:05 | captain_proton | 15 i though |
| 01:44:06 | captain_proton | thought* |
| 01:44:14 | scanline | something like that |
| 01:44:26 | doug_no_school | oh yea |
| 01:44:33 | doug_no_school | get the latest workon.map |
| 01:44:35 | doug_no_school | and test it |
| 01:44:38 | doug_no_school | if it work OK |
| 01:44:43 | doug_no_school | put it up on the server |
| 01:44:44 | doug_no_school | :) |
| 01:44:45 | doug_no_school | thx |
| 01:44:47 | captain_proton | scanline: you hear? i'm exhibiting just about all the symptoms of west nile |
| 01:44:52 | Noodleman | did you upload to ftp.noodleroni.com/incoming ? |
| 01:44:58 | scanline | captain_proton: dang... that's bad! |
| 01:45:07 | doug_no_school | no |
| 01:45:10 | captain_proton | not really, 'tis mild |
| 01:45:11 | Noodleman | are you serious? |
| 01:45:11 | doug_no_school | cant |
| 01:45:16 | doug_no_school | I am in bed |
| 01:45:17 | doug_no_school | ok |
| 01:45:18 | doug_no_school | cya |
| 01:45:18 | scanline | is it contagious? |
| 01:45:22 | Noodleman | ok |
| 01:45:27 | captain_proton | not from person to person |
| 01:45:35 | doug_no_school | http://heck.no-ip.com |
| 01:45:36 | captain_proton | only transmitted via mosquito |
| 01:45:38 | doug_no_school | you can get it there |
| 01:45:44 | Noodleman | ok |
| 01:45:45 | scanline | heh.. "is it contagious" <-- dumb question |
| 01:48:08 | captain_proton | i feel proud |
| 01:48:18 | captain_proton | to be one of the about 0.5% who could actually get it |
| 01:50:36 | thetrooper | aaaaahhh /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lvorbisfile |
| 01:51:09 | captain_proton | www.xiph.org ;) |
| 01:51:34 | Noodleman | which distro? |
| 01:52:16 | Noodleman | throoper: which distro are you using? |
| 01:52:20 | Noodleman | grrrrrrr |
| 01:52:30 | Noodleman | thetrooper: which distro are you using? |
| 01:52:37 | thetrooper | Noodleman: debian! |
| 01:53:11 | Noodleman | you should just be able to apt-get install libvorbis-dev but i'm not 100% sure |
| 01:53:56 | Noodleman | i use redhat |
| 01:54:01 | thetrooper | Noodleman: lemme try... I tried libvorbisfile3 and libvorbisfile-ruby but it didn't work... I am also almost sure it will work, let's see |
| 01:54:05 | Noodleman | it's much better than debian :-P |
| 01:54:14 | thetrooper | NO! |
| 01:54:15 | thetrooper | :D |
| 01:54:34 | Noodleman | debian seems really hacked together to me for some reason |
| 01:54:54 | thetrooper | hehehe |
| 01:54:59 | thetrooper | hey, it worked! thanks :D |
| 01:55:02 | captain_proton | whispers... |
| 01:55:03 | captain_proton | gentoo |
| 01:55:11 | Noodleman | but, woody does have gnome 2 now, doesn't it? |
| 01:55:16 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:55:21 | thetrooper | yeah |
| 01:55:26 | thetrooper | I'm on gnome2 |
| 01:55:41 | Noodleman | i was told woody would never have kde 3 grrrrrrr |
| 01:56:37 | Noodleman | apt is one thing i do love about debian |
| 01:56:58 | Noodleman | you can get apt for redhat, but it just isn't as cool |
| 01:57:14 | captain_proton | apt isn't nearly as cool as emerge |
| 01:57:20 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 01:57:26 | Noodleman | gentoo freak :-) |
| 01:57:40 | Noodleman | what's different about emerge? |
| 01:58:06 | captain_proton | the package tree is stored locally |
| 01:58:17 | captain_proton | so you can use other tools to search, etc |
| 01:58:27 | Noodleman | i think so is apt, isn't it, troop? |
| 01:58:39 | thetrooper | hey dudes, what do I press for opening the console here?? |
| 01:58:41 | thetrooper | '? |
| 01:58:55 | captain_proton | ` |
| 01:58:59 | captain_proton | ~ key |
| 01:59:09 | thetrooper | hmm okay lemme try |
| 01:59:17 | Noodleman | you download the dependency tree to your hard drive every once in a while on debian |
| 01:59:38 | thetrooper | auto-apt searches for packages too |
| 02:00:04 | Noodleman | one thing that sucks about debian is dselect |
| 02:00:17 | Noodleman | and the hackyness of the whole thing |
| 02:00:53 | Noodleman | and the fact that i know how to build rpms |
| 02:00:54 | Noodleman | :-P |
| 02:01:02 | captain_proton | yay for deinterlaced television |
| 02:01:15 | Noodleman | huh? |
| 02:01:47 | captain_proton | deinterlacing on my tv card |
| 02:01:48 | iLLf8d | Noodleman noone actually uses dselect |
| 02:01:56 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:01:59 | iLLf8d | apt-get baby =) |
| 02:02:16 | thetrooper | ehhhh... no success trying to open the console... is it in-game or in menu?? |
| 02:02:23 | thetrooper | dselect sucks hard |
| 02:02:26 | Noodleman | well if you need to find a package's name, you have to use something |
| 02:02:32 | thetrooper | apt-cache |
| 02:02:45 | thetrooper | apt-cache search <string> |
| 02:02:46 | Noodleman | hey jzaun |
| 02:02:50 | jzaun | hey |
| 02:02:51 | Noodleman | cool |
| 02:02:58 | Noodleman | i didn't know about that |
| 02:02:59 | captain_proton | emerge search <string> :) |
| 02:03:03 | thetrooper | :D |
| 02:03:34 | Noodleman | jzaun: where do you get your worlds? do you ask for them, or do you just find them somewhere? |
| 02:03:37 | thetrooper | hey dudes, might it be because my keyboard is non-us?? it might not be mapping the keys correcly... |
| 02:03:54 | jzaun | people send them to me... I'm working on putting them up for dload |
| 02:04:00 | Noodleman | ok |
| 02:04:02 | captain_proton | thetrooper: do you have a backtick key? |
| 02:04:09 | thetrooper | captain_proton: ` |
| 02:04:11 | Noodleman | cool |
| 02:04:12 | thetrooper | this one? |
| 02:04:19 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 02:04:26 | thetrooper | it's shift + ' |
| 02:04:32 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 02:04:40 | captain_proton | edit your .bzflag18 and change the keybinding |
| 02:05:20 | thetrooper | kay |
| 02:05:38 | Noodleman | jzaun: what kind of database do you use for your worlds? |
| 02:05:39 | patlabor221 | its usualy the on the same key as ~ |
| 02:06:00 | Noodleman | my code goes through an xml file |
| 02:06:29 | jzaun | captain_proton (PHP guy): is there any way to limit how long fread waits before giving up? |
| 02:06:42 | Noodleman | i have a column for the world's file name |
| 02:06:44 | jzaun | Noodleman: right now, no database, working on php/mysql now |
| 02:06:56 | Noodleman | i see |
| 02:07:19 | Noodleman | i'd be more than happy to share my ugly code if you're interested :-) |
| 02:07:50 | jzaun | Noodleman: Currently working on some php scripts to automate some things and make my control script work for multi bzflag servers |
| 02:07:52 | captain_proton | jzaun: nope |
| 02:08:08 | thetrooper | WOW |
| 02:08:08 | Noodleman | what are you using fread for? |
| 02:08:26 | captain_proton | yaay for bubsy in all its 1600x1200 deinterlaced glory |
| 02:08:29 | jzaun | Noodleman: getting player scores directly from a running bzflag server |
| 02:08:32 | thetrooper | yeah, it still needs some more time of coding but wow |
| 02:08:52 | thetrooper | well dudes... I gotta go to bed now... |
| 02:08:56 | Noodleman | oh yeah, i was going to ask you how you do that |
| 02:09:05 | Noodleman | did you hack the server to do that? |
| 02:09:09 | Noodleman | cya |
| 02:09:10 | thetrooper | thank you all guys!! |
| 02:09:30 | thetrooper | i'll be back! :D |
| 02:10:37 | patlabor221 | whoot 288 errors |
| 02:54:03 | patlabor221 | must ponder if he wants to support multiple selection |
| 02:56:55 | iLLf8d | night all |
| 05:34:57 | MrApathyCream | d46 pm jzaun |
| 05:35:38 | BZFlag | jzaun: I'd be nice if you read the worlds from the SF database and then encouraged people to upload there. ;-) |
| 05:36:14 | BZFlag | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=423059&group_id=3248&func=browse |
| 05:37:12 | captain_proton | oooh |
| 05:37:13 | captain_proton | d46 |
| 05:37:13 | captain_proton | :) |
| 05:37:15 | MrApathyCream | yupyup |
| 05:53:34 | captain_proton | what just happened? |
| 05:53:54 | captain_proton | GABLARGH! |
| 05:54:05 | captain_proton | people should not post bugs to ezboard without duping at sf |
| 06:14:26 | MrApathyCream | whatcha gonna do |
| 06:14:40 | MrApathyCream | peeps don't like sf, for some reason, dont know why |
| 06:16:02 | captain_proton | its like a hindu nightmare! three voices in one body! |
| 06:16:09 | captain_proton | he shot herself! |
| 06:17:36 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 06:18:21 | captain_proton | i wonder how you steer one of these junks...to hollywood |
| 06:19:20 | MrApathyCream | how does e8 dev go? |
| 06:20:20 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 06:20:21 | captain_proton | e8 |
| 06:20:31 | MrApathyCream | bwahah |
| 06:20:40 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 07:01:36 | bomber | moin |
| 07:02:04 | jzaun | early moin/late night, its 4AM here |
| 07:09:04 | bomber | :o) |
| 07:43:47 | jzaun | ahh well, 5:00am, bed time, catch you all in a few hours |
| 07:55:37 | scanline | is away: ZzzZzzZzzzzz.... |
| 08:26:36 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 08:26:36 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 08:26:38 | bzbot | fred (G): -33 (93-126). @Terminator (P): 0 (0-0). prodan (penguins) (R): 34 (85-51). 1of3 (R): 1 (5-4). kid jr. (G): -21 (33-54). Walter Wolf (The Elite) (R): -5 (84-89). intrix (G): 7 (102-95). |
| 09:02:54 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:02:54 | [TeA]98 | ibot, ducati |
| 09:02:55 | bzbot | anaconda (R): -1 (44-45). prodan (penguins) (R): 60 (168-108). Walter Wolf (The Elite) (R): -29 (142-171). intrix (G): -24 (170-194). bombini (G): 32 (96-64). |
| 09:39:38 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:39:38 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 09:39:38 | bzbot | prodini (penguins) (R): -6 (4-10). MirekCz (R): -5 (16-21). Banana split (G): 4 (10-6). Comalv (R): 0 (0-0). Metal Magic The Ace Of Aces (R): 0 (13-13). Marquis de Sade (SuSE lizzard) (G): -3 (4-7). Roadkill (G): 7 (11-4). |
| 09:42:34 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:42:34 | [TeA]98 | ibot, ducati |
| 09:42:35 | bzbot | prodan (penguins) (R): 6 (11-5). MirekCz (R): -9 (22-31). Banana split (G): -1 (15-16). Comalv (R): -2 (0-2). Metal Magic The Ace Of Aces (R): -3 (19-22). Marquis de Sade (SuSE lizzard) (G): -8 (9-17). Roadkill (G): 15 (23-8). rm -r (G): 4 (7-3). |
| 10:07:39 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:07:39 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot, ducati |
| 10:07:39 | bzbot | Yeti (R): -5 (14-19). anaconda (R): 4 (13-9). Roadkill (G): 34 (83-49). rm -r (G): 14 (67-53). |
| 10:13:37 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:13:37 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 10:13:37 | bzbot | anaconda (G): 2 (3-1). Yeti (R): -11 (21-32). legion (penguins) (R): -5 (3-8). Roadkill (G): 42 (103-61). |
| 10:39:53 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:39:53 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 10:39:53 | bzbot | anaconda (G): 20 (70-50). Makagovivo (G): -4 (3-7). @ (B): 0 (0-0). tealini (penguins) (R): -2 (0-2). prodan (penguins) (R): 0 (11-11). Roadkill (G): 57 (149-92). legion (penguins) (R): -7 (11-18). |
| 11:22:40 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:22:40 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 11:22:41 | bzbot | Lucidor (G): -4 (9-13). |
| 11:36:28 | bomber | is away: I'm busy |
| 11:41:13 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:41:13 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot, ducati |
| 11:41:14 | bzbot | prodan (penguins) (R): 14 (36-22). Heidi (G): -1 (11-12). 1of3 (G): 0 (7-7). Lucidor (R): -6 (1-7). Vandor (R): -1 (1-2). coffee (G): 1 (1-0). |
| 12:07:57 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:07:57 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 12:07:58 | bzbot | xabbu (G): 5 (15-10). Terminator (R): -2 (0-2). prodan (penguins) (R): -3 (0-3). Lucidor (R): -49 (46-95). coffee (G): 37 (78-41). Rawen Ra (G): 33 (72-39). |
| 12:08:47 | csm | bzfquerylong turkey.moongroup.com 7500 |
| 12:08:49 | bzbot | kernel panic (r): 66 (89-23). Gil (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 12:17:01 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:17:01 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 12:17:01 | bzbot | xabbu (G): 11 (41-30). Terminator (R): -3 (15-18). prodan (penguins) (R): -2 (16-18). Lucidor (R): -68 (56-124). intrix (the elite) (G): 1 (6-5). Gil (R): -2 (3-5). Rawen Ra (G): 41 (93-52). |
| 12:21:50 | csm | bzfquerylong turkey.moongroup.com 7500 |
| 12:21:52 | bzbot | kernel panic (r): 66 (89-23). |
| 12:35:15 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:35:15 | CLQ | ibot: ducati |
| 12:35:16 | bzbot | intrix (R): -6 (9-15). prodan (penguins) (R): 3 (51-48). Lucidor (R): -89 (90-179). bom-bom(penguins) (R): -4 (3-7). Terminator (G): 3 (10-7). Rawen Ra (G): 56 (133-77). Yeti (G): 5 (32-27). |
| 12:50:12 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:50:12 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 12:50:13 | bzbot | zimbo (G): 3 (21-18). intrix (R): -9 (42-51). prodan (penguins) (R): -1 (72-73). Lucidor (R): -101 (118-219). MirekCz (R): -6 (13-19). Rawen Ra (G): 70 (163-93). Yeti (G): 15 (74-59). |
| 12:51:27 | sussudio | yawns |
| 12:53:21 | sussudio | can anyone give their opinion on my map....... |
| 12:55:11 | sussudio | if anyone's awake that is |
| 13:16:01 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:16:01 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 13:16:02 | bzbot | damn (R): 6 (10-4). Baraven Bra (G): 3 (11-8). @@ (P): 0 (0-0). phr (R): -7 (9-16). Greek (G): -5 (5-10). |
| 13:19:46 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:19:46 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 13:19:47 | bzbot | damn (R): 2 (15-13). Greek (G): -5 (10-15). |
| 13:27:54 | doug_school | I would, but cant |
| 13:30:50 | doug_school | is away: class |
| 13:33:09 | captain_proton | makes coffee |
| 13:34:12 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 13:34:12 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 13:34:13 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 13:34:55 | doug_school | tsk |
| 13:35:30 | | 9 |
| 13:35:30 | doug_school | ibot (2 * 6) - 3 |
| 13:37:17 | captain_proton | go to class doug |
| 13:37:43 | doug_school | I am in class.... |
| 13:37:45 | doug_school | :) |
| 13:38:34 | doug_school | math class... |
| 13:38:36 | doug_school | :) |
| 13:39:07 | captain_proton | now kids, 'x' is what we call an unknown. |
| 13:39:53 | strayer | hi... |
| 13:41:12 | doug_school | hoooo |
| 13:41:31 | doug_school | captain_proton: y is what? |
| 13:41:36 | doug_school | and z... |
| 13:41:44 | doug_school | z I know is up... |
| 13:42:50 | captain_proton | no, y is up |
| 13:42:52 | captain_proton | z is out ;) |
| 13:43:30 | doug_school | ah |
| 13:43:50 | captain_proton | at least for my purposes |
| 13:43:56 | captain_proton | for you, z is likely up |
| 13:44:07 | captain_proton | creams his coffee |
| 13:45:05 | sussudio | anyone wanna try sussudio.dyndns.org:5155 ..? |
| 13:45:33 | captain_proton | why the hell not |
| 13:45:44 | sussudio | k. connection's crap though probably. |
| 13:47:42 | doug_school | screenshot? |
| 13:48:59 | strayer | sussudio: i did not found Ur server in the list... |
| 14:00:18 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:00:18 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 14:00:20 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 14:00:35 | jzaun | moin all |
| 14:01:06 | doug_school | hey jzaun |
| 14:02:48 | bomber | 17:11 moin ? |
| 14:02:55 | bomber | :o) |
| 14:03:26 | jzaun | actually its 11:11AM moin, but my bed time wat 5:00AM so its all good |
| 14:03:47 | doug_school | lol |
| 14:06:30 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:06:30 | bomber | ibot: ducati? |
| 14:06:30 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 14:06:49 | sussudio | no i'm not on the server list..... 2 users is laggy enough |
| 14:07:01 | doug_school | bzfquerylong sussudio.dyndns.org 5155 |
| 14:07:02 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 14:07:06 | doug_school | tsk |
| 14:07:07 | sussudio | i killed it |
| 14:07:13 | doug_school | k |
| 14:07:16 | doug_school | screenshot? |
| 14:07:22 | sussudio | err |
| 14:07:26 | sussudio | how |
| 14:07:28 | doug_school | hmm |
| 14:07:30 | doug_school | dunno |
| 14:07:32 | doug_school | windows? |
| 14:07:51 | sussudio | bzfquerylong sussudio.dyndns.org 5155 |
| 14:07:53 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 14:07:56 | doug_school | ah |
| 14:07:57 | sussudio | ok i'll try |
| 14:08:02 | doug_school | ok |
| 14:08:08 | captain_proton | polarpro: a prescription beer for older americans with natural alaskan alcohol and prozac |
| 14:08:15 | doug_school | pl.. |
| 14:10:47 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/bzf-ss.jpg |
| 14:10:54 | doug_school | ok |
| 14:11:00 | doug_school | thanks |
| 14:11:03 | sussudio | k |
| 14:11:21 | doug_school | cool looking! |
| 14:11:28 | sussudio | tnx |
| 14:11:34 | sussudio | goes looking for the weird pillar |
| 14:11:44 | strayer | do so...hehe |
| 14:11:58 | doug_school | lol |
| 14:12:03 | captain_proton | celebrates USPlus |
| 14:12:22 | sussudio | ah 0,5 |
| 14:12:23 | strayer | USPlus? |
| 14:12:25 | sussudio | yeah that would be weird |
| 14:12:45 | captain_proton | sometimes we own the zeros. sometimes, we own the ones. |
| 14:12:56 | captain_proton | sometimes we own your shoes, and sometimes we own your souls. |
| 14:13:02 | captain_proton | sometimes we own your minds, but we're always in your thoughts |
| 14:13:12 | captain_proton | we're USPlus. we own the idea, of the idea, of america |
| 14:13:52 | captain_proton | off to class |
| 14:14:29 | strayer | captain_proton: oha...sounds like an underground organisation ;) |
| 14:33:29 | doug_school | heya |
| 14:34:03 | patlabor221 | nnnnnnnnnnnn,,,, |
| 14:34:18 | doug_school | ? |
| 14:35:31 | Cell_prog_insect | shit i havent looked into any monitor for two weeks, and now my eyes are that sensitive, i see how the screen is refreshed by windows |
| 14:35:47 | strayer | hehe |
| 14:35:51 | strayer | holiday? |
| 14:35:55 | Cell_prog_insect | yep |
| 14:36:03 | strayer | where? |
| 14:36:09 | Cell_prog_insect | two weeks in ittaly camping |
| 14:36:22 | strayer | cool.... |
| 14:36:23 | doug_school | wow |
| 14:36:29 | doug_school | how did you servive? |
| 14:36:51 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, but it gets little bit boring with time |
| 14:36:52 | doug_school | lol |
| 14:37:10 | | bzeditw32 is probably http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit |
| 14:37:10 | doug_school | ibot bzeditw32 |
| 14:37:11 | Cell_prog_insect | al u do is eat eat, sun sun |
| 14:37:12 | strayer | where were U....only on the beach..or also in the cities? |
| 14:37:29 | doug_school | lol |
| 14:37:43 | Cell_prog_insect | i was on the beach mostly and in supermarket |
| 14:37:51 | doug_school | haha |
| 14:37:53 | strayer | hehe |
| 14:38:45 | strayer | Cell_prog_insect: italy has beautiful cities.... |
| 14:38:50 | Cell_prog_insect | just have to fetch some more things from the car, i arrived 10 min ago |
| 14:39:01 | doug_school | lol |
| 14:39:06 | doug_school | and on the comp... |
| 14:39:07 | doug_school | :) |
| 14:39:08 | strayer | oh...and now online?...respekt |
| 14:40:07 | doug_school | hoho, I would do the same... |
| 14:40:15 | doug_school | read 2 weeks of slashdot headlines... |
| 14:40:21 | doug_school | 200+ emails.... |
| 14:40:27 | doug_school | hehe |
| 14:40:33 | strayer | only 200? |
| 14:40:34 | doug_school | 2 weeks of comics to go through |
| 14:40:40 | doug_school | yea |
| 14:40:44 | strayer | :) |
| 14:40:45 | doug_school | need to add some more... |
| 14:40:51 | doug_school | :) |
| 14:47:07 | strayer | bye... |
| 14:47:21 | Cell_prog_insect | i 2501 realeased? |
| 14:47:32 | Cell_prog_insect | is it released? |
| 14:50:27 | doug_school | not yet |
| 14:50:35 | doug_school | a few more weeks |
| 14:50:36 | doug_school | maybe |
| 14:50:36 | doug_school | maybe not... |
| 14:50:37 | doug_school | :Z |
| 14:54:55 | doug_school | hmm |
| 15:06:42 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:06:42 | jpablo | ibot: ducati? |
| 15:06:43 | bzbot | Uilos (R): -2 (8-10). Izto (R): -2 (23-25). legion (penguins) (R): -14 (16-30). Yeti (G): 2 (11-9). Frenchie (G): -1 (7-8). monti (G): 0 (0-0). River Rat (R): -10 (10-20). MIRELLA (G): 16 (26-10). |
| 15:10:48 | gonkulator{work} | is away: I'm busy |
| 15:20:43 | gonkulator{work} | is away: I'm busy |
| 15:20:48 | gonkulator{work} | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 15:34:26 | yoyox | ;=] |
| 15:37:14 | Cell_prog_insect | directx9.0? |
| 15:37:59 | doug_school | ? |
| 15:38:06 | doug_school | its out? |
| 15:38:46 | Cell_prog_insect | thats what i need to know? |
| 15:39:16 | doug_school | hmm |
| 15:39:17 | doug_school | lol |
| 15:40:44 | doug_school | I never heard a thing about DX 9 |
| 15:41:54 | Cell_prog_insect | u didnt? |
| 15:42:09 | Cell_prog_insect | it should have .net support |
| 15:43:16 | doug_school | hmm |
| 15:44:27 | patlabor221 | I don't think it's out yet |
| 15:45:33 | patlabor221 | butI can check |
| 15:45:44 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, hi, but it should come out soon i think |
| 15:46:18 | patlabor221 | latest I show on MSDN subscriber network is 8.1 |
| 15:47:49 | Cell_prog_insect | yes, i have 8.1,but i have to write Paul Nette a letter now asking him if he tells me how to draw only the visible polygons inside the view frustum |
| 15:53:59 | patlabor221 | just send him an e-mail |
| 15:54:17 | doug_school | cell... new bzedit... has mouse input..,. :) |
| 15:54:26 | | bzeditw32 is http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit |
| 15:54:26 | doug_school | ibot bzeditw32 |
| 15:54:39 | patlabor221 | or he should also be ont the openGL game mailing list |
| 15:55:48 | Cell_prog_insect | doug_school: cool |
| 15:56:14 | scanline | is back (gone 08:00:39) |
| 15:57:17 | captain_proton | lazy-ass mouse input |
| 15:57:28 | scanline | DirectX??? |
| 15:57:29 | scanline | bah |
| 15:57:35 | scanline | OpenGL forever! |
| 15:57:45 | scanline | DirectX API is a pain in the arse |
| 15:57:50 | patlabor221 | that it is |
| 15:58:05 | patlabor221 | but it does seem to evolve faster then GL |
| 15:58:28 | scanline | Yeah.. MS does have an advantage in that respect, since DX isn't even a standard |
| 15:58:31 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 15:58:34 | doug_school | captain_proton: pffff, you are just jealose |
| 15:58:47 | patlabor221 | I am happy to see that the ARB is moving a lot faster these days |
| 15:58:56 | captain_proton | wtf does jealose mean? ;) |
| 15:59:08 | doug_school | erk |
| 15:59:11 | patlabor221 | like celulose but with jelly. |
| 15:59:17 | doug_school | its not spelling class... |
| 15:59:22 | scanline | I always thought it was a disease... |
| 15:59:28 | doug_school | pfff jealous |
| 15:59:34 | doug_school | whatever |
| 15:59:39 | scanline | as in "My foot has been jealose all week, but I got some medicine for it" |
| 15:59:47 | patlabor221 | so has pfff replaced your tsk as the thing you say for today? |
| 15:59:51 | doug_school | hehe |
| 15:59:56 | doug_school | tsk, nope |
| 15:59:58 | captain_proton | snickers at scanline |
| 16:00:08 | doug_school | just added it to my vocabluary |
| 16:00:50 | patlabor221 | yay only 95 more commands to document |
| 16:01:10 | doug_school | for what? |
| 16:01:24 | scanline | munches on a Vanilla Coke (the Morning Coke (tm)) to achieve the power level necessary to do homework |
| 16:01:42 | captain_proton | i liked the sign at farrand yesterday |
| 16:01:52 | captain_proton | Free 20oz coke (with purchase of a coke) |
| 16:01:54 | patlabor221 | for our internal language thing at work |
| 16:01:56 | scanline | hehe |
| 16:01:59 | doug_school | haha |
| 16:02:18 | doug_school | pat: oh |
| 16:03:02 | patlabor221 | actualy this is only the doc set for the ones that changed recenly, then I get to doc the other 2500 comamnds |
| 16:03:35 | doug_school | woah |
| 16:04:12 | patlabor221 | well that's what you have to do when you maintain your own language and compiler |
| 16:04:24 | scanline | what sort of language is it? |
| 16:04:30 | doug_school | hmm, why do they do that? |
| 16:04:34 | patlabor221 | our software runs CNC machines |
| 16:04:36 | scanline | is the odd masochistic type to find compiler writing really fun |
| 16:04:39 | doug_school | ahh |
| 16:04:51 | patlabor221 | but each CNC machine needs it's own format for it's inout |
| 16:04:54 | patlabor221 | input |
| 16:05:02 | doug_school | hmm |
| 16:05:03 | doug_school | ok |
| 16:05:31 | patlabor221 | so we made a language to write modules that tell our software how to output the text for a specific machine |
| 16:05:41 | patlabor221 | and it needs to do all sorts of logic |
| 16:05:42 | doug_school | hmm |
| 16:05:46 | patlabor221 | so we made a language |
| 16:05:51 | scanline | seems like a generic scripting language would have been fine for that though |
| 16:06:09 | patlabor221 | yes well this was made 12 years ago when there werent generic scripting lanuguages |
| 16:06:13 | scanline | ahh |
| 16:06:17 | patlabor221 | and it gets worse |
| 16:06:22 | scanline | and it's still not documented? :) |
| 16:06:29 | patlabor221 | it all originated on the mac in pascall |
| 16:06:38 | patlabor221 | then was auto converted to c |
| 16:06:40 | doug_school | lol |
| 16:06:41 | scanline | hehe |
| 16:06:42 | scanline | eww |
| 16:06:47 | patlabor221 | and it's compiled into mac resources |
| 16:06:48 | captain_proton | consult your doctor if you're over 80, pregnant, and operating heavy machinery |
| 16:07:03 | doug_school | hehe |
| 16:07:10 | scanline | well, all mac programs get compiled into resources... |
| 16:07:14 | patlabor221 | so when we made the windows version, we ported the mac resource manager |
| 16:07:22 | scanline | just like all (recent) linux programs get compiled into ELF sections :P |
| 16:07:25 | patlabor221 | this is our own type of byte code |
| 16:07:32 | patlabor221 | not machine code |
| 16:07:34 | doug_school | crazy |
| 16:07:36 | captain_proton | licks .AppleDouble |
| 16:07:46 | patlabor221 | we process the commands our sef |
| 16:07:47 | scanline | captain_proton: you fool! They haven't made that lickable yet! |
| 16:07:54 | patlabor221 | one BIG ASS case statemnt |
| 16:08:11 | captain_proton | my system is more lickable than OSX :) |
| 16:08:11 | scanline | captain_proton: feel free to lick the buttons and the menubars though |
| 16:08:16 | scanline | hehe |
| 16:08:38 | patlabor221 | we will proalby go to a standard lang soon, but we have over 5000 legacy "posts" to support. |
| 16:09:04 | scanline | so start using a scripting language, then write (in that scripting language) an interpreter for your custom language :) |
| 16:09:53 | patlabor221 | we have thought about that |
| 16:09:59 | patlabor221 | but there are training issues |
| 16:10:03 | scanline | ah |
| 16:10:07 | patlabor221 | the people that make these things arnt developers |
| 16:10:13 | patlabor221 | they don't "prgoram" |
| 16:10:22 | patlabor221 | and there is a time/cost issue |
| 16:10:46 | patlabor221 | right now it works rather well |
| 16:10:59 | patlabor221 | I've redone the compiler and it's usefull |
| 16:11:02 | patlabor221 | made a debuger |
| 16:11:09 | patlabor221 | and cleaned up the language |
| 16:11:26 | captain_proton | converts TellyVision to gnome |
| 16:11:46 | scanline | captain_proton: looks like I'm going to need to write a 1394 driver for v4l2 |
| 16:11:52 | captain_proton | heh |
| 16:11:52 | doug_school | :( |
| 16:12:05 | patlabor221 | I am trying to make the code that processes the language into a nice API that I can expose to another lang. |
| 16:12:23 | scanline | captain_proton: there isn't one already, and I can only find one program that can read from my camera with the 1394 interface |
| 16:12:47 | captain_proton | you should write a userland program that just imitates v4l2 :) |
| 16:12:54 | scanline | hehe |
| 16:13:01 | captain_proton | make linux as microkernelish as possible <grin> |
| 16:13:24 | scanline | that HURDs :P |
| 16:13:37 | captain_proton | haha |
| 16:18:40 | captain_proton | victims of incense... |
| 16:20:05 | patlabor221 | sends in the Ninja anit-bodies against his cold. |
| 16:20:53 | doug_school | tough |
| 16:21:29 | captain_proton | sends in even-more-powerful super-ninja antibodies against whatever it is he's contracted |
| 16:21:55 | captain_proton | now, you've got ten seconds to identify what you've got, and beeeeeeeeeeat the reaper! |
| 16:22:03 | captain_proton | queues the music |
| 16:22:07 | doug_school | haha |
| 16:22:20 | scanline | sends ninga antibodies at captain_proton's Tom Lehrer obsession |
| 16:22:31 | captain_proton | thats not from tom lehrer |
| 16:22:34 | captain_proton | thats from firesign :) |
| 16:22:39 | scanline | oh yes.. |
| 16:22:44 | scanline | I got them confused |
| 16:22:52 | scanline | firesign addictions are perfectly fine of course :P |
| 16:23:01 | scanline | flings ninjas at captain_proton |
| 16:23:09 | captain_proton | what about the goon show? |
| 16:23:12 | captain_proton | or stan freberg? |
| 16:23:16 | scanline | hides |
| 16:23:28 | | 6 |
| 16:23:28 | doug_school | ibot (8 * 9) / 12 |
| 16:23:33 | doug_school | k |
| 16:23:36 | captain_proton | bwahahahaha |
| 16:23:38 | | scanline: i'm not following you... |
| 16:23:38 | scanline | ibot: 1<<15 |
| 16:23:40 | captain_proton | fj33r the radio comedy |
| 16:23:57 | | scanline: sorry... |
| 16:23:57 | scanline | ibot: it's 32768 you dolt |
| 16:24:08 | doug_school | heheh |
| 16:24:23 | scanline | hits ibot with a powers-of-two-cluestick |
| 16:24:33 | doug_school | lol |
| 16:24:39 | | doug_school: what? |
| 16:24:39 | doug_school | ibot hex2hex 23 |
| 16:26:10 | captain_proton | ooh, a powers-of-two-cluestick |
| 16:27:49 | | doug_school: what? |
| 16:27:49 | doug_school | ibot [ 35 / (24 - 17 )] + 12 |
| 16:27:51 | patlabor221 | now sends in the Cyborg Ninja aniti-bodies against his cold. |
| 16:28:01 | doug_school | tsk |
| 16:30:31 | | 624 |
| 16:30:31 | doug_school | ibot (20+(4*7)) * 13 |
| 16:33:11 | patlabor221 | why don'y you have ibot help you with your math homework in a private message to him. |
| 16:33:52 | doug_school | :P |
| 16:33:52 | | scanline: excuse me? |
| 16:33:52 | scanline | ibot: solve dx=e^x |
| 16:35:01 | captain_proton | patlabor221: because for some reason doug_school has no social conscience |
| 16:35:01 | patlabor221 | most interseting... there is a GL wraper for DirectX |
| 16:35:10 | patlabor221 | now if only there was one that went the other way |
| 16:35:30 | doug_school | lol |
| 16:35:30 | scanline | doug_school: there are plenty of other channels ibot is in too :) |
| 16:35:37 | doug_school | #zaurus... |
| 16:35:40 | doug_school | ;) |
| 16:35:48 | captain_proton | there is for dx 8.0 |
| 16:35:48 | scanline | go ahead, I'm not in #zaurus right now :) |
| 16:35:54 | doug_school | ah |
| 16:36:10 | patlabor221 | I'm guessing he does NOT play well with others. |
| 16:36:13 | scanline | I haven't been in #zaurus much lately... too many rabid C++ and Qt zealots |
| 16:36:31 | scanline | I'm in #openzaurus instead |
| 16:36:32 | patlabor221 | or jsut MSG ibot, works the same |
| 16:36:40 | scanline | patlabor221: but that's the easy solution! |
| 16:37:21 | captain_proton | slaps scanline with a std::vector<std::pair<std::string, std::map<std::string, std::deque<std::string> > > > |
| 16:37:34 | patlabor221 | well that's a way to make a render farm |
| 16:37:35 | patlabor221 | http://gollum.flipcode.com/cgi-bin/gimage.cgi?ShowImage=http://gollum.flipcode.com/shots/farm12.jpg |
| 16:37:43 | scanline | feels a sting as each template impacts his skin |
| 16:38:19 | scanline | slaps captain_proton with a void ****** |
| 16:38:45 | captain_proton | lrwxrwxrwx 1 jupiter jupiter 9 Jan 12 2002 void * -> /dev/null |
| 16:39:15 | captain_proton | gots ta go |
| 16:39:25 | scanline | struct foo (*void (*bar)(int x))(int y); |
| 16:39:28 | scanline | :P |
| 16:39:47 | scanline | oops |
| 16:39:48 | scanline | s/void// |
| 16:43:22 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:43:22 | CLQ | ibot: ducati |
| 16:43:23 | bzbot | t_w_n_n (R): 12 (38-26). Obiwankenobi (R): -6 (37-43). Uilos (R): -11 (8-19). mr. brown (G): 30 (96-66). anaconda (G): 21 (73-52). Zoyo (G): -25 (31-56). 1of3 (G): -9 (14-23). @@ (P): 0 (0-0). |
| 17:04:55 | | 3 |
| 17:04:55 | doug_school | ibot 1 + 1 |
| 17:05:03 | doug_school | *snort* |
| 17:05:06 | scanline | doug_school: :P |
| 17:06:23 | doug_school | hehe |
| 17:34:39 | | 3 |
| 17:34:39 | CLQ | ibot 1+2 |
| 17:34:47 | CLQ | yay |
| 17:35:20 | | 1387 |
| 17:35:20 | CLQ | ibot 400+987 |
| 17:35:33 | CLQ | wow |
| 17:35:55 | | 4984 |
| 17:35:55 | CLQ | ibot 56*89 |
| 17:36:14 | CLQ | WOW |
| 17:38:43 | | -2 |
| 17:38:43 | CLQ | ibot 8-10 |
| 17:42:28 | Cell_prog_insect | i think that super mario and the legend of zelda are the greatest games that have been creted until today |
| 17:48:18 | | 577.333333333333 |
| 17:48:18 | CLQ | ibot 8+9*65-8*84/9+5+6*9 |
| 17:48:25 | CLQ | wow |
| 17:48:47 | | 38 |
| 17:48:47 | sussudio | ibot 5*8-9+5/89*0+7 |
| 17:48:51 | sussudio | HA |
| 17:48:56 | sussudio | wrong |
| 17:48:59 | sussudio | the answer is 7 |
| 17:49:04 | | 1e+91 |
| 17:49:04 | CLQ | ibot 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999*99999999999999999999999999999999999999999 |
| 17:49:34 | CLQ | 1+1 |
| 17:49:39 | | rumour has it 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 17:49:39 | CLQ | ibot 1+1 |
| 17:51:40 | | 6 |
| 17:51:40 | doug_school | ibot three times two |
| 17:52:08 | | rumour has it 0.8 is dated November 8, 2000 |
| 17:52:08 | Cell_prog_insect | ibot 0.8 |
| 17:52:48 | patlabor221 | is awway: lucnh |
| 17:57:35 | Cell_prog_insect | whats the html tg for embedding sound on ur html page |
| 17:57:37 | Cell_prog_insect | ? |
| 17:57:51 | Cell_prog_insect | tag for sound |
| 17:57:53 | jzaun | <body sound="*.wav"> |
| 17:58:03 | Cell_prog_insect | k, thanks |
| 17:58:11 | jzaun | btu don't do it |
| 17:58:16 | jzaun | its anoying as all |
| 17:58:40 | sussudio | <blink> |
| 17:59:03 | jzaun | heh, Thats the most anoying tag on earth |
| 17:59:15 | Cell_prog_insect | i dont do it, ijust search for the source url of the sound @ http://www.legendofzelda.com/home.php in the html source |
| 17:59:59 | | sucky sucky is FIVE DOLLAH SOLDIER BOY!!!!!!!! |
| 17:59:59 | sussudio | ibot sucky sucky |
| 18:00:52 | sussudio | </blink> |
| 18:01:28 | jzaun | Anyone know how to generate a 100pxX100px HUD like graphic from a .bzw file? |
| 18:01:28 | jzaun | preferibally done in php |
| 18:01:50 | jzaun | <blink>Special Message</blink> |
| 18:02:12 | Cell_prog_insect | can some one tell me the url of the intro sound @ http://www.legendofzelda.com/home.php |
| 18:02:15 | Cell_prog_insect | plz? |
| 18:02:20 | sussudio | printscreen? |
| 18:02:43 | Cell_prog_insect | cant find it in the body tag |
| 18:03:44 | sussudio | its in the swf, dude. |
| 18:03:52 | jzaun | sry guy, its part of the shockwave intro |
| 18:03:53 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, k |
| 18:04:50 | jzaun | sussudio: printscrn works great if you want to load bzflag up, I want to make a HUD like graphic from a world file without the need for bzflag |
| 18:05:18 | sussudio | k. |
| 18:09:47 | m0nkey_b0y | hi |
| 18:10:00 | jzaun | hi |
| 19:01:38 | patlabor221 | cel you just want the zelfa music? |
| 19:02:48 | Cell_prog_insect | yes |
| 19:03:04 | patlabor221 | I have a bunch of them at home |
| 19:03:25 | Cell_prog_insect | really, great |
| 19:03:45 | patlabor221 | I'll post them up for you when I get home |
| 19:04:21 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, thank u |
| 19:04:49 | patlabor221 | jzuan you could use the editor and replace the texture files |
| 19:04:52 | patlabor221 | then make a shot from that |
| 19:05:45 | Cell_prog_insect | it looks as if they decided to make a cartoon style rendering for the game cube zelda |
| 19:05:59 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:06:04 | patlabor221 | looks stupid and silly |
| 19:06:25 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, i love it |
| 19:06:31 | patlabor221 | I don't |
| 19:06:35 | patlabor221 | looks like a bad cartoon |
| 19:06:44 | patlabor221 | link was allways suposed to be "THE MAN" |
| 19:06:53 | patlabor221 | not some football headed child |
| 19:07:02 | Cell_prog_insect | sure, but we have to see it in motion |
| 19:07:07 | patlabor221 | I have |
| 19:07:14 | patlabor221 | looks very childish |
| 19:07:37 | Cell_prog_insect | oh, nentendo seems to target the under 16 market |
| 19:07:41 | patlabor221 | ues |
| 19:07:42 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:07:55 | patlabor221 | I do hear that metroid is suposed to be nice |
| 19:08:22 | Cell_prog_insect | oh cool, it was one of the best games on snes |
| 19:09:51 | Cell_prog_insect | i have never discovered a game that has better game play as super mario 64, i mean a 3d game, its awsome |
| 19:10:16 | patlabor221 | halo |
| 19:14:13 | patlabor221 | and metal gear solid, that was a most excelnt game |
| 19:14:15 | patlabor221 | made you tink |
| 19:14:17 | patlabor221 | think |
| 19:18:50 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 19:19:36 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 19:19:43 | jzaun | hi |
| 20:00:01 | sussudio | still doesnt get teleporter links |
| 20:01:07 | patlabor221 | tis bizare |
| 20:01:17 | BZFrank | hi |
| 20:01:26 | captain_proton | side 0 is the first side of the first teleporter, side 1 is the second side of the first |
| 20:01:27 | sussudio | say i have 1 teleporter. is one side numbered 0 and the other 1? |
| 20:01:29 | Nicole | hilo |
| 20:01:31 | captain_proton | 2 & 3 are the second teleporter |
| 20:01:36 | captain_proton | 4 & 5 are the third |
| 20:01:36 | captain_proton | etc etc |
| 20:01:36 | sussudio | ... |
| 20:01:49 | patlabor221 | go on susudio |
| 20:01:59 | sussudio | retries |
| 20:02:11 | patlabor221 | just remember that they are all sequencal |
| 20:02:22 | patlabor221 | and the editor will show you where they go to and from |
| 20:02:29 | patlabor221 | hey frank |
| 20:02:36 | BZFrank | hey pat |
| 20:02:53 | sussudio | it will? |
| 20:03:04 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:03:07 | patlabor221 | if you select them |
| 20:03:09 | patlabor221 | in the list |
| 20:03:22 | m0nkey_b0y | hi frank! |
| 20:03:25 | patlabor221 | it will draw it |
| 20:04:24 | BZFrank | hi monkey, how is life in Albu? :) |
| 20:04:47 | m0nkey_b0y | very well thanks. how are you doing? |
| 20:07:26 | BZFrank | fine a bit tired but things look goodand beer is plenty ;) |
| 20:07:43 | m0nkey_b0y | oh i hear you |
| 20:07:58 | m0nkey_b0y | i try to get home to beer soon enough |
| 20:08:15 | m0nkey_b0y | you still coming out here? |
| 20:08:34 | BZFrank | hehe, actually I can current at a big mug of black tee, that is more food for hackers |
| 20:08:50 | BZFrank | not this year, maybe in spring |
| 20:09:17 | m0nkey_b0y | ah |
| 20:09:33 | BZFrank | my father is still in hospital and I don'T want to leave him or my mother, so I'll wait |
| 20:09:33 | m0nkey_b0y | balck tea with chai...or just tea? |
| 20:09:46 | m0nkey_b0y | understands |
| 20:09:55 | m0nkey_b0y | he doing better? |
| 20:10:03 | BZFrank | just tea, 4 spoons per put, China oolong |
| 20:10:50 | BZFrank | yes, this weekend he managed to walk 10 meters with out help or his wheelchair, we were all very pround and happy :) |
| 20:11:04 | m0nkey_b0y | very good news indeed |
| 20:11:30 | BZFrank | but until he is away I need to run the house and stuff, in addition to my usual work |
| 20:12:10 | m0nkey_b0y | yardwork for frank :) |
| 20:12:10 | BZFrank | so no holidays for me this year, only a few days off in the alps maybe |
| 20:12:44 | BZFrank | lawnmowing ;) |
| 20:13:06 | m0nkey_b0y | well alps sound pretty fun. |
| 20:13:46 | BZFrank | I have a business partner in lucerne, switzerland, and the mountains are pretty close there |
| 20:14:10 | m0nkey_b0y | nice. i lived near lake como for awhile |
| 20:14:28 | BZFrank | then you know... |
| 20:14:35 | m0nkey_b0y | i had a good time there yes |
| 20:15:15 | BZFrank | gives me also a lot of chances to buy chocolade and cheese *eg* |
| 20:15:18 | m0nkey_b0y | well i am off.. i have a meeting :( |
| 20:15:20 | m0nkey_b0y | hsssss |
| 20:15:28 | BZFrank | cu monkey! |
| 20:15:33 | m0nkey_b0y | chocolate there was the best! |
| 20:15:36 | m0nkey_b0y | ncu frank |
| 20:15:38 | m0nkey_b0y | take care |
| 20:15:41 | m0nkey_b0y | bye all |
| 20:15:43 | BZFrank | say that loud man! |
| 20:16:27 | BZFrank | hi tim |
| 20:16:38 | patlabor221 | does not want to hook up the multiple slection mechanism that will be reqired for true group support in BZEdit. |
| 20:17:24 | captain_proton | puts on his asbestos underwear |
| 20:18:45 | patlabor221 | dude arn't those ichhy |
| 20:19:14 | patlabor221 | or are you just heading out to the forums? |
| 20:20:09 | captain_proton | you seem to be attempting to light a fire under me |
| 20:20:13 | captain_proton | so i take precautions |
| 20:20:15 | captain_proton | *shrug* |
| 20:20:27 | patlabor221 | ohh no I am just complaining |
| 20:20:33 | scanline | puts some napalm on the stove, set to simmer |
| 20:20:34 | patlabor221 | as I am wont to do |
| 20:20:46 | captain_proton | but...suddenly you're on top of bzedit again? =} |
| 20:20:58 | patlabor221 | ohh don't worry |
| 20:21:09 | patlabor221 | I think that I've goetn it all out my system |
| 20:21:16 | captain_proton | heh |
| 20:21:19 | patlabor221 | dimatap will do that you know. |
| 20:26:00 | captain_proton | haha at deinterlacing that erases the character |
| 20:26:20 | captain_proton | when a game flickers the character once a frame sometimes you see them normal and sometimes you don't see anything :) |
| 20:39:08 | patlabor221 | still playing with the emus? |
| 20:39:57 | captain_proton | emus? |
| 20:41:13 | sussudio | ostriches? |
| 20:41:14 | patlabor221 | emlators |
| 20:41:31 | captain_proton | not emu |
| 20:41:39 | captain_proton | i've got mah genesis hooked up to the box |
| 20:41:42 | patlabor221 | vid capture? |
| 20:41:47 | captain_proton | yaya |
| 20:41:47 | sussudio | or the canadian version.. mu, eh? |
| 20:42:45 | captain_proton | admires www.bzflag.org |
| 20:42:58 | captain_proton | hum |
| 20:43:45 | captain_proton | oh, not mah fault |
| 20:44:17 | captain_proton | trots off to class |
| 20:47:53 | BZFrank | grrrr |
| 20:48:08 | BZFrank | this lag on digitaleclipse is unbearable |
| 20:54:40 | Chestal | had a nice 1 hot game earlier this evening |
| 20:54:46 | Chestal | 1 shot, even |
| 20:54:51 | Chestal | like in my odl ays :-) |
| 20:57:12 | BZFrank | well, these 'spray' servers with high lag gives me the willies these days |
| 20:57:32 | doug_school | bzfrank! |
| 20:57:39 | doug_school | lol |
| 20:57:50 | doug_school | you should see my 100 shot server! |
| 20:57:52 | doug_school | ;) |
| 20:57:53 | BZFrank | there is no finesse here, only plain brute force and lag luck |
| 20:58:07 | doug_school | haha |
| 20:58:17 | BZFrank | doug: tried it, but too much lag for me poor european ;) |
| 20:58:28 | doug_school | hehe |
| 20:58:43 | Chestal | 2 weeks ago I had the most fun on a 1 shot jumping server with my steamroller |
| 20:58:48 | patlabor221 | can you even get 100 shots into the world at at time from one tank |
| 20:58:49 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 20:58:52 | doug_school | hmm, school is over... |
| 20:59:01 | doug_school | patlabor yea |
| 20:59:06 | doug_school | with a hacked client too |
| 20:59:11 | patlabor221 | what is the minum fire time? |
| 20:59:17 | patlabor221 | and the life of a shot? |
| 20:59:25 | doug_school | the clients shots expire after 9999 units |
| 20:59:28 | doug_school | :) |
| 20:59:29 | Chestal | fire time is probably frame rate related |
| 20:59:42 | patlabor221 | figures |
| 20:59:44 | doug_school | but it takes 99 sec to reload |
| 20:59:48 | doug_school | :) |
| 21:00:38 | doug_school | bzfrank: are you gonna release a updated version soon? |
| 21:01:10 | doug_school | or are you gonna wait until you finish it all? |
| 21:01:16 | BZFrank | this week hopefully |
| 21:01:23 | doug_school | ok |
| 21:01:24 | doug_school | :) |
| 21:01:35 | BZFrank | to test the client/server fixes |
| 21:01:39 | doug_school | ah |
| 21:01:42 | doug_school | :) |
| 21:01:48 | doug_school | whats new about it? |
| 21:02:03 | doug_school | 400% increase in performance? |
| 21:02:06 | doug_school | :P |
| 21:02:10 | patlabor221 | does it have cyborg ninjas? |
| 21:03:01 | BZFrank | no, the performances fixes also affects the server, it should run more stable |
| 21:03:13 | doug_school | cool |
| 21:03:14 | BZFrank | previously the server did loose state over time |
| 21:03:18 | doug_school | yes |
| 21:03:24 | doug_school | we saw that... |
| 21:03:24 | BZFrank | and this should fix it |
| 21:03:25 | doug_school | :) |
| 21:03:31 | doug_school | nice :) |
| 21:03:55 | doug_school | tsk |
| 21:04:03 | doug_school | wonders out to the office |
| 21:04:12 | patlabor221 | bah, no ninjas |
| 21:04:24 | BZFrank | mhmm, muntant ninja tanks? |
| 21:04:31 | patlabor221 | no not mutant |
| 21:04:35 | doug_no_school | is away: office, schools done, over, vamoose. |
| 21:04:36 | patlabor221 | just regujar |
| 21:04:44 | BZFrank | regular ninja tanks? :) |
| 21:04:49 | doug_no_school | microbots? |
| 21:05:00 | doug_no_school | or just cyborg? |
| 21:05:26 | BZFrank | no, cyborgs sucks, organic ninja tanks with fur rulz |
| 21:05:40 | doug_no_school | woot |
| 21:05:54 | BZFrank | they also purr if you are nice to them ;) |
| 21:05:57 | doug_no_school | if you can make that.... it would be put up on apples web site |
| 21:05:59 | doug_no_school | ;) |
| 21:06:04 | sussudio | honda civic tanks |
| 21:06:07 | doug_no_school | the, OS X, version... |
| 21:06:18 | doug_no_school | sussudio: those golf carts? |
| 21:06:27 | patlabor221 | I didn't say tanks |
| 21:06:31 | BZFrank | yeah, currently fighting OSX 10.2... |
| 21:06:32 | sussudio | doug_no_school: souped up ofcourse |
| 21:06:36 | patlabor221 | just regjuar cyborg ninjas |
| 21:06:37 | doug_no_school | ah |
| 21:06:44 | doug_no_school | bzfrank: oh? |
| 21:06:52 | BZFrank | the compiler in OSX 10.2 plainly SUCKS |
| 21:06:52 | doug_no_school | bzfrank: why? |
| 21:06:57 | doug_no_school | oh |
| 21:07:05 | doug_no_school | its GCC 3 aint it? |
| 21:07:20 | BZFrank | yeah but some special mutant ninja apple version |
| 21:07:26 | doug_no_school | hahqa |
| 21:07:40 | patlabor221 | bet it's not a ninja, that's why it sucks |
| 21:07:45 | doug_no_school | hmm, so it wont comple? |
| 21:07:53 | BZFrank | e.g. #pragma implementation and others causes it to give compiling errors! |
| 21:08:03 | doug_no_school | hmm |
| 21:08:05 | patlabor221 | proalby some freaked out hippie verson. |
| 21:08:12 | doug_no_school | brb |
| 21:08:22 | BZFrank | gcc 3.1 on linux - no problem, gcc 3.1mosx broken |
| 21:08:36 | BZFrank | pat: yeah, a flower power release |
| 21:09:09 | BZFrank | we already reported to apple but no immediate fix yet |
| 21:11:05 | patlabor221 | well lets take a look at P2501 |
| 21:11:09 | patlabor221 | 's map format |
| 21:11:34 | doug_no_school | hmm |
| 21:11:46 | doug_no_school | yea |
| 21:11:51 | doug_no_school | pllleeeasse? |
| 21:11:55 | doug_no_school | ;) |
| 21:12:08 | BZFrank | pat: just a script |
| 21:12:16 | patlabor221 | looks like I"ll have to get some milkshape readers |
| 21:12:35 | doug_no_school | bzfrank: does that mean I could add buildings and stuff in the client? |
| 21:12:43 | doug_no_school | with the console? |
| 21:12:46 | BZFrank | yes |
| 21:12:49 | doug_no_school | wow |
| 21:12:53 | doug_no_school | CHEATING! |
| 21:13:00 | BZFrank | edit the world file and issue a 'loadworld yourworld.wrld' |
| 21:13:06 | doug_no_school | hmm |
| 21:13:09 | BZFrank | no cheating, the server always override |
| 21:13:15 | doug_no_school | ah |
| 21:13:16 | doug_no_school | nice |
| 21:13:17 | doug_no_school | :P |
| 21:13:29 | BZFrank | world loading in the client is just to test your own world without servers |
| 21:13:35 | doug_no_school | so you cant say make a flag here, and it will? |
| 21:13:38 | doug_no_school | ok |
| 21:13:41 | doug_no_school | good |
| 21:13:41 | doug_no_school | :) |
| 21:13:52 | BZFrank | it will, but as soon as you join a game all flags are gone ;) |
| 21:13:59 | doug_no_school | lol |
| 21:14:02 | doug_no_school | cool |
| 21:14:07 | BZFrank | likewise loadworld during an online session is not possible |
| 21:14:09 | patlabor221 | frank your worlds are allways square? |
| 21:14:17 | BZFrank | pat: for now yes |
| 21:14:23 | patlabor221 | ok |
| 21:14:39 | doug_no_school | hm |
| 21:14:49 | BZFrank | setWorldSize(1000); gives the measure |
| 21:14:53 | doug_no_school | it would be cool to have a soccer field shaped world |
| 21:14:59 | doug_no_school | eh? |
| 21:15:10 | BZFrank | sure, the engine can handle this but I was lazy for 1.0 ;) |
| 21:15:16 | doug_no_school | haha |
| 21:15:20 | doug_no_school | oh goody... |
| 21:15:21 | patlabor221 | is there a list all the things that have a "createXXXXXXXX" func? |
| 21:15:25 | doug_no_school | comp is back up |
| 21:16:45 | patlabor221 | I am not seeing anything like an entity list in the data file. |
| 21:17:57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 21:18:27 | BZFrank | pat: to create something just define attributes, then the createXXXX call creates it and resets the attributes |
| 21:18:44 | BZFrank | see PROJECT.DEFS for a list of elements |
| 21:19:49 | patlabor221 | how does it associate a model to an ID? |
| 21:20:08 | BZFrank | pat: by name, see data.zip |
| 21:20:33 | doughecka | #$%#$%# |
| 21:20:42 | doughecka | my win 2000 comp bit the dust |
| 21:20:51 | doughecka | gives a pretty blue creen |
| 21:20:53 | patlabor221 | the name as in "GSUB_BUILDING9" = "default_building9.ms3d" ? |
| 21:20:55 | BZFrank | there is a key/value association list but for now it is not changeable by the script |
| 21:21:01 | BZFrank | exact |
| 21:21:14 | doughecka | pff |
| 21:21:22 | doughecka | win98.. |
| 21:21:24 | patlabor221 | then P2501 is not ready for a map editor |
| 21:21:26 | BZFrank | the list is currently hardcoded in worldfx.cxx |
| 21:21:27 | patlabor221 | I shall wait |
| 21:21:41 | doughecka | patlabor221: hmmm |
| 21:21:54 | patlabor221 | too much is hardcoded |
| 21:22:01 | doughecka | k |
| 21:22:06 | BZFrank | pat: without loading the models a map editor would not work anyway |
| 21:22:15 | patlabor221 | well I can load the models |
| 21:22:21 | patlabor221 | that's not the hard part |
| 21:22:43 | BZFrank | so what is the problem? |
| 21:23:07 | patlabor221 | can't add models without modifying the defs file |
| 21:23:15 | BZFrank | edit the data.zip |
| 21:23:23 | patlabor221 | per map, that is silly |
| 21:23:31 | doughecka | pfff |
| 21:23:33 | BZFrank | no, actually not |
| 21:23:38 | doughecka | and my win98 is dead |
| 21:23:40 | patlabor221 | map should pull from a shared resource pool |
| 21:23:45 | doughecka | oh well |
| 21:23:47 | BZFrank | just use some default models for the maps |
| 21:24:15 | doughecka | is away: firing bill gates |
| 21:24:25 | BZFrank | the data.zips MD5 hash is used by the server to check if each client as the needed world models, if not the client can load them from some place |
| 21:24:29 | doughecka | is away: also fixing my computers |
| 21:24:33 | BZFrank | cu doug |
| 21:24:39 | doughecka | :( |
| 21:24:41 | doughecka | cya |
| 21:25:27 | jzaun | anyone good designing the look/theme of a webpage? |
| 21:26:38 | BZFrank | not particular ;) |
| 21:28:42 | patlabor221 | depnds.. are there ninjas involved? |
| 21:29:02 | sussudio | ninjas with depends? |
| 21:29:10 | jzaun | heh |
| 21:29:15 | patlabor221 | old ninjas |
| 21:29:27 | BZFrank | is doing the xp sp1 update dance |
| 21:29:40 | patlabor221 | isn't that thing still beta? |
| 21:29:44 | jzaun | BZFrank: Good luck |
| 21:30:04 | BZFrank | no there is an official web page now |
| 21:30:17 | BZFrank | only MS does not annouce it until monday ;) |
| 21:31:22 | BZFrank | http://download.microsoft.com/download/whistler/SP/SP1/WXP/en-us/xpsp1_en_x86.exe (<- US version) |
| 21:32:18 | BZFrank | and here is some nice info how to create an XP installtion cd that already installes SP1: http://www.winpage.info/pages/WinXP/sp1.php4 |
| 21:32:23 | Widget | Until Monday? Why? |
| 21:32:48 | patlabor221 | proalby last min testing |
| 21:32:56 | patlabor221 | make sure that the sites can handle the load. |
| 21:32:58 | BZFrank | don'T know, it is public knowledge however, any newsservice brought the story and the links were published |
| 21:33:08 | patlabor221 | and that the intsaller works |
| 21:33:15 | Widget | Some nice info.... in German. |
| 21:33:33 | BZFrank | use the fish ;) |
| 21:34:58 | Widget | In the German version of Windows XP, I suppose everything is in German.... but what about third-party programs? |
| 21:35:08 | Widget | Is there a way, if they have German language support... |
| 21:35:18 | Widget | That they can check the Windows language and change their own automatically? |
| 21:35:25 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:35:37 | patlabor221 | an app can define multipe version of it's resources |
| 21:35:42 | patlabor221 | one per lang |
| 21:35:54 | Widget | And check for the default Windows language? |
| 21:36:26 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:36:29 | Widget | But I suppose most don't have German translations. |
| 21:36:38 | patlabor221 | depnds on the app |
| 21:36:43 | patlabor221 | we have a german version |
| 21:36:47 | patlabor221 | of our app |
| 21:37:12 | captain_proton | what fish? |
| 21:37:29 | Widget | Of Babel. |
| 21:37:30 | patlabor221 | but we don't use the windows method, we do our own resource management. |
| 21:37:44 | Widget | I would like to see the Hebrew or Arabic versions. |
| 21:37:53 | Widget | Do they have support for writing from right to left? |
| 21:37:54 | patlabor221 | of windows? |
| 21:38:00 | Widget | Or, for that matter, the Chinese version. |
| 21:38:00 | patlabor221 | I think so |
| 21:38:02 | Widget | Yes, of Windows. |
| 21:38:11 | patlabor221 | we have a chinese version of our app |
| 21:38:37 | patlabor221 | and yes you can define a dialog to be right to left |
| 21:38:54 | patlabor221 | all standard text edits support that |
| 21:38:56 | Widget | Is word right to left as well? |
| 21:39:00 | Widget | Oh. |
| 21:39:05 | patlabor221 | it should be |
| 21:39:22 | patlabor221 | we didn't install word on the forgen test sytems |
| 21:39:36 | patlabor221 | just excell |
| 21:40:13 | jpablo | anybody know a photo where linus and rms are togeder ? |
| 21:41:31 | Widget | jpablo: What devious purposes are you going to use such a photo for? |
| 21:42:17 | sussudio | my map is giving me vertigo |
| 21:43:01 | Widget | Wow.... Apple's NZ webpage is the only one that looks different. |
| 21:43:14 | jpablo | Widget: to put in a review about a linux history talk ... |
| 21:43:17 | patlabor221 | hmm frank: where did you get the format info for binar Milkshape files? all I see is info for the text version. |
| 21:43:54 | Widget | Hm... Google image search turns up nothing. |
| 21:44:39 | jpablo | yeah. |
| 21:49:46 | BZFrank | there is a milkshape loader, wait I look for it |
| 21:50:40 | Widget | But there is a scary picture of RMS. |
| 21:51:40 | BZFrank | http://nehe.gamedev.net/tutorials/lesson.asp?l=31 |
| 21:52:23 | patlabor221 | thanks |
| 21:56:01 | jpablo | Widget: there aren't non-scary pictures of rms. |
| 21:56:17 | sussudio | hm 209 elements |
| 21:56:29 | sussudio | think that's too much for a map? |
| 21:56:55 | scanline | is away: pseudofood-substances of DOOM |
| 21:57:26 | patlabor221 | for what target system? |
| 21:57:32 | patlabor221 | and don't count the links |
| 21:57:45 | sussudio | err |
| 21:58:06 | sussudio | 145 boxes |
| 21:58:33 | patlabor221 | so there is 1160 tris |
| 21:58:41 | sussudio | if you say so |
| 21:58:49 | patlabor221 | each box has 8 |
| 21:59:01 | patlabor221 | no more |
| 21:59:07 | patlabor221 | 12 |
| 21:59:19 | patlabor221 | 1740 tris |
| 21:59:37 | patlabor221 | pyramids have 10 |
| 21:59:47 | sussudio | can you make circles |
| 21:59:54 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 21:59:59 | sussudio | :-P |
| 22:00:02 | patlabor221 | just those 5 ent types |
| 22:00:10 | sussudio | 5 ent? |
| 22:00:16 | patlabor221 | box, pyr, base, port, link |
| 22:00:31 | patlabor221 | entity |
| 22:00:36 | sussudio | one of apathy's maps has half circles |
| 22:00:50 | patlabor221 | there are actualy 7 types, but you only get to edit 5 of them |
| 22:01:04 | patlabor221 | ground and walls are allways there |
| 22:01:48 | patlabor221 | I should remove the word element too, as I have taken the entire element class out. |
| 22:01:58 | patlabor221 | it's all "objects" now |
| 22:05:07 | sussudio | yawns |
| 22:18:31 | patlabor221 | bwahahahahah XP themed BZEdit :) |
| 22:22:58 | patlabor221 | Hey widget, want a mac BZ edit :) |
| 22:22:59 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit/macbzedit.jpg |
| 22:23:38 | jzaun | crontab question , what the * * * * * settings for every bottom of the hour? |
| 22:24:06 | jzaun | 30 * * * *? |
| 22:25:08 | captain_proton | patlabor221: ahhhhhhhhhhh |
| 22:25:41 | captain_proton | is afraid |
| 22:26:58 | patlabor221 | looks like it dosn't it? |
| 22:29:49 | patlabor221 | how bout this one? http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit/bzeditxbox.jpg |
| 22:34:10 | patlabor221 | or one editor to rule them all |
| 22:34:17 | patlabor221 | how bout this one? http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit/LOTE.jpg |
| 22:34:25 | captain_proton | oof |
| 22:34:29 | captain_proton | gimme that last url again |
| 22:34:42 | patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/code/bz/edit/LOTE.jpg |
| 22:35:05 | captain_proton | haha |
| 22:35:13 | captain_proton | your ground is fugly |
| 22:35:22 | patlabor221 | that it is |
| 22:35:38 | patlabor221 | I need to change the texture scale to make it all blurry and shit like real BZ |
| 22:36:09 | scanline | is back (gone 00:39:13) |
| 22:36:12 | captain_proton | what are the new toolbar icons? (going from ?+ to the end) |
| 22:36:26 | scanline | that screenshot yearns for antialiasing like none other! |
| 22:36:28 | patlabor221 | I don't remember what ?+ was |
| 22:36:58 | patlabor221 | but then there is Center On Target |
| 22:37:07 | scanline | ugly windows XP style... |
| 22:37:22 | patlabor221 | Show/Alpha out non selected stuff |
| 22:37:27 | patlabor221 | Selet mode |
| 22:37:31 | patlabor221 | Move XY mode |
| 22:37:37 | patlabor221 | Move XZ mode |
| 22:37:41 | patlabor221 | Rotate Mode |
| 22:37:44 | patlabor221 | and Scale Mode |
| 22:37:50 | captain_proton | select mode? |
| 22:38:04 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/dormitorium-ss.png <-- beautiful antialiasing :) |
| 22:38:10 | patlabor221 | yeah so a left clock does a pick |
| 22:38:44 | patlabor221 | left click does a pick sorry |
| 22:39:08 | captain_proton | crummy interface :P |
| 22:39:24 | captain_proton | x:0 y:0 replaced the target? |
| 22:39:25 | patlabor221 | like I said I was lazy |
| 22:40:18 | patlabor221 | I got complaints that noone understood what it did, so I changed it |
| 22:40:36 | captain_proton | makes sense |
| 22:40:55 | captain_proton | is pondering interface elements for the super-whoopey bzedit to come :P |
| 22:41:14 | patlabor221 | for the modes I couldn't think of anything better in the 1.35 min I spent thinking about it. |
| 22:41:15 | Widget | á |
| 22:41:18 | Widget | Ooh. |
| 22:41:19 | captain_proton | the asbestos underwear failed |
| 22:41:49 | patlabor221 | god I hate that grid I have |
| 22:42:00 | captain_proton | i don't have a grid at all |
| 22:42:09 | captain_proton | but i was considering adding one |
| 22:42:12 | patlabor221 | better then an ungly grid |
| 22:42:13 | captain_proton | with a snap-to-grid mode |
| 22:42:24 | Widget | Uh oh.... |
| 22:42:44 | Widget | Hm. |
| 22:42:47 | patlabor221 | uhh oh? |
| 22:42:55 | Widget | X-Chat is behaving strangely. |
| 22:43:05 | Widget | But at least now it does áccènts. |
| 22:43:29 | patlabor221 | cap: it seems that the ?+ buton is labeled "Add custom" |
| 22:43:30 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 22:43:35 | captain_proton | ?? |
| 22:43:36 | patlabor221 | I hve no clue what I was thinking |
| 22:43:47 | patlabor221 | not hooked up to anything |
| 22:43:48 | captain_proton | heh |
| 22:43:48 | Widget | captain_proton: Are those sets of two posts supposed to be beds? |
| 22:44:04 | captain_proton | Widget: that ss was taken before the mattresses/etc were modeled+positioned |
| 22:44:12 | Widget | Ah. |
| 22:44:21 | Widget | Is the dormitorium ready? |
| 22:44:36 | scanline | captain_proton: fighting bzflag in aden? How will the tanks climb stairs? |
| 22:44:40 | captain_proton | not even close |
| 22:44:53 | captain_proton | scanline: just in my room ;) |
| 22:44:57 | scanline | :) |
| 22:45:12 | patlabor221 | widget did you see my mac version of the editor? |
| 22:45:16 | captain_proton | dennis will probably complain about the noise of the tanks |
| 22:45:25 | Widget | patlabor221: Ya. |
| 22:45:25 | scanline | hehehe |
| 22:45:40 | scanline | wants to fill dennis' room with packing peanuts |
| 22:45:43 | Widget | captain_proton: But you won't be able to get up onto those shelves/air vent things. |
| 22:45:57 | captain_proton | Widget: we're gonna have lots of strategically placed teleporters |
| 22:46:03 | Widget | Ah. |
| 22:47:59 | patlabor221 | cap: are you still using the same world/elelment/object/model classes as I am? |
| 22:52:13 | captain_proton | probably |
| 22:53:05 | patlabor221 | I should send you this new code then |
| 22:53:16 | patlabor221 | I took out the element class becasue it was basicly pointless |
| 22:53:21 | captain_proton | i was gonna make something new |
| 22:53:28 | patlabor221 | ohh ok |
| 22:53:33 | captain_proton | to do groups easier |
| 22:54:20 | patlabor221 | yeah I added group name and ID storage to the object class, but a regular vector just wasn't gonna cut it |
| 22:55:08 | captain_proton | i'm considering using a map |
| 22:55:28 | patlabor221 | map of vectors? |
| 22:55:33 | captain_proton | nope |
| 22:55:33 | patlabor221 | group as the key? |
| 22:55:38 | patlabor221 | what is the key? |
| 22:55:40 | patlabor221 | name? |
| 22:55:42 | captain_proton | map<string, object> |
| 22:55:48 | captain_proton | path |
| 22:55:51 | patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 22:56:02 | captain_proton | within the tree |
| 22:56:33 | patlabor221 | gonna be able to store that in the world file? |
| 22:57:40 | patlabor221 | lubs his fully scaleale/transperant winmap :) |
| 22:57:55 | captain_proton | absolutely |
| 22:58:07 | captain_proton | the beauty of it is that the name -implies- the group |
| 22:58:09 | captain_proton | err |
| 22:58:16 | captain_proton | implies the tree |
| 22:58:24 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:59:05 | captain_proton | although there's one bit of trickiness |
| 22:59:10 | captain_proton | since groups have their own transforms and such |
| 22:59:14 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:59:20 | patlabor221 | that was my issue |
| 22:59:24 | patlabor221 | rotations |
| 22:59:26 | captain_proton | i was thinking of even maybe (sadly) introducing a new file format |
| 22:59:33 | patlabor221 | around the groups COM |
| 23:00:00 | captain_proton | then you export to bzworld |
| 23:00:14 | patlabor221 | something that would store the heirarchy would be nice |
| 23:00:39 | patlabor221 | make culling faster too |
| 23:01:50 | patlabor221 | wonders where his asembly format stuff is |
| 23:04:53 | patlabor221 | well time to go home |
| 23:04:56 | patlabor221 | see ya |
| 23:10:16 | doughecka | tsk |
| 23:10:26 | doughecka | reinstalls windows pro |
| 23:10:34 | doughecka | (again) |
| 23:10:41 | doughecka | tsk tsk |
| 23:10:45 | doughecka | maybe not... |
| 23:10:59 | doughecka | captain_proton: you have your new map up? |
| 23:12:10 | doughecka | guess not |
| 23:13:47 | BZFrank | this parhelia 512 is giving me troubles |
| 23:13:58 | doughecka | eh? |
| 23:14:02 | doughecka | your still here? |
| 23:14:08 | doughecka | wonderbar |
| 23:14:09 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:14:27 | doughecka | (lame attempt at german) |
| 23:17:33 | doughecka | 320 gig drives now?? |
| 23:17:36 | doughecka | sheesh |
| 23:17:57 | doughecka | is away: ordering a new motherboard |
| 23:19:26 | BZFrank | me is also gone, need some sleep |
| 23:20:39 | bzdoug_ | k |
| 23:21:23 | | bzfrank was last seen on #bzflag 1 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: me is also gone, need some sleep [Wed Sep 11 00:19:26 2002] |
| 23:21:23 | bzdoug_ | ibot seen bzfrank |
| 23:21:31 | bzdoug_ | tsk |
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| 23:22:58 | bzdoug_ | ibot slashdot |
| 23:24:37 | | Widget: what? |
| 23:24:37 | Widget | ibot: dashslot |
| 23:24:44 | | Widget: excuse me? |
| 23:24:44 | Widget | ibot: kuro5hin |
| 23:25:02 | bzdoug_ | hehe |
| 23:25:10 | bzdoug_ | dashslot? |
| 23:26:15 | Widget | No K5!? |
| 23:26:23 | jzaun | bzdoug_: whats the callsign you use? |
| 23:26:26 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 23:26:36 | bzdoug_ | jzaun, currently bzdoug |
| 23:26:54 | bzdoug_ | I have not used breadhat lately |
| 23:27:05 | jzaun | have you played today? |
| 23:27:25 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 23:27:28 | bzdoug_ | not really |
| 23:27:35 | jzaun | dolt... |
| 23:27:42 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 23:27:45 | bzdoug_ | not today |
| 23:27:55 | bzdoug_ | I joined my test server, but thats it |
| 23:28:00 | bzdoug_ | I think |
| 23:28:09 | bzdoug_ | heya bzflag! |
| 23:28:10 | jzaun | BZFlag: Hello |
| 23:28:33 | BZFlag | is glad that bzdoug_ thinks. |
| 23:28:35 | BZFlag | grins |
| 23:28:36 | bzdoug_ | jzaun:why? |
| 23:28:37 | BZFlag | hey all. |
| 23:28:43 | bzdoug_ | hmm? |
| 23:28:48 | jzaun | bzdoug_: Whated to test something |
| 23:28:49 | bzdoug_ | how did you do that? |
| 23:28:55 | bzdoug_ | jzaun: oh? |
| 23:28:59 | jzaun | BZFlag: I got the database working |
| 23:29:05 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 23:29:22 | jzaun | BZFlag: any player accounts working... still have to make it look nicer though |
| 23:29:23 | BZFlag | jzaun: cool! |
| 23:29:31 | captain_proton | BZFlag: suppose you could go through the FlagList again? my roommate wants VegasMode approved ;) |
| 23:29:41 | bzdoug_ | jzaun: ? |
| 23:29:46 | jzaun | BZFlag: you play at all today? |
| 23:29:46 | bzdoug_ | I could test it |
| 23:29:58 | bzdoug_ | heya apathy |
| 23:30:03 | MrApathyCream | heya |
| 23:30:18 | BZFlag | jzaun: nope. still workin' |
| 23:30:32 | BZFlag | VegasMode? sheesh. ;-) |
| 23:31:42 | captain_proton | <-- big fan of VegasMode |
| 23:33:05 | captain_proton | Grappling Beam could be fun too |
| 23:33:40 | captain_proton | hmm, damn |
| 23:33:49 | MrApathyCream | heheh |
| 23:33:57 | captain_proton | the only tabbed application i use that doesn't support alt-# shortcuts is mozilla |
| 23:34:07 | captain_proton | :P |
| 23:34:37 | jzaun | MrApathyCream: Last seen on Sep 11 2002 01:42AM (GMT) at turkey.moongroup.com:7500. |
| 23:35:11 | MrApathyCream | kicked(lag) |
| 23:35:18 | jzaun | MrApathyCream: yah.. me too |
| 23:35:25 | MrApathyCream | jzaun: picture sent: no update :(( |
| 23:35:32 | captain_proton | snickers |
| 23:35:36 | jzaun | reworking website |
| 23:35:49 | jzaun | should have it up in a day or two |
| 23:37:08 | MrApathyCream | thumbs up/down on sf awaiting patches? |
| 23:37:15 | MrApathyCream | (1.8) |
| 23:37:28 | captain_proton | which were? |
| 23:37:32 | captain_proton | D SD and LZ? |
| 23:37:34 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, i forget |
| 23:37:41 | MrApathyCream | no, the new ones |
| 23:37:49 | captain_proton | hum?? |
| 23:38:02 | captain_proton | goes to look at the patches |
| 23:38:07 | MrApathyCream | BO and RV and WG |
| 23:38:13 | captain_proton | ah |
| 23:38:45 | captain_proton | BO and RV work well |
| 23:38:57 | MrApathyCream | WG not, you think? |
| 23:39:21 | bzdoug_ | jzaun: what does it do? |
| 23:39:27 | bzdoug_ | good... |
| 23:39:31 | captain_proton | the one time i tried it i didn't like it too much |
| 23:39:33 | captain_proton | but thats just me |
| 23:39:45 | captain_proton | could be interesting on the decks |
| 23:39:52 | bzdoug_ | woo |
| 23:40:35 | MrApathyCream | bzdoug_: BO is bounce (bad) can't stop bouncing |
| 23:40:45 | captain_proton | BO is so much fun :) |
| 23:40:53 | MrApathyCream | RV: is reverse controls (bad) mouse goes opposite direction |
| 23:41:06 | MrApathyCream | WG: Wings can steer and accelerate in air |
| 23:41:20 | captain_proton | can accelerate too? |
| 23:41:25 | captain_proton | i thought just steer(?) |
| 23:41:30 | MrApathyCream | well forward/back |
| 23:41:51 | MrApathyCream | tank handles as if on ground (although you fall as normal) |
| 23:41:59 | captain_proton | ahh nifty |
| 23:42:18 | MrApathyCream | i like it actually |
| 23:42:39 | captain_proton | BZFlag: plz accept BO and RV :) |
| 23:42:40 | captain_proton | and VM!! |
| 23:44:05 | BZFlag | updates the flag list. |
| 23:44:10 | MrApathyCream | VM? |
| 23:44:20 | doughecka | virual memory |
| 23:44:34 | BZFlag | VegasMode. sure. ;-) |
| 23:44:53 | BZFlag | need a new flag type "goofy" I think. |
| 23:45:11 | MrApathyCream | woowooo antagonize!!!!!!! |
| 23:45:21 | MrApathyCream | we should combine antagonize and vegas |
| 23:45:34 | BZFlag | or perhaps goofy is a flag attribute, as there could be good and bad goofy flags. |
| 23:46:39 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:48:49 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:48:54 | doughecka | lurgyman eh? |
| 23:49:23 | lurgyman | yup |
| 23:49:37 | lurgyman | lurgyman=llama man |
| 23:49:54 | MrApathyCream | noof to you |
| 23:50:02 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:50:08 | doughecka | scan[ibook]: hehe |
| 23:50:10 | doughecka | backup |
| 23:50:52 | lurgyman | indeed |
| 23:52:25 | lurgyman | so now all that remains is to figure out exactly what will happen in vegas mode and implement it |
| 23:52:31 | lurgyman | ?? |
| 23:53:56 | captain_proton | NOOF! |
| 23:54:13 | lurgyman | flobbidob blib blob bleeb |
| 23:55:31 | scan[ibook] | doughecka: upgrading my motherboard and CPU |
| 23:55:40 | scan[ibook] | dual athlon XP 2000 |
| 23:55:49 | doughecka | woo |
| 23:55:51 | captain_proton | ooh the mobo came? |
| 23:55:55 | doughecka | nice |
| 23:55:59 | doughecka | how much? |
| 23:56:00 | scan[ibook] | captain_proton: yup! |
| 23:56:11 | scan[ibook] | $200 for the motherboard, $80 for anotheksr CPU, like $40 for the heat sin |
| 23:56:15 | scan[ibook] | err... |
| 23:56:21 | scan[ibook] | another CPU |
| 23:56:25 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:56:28 | scan[ibook] | s/sin/sinks/ |
| 23:56:36 | scan[ibook] | I kinda clicked while typing :) |
| 23:56:39 | captain_proton | i wanta a heat sin |
| 23:56:49 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:56:55 | captain_proton | it sounds....fun |
| 23:57:20 | scan[ibook] | pulls his GF3 out of closet |
| 23:57:26 | doughecka | oooh |
| 23:58:00 | doughecka | hes got toys, but I dont... |
| 23:58:03 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:58:11 | scan[ibook] | heh.. I also got less money now |
| 23:58:14 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:58:22 | doughecka | alot less I imagine.. |
| 23:58:40 | doughecka | my comp died today |
| 23:58:41 | scan[ibook] | damn this case is top-heavy... |
| 23:58:46 | scan[ibook] | doughecka: ooh, that sucks |
| 23:58:48 | jzaun | MirekCz -- 108 Number one player so far across all the public bzflag serers :-) |
| 23:58:50 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:58:57 | doughecka | windows 2000 barfed on me |
| 23:59:08 | doughecka | so I gotta reinstall :( |
| 23:59:15 | doughecka | jzaun: lol |
| 23:59:34 | scan[ibook] | oh.. software died, not something serious :P |
| 23:59:43 | doughecka | scan[ibook]: yea |
