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21:56.38BZFlagibot yow
22:09.58MrApathyCreami take it BZ would stynk over two way satellite?
22:24.27MrApathyCreamsheesh, you on a date or something?
22:24.55captain_protonat home (read: parents house) because my grandparents were visiting
22:25.06MrApathyCreamfun fun
22:25.32MrApathyCreamhow goes alist extraction? get my diffs?
22:25.48captain_protongot your diffs
22:26.01captain_protonlooks like the only ALists left are in the mac platform stuff
22:26.03captain_protoni think
22:26.09MrApathyCreamnifty
22:26.22captain_protonbut i'm getting a segfault on server join
22:26.25captain_protoncare to take a look?
22:26.30MrApathyCreamsend me a diff
22:26.36MrApathyCream<full>
22:26.46captain_protonk
22:26.57captain_protoni've been working on setting up a subversion server so we can do private branches
22:27.05MrApathyCreamkul
22:27.08MrApathyCreamthat would be nice
22:27.46MrApathyCreammight be touchy with licensing tho, dunno
22:29.21captain_protonsubversion? how?
22:29.53MrApathyCreami suppose if anyone can have at it, it's ok... dunno, BZFlag usually has problems with this kind of thing
22:30.44MrApathyCreamis patlabor a mac guy, i forget... could check the AList extract on Mac
22:30.54captain_protonwell the thing is that we'll only use it for temporary hacking
22:30.57BZFlagif the source is publically available for all releases, you can do whatever you like.
22:31.09captain_protonthen we'll commit to the real cvs once it works
22:31.17captain_protoninstead of dccing diffs around
22:31.39MrApathyCreamdon't like dccing diffs?
22:31.44captain_protonanyone who wants to help with whatever the branch is for will get access to the svn server
22:31.48captain_protonnot really
22:31.59BZFlagI only have issue with binaries that are released without source.
22:32.36MrApathyCreamk,
22:32.38MrApathyCreamgood
22:32.50MrApathyCreamWould be good not to fudge up the main cvs
22:34.21BZFlaghow to folks feel about bitkeeper?
22:34.38MrApathyCreamibot, bitkeeper?
22:34.38rumour has it, bitkeeper is at http://www.bitkeeper.com/ or at http://www.bitmover.com/ or hosted trees at http://www.bkbits.net/ or like cvs and subversion, but its non-opensource.. but its really good, even linus uses it to develop the kernel!
22:34.39captain_protoni'd rather use subversion
22:34.43BZFlagI'm normally anti, and I might be in this case too. have to think about it.
22:34.51captain_protonbecause of bitkeeper's licensing
22:35.02BZFlagibot subversion
22:35.02BZFlag: no idea
22:35.09BZFlagibot info subversion
22:35.15captain_protonBZFlag: subversion.tigris.org
22:35.30captain_protonright now it appears to have basically the same feature set as cvs
22:35.32BZFlagGPLed or what?
22:35.38captain_protonyep, GPL
22:36.02MrApathyCreamwindows support?
22:36.05captain_protonMrApathyCream: indeed
22:36.11captain_protoni'm not sure there's mac os9 support
22:36.28MrApathyCreamibot, insult os9
22:36.28BZFlagso what's the advantage over cvs?
22:37.11captain_protonBZFlag: versioning of renames/deletes, uses webdav as its protocol so you get basic repository navigation for free
22:37.36BZFlagahh. I'd like to mess around with webdav.
22:38.00captain_protonit looks pretty interesting
22:38.06captain_protonbut the ietf metting of the WG was boring :)
22:41.00captain_protonMrApathyCream: remind me, i can convert them in the same cmd line as the diff
22:41.31MrApathyCreamit's no biggy, i just have to 'member
22:41.53MrApathyCreamget cryptic error message otherwise
22:43.05MrApathyCreamcool, i get problem too
22:44.40captain_protonBZFlag: well, MrApathyCream will smoketest out subversion hacking at stuff - if it works well, we might consider converting
22:45.14MrApathyCreamLocalPlayer ctor, me thinks, checking
22:46.20captain_protoni tracked the segging down to one of the teleporter iters in World...
22:46.28captain_protoncould be a different error
22:46.53MrApathyCreamWorld::getProximity
22:47.42captain_protonyeah
22:48.25MrApathyCreamhmmm iterator is munged
22:48.34MrApathyCreamor perhaps nothing is in the teleporter vector
22:49.10MrApathyCreamthe entries in the vector are garbage
22:49.17MrApathyCreamMust be the world builder
22:51.07captain_protonTimRiker: why does ibot keep setting +l?
22:51.28TimRikerit's a form of channel prtection. annoying?
22:51.55captain_protonseems like it shouldn't be setting it all the time
22:52.22captain_protonand overall a little frivolous, never had a floodbot attack
22:54.02MrApathyCreamnasty, this patches that one..but why
22:54.04MrApathyCreamfloatWorld::getProximity(const float* p, float r) const
22:54.04MrApathyCream{
22:54.04MrApathyCream  // get maximum over all teleporters
22:54.04MrApathyCream  float bestProximity = 0.0;
22:54.04MrApathyCream  if (teleporters.size() > 0) {
22:54.06MrApathyCreamstd::vector<Teleporter>::iterator teleporterScan = static_cast<std::vector<Teleporter> >(teleporters).begin();
22:54.08MrApathyCreamwhile (teleporterScan != teleporters.end()) {
22:54.10MrApathyCreamconst float proximity = teleporterScan->getProximity(p, r);
22:54.12MrApathyCreamif (proximity > bestProximity) bestProximity = proximity;
22:54.14MrApathyCreamteleporterScan++;
22:54.16MrApathyCream}
22:54.18MrApathyCream  }
22:54.20MrApathyCream  return bestProximity;
22:54.22MrApathyCream}
22:54.24MrApathyCreamnote: if test
22:55.43captain_protonhmm
22:59.27MrApathyCreamhmm wonder if its a const iterator vs iterator
22:59.35MrApathyCreamcould they possibly be two differnt pointers?
22:59.43MrApathyCreamerg
23:00.38captain_protonwe're not using const_iterator at all, are we?
23:00.48MrApathyCreamteleporters.end()
23:00.49MrApathyCreamis const
23:01.14MrApathyCreamteleporterScan is not const
23:01.30captain_protonshouldn't matter, i've always used .end() elsewhere
23:01.47MrApathyCreamyeah, no difference
23:04.24MrApathyCreamnasty
23:08.16captain_protonMrApathyCream: btw, patlabor is a windows kiddie
23:08.21MrApathyCreamok
23:08.28captain_protononly mac bzflagger i know of is eddienull
23:08.37MrApathyCreamem
23:08.40captain_protonthough one of scanline's buddies has an osx laptop, perhaps he's willing
23:08.44MrApathyCreamand widget :)
23:08.57captain_protonheh, widget doesn't know enough to code for bz
23:08.57MrApathyCreambut he doesn' tbuild
23:09.26MrApathyCreambut he DOES get 2fps
23:09.48captain_protonshe*
23:09.51MrApathyCreamoh
23:09.58captain_proton(i was surprised too)
23:11.35scanlinecaptain_proton: since gonkulator found those 2.5" drives, I might have enough room that I'd waste some on OSX on my laptop soon
23:16.01MrApathyCreamwow, a new vector is temporarily being constructed on that line
23:16.28MrApathyCreamthis works
23:16.29MrApathyCreamfloatWorld::getProximity(const float* p, float r)
23:16.29MrApathyCream{
23:16.29MrApathyCream  // get maximum over all teleporters
23:16.29MrApathyCream  float bestProximity = 0.0;
23:16.29MrApathyCream  std::vector<Teleporter>::iterator teleporterScan = teleporters.begin();
23:16.31MrApathyCream  while (teleporterScan != teleporters.end()) {
23:16.33MrApathyCreamconst float proximity = teleporterScan->getProximity(p, r);
23:16.35MrApathyCreamif (proximity > bestProximity) bestProximity = proximity;
23:16.37MrApathyCreamteleporterScan++;
23:16.39MrApathyCream  }
23:16.41MrApathyCream  return bestProximity;
23:16.43MrApathyCream}
23:16.45MrApathyCreamremoval of const
23:16.57MrApathyCreamthe 'correct' solution is to figure out how to define the iterator as const
23:17.11MrApathyCreamyou'd think that would be easy
23:17.13MrApathyCreamarg
23:17.32captain_protonwell creating a const iterator is easy enough
23:17.50MrApathyCreamyeah, we tried that 'member?
23:18.06captain_protonbut defining a 'const iterator' isn't :P
23:18.23captain_protonconst_iterator is an iterator of const elements
23:18.42MrApathyCreamduh
23:18.43MrApathyCream  std::vector<Teleporter>::const_iterator teleporterScan = teleporters.begin();
23:18.46MrApathyCreamworks
23:18.48captain_protonscanline: if you wanna update the mac platform stuff for us as we mess with stuff...
23:18.55captain_protonMrApathyCream: it does? wonderful
23:19.06MrApathyCreamwe need to go back and fix all that crap we added
23:19.14MrApathyCreamluckily we can look for static_cast
23:20.05scanlinecaptain_proton: possibly. I'd like to get into some OS X development/porting after I get that hard disk
23:20.11captain_protonshould only have that crap in World
23:20.18MrApathyCreamcheckin
23:21.32captain_protonscanline: think gonkey would be willing to do tests for us until then?
23:21.52scanlinecaptain_proton: probably
23:22.03scanlinecaptain_proton: if you see laodamas on #picogui, he runs OS X as his primary OS
23:22.04[STC]creeperzIt would of been easier to quikchat.com lol
23:22.07[STC]creeperzoopz
23:23.11MrApathyCreamit woiks
23:23.24captain_protonMrApathyCream: great, care to diff me a World.cxx?
23:23.31MrApathyCreamin process
23:23.48[STC]creeperzwhat do you think it means?
23:23.52[STC]creeperzlol
23:24.05captain_proton[STC]creeperz: ?
23:24.14[STC]creeperzhey
23:24.24[STC]creeperzNice decks map by the way
23:24.50[STC]creeperzOh, BTW, when I first started BZFLAG, I went to your server first
23:25.23captain_protonMrApathyCream: works here too
23:25.25MrApathyCreamcaptain_proton: did you recode the swap, or just use std::sort
23:25.38[STC]creeperzwow, busy in here
23:25.46MrApathyCreamcaptain_proton: cool
23:25.51captain_protonwhenever there was a swap i used a 3-line temporary variable swap
23:25.55MrApathyCreamk
23:26.06MrApathyCreamprolly safest
23:26.12captain_protonfor now anyway
23:26.18MrApathyCreamyup
23:26.21captain_protonyeah, safe too
23:26.25MrApathyCreamok, commit to subversion
23:26.27MrApathyCream;)
23:26.28captain_protonin terms of stl implementations
23:26.30captain_protonheh
23:26.43captain_protonhopefully (crosses fingers) svn will work this time
23:27.48captain_protonyaay
23:27.49MrApathyCreamthey eat their own dog food!
23:27.50MrApathyCreamSubversion is now self-hosting -- to obtain a working copy, you must use Subversion itself, not CVS.
23:27.51captain_protonit runs
23:27.57captain_protonnow i get to set up the server
23:29.25MrApathyCreamsvn use the same patch file format?
23:31.15MrApathyCream--see xtreme p's "shouldertoshoulder buddies" concept isn't that bad, eh?
23:34.22WidgetWhat is this!?
23:34.29WidgetThere's a map called "WidgetWorld"?
23:34.46captain_protonMrApathyCream: it should, the diff format is pretty standard
23:44.31captain_protoncheckout works here, i gotta get apache running on a different port to avoid the firewall though
23:45.03MrApathyCreamBZFlag: when's the switcheroo?
23:45.54captain_protonMrApathyCream: svn co http://bzflag.net:3000/svn/bzflag bzflag
23:46.05MrApathyCreamk
23:46.08MrApathyCream41%
23:46.11MrApathyCream;(
23:46.38MrApathyCream*sigh*
23:49.48MrApathyCreamRCAM!!! I need a better connection!!
23:49.58MrApathyCreamibot, seen RCAM?
23:49.58i haven't seen 'rcam', MrApathyCream
23:53.07MrApathyCream80%
23:54.26captain_protonsvn deletes and commits appear to work just find
23:54.27captain_protonfine*
23:54.46MrApathyCreamkul
23:55.49captain_protonBZFlag: btw, the README still says e4
23:55.49MrApathyCreamplaying.cxx 69:154  crufty?
23:56.22captain_proton69:154??
23:56.33MrApathyCreamlines 69-154
23:56.59captain_protonyeah, but i'm not too willing to deal with it right now
23:57.03MrApathyCreamheh
23:57.05MrApathyCreamweenie
23:57.24captain_protoni think the next target is 'boolean', 'True' & 'False'
23:57.28MrApathyCreamk
23:57.32captain_protonought to get the mac platform stuff working agian
23:58.13scanlinehehe
23:58.29captain_protonmmmMMMmmm bread
23:58.31captain_protonmy favorite
23:58.58captain_protonMrApathyCream: try making a change and committing, ought to ask you for a password (probably need to supply --username at some point)

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