irclog2html for #bzflag on 20021118

00:38.45captain_protonMrApathyCream: watching sg1 with scanline and lurgyman
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01:01.02MrApathyCreamhm, sgl, hmmm, mismcgyvler?
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01:56.21scanlineMr. Macgyver yay!
01:56.29scanlinehey cool, I have these tab thingies looking somewhat decent
01:56.33scanlinestill need some tweaking...
02:15.28sussudiooxygen is for losers!
02:16.34scanlineIf you outlaw oxygen, then only outlaws will have oxygen
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02:19.35bombermoin
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02:27.08captain_protonsussudio: who says i'm wearing pants?
02:27.15sussudiodoug
02:27.23captain_protonhow would he know?
02:27.42sussudiodougcam #23
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03:42.05Pinguinhi bomberchen
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03:44.17Cellhi
03:45.08scanlinehi
03:46.18bomberhi Pinguin
03:53.20Pinguinhi bomber ... ich mache gerade eine THz-Korken ...
03:55.52bomberhi Pinguin...ich bereite mich gerade aufs praktikum
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08:14.49akira_ibot: bzflist
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08:56.24bzlynxanyone with experience with a radeon 7500 ?
08:56.47bzlynxor a better card in the same price region ?
08:56.48pauli remember talking to bzfrank and he said they were ok.
08:56.53bzlynxheh
08:57.02bzdoug_quack
08:57.38bzdoug_FreeBSD: Nothing runs like a daemon with a pitch fork.
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09:32.56captain_protonbzdoug_: do you actually know anything about freebsd or are you just saying that because you thought it sounded cool?
09:33.07bzdoug_both
09:33.51captain_protonwhen i say know about freebsd i mean have used it and understand why its different
09:34.26bzdoug_I tried freebsd on a centris 610
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09:34.51Cellhi capain
09:34.57Cellcaptain
09:34.59akira_hi cel
09:35.03Cellhi
09:35.17bzdoug_ITS Captain Proton!
09:35.21bzdoug_SALUTE!
09:35.45CellGUN SALUTE!
09:40.15Cellhow to get my ip address to windows clipboard the fastest way?
09:42.46akira_in linux?
09:43.01Cellis there a psoiibility to use regular expressions like with grep on win command prompt?
09:43.08Cellakira_^:no win
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09:44.09bomberibot ducati?
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09:44.10bzbotServer is empty
09:46.21Cellakira_: http://80.128.52.148\trisel2.jpg lol
09:46.36akira_ibot bzflist
09:47.07akira_wxwndows?
09:47.22Cellno win2k
09:47.32akira_not portable?
09:47.45Cellwhat u mean?
09:48.38akira_linux version?
09:49.17Cellno win 2000 version written in c#
09:49.20akira_ts
09:49.25akira_bad boy
09:49.32Celllol
09:49.57akira_:)
09:50.58Cellblue system rocks
09:53.47Cellmust go
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10:41.31bzdouggggbloody buggy thing
10:42.40PatLabor221?
10:42.52Dougheckayay, PatLabor221s here
10:42.58PatLabor221yay?
10:44.08PatLabor221havving issues?
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10:47.31Cellhowdy
10:47.49PatLabor221move to texas?
10:47.55Cellyep
10:48.08Cellcow boy now
10:48.19PatLabor221cowboy is 1 word
10:48.50Cellmost cow boys cant write
10:48.59Cellits not their job
10:49.01PatLabor221no, most of them can
10:49.10PatLabor221have you ever meet one?
10:49.13Cellno
10:49.22Cellsaw the naked cowboy in tv
10:49.35Cellas he was in jermany
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10:50.44Cellu know the crazy guy walking around in pants and playing guitar lol
10:51.08PatLabor221I see
10:51.19PatLabor221well that would be called a freak out here
10:52.14CellPatLabor221: http://80.128.52.148\trisel2.jpg lol
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10:52.56Terminatorhi all
10:53.03Terminatoribot ducati
10:53.03bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156
10:53.04bzbotbomber (G): -1 (8-9). puppamelo (R): -10 (13-23). root (R): 11 (32-21). severian (G): 4 (48-44). Lucidor (G): 3 (18-15).
10:53.09Terminator:-)
10:53.23PatLabor221you should smooth out those normals.
10:53.41Cellha?
10:53.57PatLabor221it's very faceted
10:54.17Cellyes i use tri normal for each tri vertex currently
10:54.47Cellbut thats cheap to change
10:57.01jzauneschew?
10:57.14Cellavoid
10:57.24jzaunthanks :-)
10:59.46Cellthis c# has automatic class serialization, i wonder how it will serialze class members of type '<vector>', lets try  
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11:03.30PatLabor221I htink the opreritve workd is "Ditch"
11:04.15captain_proton"ditch" is such an abrasive word
11:04.27PatLabor221well yes, but it's what you have done.
11:06.12captain_protonindeed
11:07.58Celli give my internal scene files the file postfix *.cel
11:08.09Cellcool
11:08.13Cellidea
11:08.18PatLabor221ohh you are just soo clever
11:08.27Celli know
11:09.14PatLabor221I mean how do you live with yourself, being that clever.
11:10.13Celloh, as long nobody realize my undisclaimable intelligence, im fine
11:10.46PatLabor221what happens if the do?
11:11.02PatLabor221do the men in white coats come to take you back to the "comfy room"?
11:11.28Cellthen i have to give the world the biggest: KAAAAAA ME HAAAA ME HAAAAAAAAAA and its over with the world, all dead me too
11:11.30captain_protonthe white men in nice coats...
11:12.04PatLabor221yeah I thihk they will need to bring the "happyjacket(TM)" too
11:13.51PatLabor221cell do you live in a basment?
11:14.50Terminatori live in a house
11:14.51Cellhow u know?
11:15.02Terminatorn/me is back
11:15.04PatLabor221just a guess
11:15.11Terminatoroops
11:15.16PatLabor221I am rather perceptive
11:15.43Terminatorpat where do u live apartment house or  basment
11:15.51PatLabor221aprtement
11:15.56Terminatork
11:15.57PatLabor221of my own
11:16.02Terminatork
11:16.17PatLabor221proalby move to a nicer condo next year.
11:16.19Terminatori guess no wife yet then
11:16.26Terminatorah ok
11:16.38Cellmy paents live in the ground floor, right above me, but i have a my own door to the outside
11:16.47Terminatork cool
11:16.54Terminatornhow old are you cell?
11:17.01PatLabor221parents basement
11:17.07Cellyep
11:17.09Cell25
11:17.12PatLabor221well no wife anymore
11:17.19PatLabor221not since 94
11:17.24Terminatorany kids?
11:17.29PatLabor221nope
11:17.35PatLabor221maried less then a year
11:17.43Terminatori guess pat is 30
11:17.48Terminatornor 36
11:17.50PatLabor221yup
11:17.53Terminatoror 26 i ment
11:17.55PatLabor22130 just this year
11:18.07Cello pretty young
11:18.09Terminatorwow what a lucky guess
11:18.16Terminator:-(
11:18.20Terminatori am very young
11:18.30Cellnumber
11:18.33Terminator12
11:18.35PatLabor221I was born the day the first sucsesfull video game was installed :)
11:18.40Terminatorlol
11:18.44Celloh god im talking to a kid
11:18.49Terminatoryup
11:18.59Cellgo away kid
11:19.02DougheckaCell: ...
11:19.02PatLabor221cell we talk to you.
11:19.16PatLabor221and he often sounds more mature then you.
11:19.28Cellu took grass?
11:19.29DougheckaCell: I am older than Terminator
11:19.38Terminatorcell bzflag is game and kids have every right to play games
11:19.44CellDoughecka: i know u are 15
11:19.46Cellthats k
11:19.49Dougheckau huh
11:19.49Cellbut 12
11:19.57PatLabor221it's just 3 years
11:20.00Doughecka~15-12
11:20.003
11:20.17Dougheckayay, segways are coming out in 2003
11:20.25Terminatorcell answer one question for me
11:20.28Cellk
11:20.32PatLabor221least terminator dosn't go off saying he's a character from a bad anime.
11:20.40Celllol
11:20.57Cellthat will come if he gets older
11:21.01Terminatoryou were hapily talking to me before you found out my age, you are being prejudice
11:21.01Celllol
11:21.06PatLabor221hopefully not.
11:21.21Dougheckasee PatLabor221 as an example of what happens
11:21.30PatLabor221I would hope that most of the youth of today has some taste.
11:21.33CellTerminator: i just mde jokes i dont care how old u are
11:21.36Dougheckaheh
11:21.41captain_protonPatLabor221: they don't, they don't
11:21.52PatLabor221ohh yeah that's right
11:21.53TerminatorCell: oops sorry i was taking you seriously
11:22.01Dougheckahmm, metropolis...
11:22.02Cellyes u are a kid, see
11:22.07Dougheckasounds like a boooring movie
11:22.20PatLabor221your only as young as you feel
11:22.36PatLabor221what metropolis doug? the old or the new?
11:22.52Dougheckaits a silent movie made in the 30s
11:22.55Terminatorthere is one thing i like that know one here would like i guess
11:22.56Dougheckaold
11:22.58PatLabor221yes that's the old then
11:23.04Terminatorbut i can talk to other ppl bout that
11:23.09PatLabor221they made an anime out of it :)
11:23.16Dougheckayea
11:23.18DougheckaI saw that
11:23.23PatLabor221what is that term?
11:23.24Dougheckathats booooring too
11:23.49Terminatorhrm has anyone here seen or sould i say going to see die another day?
11:24.01Dougheckaumm
11:24.03CellTerminator: u are really very far educationally, when i was 12 i played with Lego, and i had no pc
11:24.03Dougheckano
11:24.04TerminatorPatLabor221: bmx biking
11:24.17akira_Terminator: wo bleibste?
11:24.28DougheckaCell: when I was 12, I was stuck on a centris 610
11:24.29akira_Terminator: dont want to fight?
11:24.39PatLabor221I used to do a fair amount of mountqan biking
11:24.44Cell:)
11:24.46TerminatorCell: i got top grade in every class last year
11:24.47PatLabor221when I was 12 I realy wanted a nice BMX tho
11:24.56Dougheckabike
11:25.02Terminatorakira_: huh
11:25.06CellTerminator: yes u have to be good
11:25.12akira_i am waiting
11:25.26Cellsame as doug
11:25.27Terminatori am gonna get a diamondback demon for christmas
11:25.50PatLabor221I remember when my only way to get stuff was from holidays :)
11:25.58Dougheckaheh
11:26.00Terminatorlol
11:26.12PatLabor221I remember the first time I realised that "hey I got the money for this stuff now"
11:26.20Terminatordoug them things are two expensive for me
11:26.28PatLabor221tho I did get an x-box for x-mas last year :)
11:26.31akira_Terminator:
11:26.33akira_come on
11:26.34DougheckaPatLabor221: haha
11:26.35Terminatorgotta be £200 pounds max
11:26.44DougheckaTerminator: a yup, mines lower too
11:26.54Dougheckabut maybe grandparents...
11:26.54Terminatorakira_: what are you talkining about
11:27.07jzaunDoughecka: your letters map is nuts
11:27.13Dougheckajzaun: oh?
11:27.17jzaunyah
11:27.22Celli got two matell he-man and the masters of... figures to christmas when i was 13
11:27.26jzaunits up now with alot of players
11:27.32Dougheckacaptain_proton: its, (drumroll) slick
11:27.35jzaunricho is a PITA there :-)
11:27.36Dougheckajzaun: haha
11:27.42Dougheckaindeed
11:27.45captain_protonDoughecka: but you don't know enough to really use it
11:27.47Dougheckaneeds some pyramids
11:27.47TerminatorCell: nothing wrong with that
11:27.54jzaunnah
11:28.00jzaunno lazer no pryamids
11:28.03Terminatorbrb
11:28.06Dougheckacaptain_proton: I coudl get a 5500 for 50 bucks off of ebay, touchscreen is broken
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11:28.11Dougheckajzaun: hmm, or that
11:30.00PatLabor221it's so he can look at porn
11:30.20DougheckaPatLabor221: its so I can upgrade from my philips nino
11:30.30Dougheckathats horredly old
11:30.49PatLabor221what do you use them for?
11:31.01PatLabor221it's not like you have a job or anything
11:31.12Dougheckaebooks, mp3s, webpages, and contacts
11:31.13PatLabor221I mean realy how many things do you need to play solitare?
11:31.22Dougheckaebooks
11:31.23PatLabor221you don't know any contacts
11:31.30Dougheckaover 100
11:31.34PatLabor221realbooks.
11:31.39DougheckaI have realbooks
11:32.14Dougheckaand the zaurus can play mp3s fine
11:32.47PatLabor221but you never go anywhere? what do you need portable MP3's for?
11:32.55Dougheckalistening to
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11:32.59Dougheckaand I DO go places
11:33.01Terminatorhi all
11:33.06Terminatori'm back
11:33.11Dougheckalike this friday I am leaving for florida
11:33.15PatLabor221realy we couun't tell
11:33.18Terminatornhmm an argument
11:33.21Dougheckafor tanksgiving
11:33.21captain_protonhooray
11:33.26Dougheckacaptain_proton: shuddup
11:33.31Terminatorlol
11:33.33Dougheckaand I WILL be online too
11:33.34PatLabor221see that's why You DON"T need a zaurus
11:33.41PatLabor221then you will have no wayt o get here
11:33.51DougheckaPatLabor221: u huh
11:34.17captain_protonDoughecka: soooo, lemme get this straight
11:34.25Dougheckacaptain_proton: your not strait
11:34.31Terminatordoes anyone here like the lord of the rings books or films?
11:34.33captain_protonyou're going to visit family in florida for thanksgiving
11:34.43captain_protonDoughecka: i've had infinitely more girlfriends than you
11:34.43Dougheckacaptain_proton: both grandparents
11:34.51captain_protonand you're going to spend all your time online?
11:34.59Terminatorlol
11:35.03PatLabor221doug you have not had a girlfriend
11:35.03Dougheckano, they use dialup
11:35.08Dougheckaone
11:35.34Dougheckabut she moved to idaho
11:35.48PatLabor221when?
11:35.57Dougheckahm last year
11:36.13PatLabor22114 year olds gigling dosn't count as a relationship
11:36.23Dougheckagigling?
11:36.38PatLabor221yes
11:36.44DougheckaGIGLING?
11:36.57Dougheckawe still talk today
11:37.07PatLabor221I"m sure you do
11:37.24Dougheckaevery week or so
11:37.42TerminatorPatLabor221: even at my age i don't just gigle and that with my girlfriends
11:37.54Dougheckaanyway.... this has nothing to do about me getting a zaurus
11:37.58PatLabor221at 12 that's all you better do
11:38.12captain_proton"i was so excited i almost dropped me skateboard" :)
11:38.14akira_Terminator: you wanted come back in bzflag
11:38.20TerminatorPatLabor221: oh
11:38.29Terminatoroops i mean akira_: oh
11:38.34Terminatorsorry
11:38.36Terminatori forgot
11:38.40Dougheckacaptain_proton: uh huh
11:38.48Terminatori don't wanna play right now
11:38.52Terminatormaybe l8r
11:38.54akira_you are afraid :)
11:38.58Terminatorno
11:39.01akira_:)
11:39.03Terminatorfine lets play now
11:39.07akira_nope
11:39.11Terminatorugh
11:39.20akira_i am already almost near take off
11:39.20captain_protonPatLabor221: btw that version you sent me was cool
11:39.20Terminatorthen i'm not afrid
11:39.25Terminatornu are akira_
11:39.29captain_protoni gotta redo my interface to match
11:39.32akira_Terminator: ok lets play
11:39.34akira_:))
11:39.43Terminatorok
11:39.47Terminatorwhere
11:39.48akira_where?
11:39.51akira_515
11:39.51Terminatorlol
11:39.52akira_5155
11:39.55PatLabor221did you like the shutter glasses support, and the floating hud?
11:39.55Terminatorok
11:40.00Terminatorc ya there
11:40.06captain_protoni don't have shutter glasses
11:40.12akira_i am there
11:40.12captain_protonbut the anaglyph mode worked great
11:40.23akira_i dont like anaglyph / shutter
11:40.26DougheckaPatLabor221: in what? I can test
11:40.59Dougheckahttp://bluegrass.net/techsupport/techsupportpolicy.html
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11:41.05Dougheckahe looks like hes busy
11:41.05Cellc# rocks, i feel so powerful with it
11:41.19akira_?
11:41.22PatLabor221doug you will have to re-apply
11:41.25Dougheckanow how do you feel
11:41.25akira_windows juenger
11:41.41DougheckaPatLabor221: gimme it
11:41.53Dougheckamy isp has wires running on the floor
11:42.18Dougheckapretty funny if someone trips over one and rips the nic out of a router
11:42.30PatLabor221you ISP is "hokey"
11:42.37Dougheckait is not
11:42.46Dougheckathey are very reliable
11:43.15captain_protonrouters with individual nics in them? wtf kind of back-asswards country ISP do you have?
11:43.16Dougheckanow my dsl NEVER goes down... its amazing, then my computer when bzzzzzz and my papers where gone...
11:43.20PatLabor221ohhh beta slots are filling up fast
11:43.32PatLabor221servers will be full soon
11:43.36Dougheckacaptain_proton: that was for the offices, the REAL routers are down 5 floors
11:43.50PatLabor221cap: I'm gonna upgrade your account to an admim.
11:44.12DougheckaPatLabor221: ok, I want to beta test your "thing"
11:44.28Dougheckaor better yet, I will let you beta test my program
11:44.32PatLabor221doug did you apply?
11:44.39DougheckaPatLabor221: ayup
11:44.48PatLabor221I can't add stuff to the database manualy
11:44.55PatLabor221then the system will send you the info.
11:44.57Dougheckathen where do I apply?
11:45.21Dougheckaoh?
11:45.23Dougheckawhere?
11:45.49PatLabor221it shold be posted on all the major boards, I had to move it to a difrent server
11:45.55PatLabor221my ASP guy did it
11:46.00Dougheckaoh?
11:46.03captain_protonwell i'm off
11:46.03Dougheckawhere is it?
11:46.07PatLabor221with all the trafic I couldn't hold it on my current site
11:46.10PatLabor221I don't recall
11:46.22captain_protonPatLabor221: i'll get you those benchmark tests on the new drawing stuff later today
11:46.31PatLabor221great
11:46.45Dougheckayou dont recall
11:46.46PatLabor221also make sure it works on the multiple spanned systems.
11:46.57PatLabor221no I just had them set it up and post it
11:47.02captain_protonPatLabor221: yeah, i'm gonna go test it on the SGI to see if multichannel works
11:47.21PatLabor221doug I can't get to abrowser here
11:47.26PatLabor221just go find it
11:47.28captain_protoni'm off
11:47.30Dougheckaat?
11:47.32PatLabor221it's on every board
11:48.29Dougheckaoh
11:48.29PatLabor221I think even /. had a link to it.
11:48.29Dougheckauh huh
11:48.29Dougheckawhats the name or the proggy?
11:48.29PatLabor221well sussudio helpeed me with that
11:48.29PatLabor221brb
11:48.29Dougheckaoh dear, he cant recall its name
11:48.33PatLabor221beta db's closing.
11:48.38PatLabor221it's bzedit
11:48.45PatLabor2211.8.9b4
11:49.08PatLabor221ohh just go find it
11:49.10PatLabor221your smart
11:49.17Doughecka<PROTECTED>
11:50.13Dougheckawhat forums...
11:50.20PatLabor221all of them
11:50.34DougheckaThis Account Has Been Suspended
11:50.36Dougheckau huh
11:50.47PatLabor221did It flood?
11:50.52PatLabor221I was afraid of that
11:50.55Dougheckayup
11:50.57PatLabor221I'll have to update the account.
11:51.16PatLabor221maybe I can get a file planet co-lo
11:51.43DougheckaI can host it if its 1 meg in size
11:52.05PatLabor221can you do 160 gigs a day?
11:52.12PatLabor221and it's more then 1 meg
11:52.19PatLabor221and there are the patch servers.
11:52.21Dougheckahrm, I can do 10 gigs a month
11:52.33Dougheckafor bzflag?
11:52.36Dougheckabzedit?
11:52.46PatLabor221yeah, it's now got multigame support
11:52.54Dougheckaoh?
11:53.39Dougheckaok tell me a forum this "bzedit" has been posted
11:54.32PatLabor221shaddy ness
11:54.38Dougheckayea
11:55.09PatLabor221why am I shaddy?
11:55.29Dougheckacuz your not telling any info
11:55.41PatLabor221cus I don't remember it
11:55.48Dougheckariight
11:55.52PatLabor221I'm on this thing on my phone
11:56.04PatLabor221I'm not at an office
11:56.12Dougheckariiight
11:56.33Dougheckamirc on a phone
11:56.37Dougheckaamazing
11:56.46PatLabor221laptoip on a cell pone ninny
11:57.09PatLabor221to our conmpany's dialups
11:57.41Dougheckayea, sure...
11:58.05PatLabor221we set up our old bbs lines as a pop3 pool
11:58.14Dougheckauh uhh
11:58.19PatLabor221so that we don't have to pay for an ISP
11:58.28Dougheckayea... right
11:58.29PatLabor221and to do secture net stuff
11:59.03PatLabor221our IS dep can't set up VPN, cus they are "STOPPPID"
11:59.19Dougheckauh huh
11:59.34PatLabor221no relay they are stupid
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11:59.52Dougheckauh huh
11:59.57Terminatorhi all. i'm back
12:00.17PatLabor221you don't think they are stupid?
12:00.25DougheckaI do
12:00.28PatLabor221realy they are, we didn't have mail for like 3 days
12:00.33Dougheckabut I dont belive this bzedit thing is out
12:00.46PatLabor221oh, was the /, thing a bit too far out there ? :)
12:01.00Dougheckawhat /. thing?
12:01.05Dougheckahmm
12:01.09Dougheckafedex is here
12:01.13PatLabor221when I said sussudio put it on /.
12:02.19Dougheckaas a comment?
12:02.41PatLabor221I meant to say that he posted it as a story.
12:02.59Dougheckathen it dint get through
12:03.09PatLabor221ahhh
12:03.18PatLabor221that sucks
12:03.23PatLabor221I need to be a better typest
12:03.24Dougheckauh huh
12:03.52Terminatoronce val has finished the new league site i think the league will regenerate it self a bit
12:04.34PatLabor221crud can't work on bze today
12:04.40PatLabor221must make a plug-in
12:05.03Terminatorwhen will 1.8 be coming out
12:05.10PatLabor221after 1.7e8
12:05.10Doughecka2005
12:05.10Terminatori wannna play that
12:05.18TerminatorPatLabor221: ok
12:05.36PatLabor221but the thing called 1.8 won't be what is in CVS as 1.8
12:05.39TerminatorDoughecka: no way they must have finished 2 by then or i'll kill em'
12:05.49DougheckaTerminator: you would hope
12:06.22Terminatori want da new flags
12:06.32Terminatorthats what i want the most
12:06.33Dougheckaindeed
12:06.37DougheckaI want laser cloud
12:06.38PatLabor221the 1.8 project is being mothballed
12:06.48Terminatorwhats that?
12:06.51PatLabor2211.7 line will be evolved
12:06.55PatLabor221lazer colud is dumb
12:07.08Dougheckawould be pretty
12:07.15PatLabor221cheating needs to be fixed first before more flags are added to the client.
12:07.15Terminatori'm not a lazer cloud
12:07.22TerminatorPatLabor221: ok
12:07.45PatLabor221otherwise it just makes it harder to make all the server changes, if more flags are added to the client
12:07.58Terminatorcorrect
12:08.01Dougheckayup
12:08.08Dougheckabut I want to see it in the end
12:08.17Terminatorwell just find a way to stop cheating faster
12:08.25PatLabor221doug, it changed too much in gameplay
12:08.42PatLabor221we know how to stop most of it
12:08.47PatLabor221move all the stuff to the server.
12:09.25Terminatork
12:09.40TerminatorPatLabor221: i got a question
12:09.46PatLabor221and that's a fair mout of work
12:09.47PatLabor221yes sir
12:10.16Terminatornhow do u make ur own map (well i know that part) and put up on a server in windows
12:10.28Dougheckas
12:10.34Terminatorhuh
12:10.39PatLabor221well you use bzedit or a text editor to make the map
12:10.44PatLabor221then put it in the data folder
12:10.53PatLabor221then CD to the data dir
12:10.54Terminatorwhat that?
12:11.08PatLabor221the data dir?
12:11.08Dougheckawhere is that bzshell?
12:11.16PatLabor221it's old
12:11.31TerminatorPatLabor221: data folder and data dir
12:11.39Terminatorand what does CD mean?
12:12.09PatLabor221ohh
12:12.15PatLabor221you have to use the command propmt
12:12.23PatLabor221CD meand change directory.
12:12.27Terminatork
12:12.47Terminatorplease elaborate on da command promt thing
12:12.58Dougheckainsane.... suse linux 8.1 disk 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
12:13.03Dougheckafreaking insane
12:13.04PatLabor221gime one sec
12:13.09Terminatork
12:13.28TerminatorDoughecka: we know ur insane
12:13.29Terminatorlol
12:13.31Terminatorjk
12:13.33Terminator:-)
12:13.37Dougheckauh huh
12:14.17PatLabor221ok
12:14.27PatLabor221umm what os are you running?
12:14.51Terminatoribot ducati ffa isbzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5155
12:14.51Terminator: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
12:15.02TerminatorPatLabor221: xp home
12:15.06PatLabor221ok
12:15.31Terminatoribot ducati ffa is <reply> bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5155
12:15.31Terminator: okay
12:15.34PatLabor221first you put the map you make ithe bzflag data folder
12:15.39Terminatorok
12:15.56Terminatoribot ducati ffa
12:15.56bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5155
12:15.57bzbotServer is empty
12:16.02PatLabor221and that's in c:\program files\bzflag\data
12:16.07Terminatorok
12:16.27PatLabor221ok then you go to the start menu and go to run
12:16.32Terminatoryup
12:16.37PatLabor221and enter CMD in the box that cames up.
12:16.45Terminatork
12:17.12PatLabor221that will bring up a black window
12:17.16Terminatorok
12:17.18PatLabor221that is the command propmt
12:17.23Terminatorok
12:17.27Terminatorwhat next
12:17.37Terminatoris that it?
12:17.38PatLabor221in there you type CD c:\program files\bzflag\data
12:17.41PatLabor221then hit enter
12:17.43Terminatoroh ok
12:17.45Dougheckawhy \data?
12:17.50PatLabor221doug hush
12:17.59Terminatorthats where i gonna put the map doug
12:18.11Dougheckaoh?
12:18.11PatLabor221they oyu type ..\bzfs -world "your name here"
12:18.25Terminatorwhat map name
12:18.35Terminatorwhat i saved it as?
12:18.37PatLabor221the name of the map you put in the data folder
12:18.39PatLabor221yeah
12:18.41Terminatorok
12:18.43PatLabor221lile map.map
12:18.47PatLabor221or what ever it is
12:18.48Terminatork
12:18.50PatLabor221no "s
12:19.02PatLabor221that will run a server
12:19.05PatLabor221with that map
12:19.10Terminatork
12:19.12Terminatorcool
12:19.12PatLabor221and then you can log into it from bz
12:19.19Terminatorthanx for da info
12:19.22PatLabor221sure
12:19.29Terminatorbrb restroom
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12:19.41PatLabor221he logs off to pee? what is up with that
12:20.09Dougheckalol
12:20.09PatLabor221well I'm off to lunch
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12:24.11Terminatorhi
12:24.15Terminatorback again
12:24.29Terminatoribot ducati
12:24.29bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156
12:24.30bzbotvar (R): 0 (2-2). dave (G): 1 (22-21). Satan's Evil Twin (R): 18 (37-19).
12:24.39Terminatoribot ducati ffa
12:24.39bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5155
12:24.40bzbotServer is empty
12:25.23Terminatordoes anyone know how to get ibot to forget terminator
12:25.32Terminatorif they do please do it
12:25.37Doughecka~forget Terminator
12:25.49Dougheckanope
12:25.59Terminatorit says it protected by time
12:26.06Terminatorits annoying
12:26.22Dougheckayea
12:36.14*** part/#bzflag Terminator (~Terminato@public1-seve4-6-cust16.walt.broadband.ntl.com)
12:44.00Doughecka~ibot?
12:44.00extra, extra, read all about it, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag on his server. a parse error, or a bastard
12:46.35PinguinHELP: How to get a complete CVS tree ???
12:46.59Doughecka~cvs
12:46.59cvs is probably Concurrent Versions System and is at http://www.handhelds.org/sources.html or at http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ and at http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/01/03/cvs_intro.html and http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/01/17/cvsadmin.html and http://www.red-bean.com/cvsbook/
12:47.05Dougheckadunno man
12:47.21Pinguinhm ...
12:49.40Pinguinoha ... found it ...
13:02.44*** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org 1.7e6 (Armoured Smashing Fist 2002) || rank: http://happypenguin.org/show?BZFlag || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html || 1.7 will become HEAD, 1.8 to be retired || We beg of you! Go back to infobot BZFlag!
13:03.36*** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org 1.7e6 (Armoured Smashing Fist 2002) || rank: http://happypenguin.org/show?BZFlag || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html || 1.7 will become HEAD, 1.8 to be retired || We beg of you! Go back to infobot BZFlag! || GeForce FX is introduced (doughecka)
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13:09.38Doughecka'lo BZFlag
13:10.07captain_protonDoughecka: wtf are you doing invading the picogui channel?
13:10.14Dougheckainvading?
13:10.30captain_protonnobody there cares about your news
13:10.41Dougheckanews?
13:10.44chsh[]picogui? and I respected you proton
13:11.03captain_protonchsh[]: i mostly hang there to bother scanline
13:11.11chsh[]lol, sure you do
13:11.27chsh[]do a grep "pico" ~/.bash_history
13:12.10captain_protonjupiter@bhaskara ~/projects/bzflag/lge-port]$ grep pico ~/.bash_history
13:12.10captain_proton[jupiter@bhaskara ~/projects/bzflag/lge-port]$
13:12.19captain_proton[jupiter@bhaskara ~/projects/bzflag/lge-port]$ which pico
13:12.20captain_protonwhich: no pico in (/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/blackdown-jre-1.3.1/bin:/sbin)
13:12.51chsh[]lol
13:12.56Dougheckahttp://www.wulfram.com/
13:12.58captain_protonsucka
13:13.03chsh[]which is bull
13:13.07chsh[]slocate is da shit
13:13.08chsh[];)
13:13.20chsh[]you probably renamed the binary to emacs
13:13.26chsh[]is there an emacs in your path anywhere? :D
13:13.35captain_protonwhich: no emacs in (/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/opt/blackdown-jre-1.3.1/bin:/sbin)
13:13.37captain_protoni use vim
13:13.46chsh[]oh, well then you're okay
13:13.52chsh[]:)
13:13.53Dougheckavi rulez
13:14.06chsh[]vi{m} is great
13:14.15Dougheckawhats vim?
13:14.16captain_protonchsh[]: picogui != pico
13:14.20Dougheckadiferenent?
13:14.35chsh[]here at the office I was writing a script the other day and tried ESC, :wq!
13:14.44Dougheckalol
13:15.03chsh[]doug> vi is the ancient editor, vim, elvis, etc, are all vi clones that extend vi functionality
13:15.10chsh[]vim = Vi IMproved
13:15.13Dougheckaah
13:15.15Dougheckatext?
13:15.18Dougheckadoes it need X?
13:15.18chsh[]yep
13:15.27captain_protonvim need X? huh?
13:15.29chsh[]nope, console based, but there's xVim or gVim or something
13:15.35Dougheckaoh good
13:15.41chsh[]there are gui-based interfaces to vi
13:15.42Dougheckadoes it come with all leeenox dists?
13:15.51chsh[]vi? yep
13:15.55Dougheckaanyone try that wulfram game?
13:15.58chsh[]most offer either elvis or vim
13:15.59Dougheckavim
13:16.00chsh[]wulfram?
13:16.01Dougheckak
13:16.03Dougheckayea
13:16.04Dougheckahttp://www.wulfram.com/
13:16.07Dougheckaa tank
13:16.11Dougheckagame
13:16.14Dougheckaseems to be fun
13:16.30DougheckaI was reading the old /. bzflag artical
13:16.59Doughecka?
13:17.03chsh[]did you guys play System Shock when it was new?
13:17.10Doughecka?
13:17.11chsh[]that game was friggin fun.
13:17.13Dougheckawhats dat?
13:17.16Dougheckais it free?
13:17.23chsh[]System Shock was an old Win95/Dos based PC game
13:17.31Dougheckaoh
13:17.31chsh[]really primitive graphics
13:17.34Dougheckaoh
13:17.40chsh[]but gameplay was fun. It was a tank game similar to bzflag
13:17.41Dougheckaold icky icky poo game
13:17.45Dougheckahm
13:17.56chsh[]except you couldn't jump
13:18.03Dougheckahm
13:18.07chsh[]and I have to say, bzflag's physics are questionable at best
13:18.09captain_protonPatLabor221: i have those benchmarks
13:18.10Dougheckaspectar ruled
13:18.17DougheckaPatLabor221: hes at lunch
13:18.18chsh[]:)
13:18.26Dougheckaspecter
13:18.28Dougheckawhatever
13:18.41chsh[]have you guys played Hitman 2?
13:19.01Dougheckawhats dat?
13:19.28chsh[]Windows-based FPS where you play a hired assassin
13:19.31chsh[]it's a new game
13:19.37Dougheckafree?
13:19.41chsh[]or at least, compared to Commander Keen it's new
13:19.44chsh[]nope, pay
13:19.47Dougheckaick
13:19.49chsh[]lol
13:20.01chsh[]you seem to have an aversion to paying for games, are you in college by chance?
13:20.11Dougheckano
13:20.36chsh[]ah
13:20.42captain_protonchsh[]: he's one of those people that feel that all software should be free as in beer but never does any actual work on anything himself
13:21.01chsh[]ah
13:21.12Dougheckacaptain_proton: I will... I will... when I learn C++, java, and cobal
13:21.35chsh[]cp> so how's bzflag coming along, is development still at a standstill?
13:21.47captain_protonchsh[]: we're actually getting some stuff done
13:22.13Dougheckawhats that?
13:22.21chsh[]cp> any forcefeedback joystick support? :p
13:22.29Dougheckachsh[]: never
13:22.30chsh[]doug> have you ever watched starwars?
13:22.44Dougheckachsh[]: I just saw ep1 last week
13:22.49chsh[]ugh
13:22.58chsh[]doug> do us all a favour, and go watch all the starwars films
13:23.01Dougheckaand I have seen ep 4 5 6
13:23.16chsh[]doug> watch them about 25 times a piece, and then come back.
13:23.25Dougheckaand...
13:23.28Doughecka#moseisly?
13:23.30chsh[]bleh, gotta do some crap
13:23.31chsh[];)
13:23.33Dougheckalol
13:23.39Dougheckacya
13:23.42captain_protonchsh[]: nope
13:24.12captain_protonchsh[]: i'm thinking of adding double-joystick support like the original battlezone had but i'm waiting for someone to donate 2 usb joysticks to the cause
13:24.42Dougheckacaptain_proton: see? you dont pay for anything either?
13:25.53captain_protonDoughecka: i own every piece of software i have
13:26.04Dougheckasad, aint it?
13:26.10captain_protonnot really
13:26.19captain_protoni have a warm fuzzy feeling
13:26.23captain_protonlike swallowing a kitten
13:26.27Dougheckasee? now its getting into his head?
13:30.14NonToxicAnd everybody say... Yatta!
13:31.04Doughecka~yatta
13:31.04i haven't a clue, Doughecka
13:37.52Dougheckaever hear of Wulfram?
13:37.58PatLabor221cap I tell you, you need to support the controller from Steel Batalion.
13:37.59Dougheckahttp://www.wulfram.com/
13:38.28PatLabor221vas es los?
13:38.39Dougheckatank game
13:39.26PatLabor221with some RTS stuff in it
13:39.35Dougheckaindeed
13:39.58Dougheckabig download
13:43.28PatLabor22122 megs?
13:43.28PatLabor221how is that large?
13:44.40PatLabor221looks like they realy like brown
13:44.51PatLabor221now if you want to see a BZ clone go play tanarus :)
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14:15.38anacondahi
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14:24.34CelldirectX9.0 is it here?
14:28.04captain_protonwtf
14:28.09captain_protoni can't shoot a GM without suiciding
14:42.23chsh[]GM?
14:57.42captain_protonwow
14:58.01captain_protonthe tesselation we do for dynamic lighting is HUGE
14:58.21captain_protonand when i say huge, i man ABSOLUTELY FSCKING HUGE!
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15:04.31NonToxichttp://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007EPJ6//103-8995912-3862217?v=glance&s=electronics&vi=safety
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15:20.05captain_protonhmm
15:20.13captain_protonfound a boog but i'm not sure whats causing it
15:22.17PatLabor221proalby cus you left some food out overnight
15:22.23PatLabor221like a soda can
15:22.35PatLabor221they are atracted to that
15:26.22captain_protoni just looked at the stats for bzflag
15:26.31NonToxicibot bzstats
15:26.31NonToxic: I give up, what is it?
15:26.35NonToxicibot bzstat
15:26.35NonToxic: I don't know, could you explain it?
15:26.46captain_protonibot bzstats is http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=3248
15:26.46okay, captain_proton
15:27.36PatLabor221fiar number of page views
15:28.12captain_protonit drops mouse input every once in a while
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15:29.36BZFlagibot no, bzstats is http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=last_30&group_id=3248
15:29.36okay, BZFlag
15:30.08sussudio1) the gf fx was NOT introduced, it's in devel. 2) why is this even in the topic here?
15:30.38*** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> http://BZFlag.org 1.7e6 (Armoured Smashing Fist 2002) || rank: http://happypenguin.org/show?BZFlag || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html || 1.7 will become HEAD, 1.8 to be retired || We beg of you! Go back to infobot BZFlag!
15:30.39PatLabor221bzflag: are you still givin out bzflag.net domains?
15:30.55sussudioisnt bzflag.net proton
15:31.00PatLabor221ohh yeah
15:31.02PatLabor221Imean .org
15:31.58PatLabor221I'd like bzedit.bzflag.org
15:32.17BZFlagPatLabor221: email me the ip or host to alias it to and I'll add it.
15:32.31PatLabor221ok, thanks
15:32.57NonToxicBZFlag: NonToxic.owns.you.at.BZFlag.org -> 24.91.20.207 =)
15:33.02*** topic/#bzflag by BZFlag -> http://BZFlag.org 1.7e6 (Armoured Smashing Fist 2002) || rank: http://happypenguin.org/show?BZFlag || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html || 1.7 will become HEAD, 1.8 to be retired
15:33.18BZFlagheh
15:34.27BZFlagwho's complaining about ibot being a blootbot?
15:34.41BZFlagspecific complaint?
15:34.42PatLabor221it wont do a "Seen" anymore
15:34.43sussudiohm, let's see. complaining = doug
15:34.54BZFlag~seen andersee
15:34.54andersee is currently on #uclibc (3h 49m 53s) #tuxscreen (3h 49m 53s).  Has said a total of 15 messages.  Is idling for 17m 22s
15:34.59PatLabor221ibot: seen bzflag?
15:34.59bzflag is currently on #uclibc (2h 25m 30s) #tuxscreen (2h 25m 30s) #zaurus (2h 25m 30s) #utah (2h 25m 30s) #bzflag (2h 25m 30s) #openzaurus (2h 25m 30s).  Has said a total of 9 messages.  Is idling for 5s
15:35.03ToxicodingWell, it's generally rude =), seen is broken (for people who have signed off)
15:35.08Toxicodingibot: seen NonToxic
15:35.08nontoxic <irc@h002078c680df.ne.client2.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 1m ago, saying: 'I'm going to go AFK for awhile'.
15:35.11Toxicodingergh
15:35.12PatLabor221it's difrent then it was before
15:35.22PatLabor221if they are offline it dosn't say anything.
15:35.24Toxicodingit doesn't work like it used to (people who signed off awhile ago)
15:35.30sussudioohyeah....... i updated cvs last night, flag info is okay now, but the box is too low and overlaps text input for sending messages........
15:35.35BZFlagPatLabor221: the only thing constant is change. ;-)
15:35.41PatLabor221this is true
15:35.45BZFlagibot seen crs23
15:35.45BZFlag: i haven't seen 'crs23'
15:35.51BZFlagibot seen crs32
15:35.51BZFlag: i haven't seen 'crs32'
15:36.04BZFlaghmm. ibot seen timriker
15:36.11BZFlagibot seen timriker
15:36.11i haven't seen 'timriker', BZFlag
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15:36.41BZFlagPatLabor221: the nontoxic seen Toxicoding did showed up.
15:36.51PatLabor221well that's good
15:37.03[STC]creeperzhow do I tell which map is up and which map is next up?
15:37.03PatLabor221perhaps it was just being pissy last night
15:37.07ToxicodingHm.
15:37.23PatLabor221ohh I don't think it shows the next one
15:37.23BZFlagsussudio: I've been changing some layout things. I plan to do more before release.
15:37.26ToxicodingIf I /quit, and you wait a few hours it will forget me
15:37.42BZFlagToxicoding: I doubt that.
15:37.46[STC]creeperzWhere does it show the current one?
15:37.53ToxicodingBZFlag: It didn't remember you last night...
15:38.07PatLabor221stc: usualy in the server map name when you log in, I don't know if it shows it while your playing.
15:38.08BZFlagToxicoding: really? /me checks the logs
15:38.17ToxicodingI think it was doing something odd like that last night
15:38.27[STC]creeperzaww
15:38.40PatLabor221I may be wrong tho
15:39.20BZFlag21:21.05 </#bzflag> i haven't seen 'bzflag', NonToxic
15:39.30BZFlaghmm.. there does appear to be a bug there.
15:39.51Toxicodingthat and it's laggy
15:39.52ToxicodingVERY laggy
15:40.02Toxicodingoh, and it's missing botmail
15:40.41BZFlagbotmail was in memory only. the new blootbot forks so botmail would not be preserved. I need to conver tht botmail over to use disk storage and then it will be back.
15:40.44BZFlagpatches welcome.
15:40.50Toxicodingok.
15:42.50BZFlagwierd. last nights logs have output in them that should only happen in debug mode.
15:43.10PatLabor221are negitive scales valid for objects in the map?
15:43.29BZFlagnot really, but they are used.
15:43.40PatLabor221shoud I allow them?
15:45.29PatLabor221All of BZE's object edit dialogs are being redone now, so I'm in a place where I can set limits now.
15:45.29BZFlagI would.
15:45.29PatLabor221ok
15:53.16BZFlagibot: nslookup bzedit.bzflag.org
15:53.34ToxicodingKPRFF!!!
15:53.37ToxicodingKWin just blew up
15:58.04PatLabor221thank you sir,
15:58.10PatLabor221now for a bit of ASP work
15:58.58PatLabor221is there anyway to make that a redirect, and have it not go to the IP, like dougs did?
15:59.43BZFlagPatLabor221: it is a redirect, just that ibot does not report it that way
15:59.57PatLabor221ok then I reaLY hate my ISP
16:00.08BZFlag[triker@hades drdos]$ host bzedit.bzflag.org
16:00.09BZFlagbzedit.bzflag.org. is an alias for www.artemisgames.com.
16:00.09BZFlagwww.artemisgames.com. has address 63.119.175.13
16:00.20PatLabor221ok thanks
16:01.01BZFlagwell, cname is more correct actually. redirect is a http term.
16:01.02PatLabor221damn it looks like they won't let any other domains through unless I give them $25
16:01.14BZFlagthe way is is should work with a virtualhost entry.
16:01.15PatLabor221I didn't know the real name for it.
16:01.52PatLabor221unless me site is down
16:02.24Dougheckahmm
16:02.32PatLabor221nope, they must be doing something tricky, I get a 403
16:02.44DougheckaI go through no-ip
16:02.53PatLabor221I know you do doug
16:03.11PatLabor221but I'm on a virtual web server.
16:03.18Dougheckaick
16:03.25PatLabor221I think they use the domain to route to the right folder
16:03.50PatLabor221I'll just have to set up an HTTP redirecter somewhere
16:04.25PatLabor221or put a webserv at home
16:04.32Dougheckahrm
16:05.32Dougheckais there a free program that I can use to move my audio track around?
16:05.38Dougheckaso I can sync it?
16:05.52Dougheckavirtual dub is too tricky
16:06.05DougheckaI would have to save it and view it to see if I got it right
16:06.17Toxicoding~nslookup nontoxic.owns.you.at.bzflag.org
16:06.18Toxicoding=)
16:06.30Dougheckahah
16:07.49Doughecka~nslookup you.are.being.watch.and.will.be.banned.bzflag.rulez.bzflag.org
16:13.12BZFlagPatLabor221: I could put up a redirect on my home box (the list server) if you like. Got a suggested apache config entry?
16:13.32PatLabor221I don't know what an apache config entry is :/
16:13.38Dougheckalol
16:13.55PatLabor221I'm not very web server savy
16:14.13PatLabor221I just get wierd ideas every so often
16:14.19Dougheckaindeed
16:14.43PatLabor221basicly unless my server gets www.artemisgames.com in the URL it won't like it
16:14.56Dougheckahm
16:14.59PatLabor221that's what I get for the cheap hosting.
16:15.11sussudiouse .htaccess
16:15.15PatLabor221I just wanted something that was easyer for people to remember
16:15.38PatLabor221what is .htaccess?
16:15.44sussudioRedirect /dougsucks http://fivedollah/soldiahboy.htm
16:16.48PatLabor221it would be nice if it could just take anyting that was going to bzedit.bzflag.org and replace that part with www.artemisgames.com
16:16.56PatLabor221that would just get them to the page.
16:17.43PatLabor221but I guess if it just sent bzedit.bzflag.org to http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit/ that would be fine as well
16:24.35paulBZFlag: tim, oh sage of many things OpenGL and Linux, you got any opinions on ATi Radeon 7500?
16:25.12PatLabor221can get a GF2 mx rather cheap
16:25.13captain_protonBZFlag: can you point bzedit.bzflag.org to 161.97.199.99 ?
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16:25.40Dougheckaand the GF2 mx runs at 60+ fps in bzflag
16:25.40PatLabor221since the GeForce FX will be anounced today.
16:25.41BZFlagcaptain_proton: anywhere you folk decide.
16:25.52paulPatLabor221: nah.. i wont buy a GeForce.
16:26.03Dougheckapaul: traitor
16:26.06paulhas to have linux support.
16:26.10paulDoughecka: why? :)
16:26.15PatLabor221the GF's have it
16:26.21PatLabor221nvida has a set of drivers
16:26.22Dougheckagf2 have leeeenox support
16:26.26paulno it doesnt
16:26.30PatLabor221yeah
16:26.34PatLabor221running it at home
16:26.36PatLabor221in redhat 8
16:26.38BZFlagpaul: nope. no boxes with that card at present.
16:26.50paulBZFlag: anything you can recc'd?
16:27.09BZFlagthey all suck for different reasons.
16:27.21sussudioi have an ati radeon 7200 all-in-wonder
16:27.33paulPatLabor221: closed source kernel driver. no thanks. (i've experienced the pain of closed kernel drivers before. never again)
16:27.52paulBZFlag: well everything sucks, just a question of which sucks the least :)
16:27.54Dougheckapaul: its not BAD
16:27.58PatLabor221then what? you have ATI or matrox
16:28.00captain_protonpaul: the nvidia driver is a LOT higher quality than any dri module - i don't care about the licensing if it works
16:28.07PatLabor221matrox dosn't have drivers yet
16:28.24BZFlagthe boxes I'm mast happy with at the moment are matrox g450s but the 3d performance is not stellar.
16:28.40paulcaptain_proton: unfortunately i have philosophical problems with closed kernel drivers.
16:28.58paulBZFlag: aye, i'm using G200 - excellent card, just not fast.
16:29.01BZFlagcaptain_proton: will it work in my powerpc mac running 2.5.48 ?
16:29.15paulcaptain_proton: will it work on my alpha?
16:29.35Dougheckawill it work on a LC?
16:29.42PatLabor221mac nvidia cards need a difrent rom for the mac to see it
16:29.46paulsussudio: what do you think of your 7200?
16:29.48captain_protonwhy would anyone put a geforce in an alpha?
16:29.50Dougheckayou can flash it
16:30.02paulcaptain_proton: cause you need graphics?
16:30.10BZFlagcaptain_proton: why not? oh. stinking closed source driver does not allow it.
16:30.17paulcaptain_proton: (ok ok.. actually i dont have an alpha - i sold it. but still)
16:30.25Dougheckapaul: heh
16:30.29sussudiocompared to a tnt2 it's superdooper.......
16:30.36paulsussudio: you'd recc'd it?
16:30.38sussudiotnt2 = jaggy slow poop
16:30.48paulsussudio: what kind of fps do you get from bzflag?
16:30.49sussudioi only have a tnt2 as comparison
16:30.52captain_protongrumblegrumble - i see no reason to not use software because i disagree with its license
16:30.52BZFlagPatLabor221: not true under linux. just for macos.
16:30.55sussudiodepends on the map
16:31.09captain_protonunless that license is prohibitive beyond reason (like bitkeeper)
16:31.15paulcaptain_proton: thats your right.
16:31.39paulcaptain_proton: though the NVidia driver is at best bordering on copyright infringement.
16:31.43sussudioi can get as low as 70 or as high as 200
16:31.44PatLabor221wow they added free bsd drivers for the nvidias
16:31.49paulsussudio: not bad.
16:31.53BZFlagcaptain_proton: I don't care if it's non-free. though I'd prefer drivers to be free. I _do_ care that I don't get the source cause that means I'm tied to whichever kernel/x they choose to support.
16:32.04Doughecka20 on alphebit
16:32.05paulexactly
16:32.28BZFlagso a closed source driver == prohibitive beyond reason
16:32.39paulcaptain_proton: closed kernel drivers are an absolute pain in practice.
16:32.55paulnever mind about philosophical issues.
16:33.48PatLabor221wnat a Voodoo 5?
16:34.00PatLabor221got one of those round here somehwere
16:34.01Dougheckayea!
16:34.13PatLabor221doug you have a better card then that now
16:34.38paulanyway... so Matrox G450 / G550 or ATi 7200 / 7500 is the consensus?
16:35.32PatLabor221why not get a 9000?
16:35.42BZFlagpaul: try em both and tell us which sucks less. ;-)
16:35.56paulPatLabor221: i dont think there's linux support yet for the 8500 and 9000
16:36.07PatLabor221ick
16:36.17paulBZFlag: no probs if you promise to buy the suckier one off me afterwards :)
16:36.20PatLabor221sucks since the 9000 is only $14 more
16:36.23DougheckaI want a 9000 all-in-wonder
16:37.05PatLabor221*sigh* nvidia has made there first card that has a power connector :(
16:37.19Dougheckaheh
16:37.22Dougheckaand a super fan
16:37.25Dougheckatakes 2 slots
16:37.28PatLabor221nope no fan
16:37.32paulPatLabor221: well, it will be supported eventually, its just its WIP at moment.
16:37.47Doughecka?
16:37.50captain_protonPatLabor221: it takes a lotta power to run one of em, only so much on the bus
16:37.51Dougheckate NV3?
16:38.02paul(iirc, weather channel paid for development of 7500 drivers and is also paying for 8500 / 9000 development.)
16:38.02PatLabor221yeah VN30
16:38.05PatLabor221NV 30
16:38.15PatLabor221GF FX
16:38.18PatLabor221anounced today
16:38.36PatLabor2218 pixels per clock
16:38.39Dougheckayea
16:38.43Dougheckait has 1 fat fan
16:38.51Dougheckahttp://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q4/021118/geforcefx-03.html
16:38.55PatLabor221yeah I see that it was removed for the pic I saw
16:39.12PatLabor221lots of new shader stuff in it
16:39.23PatLabor221and they can handle FP values in the sahders now
16:39.52DougheckaFP = first post?
16:40.02sussudio~sud
16:40.02Shut Up, Doug.
16:40.05PatLabor221floating points
16:40.20Dougheckaah
16:40.33PatLabor221uses DDR2 that's nice too
16:40.48Dougheckaindeed, nice and fast
16:41.30PatLabor221hmmm they are compresing all kinds of stuff on the card too
16:41.45PatLabor221even the z
16:41.51Dougheckawhy cant they use a athlon xp chip for the GPU?
16:41.54Dougheckaaint it fast?
16:41.56paulto save on RAM presumably
16:41.59PatLabor221it's not speed
16:42.08PatLabor221it's the features it has
16:42.17PatLabor221athalons are general peourpose
16:42.29Dougheckayea
16:42.31PatLabor221this thing is designed specificly to do certan things
16:42.35PatLabor221and do them well
16:42.37Dougheckabut cant the MHZ make up for it?
16:42.41captain_protonDoughecka: no, it can't
16:42.44PatLabor221it's all very piplelinght
16:43.10PatLabor221actualy looks like the chip can do direct operations on the compresed data
16:43.11Dougheckayea..
16:43.12PatLabor221that's nice
16:43.23captain_protona modern gpu has a LOT more transistors than a CPU, and they're ALL applied to the very specific tasks of graphics
16:44.06Dougheckahmm
16:44.14DougheckaI see
16:44.25PatLabor221and they have a new 8x oversampler that they will expose to D3d and OGL
16:44.29paulcaptain_proton: you looked at transistor count for itanic? its well over 100M.
16:44.31paul:)
16:45.30Doughecka100million?
16:45.30paulcaptain_proton: what are the GPUs at?
16:45.36Doughecka125 million transistors
16:45.39Dougheckalol
16:46.15captain_protonnv30 is approximately 120M
16:46.55captain_protonyay for loud organ music
16:47.02Dougheckaloud?
16:47.06captain_protonyes
16:47.07captain_protonloud
16:47.08Dougheckahuh? what did you sau?
16:47.26paul120M for NV30? eek.
16:47.43PatLabor221they say 125
16:48.08captain_protonthats why it sucks so much power
16:48.14PatLabor221looks like the entire bottom surface is pins too
16:48.27PatLabor221well at least it dosn't take an external power supply
16:48.43Dougheckaheh
16:48.59pauleek..
16:48.59captain_protonPatLabor221: where are you looking?
16:49.15Dougheckacaptain_proton: http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/02q4/021118/geforcefx-02.html
16:49.15PatLabor221on there diversions page
16:49.18PatLabor221under facts
16:49.43paulintel are planning on Itanium2 being 500M transistors!
16:50.18PatLabor221doug tha'ts just a refence card
16:50.41Doughecka500million...
16:50.52Dougheckamust be hard wiring it all up
16:50.55captain_proton1 billion monkeys with a billion copies of orCAD...
16:51.12Dougheckahm
16:51.13paulcaptain_proton: you're so cynical.
16:51.15paul:)
16:51.24Dougheckaone monkey per transitor+backups
16:51.48captain_protonthey have understudies
16:52.29Dougheckaoh yea
16:52.29paulDoughecka: nah... they kidnap teenage boys and make them work with ultra-fine solder wire till their hands are completely shredded. then they throw them in the hydrochloric acid vats that every FAB has.
16:52.58paulDoughecka: be careful doug...
16:54.22Dougheckaah
16:58.36PatLabor221nice lossless hardware 4:1 color compresion
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17:26.01captain_protoni almost got myself banned just now :)
17:27.31Dougheckahow?
17:27.41captain_protonby being a better player than spaceman spiff
17:27.46Dougheckahah
17:29.08captain_protonnot a difficult task
17:29.18sussudioyeah i told you so
17:29.23sussudiospiffy needs his bzcop revoked
17:29.30Dougheckauh huh
17:29.39sussudiohe tried the same crap on me
17:29.55sussudioi can exactly tell you how it went
17:30.01sussudio"oh you hit me with a lucky shot"
17:30.05sussudio"oh lucky again"
17:30.10sussudio"you're so lucky"
17:30.16sussudio"stop hunting me"
17:30.24sussudio"stop hunting me, i'm a bzcop and i will ban you"
17:30.31sussudiopiece of crap
17:30.46Dougheckahttp://www.wulfram.com is very hard
17:30.53captain_protonsussudio: i'm gonna get him to ban me then i'll strip him of privs
17:31.01sussudiogoodie
17:32.03captain_protonuntil it actually happens he's just an inflated kid
17:32.21sussudioyou can call it FAT these days again, i think
17:32.56captain_protoninflated ego* ;)
17:33.13jzaunwhats up all?
17:33.22sussudiois anyone going to watch the supposed lightshow tonight?
17:33.27sussudioit's cloudy here :-(
17:33.31jzauncaptain_proton: who you trying to get to ban you?
17:33.38sussudiojzaun: spiff.
17:33.49jzaunHe acting up again?
17:33.54sussudioyep
17:34.05captain_protonjzaun: yeah, ignore him for now ;)
17:34.13captain_protonso far he only threatens and whines
17:34.20Chestalducatis running CVS code now, btw.
17:34.22jzauncaptain_proton: if you've seen it you can take hid BZC away
17:34.33jzaunsussudio: unfortunatly... he is always good around me
17:34.40captain_protonjzaun: to be honest, its a lot of fun doing that to him :)
17:34.44sussudiojzaun: logon with another nick.
17:34.52captain_protonso when he finally crosses the line (kick, ban) i'll strip 'em
17:35.10jzauncaptain_proton: makes sense, think he will?
17:35.37sussudioi think he uses the nick 'a polish sausage' too..... i had that dork threatening me yesterday on jzaun
17:36.13jzaunWell, he ain't a BZC under that nick... should use it against anyone....
17:36.34sussudiobzcop is nick based??
17:37.06jzaunHe knows all the pasword and everything but I've asked BZCs to only be a BZC under one nick
17:37.24sussudiok
17:37.37jzaunI just posted (last night) BZC rules and general ethics and rules
17:37.47jzaunonly the BZCs can see the BZC rules though
17:38.03jzaunbasically they boil down to don't abuse your power
17:38.29sussudioi could use bzcop
17:38.41sussudiousually when i'm on early in the morning few people are on
17:38.53jzaunget someone to recomend you for it :-)
17:38.53sussudiocheatbots appear
17:39.12jzaunhave them email a bzc with the recomendation or see a bzc in here
17:39.13sussudioshould just kick automatically on random number callsigns
17:39.31jzaunnoodleman is working on a BZC bot...
17:44.21sussudiohm.
17:44.23sussudio"Penis~ I love SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
17:44.28sussudioon noodleroni
17:44.35sussudioseems inappropriate callsign
17:44.47jzaunjust a bit...
17:44.52jzaunlet me log in :-)
17:45.04sussudio"mommy, what's a penis?"
17:45.22sussudio"NO MORE BZFLAG FOR YOU, DOUG!"
17:45.32jzaunerr...
17:45.36jzaunBZC don't work there
17:46.31jzaunjust jzaun and noodleman so far
17:46.31sussudiok
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17:46.32paulnight
17:46.32ak|rahei
17:46.32jzauncap wont look at the scripts so his server works with BZC for some reason though... :-( :-(
17:46.32jzaunhello ak|ra
17:47.08ak|rahri
17:47.12ak|rahei
17:49.26sussudiomap 143 on jzaun is going to crash clients.
17:49.59sussudiothere's an out of range teleporter link in it
17:51.33jzaunWhs map is it?
17:51.37jzaunwhos*
17:51.40sussudiocreepers
17:51.54jzaunYou wanna email em or should I?
17:52.07jzaunYou could post a news notice about it too if you wanted
17:53.22sussudioyou can email him
17:54.59sussudiocan you make a logic checker for links before the map is submitted? just add up # of teleporters and if link > (teleporters * 2) - 1 there's an illegal link.....
17:55.51jzaunhmmm......
17:55.58jzaunwell........
17:56.05jzaunI can try :-)
17:56.10sussudiomkay
17:56.22sussudiojust parse the map, inc(teleporters) and stuff.....
17:56.31Dougheckaalot of maps dont work
17:56.48Dougheckaif the map doesnt work, the server crashes and it switches to another map
17:56.50jzaunDoughecka: got a list you can email me?
17:57.01Dougheckano
17:57.13DougheckaI only know a few
17:57.37Dougheckabut if you click on the link and start a server, it never starts
17:57.59jzauncreepers was just running onew
17:58.23Dougheckahmm
17:58.35sussudiolooks like wankerspanker finally fixed 105
18:02.59sussudiojzaun: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/bzflag/mapclean
18:03.14sussudioi probably need to make the errormessages less cryptic
18:03.35jzaungot the source anywhere
18:03.44sussudioyeah, in pascal
18:03.45jzaunI would need to convert it to PHP
18:04.38sussudioi think i'll change the error messages to "warning" and "fatal"
18:05.15sussudioi have no idea how you would convert this to php
18:05.20sussudiobetter start from scratch
18:05.40jzaunI can do that :-)
18:06.08jzaunworking on it now actually
18:06.15jzaunwhat all were you checking for?
18:06.23sussudiolemmesee
18:06.49sussudioconvert tabs to spaces
18:07.24sussudiocleans up tags
18:07.49sussudiolike incrementally make boxnumbers go up, instead of box 1 copy copy copy etc
18:08.05sussudiocount teleporters, check against highest link
18:08.23sussudiocheck for multiple from links, although that doesnt seem to be fatal
18:08.30sussudioappearently it will take the last one
18:08.57sussudioremove trailing spaces
18:09.11sussudiothat's about it
18:09.32jzaunok... I got some catchup to do :-)
18:09.50PatLabor221the new bzedit will be easyer on links
18:10.27sussudiomkay
18:10.28PatLabor221won't let you define funky ones
18:10.29Dougheckaheh
18:10.52sussudiocan you make it check for teleporters inside boxes?
18:11.12PatLabor221and it'll check for multiple links with the same source
18:11.22PatLabor221like all the way in?
18:11.38sussudiowell just a bit in will seal a player
18:12.16sussudioprobably best to check when you're creating the teleporter
18:12.49PatLabor221so it can't intersect at all?
18:13.02Dougheckajust make sure there is no teleporter sticking into a box
18:13.50sussudioPatLabor221: yeah, basically
18:14.10PatLabor221plane/plane intersections
18:14.27sussudiolike when there's a box at height 12, z 3..... dont put a teleporter on height 14
18:14.46sussudio*cough* gerbil *cough*
18:15.13PatLabor221it can be done
18:15.21PatLabor221I wasn't planing on going that far initaly
18:16.08sussudiobehind the couch
18:17.24PatLabor221actualy bounding cylinders may be close enough
18:18.21sussudioaww cheatbot on turkey.moongroup
18:24.19PatLabor221hmm, think it's ok to not let people make links untill they have defined there teleporters?
18:25.00sussudioyeah
18:25.26PatLabor221and is it ok to not let them make links that start and end on the same teleporter
18:25.30PatLabor221but difrent sides
18:25.50sussudioyeah there's no point to that
18:25.57PatLabor221I thought so
18:26.22sussudio[Create Illegal Link y/n/i am gerbol]
18:26.38PatLabor221actualy I won't let you make these at all
18:26.56PatLabor221the only one that will be a warning will be the intersections when I do those
18:27.02sussudiok
18:27.10PatLabor221if they realy want it, they can put it in manualy
18:27.20PatLabor221I'm not even exposing Link ID #s
18:35.10jzaun143 144 must not have uploaded at all, there is no map data at all
18:36.00jzaunsussudio: Do you know a map that has a broaken link?
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18:38.15[STC]creeperzne1: how do I set up my world so I can play on it too?
18:38.34[STC]creeperzusing jzaun.com
18:38.35jzaunhey there
18:38.41[STC]creeperzor whatever
18:38.44[STC]creeperzhi
18:38.48jzaunyah... in the world list, click on the title
18:38.49Widget42. Ne1 Bxe1
18:38.52jzaunbut wait a sec first
18:38.59[STC]creeperzok
18:39.06jzaunI'm working on a map checker
18:39.15[STC]creeperzohhhhh...(??)
18:39.18jzaunyour map hase a error that will crash client
18:39.28jzaunhttp://stats.bzflag.org/mapcheck.php?mapid=145
18:39.34jzaunDouble check your links
18:39.35[STC]creeperzhuh?!
18:39.39sussudiojzaun: 143
18:40.29[STC]creeperzI just have to link the remaining teleporters?
18:40.39jzaunno thats just a warning
18:40.45[STC]creeperzoh
18:40.53jzaunyou have a teleporter linked to a non-existant place
18:40.57[STC]creeperzThen what's goin' on?
18:40.59[STC]creeperzohh
18:41.11[STC]creeperzhmmmm, I'll check file...
18:41.11jzaunsomething is linked to teleporter # 46
18:41.23[STC]creeperzside #46?
18:41.43jzaunyup
18:41.45[STC]creeperzor teleporter 46?
18:41.49sussudioside 46
18:41.50[STC]creeperzoh side 46
18:41.53[STC]creeperzok
18:41.54jzaunsomewhere in there and side #6 doesn't exist
18:41.59jzaunerr #46
18:42.06sussudiothere's 23 teleporters, so the link range is 0-45
18:42.14jzaunyup
18:42.23[STC]creeperzShould I just remove the teleporters and linx and restart it?
18:42.36jzaunjust check your current links
18:42.44[STC]creeperz0-45!!
18:42.47[STC]creeperzOMG!
18:42.57PatLabor221subtract 1 from them all
18:43.01[STC]creeperzI made a big ol' mistake! brb, I'll fix it
18:43.06sussudioyeah. teleporter 1 = side 0 and 1, tp 2 = 2 and 3, etc
18:43.19[STC]creeperzyea, teleporter 1, side0! Thats the beginning!
18:43.34captain_protonjzaun: add "don't kick people for hunting"
18:43.46jzaunPatLabor221: um... a coder, not a user :-)
18:43.59jzauncaptain_proton:  to BZC rules?
18:44.00[STC]creeperzhuh?
18:44.12[STC]creeperzhunting?
18:44.16[STC]creeperzwhat yu mean?
18:44.25[STC]creeperzlike chasing after yu with GM?
18:44.30[STC]creeperzor Laser?
18:44.32captain_protonjzaun: yeah
18:44.46jzauncaptain_proton: added
18:45.57jzaun[STC]creeperz: hunting is looking for the flag you want
18:46.05[STC]creeperzohhh
18:46.39captain_protonjzaun: no, its not
18:46.50captain_protonhunting is going after someone (usually the highest scorer)
18:46.58[STC]creeperzoh
18:47.04captain_protoni've had both dervish and spiff get pissy about it
18:48.06BZFlagteleporter 0 is the first one. it has sides 0 and 1
18:48.12jzauncaptain_proton: oh...
18:48.21jzauncaptain_proton: either way still not cheating
18:48.30captain_protonindeed
18:48.33[STC]creeperzI got it
18:48.38[STC]creeperzI fixed it
18:48.41[STC]creeperznow what?
18:48.54[STC]creeperzjust delete the old and put up this one?
18:48.57jzaun[STC]creeperz: yup
18:49.03[STC]creeperzok
18:49.39[STC]creeperzThis needs to be in a seperate window than the site lol
18:50.29jzaunheh..
18:50.54jzaunbbiab
18:52.36PatLabor221can there be rouge bases?
18:52.57captain_protonPatLabor221: no
18:57.28*** join/#bzflag [STC]creeperz (~42e70dac@chat.ircnet.org)
18:57.53[STC]creeperzit still won't let me play it
18:58.37[STC]creeperz<i>this sux</i>
18:58.42[STC]creeperzuugh
18:58.55[STC]creeperzjzaun
18:59.32PatLabor221he's gone
18:59.35PatLabor221he will reaturn later
18:59.40[STC]creeperznope
18:59.42[STC]creeperzhez here
18:59.47PatLabor221I know that
18:59.56PatLabor221he said he had to step out
19:00.02[STC]creeperzohhh
19:00.03PatLabor221<jzaun> bbiab
19:00.18[STC]creeperzcaptain proton
19:00.18PatLabor221you sure that someone isn't allready running a server?
19:00.22sussudio<Doughecka> i ate my pet lizard
19:00.26PatLabor221and have you tried to run it localy?
19:00.39[STC]creeperzwhat u talin' about?
19:00.43PatLabor221the map
19:00.55[STC]creeperzHow do I run it locally?
19:00.56PatLabor221jzaun only allows 1 server at a time
19:01.06PatLabor221you start a server with the map on your local machine
19:01.13PatLabor221and then connect to it.
19:01.16[STC]creeperzyes, but there is a test server thingy too
19:01.32[STC]creeperz<PROTECTED>
19:01.38PatLabor221yes, and if someone is using it, I think he only lets one use it at a time.
19:01.57[STC]creeperzoh, so I'll have to wait for my map's time?
19:02.15[STC]creeperzIt will let me launch other people's maps though
19:02.24PatLabor221ohh then your map is still bad
19:02.27PatLabor221run it localy
19:02.37[STC]creeperzhow? In windows?
19:02.54[STC]creeperzI don't have an ignition file by the way
19:03.06[STC]creeperzor will I need one?
19:03.16PatLabor221the what?
19:03.25PatLabor221ignition?
19:03.30[STC]creeperzu know, ur password, ur messages, ur flags
19:03.37[STC]creeperzor, whatever it is
19:03.43PatLabor221ohh run it manualy from the command propmt
19:03.53PatLabor221what version of windows do you have?
19:03.56[STC]creeperzWhat's the 1st thing I do?
19:03.59[STC]creeperzME
19:04.04PatLabor221*sigh*
19:04.07PatLabor221it's harder in me
19:04.25PatLabor221ok go to the start menu and hit run
19:04.38PatLabor221then enter COMMAND in the box and hit enter
19:04.39[STC]creeperzk
19:04.44PatLabor221that will bring up a black window
19:04.55PatLabor221AKA the MS-Dos prompt
19:05.00[STC]creeperzyes
19:05.19[STC]creeperznow?
19:05.31PatLabor221did you install bz in the normal folder?
19:05.40[STC]creeperzthe default?
19:05.42[STC]creeperzyes
19:05.45PatLabor221ok
19:05.51PatLabor221open up your my computer icon
19:05.55[STC]creeperzI think I did
19:05.57PatLabor221and open your c drive
19:06.07PatLabor221and go to c:\program files\bzflag
19:06.20PatLabor221and put your map in the folder called "data"
19:06.55[STC]creeperzummm
19:07.08[STC]creeperz's not showing ne thing under my C:/
19:07.09PatLabor221can't see anything in program files?
19:07.16PatLabor221welcome to the crap that is ME
19:07.22[STC]creeperznothing to link them
19:07.26[STC]creeperzyup
19:07.28[STC]creeperzlol
19:07.35PatLabor221there should be a thing on the side that says "show all files?
19:07.41[STC]creeperzoh its already welcomed me
19:07.52[STC]creeperzok
19:08.07[STC]creeperzok
19:08.18PatLabor221put it in the data folder?
19:08.39[STC]creeperzput what in the data folder?
19:08.50PatLabor221the map you made
19:08.53PatLabor221put a copy in there
19:08.56[STC]creeperzoh jas
19:09.04PatLabor221ok now back to the black window
19:09.25[STC]creeperzk
19:09.35PatLabor221type cd c:\~progra1\bzflag\data
19:09.38PatLabor221and hit enter
19:10.14[STC]creeperzinvalid directory
19:10.25PatLabor221dam
19:10.30[STC]creeperzoopz
19:10.34[STC]creeperzI typoed
19:10.37PatLabor221ok
19:11.41PatLabor221ok so it should say like c:\~progra1\bzflag\data on the command line then right?
19:11.48[STC]creeperzc:\~progra1\bzflag\data is what I type right?
19:12.00PatLabor221that should work on ME
19:12.02PatLabor221but it may not
19:12.11[STC]creeperzit isn't
19:12.21PatLabor221if not try ~progra-1
19:12.38PatLabor221ok try this
19:12.45PatLabor221type cd c:\
19:12.52PatLabor221they type dir p*.*
19:13.01[STC]creeperzwhat?
19:13.11PatLabor221type cd c:\
19:13.13PatLabor221then hit enter
19:13.17[STC]creeperzok
19:13.26PatLabor221they type DIR p*.*
19:13.29PatLabor221and hit enter
19:13.33PatLabor221then tell me what you see
19:14.14[STC]creeperzok...
19:14.36PatLabor221anything like program or something in the list that comes up?
19:14.50[STC]creeperzVolume in drive C is HP_pavilion
19:14.58PatLabor221ohh I'm sooooooo sorry
19:15.11[STC]creeperzVolume Serial Number is 211D-19E2
19:15.15PatLabor221almost as a bad as a mac
19:15.26[STC]creeperzDirectory of C:\
19:15.33[STC]creeperzyep
19:15.46[STC]creeperztheres more
19:15.51PatLabor221ok
19:15.54PatLabor221that's what I need
19:16.09[STC]creeperzWhat? what I gave u? or more?
19:16.18PatLabor221more
19:16.50[STC]creeperzPROGRA~1          <DIR>         02-11-02   6:25p Program Files
19:17.03[STC]creeperz0 file(s)                     0 bytes
19:17.22[STC]creeperz1 dirs(s)          10,953.89 MB free
19:17.31sussudiosnort.
19:19.22[STC]creeperznow?
19:19.26PatLabor221ok
19:19.34sussudioc:\progra~1\bzflag\bzfs.exe -world spirals.map -fb -j +r +s 30 -sa -ms 15 -st 1 -mp 4 pr
19:19.47PatLabor221yeah that
19:19.59PatLabor221but change the map name to your name
19:20.32sussudioi think i made spiffy cry
19:20.33sussudioYAY
19:20.49sussudioi called him an incredible laggy bastard
19:20.55sussudiohe deserved it with 1300ms
19:21.03PatLabor221over a second
19:21.07PatLabor221shit
19:21.11sussudioyup
19:21.25PatLabor221that is a lag monkey
19:21.36PatLabor221and he wanted to run a server on that?
19:21.47sussudioyou're shitting me, right?
19:21.52PatLabor221nope
19:22.05sussudioman
19:22.05PatLabor221then he came back and said "it was't working out"
19:22.11[STC]creeperzWOW!
19:22.20PatLabor221wow?
19:22.52[STC]creeperzthe $#@^ this thing just coughed up!
19:23.04PatLabor221?
19:23.13PatLabor221got an error then I take it
19:23.45[STC]creeperzyup
19:23.46[STC]creeperzyup
19:23.59PatLabor221then there is something wrong with your map still
19:23.59[STC]creeperzbad argument with my .map name or something
19:24.03PatLabor221ohh
19:24.06PatLabor221what is your map name
19:24.12[STC]creeperzyea
19:24.28[STC]creeperzI typed in teahouse.map
19:24.50PatLabor221try it as .\data\teahouse.map
19:25.47[STC]creeperzok? What was that?
19:26.10PatLabor221try it as .\data\teahouse.map
19:26.19PatLabor221since I had you put it in the data dir
19:26.36[STC]creeperzAWW!! it's gone!
19:26.45PatLabor221well that's not good
19:26.58[STC]creeperzman, u got MSN messenger or something?
19:27.08PatLabor221AIM
19:27.15[STC]creeperzI got MSN
19:27.20PatLabor221you got a real IRC client? :)
19:27.24PatLabor221I don't have MSN
19:27.40[STC]creeperzYEA! I have a real one, where to meet though?
19:28.08[STC]creeperzhuh?
19:28.13PatLabor221your using a web irc client
19:28.24[STC]creeperzfrom a website
19:28.33[STC]creeperzI have the downloaded one though
19:28.47PatLabor221web ones suck
19:28.59[STC]creeperzyea it does! lol
19:29.52[STC]creeperzwhere do I go to?
19:29.56[STC]creeperzin mIRC?
19:29.59PatLabor221here
19:30.18PatLabor221irc.openprojects.org
19:30.21PatLabor221#bzflag
19:30.31PatLabor221but I need to run home
19:30.39PatLabor221so I'll be back online in like 15
19:31.01[STC]creeperzi brb
19:31.30PatLabor221If i"m not here I'm sure susuddio will be glad to verbaly abuse you till I get back :)
19:31.52[STC]creeperzok
19:32.06[STC]creeperzlol
19:32.11[STC]creeperz:|
19:32.29PatLabor221well as soon as I find a flipin zip disk to take the busted bze home
19:33.12PatLabor221tho I sould say less busted then it was this AM
19:36.27sussudiozip disks are so 90s
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19:40.15PatLabor221ewww something is not kosher in the kitchen.
19:40.57sussudiodoug isnt kosher
19:42.16PatLabor221well he's not in my kitchen
19:44.20PatLabor221hmmm this has the air of female involvement.
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19:45.44PatLabor221ha I beat him
19:45.50[STC]creeperzaww!!
19:45.51[STC]creeperzlol
19:46.10PatLabor221and I had to drive home too
19:46.18PatLabor221hell I'm even starting dinner :)
19:46.21[STC]creeperzI HAD TO PEE!!
19:46.39PatLabor221dude you take too long to pee, are you a girl?
19:47.29[STC]creeperz$^#@ NO!
19:47.29PatLabor221I'm just kidding
19:47.29[STC]creeperzlol
19:47.29PatLabor221and what's wrong with girls?
19:47.29PatLabor221they smelll NIIIIIICCCCCEEEE
19:47.29[STC]creeperznuthin' my g\f is one
19:48.00[STC]creeperzBut she's pregnant
19:48.29sussudiospiff is being a little 'im a bzcop' bitch again
19:48.42sussudiopull his fucking status
19:49.10PatLabor221so gonna be a daddy?>
19:49.15[STC]creeperzyea
19:49.43PatLabor221friend of mine is gonna be a dady soon too
19:49.47[STC]creeperzhow old is he?
19:49.49PatLabor221so what since she's pregers, that means she dosn't smell nice?
19:49.53PatLabor22125
19:50.03[STC]creeperzno she smells nice
19:50.28[STC]creeperzlol
19:51.19PatLabor221lol?
19:51.51PatLabor221she smell funny?
19:52.23[STC]creeperzno! She smells lovely!
19:52.48PatLabor221yet you keep laughing, she smell like nitrus oxide or something?
19:53.07[STC]creeperzNitrous oxide is good
19:53.44PatLabor221makes cars go fast too
19:54.07[STC]creeperzVERY FAST!
19:54.16[STC]creeperzcept the new NOS safety tops
19:54.35[STC]creeperzthey filter it through a valve which limits too much
19:55.26PatLabor221brb need fanta
19:55.29[STC]creeperzhello?
19:55.29[STC]creeperzhello?
19:55.33[STC]creeperzok
19:56.03PatLabor221mmmm fanta
19:56.11[STC]creeperzwhats Fanta?
19:56.26PatLabor221well it's just fanta
19:56.31PatLabor221it's red
19:56.35PatLabor221and berry ish
19:56.43[STC]creeperzWhat country U live in?
19:56.44PatLabor221and cool and refreshing
19:56.46PatLabor221US
19:56.49[STC]creeperzcool
19:56.54[STC]creeperzn SD
19:57.01PatLabor221sd?
19:57.02[STC]creeperzi'm in SD*
19:57.06[STC]creeperzSouth Dakota*
19:57.12PatLabor221ahhh
19:57.17PatLabor221no fanta out there I take it
19:57.22[STC]creeperznope
19:57.25PatLabor221we have tons of fanta here in CA
19:57.26[STC]creeperzwhere u from?
19:57.30[STC]creeperzohhh
19:57.36PatLabor221gallons of it
19:58.11PatLabor221ok so now what the hell is wrong with your map?
19:58.15[STC]creeperzne way, I'm gunna play BZFlag
19:58.15PatLabor221send it to me
19:58.34[STC]creeperzok.... ummm, how?
19:58.41PatLabor221can you DCC?
19:58.44PatLabor221or e-mail
19:59.11[STC]creeperzDCC?
19:59.45PatLabor221no you can't DCC
19:59.49PatLabor221not on the web crap
19:59.54[STC]creeperznope
20:00.09PatLabor221mail it to jeffm@GibbsCAM.com
20:00.09[STC]creeperzhmmm, email me and I'll reply it back to u
20:00.33PatLabor221or jsut send it there
20:00.49[STC]creeperzok
20:02.54captain_protonhrmph
20:03.19PatLabor221hrmph?
20:03.34[STC]creeperzsent, I g2g
20:03.40PatLabor221I know
20:04.24captain_protoni need an STL container like a map that doesn't sort alphabetically
20:04.32PatLabor221cap: I tried LGE port at work and got the same errors
20:04.42PatLabor221what do you want it to sort by?
20:05.12PatLabor221insertion order?
20:05.15captain_protonyeah
20:05.22captain_protonor i could write a sorting function
20:05.28PatLabor221yeah
20:05.37PatLabor221just wrap up the stlstring
20:05.45PatLabor221and replace the  < funch
20:05.48PatLabor221func
20:05.55PatLabor221and make it allways return false or something
20:06.17PatLabor221tho I don't know if that will let them be found again
20:06.22PatLabor221it's a binary tree
20:06.45PatLabor221it'll be a very lopsided tree
20:07.11captain_protonwould be better just to write something that sorts for real
20:07.31sussudiospiff needs a beating on noodleroni
20:08.01captain_protonwait
20:08.04captain_protonthats the 100shot server
20:08.06captain_protonno thanks
20:09.41sussudiono, 1 shot actually
20:09.42sussudioand he's gone
20:09.44sussudiothe little wench
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20:15.18PatLabor221wow he made an impresivly bad map
20:15.26sussudiodoug?
20:15.54PatLabor221no that other guy
20:16.05captain_protonall of spiffs maps are impressively bad
20:16.06PatLabor221kills the MACHINE
20:16.11PatLabor221not spif
20:16.13PatLabor221that other guy
20:16.13captain_protonand he runs them all ST-only
20:16.15captain_protonGRRR
20:16.21captain_protonPatLabor221: you mean xxxx?
20:16.25PatLabor221no
20:16.36PatLabor221<[STC]creeperz>
20:16.43sussudiobah
20:16.47captain_protonah
20:16.52captain_protondcc it to me :)
20:16.53PatLabor221hell I don't think xxxx can make a map
20:17.08PatLabor221I'm still waiting for the machine to return
20:17.12sussudiothere's another spiffmap on. this means i have to make more maps to avoid that event in the future.
20:17.37captain_protonsussudio: its been an entire day of spiffmaps
20:20.40PatLabor221ok teleporters with a y scale of 0 not soo good
20:21.00sussudioerr?
20:21.10PatLabor221x is fine
20:21.14PatLabor221but not y
20:21.21PatLabor221then you can't go in it
20:21.51PatLabor221you realy want to see it cap?
20:22.24PatLabor221inc crap.map
20:23.46captain_protonoh. my.
20:23.51PatLabor221yeah
20:24.20PatLabor221perhaps there should be a map "review" before it's put into general rotation
20:38.01PatLabor221bill?
20:39.32captain_protonfor his board site
20:39.36captain_protonas in money
20:40.29PatLabor221they shut it down?
20:40.43Dougheckayup
20:41.24PatLabor221didn't know they had pay boards? or was it his entire webspace?
20:41.36captain_protonhis webspace
20:41.44PatLabor221that sucks
20:41.58PatLabor221glad mine is only $50 a year for each site I have
20:42.38PatLabor221well I should say $100 for the first
20:42.44PatLabor221and 50 for each aditonal
20:42.48Dougheckahm
20:45.51Dougheckahttp://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/16nov_leonidstv.htm
20:46.06Dougheckahmm, cloudy tonight
20:46.23PatLabor221for all the kids who are scared of the outside?
20:46.35Dougheckaor cloudy
20:47.04Dougheckabut weather.com shows the clouds to be moving
20:47.06Dougheckaso maybe
20:47.22Dougheckahttp://www.weather.com/maps/satelliteusnational.html
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21:18.04Dougheckafreaking power
21:18.16Dougheckathere is goes again
21:19.11PatLabor221or you could just be on line less
21:19.16PatLabor221you know see the real world
21:19.24sussudiodude, he lives in KY
21:19.27PatLabor221ohh yeah
21:19.31PatLabor221get batries man
21:19.34PatLabor221or a windmill
21:20.40PatLabor221bahhhh
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21:23.09Lazarusneed help with Linux
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21:23.35Lazarusanyone here   lol
21:23.40PatLabor221what kind of help?
21:23.44Dougheckagrrr
21:23.58Lazaruswell im wondering about openGL for Linux
21:24.06PatLabor221what bout it
21:24.17Lazarusi just installed RH 8 and bz plays real slow
21:24.27Dougheckayou got killed while peeing?
21:24.28Lazaruswondering if i need openGL
21:24.29Dougheckathats bad
21:24.29PatLabor221what video card you have?
21:24.35DougheckaLazarus: your toast
21:24.36LazarusTNT2
21:24.45Dougheckagee, I wonder why its slow
21:24.46PatLabor221you need the nvidia drivers
21:24.51PatLabor221doug hudh
21:24.56PatLabor221a TNT2 is ok for bz
21:25.00Lazarusi tried that and screwed everything up  lol
21:25.02Dougheckaand the TNT2 doesnt have opengl, does it?
21:25.10PatLabor221doug CHUT UP
21:25.13PatLabor221yes it does
21:25.22Dougheckaah
21:25.34PatLabor221laz: the drivers that come with RH 8 don't do hardware acceleration
21:25.44PatLabor221the ones on nvidia's site do
21:25.54Lazarusok so i should just update drivers?
21:25.58PatLabor221yes
21:26.04PatLabor221follow there instructions
21:26.10PatLabor221on the nvidia site
21:26.12Lazarusthey only have up to RH 7.3...will that make a difference
21:26.26PatLabor221I was able to use the 7.3 instructions on linux
21:26.26Lazarusim a Linux noob
21:26.35PatLabor221I did it on 8.0
21:26.44PatLabor221it's just a lot of steps
21:26.55Lazarusyeah
21:27.04captain_protonLazarus: btw, whats going on with the board?
21:27.30Lazaruswill be back this week, i was in the hospital and a bunch of stuff happened here last week
21:27.41Lazarusnot good
21:28.09Lazarusstill dont know for sure what happened to it
21:28.27PatLabor221looks like you didn't pay the bill
21:28.52Lazaruswasnt that it was a support issue, i still havent heard what the deal was, but ive been gone alot
21:29.33Lazarusi have tons of free web space to play with
21:29.47Dougheckaehrm
21:30.13Lazaruswell im gonna go try updating drivers, hopefully it goes better this time
21:30.23Dougheckaheh
21:30.33Lazarus<--dont know squat about Linux yet
21:30.53Doughecka<-- knows everything about nothin
21:31.01PatLabor221its all about typing and bui8lding your own stuff
21:31.07Lazaruslol
21:31.30Lazarustake care guys
21:31.36PatLabor221describbe doughecka should keep his mouth shut when he dosn't know about stuff
21:31.52Dougheckauh huh
21:34.56sussudioPatLabor221: can you just put a big friggin link number on teleporter sides?
21:35.09Dougheckahmm
21:35.13Dougheckacould you?
21:35.30sussudioi just made 24 teleporters and i'm trying to figure out which sides are which
21:35.30PatLabor221no I am going to remove the need to use links
21:35.34Dougheckaor just rename the teleports with 0-1, 2-3, etc
21:35.39Dougheckauh huh
21:35.40Dougheckawhen?
21:35.47PatLabor221was working on it today
21:35.53Dougheckaoh?
21:36.00PatLabor221you just tell the editor what TP and what side
21:36.05PatLabor221and I'll figure out the link
21:36.09Dougheckacool
21:36.13Dougheckahow do we know what side?
21:36.31captain_protonPatLabor221: foop
21:36.37PatLabor221there is a "front" and a "back"
21:36.45PatLabor221and there will be a little widget on the TP model
21:36.48captain_protonPatLabor221: do you have the latest panel manager lying around?
21:36.49PatLabor221that will show you
21:36.53PatLabor221here no
21:37.40Dougheckaslick
21:37.41PatLabor221making the user know the scrwy links is stupid
21:37.53Dougheckaindeed
21:38.15PatLabor221I just need to make it not crash when you click on a loink nosa
21:38.25DougheckaMany satellites recovered by manned spacecraft show pits in their metal skins caused by meteoroids.
21:38.40Dougheckaouch
21:38.46PatLabor221you didn' know that
21:38.59PatLabor221it's ablative
21:39.05Dougheckahearing dings and dinks
21:40.17Dougheckaonly 2 more hours..
21:40.18PatLabor221it's not like it's like as often as rain
21:40.24PatLabor221and they have MM shields
21:40.31Dougheckayea
21:40.36Dougheckabut tonight...
21:40.48captain_protonPatLabor221: when will you be somewhere where you have it?
21:40.58PatLabor221in the AM
21:41.03PatLabor221when I get to work
21:41.07captain_proton:(
21:41.11Dougheckayou would think some bozo would stick a suction cup mike on the shield and hear it
21:41.22PatLabor221you don't have that one you downloaded a while ago with BZXL?
21:41.27PatLabor221that's the same one
21:42.24captain_protonthe latest version of XL i have doesn't use the panel manager at all
21:42.37sussudio5331ms!
21:42.41sussudioholy fucking crap
21:42.46PatLabor221but I put up a pannel manager.zip that same day
21:43.02sussudiocreepers = 5331ms
21:43.05sussudio~sud
21:43.05Shut Up, Doug.
21:43.10PatLabor2215 seconds?
21:43.13sussudioyes
21:43.13Dougheckalanguege...
21:43.19Dougheckawho?
21:43.23PatLabor221what warats the f word
21:43.26captain_protonPatLabor221: oct 28?
21:43.33PatLabor221maye
21:43.37PatLabor221proalby
21:43.44PatLabor221don't think I've done much since then
21:43.51PatLabor221if anytying at all
21:49.42PatLabor221buffer not puffer
21:49.50Dougheckaspell?
21:49.58PatLabor221spell
21:50.11PatLabor221the spell buffer
21:50.17Dougheckaah
21:50.29PatLabor221specificly a FIFO spell buffer
21:50.46Dougheckathen its not a proper grammer sentence, its a proprietary word structure
21:51.15PatLabor221? it's a buffer for spells
21:51.25PatLabor221how is that not right?
21:53.14PatLabor221how can you shrug you made the satement
21:53.54Dougheckaimproper grammer and spelling, you should have put quotes around the spell buffer
21:54.03PatLabor221why?
21:54.16Dougheckacuz then the sentence doesnt sound right
21:54.22PatLabor221you don't put quotes around "Car"
21:54.35PatLabor221just cus you didn't read it right
21:54.36sussudio12 people on bunnies!
21:54.39Dougheckabut people dont know what  spells buffer is
21:54.39sussudioibot jzaun
21:54.39bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155
21:54.50PatLabor221what does it sound like
21:55.05Dougheckayou like spelling buffers
21:55.20Dougheckabut you had misspelled spelling
21:55.28PatLabor221what about string buffers?
21:55.38PatLabor221or cache buffers?
21:55.53Dougheckaspells buffers sound wrong
21:56.00Dougheckacapitalize it
21:56.09PatLabor221I didn't say spells buffer
21:56.13PatLabor221I said spell buffer
21:56.23Dougheckaeven worse
21:56.31PatLabor221you don't know what a spell is?
21:56.57PatLabor221do you not read?
21:57.13Dougheckaread?
21:57.16Dougheckawhats that?
21:58.26PatLabor221Main Entry: 2spell
21:58.27PatLabor221Function: noun
21:58.27PatLabor221Etymology: Middle English, talk, tale, from Old English; akin to Old High German spel talk, tale
21:58.27PatLabor221Date: 1579
21:58.27PatLabor2211 a : a spoken word or form of words held to have magic power b : a state of enchantment
21:58.27PatLabor2212 : a strong compelling influence or attraction
21:58.49Doughecka~dict spell
21:59.12PatLabor221even ibot knows
21:59.26PatLabor221apernatly not
21:59.33Doughecka~freedns
21:59.33Doughecka: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
21:59.38Doughecka~freebsd
21:59.38A stable secure open source operating system.. URL: http://www.freebsd.org/
21:59.52Doughecka~freebsd is also FreeBSD: Nothing runs like a daemon with a pitch fork.
21:59.52okay, Doughecka
22:00.13PatLabor221why must you allways mess with stuff?
22:00.38captain_protonDoughecka: are you even aware what makes freebsd different from the other bsds?
22:00.56Dougheckacaptain_proton: thats the second time you asked me that today
22:01.09PatLabor221yes your ADD must have kicked in
22:01.14PatLabor221get some more riddilin
22:01.21captain_protonDoughecka: (a) it wasn't today, and (2) you didn't really give me an answer
22:01.44Dougheckaits midnight
22:01.48Dougheckayay
22:01.50Doughecka2 more hours
22:02.45PatLabor221is that when the voices in your head stop? 2 AM?
22:02.56Dougheckano
22:03.14Dougheckathats when I put my foil hat on and go outside to see metoirs
22:04.45PatLabor221that buffer realy is the best thing they ever did to this spell system
22:09.07captain_proton../../include/LGE.h:62: parse error before `<' token
22:09.26captain_protonLGE.h:62: struct res_sort : public binary_function<std::string, std::string, bool> {
22:09.29captain_protonwhat is wrong with that??
22:09.30PatLabor221never said I built it
22:09.43PatLabor221I dono
22:09.54PatLabor221perhaps I defined it multiple times
22:10.02PatLabor221looks like the < oper
22:10.06captain_protonthis is my code here :P
22:10.10PatLabor221ohh
22:10.13PatLabor221then you suck :)
22:10.26PatLabor221I don
22:10.38PatLabor221why a struct?
22:10.41PatLabor221and not a class?
22:11.09captain_protonthe stl web page had struct
22:11.11captain_protonlemme try class
22:11.34captain_protonnope, no difference
22:13.08PatLabor221odd
22:13.40captain_protonfiggered it out
22:13.40captain_protonstd::
22:14.01PatLabor221on the struct?
22:14.06captain_protonon binary_function
22:14.24PatLabor221ahhhh
22:17.46captain_protonpoor druids
22:17.55PatLabor221well they were bad druids
22:17.59PatLabor221I just didn't mean to kill em
22:18.33PatLabor221there is an icon for the "don't move spell", and right next to it is the "blow the livin piss outa EVERYONE spell"
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22:19.55wankerspankerFINALLY!!!!!!!!!! i could not connect to here for liek 2 days for some reason!!!!!!!!!
22:19.56PatLabor221I'm realy good at that last one tho
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22:28.00Dougheckawee low voltage
22:31.53wankerspankeranybody here?
22:32.01Dougheckano
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22:33.41Morphevening.
22:33.47Dougheckamornin
22:34.00Morphanyone know off hand what the default reconnect port is?
22:34.06captain_protonMorph: 5156
22:34.12Morphgreat. thanks.
22:34.30MrApathyCreamtheres a default
22:34.31MrApathyCream?
22:34.39Dougheckayah
22:34.49Dougheckabah its cloudy
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23:23.16scanlinewb captain_proton
23:24.54captain_protonthis loaner joystick seems to work
23:26.24scanlineyay, no more widget tree corruption
23:26.46captain_protonworking on getting it opengl happy? :)
23:26.59scanlinefirst working on getting it just plain happy
23:27.08scanlinethen I suppose I'll poke on the opengl stuff a bit
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23:38.27captain_protonwheee
23:38.35captain_protoncrashing after SDL has set gamma = bad
23:39.32scanlinexgamma
23:39.51scanlineisn't SDL's segfault handler supposed to catch things like that?
23:40.51captain_protonSDL isn't deploying its parachute
23:40.56scanlineoh

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