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| 00:34.57 | KnightMare | hiya guys |
| 00:43.14 | KnightMare | anyone awake? |
| 00:44.24 | ak|ra | me |
| 00:44.45 | KnightMare | hiya you run a server? |
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| 00:51.21 | KnightMare | hiya again |
| 00:51.44 | KnightMare | ak|ra you awake still? |
| 00:51.58 | ak|ra | jes |
| 00:52.04 | ak|ra | but still not running a server |
| 00:52.14 | KnightMare | ah, ok |
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| 01:05.34 | ak|ra | hei Widget |
| 01:05.48 | Widget | hihihi |
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| 01:44.04 | ak|ra | proton-elsewhere: -> capn proton? |
| 01:44.36 | proton-elsewhere | ak|ra: indeed |
| 01:44.45 | ak|ra | running devfs? |
| 01:45.17 | proton-elsewhere | yeah |
| 01:45.47 | ak|ra | i try but something strange happen |
| 01:45.56 | ak|ra | compiled scsi stuff as a module |
| 01:46.04 | ak|ra | modprobe scsi-stuff |
| 01:46.15 | ak|ra | -> should create a link in /dev/scsi etc ? |
| 01:46.16 | ak|ra | right? |
| 01:46.35 | proton-elsewhere | /dev/scsi should be a directory |
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| 01:47.10 | ak|ra | its not there |
| 01:47.26 | ak|ra | /dev/ide is there -> compiled staticly |
| 01:47.53 | captain_pistachi | hmm |
| 01:48.02 | captain_pistachi | do you have all the necessary scsi stuff insmodded? |
| 01:48.30 | ak|ra | yes |
| 01:48.34 | ak|ra | i think so |
| 01:48.52 | ak|ra | scsi-mode |
| 01:48.54 | ak|ra | scsi-mod |
| 01:48.56 | ak|ra | sg |
| 01:48.56 | ak|ra | st |
| 01:48.59 | ak|ra | sd-mod |
| 01:49.09 | ak|ra | sr |
| 01:49.18 | ak|ra | sr_mod |
| 01:49.25 | ak|ra | aic7xxx |
| 01:49.34 | captain_pistachi | is devfs set up? |
| 01:49.49 | ak|ra | same thing with sound -> emu10k1 -> nothing in /dev/sound or better .. no /dev/sound at all |
| 01:50.18 | captain_pistachi | s/devfs/devfsd/ |
| 01:50.29 | ak|ra | yes |
| 01:50.31 | ak|ra | running |
| 01:52.00 | ak|ra | 1.3.25 |
| 01:54.01 | ak|ra | in /etc/modules.devfs |
| 01:54.13 | ak|ra | probeall /dev/scsi scsi_hostadapter sd_mod sr_mod st sg usb-storage# |
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| 01:59.28 | xxxxxxxx | does anyone know if when your want to test your world in bzedit do u save it as a .php |
| 01:59.30 | xxxxxxxx | ? |
| 01:59.47 | jzaun | nope |
| 01:59.53 | jzaun | save it as whatever you like |
| 01:59.58 | jzaun | most people use .bzw |
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| 02:01.24 | xxxxxxxx | why as .bzw |
| 02:01.47 | jzaun | .bzw is just compact to bzworld |
| 02:01.50 | captain_pistachi | convention |
| 02:02.00 | jzaun | it just a text file, you can save it as whatever you like |
| 02:02.50 | xxxxxxxx | when i save it it was a differnt icon then the ones in this site when i download a map |
| 02:03.23 | xxxxxxxx | nm figured it out myself |
| 02:03.52 | captain_pistachi | incompetance on a stick |
| 02:03.59 | jzaun | heh |
| 02:04.15 | jzaun | I still should fix the script so the filename isn;t dlmap.php... |
| 02:04.21 | jzaun | just not sure how to do that |
| 02:07.15 | ak|ra | captain_p .. any comments to my problem= |
| 02:07.40 | captain_pistachi | ak|ra: i honestly have no idea - i'd check kernel configs and play with compiling-in and stuff |
| 02:08.03 | ak|ra | think the same |
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| 03:36.41 | ak|ra | captain_proton: still awake? |
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| 06:14.53 | MrApathyCream | ~captain_proton? |
| 06:14.54 | | captain_proton is, like, Mr. Aphenphosmphobia |
| 06:15.08 | MrApathyCream | ~seen captain_proton? |
| 06:15.08 | | captain_proton is currently on #picogui #bzflag. Has said a total of 148 messages. Is idling for 5m 30s |
| 06:15.30 | scanline | meep |
| 06:15.57 | captain_proton | beep |
| 06:16.02 | scanline | spleep |
| 06:16.15 | scanline | grr..... |
| 06:16.16 | captain_proton | bloop |
| 06:16.29 | scanline | there's a memory bug of some kind in this opengl driver, but valgrind always chokes on the nvidia libGL |
| 06:16.40 | captain_proton | heh |
| 06:16.40 | MrApathyCream | cap PlayerId, is that the actual host/port of client? |
| 06:17.03 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: PlayerId is a uint1 no? |
| 06:17.14 | MrApathyCream | in 1.8 yes |
| 06:17.29 | MrApathyCream | 1.7 it's host/port/number |
| 06:17.43 | captain_proton | it is?! |
| 06:17.43 | MrApathyCream | that's the tcp port of client i assume? |
| 06:18.05 | captain_proton | i thought it was always a uint1, just in 1.7 they're not synchronized between client&server |
| 06:18.20 | MrApathyCream | from Address.h in PlayerId class |
| 06:18.21 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.21 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.21 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:18.55 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 06:18.59 | MrApathyCream | or is it really the server |
| 06:19.20 | MrApathyCream | seems silly that it would be the server, as 'serverHost' would never be different between two clients |
| 06:19.23 | captain_proton | from the comments it would seem its the server |
| 06:19.34 | captain_proton | actual "player id" is that 'number' field |
| 06:19.38 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 06:19.49 | MrApathyCream | but the whole thing gets passed around |
| 06:20.10 | captain_proton | over the wire it only sends 'number' |
| 06:20.17 | MrApathyCream | why would any msg with PlayerId in protocol do that, if serverHost was really the server host ip |
| 06:20.54 | captain_proton | aha |
| 06:21.04 | captain_proton | looks like on the server side, 'serverHost' is set to the client's host |
| 06:21.12 | captain_proton | and on the client side, 'serverHost' is set to the server address |
| 06:21.37 | MrApathyCream | void*PlayerId::pack(void* _buf) const |
| 06:21.37 | MrApathyCream | { |
| 06:21.37 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.37 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.37 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.38 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.40 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.42 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.44 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.46 | MrApathyCream | } |
| 06:21.50 | MrApathyCream | everything is passed |
| 06:21.57 | captain_proton | yick |
| 06:22.06 | captain_proton | we need to have playerids work like in 1.8 |
| 06:22.53 | MrApathyCream | yes, but in 1.7 when I receive MsgGrabFlag, for instance, is the PlayerId that's in the message contain the infor for the client? |
| 06:23.13 | captain_proton | i dunno ;) |
| 06:23.52 | MrApathyCream | if it were, it would be easy to torch jerks!! (just open a connection directly to them, and spew garbage :) |
| 06:25.21 | MrApathyCream | -- it's a wonder that the networking works as well as it does, given the stupidity of alot of the protocol |
| 06:25.41 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 06:26.03 | scanline | yay. Now I can render to a pre-existing opengl context correctly |
| 06:26.17 | captain_proton | yay |
| 06:26.33 | MrApathyCream | aan, I'm having trouble deciphering what the function scandir does.. Have you any sample code I could look at captain_proton? |
| 06:27.36 | captain_proton | http://www.linuxcentral.com/linux/man-pages/scandir.3.html |
| 06:27.52 | captain_proton | scanline: care to try? |
| 06:28.05 | captain_proton | hrm hang on a second |
| 06:28.08 | captain_proton | its pretty watery |
| 06:28.19 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:28.29 | scanline | I'll be glad to try it when it's ready |
| 06:29.43 | scanline | wow.. a grand total of only 2321 lines for every bit of OpenGL-related code in picogui |
| 06:35.30 | captain_proton | haha |
| 06:35.52 | captain_proton | one of my coworkers pointed out that jello gelatin & vodka is a more traditional combination |
| 06:35.59 | scanline | haha |
| 06:36.39 | captain_proton | scanline: did libpgtest get added to autoconf or somethign? |
| 06:36.54 | scanline | hmm? |
| 06:37.05 | captain_proton | its telling me Makefile was removed from cvs |
| 06:37.12 | scanline | oh |
| 06:37.17 | scanline | I moved it to apps/libpgtest/simple |
| 06:37.30 | scanline | planning on adding a slightly more real-world example in apps/libpgtest/jetengine |
| 06:38.00 | captain_proton | what is "MGL2" ? |
| 06:38.18 | scanline | a graphics library that seems to be popular on japanese handhelds running NetBSD |
| 06:45.33 | scanline | captain_proton: looks like that texture binding optimization helped |
| 06:46.04 | captain_proton | nifty |
| 06:52.57 | scanline | wow.. appears to be quite easy to create python modules written in C |
| 06:59.33 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:59.38 | captain_proton | this is taking its time setting |
| 06:59.43 | captain_proton | its probably quite edible |
| 07:01.12 | captain_proton | buh |
| 07:01.16 | captain_proton | barely any coffee flavor |
| 07:02.22 | scanline | more coffee next time? |
| 07:02.36 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 07:07.16 | captain_proton | #0 0x40048d4f in sdlinput_poll () at sdlinput.c:130 |
| 07:07.17 | captain_proton | #1 0x4003e262 in net_iteration () at request.c:604 |
| 07:07.17 | captain_proton | #2 0x4003e41f in pgserver_mainloop_iteration () at mainloop.c:91 |
| 07:07.30 | scanline | latest CVS? |
| 07:07.34 | captain_proton | yep |
| 07:07.44 | scanline | that was a segfault? |
| 07:07.52 | scanline | hrm.... |
| 07:10.48 | captain_proton | hehehe |
| 07:10.55 | captain_proton | my project monger buddy just came up with a new idea |
| 07:11.02 | captain_proton | a 5-7U rackmounted kitchen |
| 07:11.10 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:11.15 | captain_proton | integrate a coffee pot, hot water spigot (for ramen) and a hotplate |
| 07:11.46 | scanline | then I'd just need a rack! |
| 07:12.10 | captain_proton | http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/DR8-12%20Enlarged.asp |
| 07:12.46 | scanline | wow, they're a lot cheaper than I thought |
| 07:13.02 | captain_proton | thats just a little cheap 12U |
| 07:13.15 | captain_proton | if you want a real rack they start from about 400 |
| 07:13.21 | scanline | ah, ok |
| 07:13.30 | captain_proton | bwahaha, i just gave him another idea |
| 07:13.38 | captain_proton | use another 7U for a drinks fridge |
| 07:19.59 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:20.12 | captain_proton | the joys of contemplating technical solutions to the "no exposed heating elements" rule |
| 07:20.19 | captain_proton | in a toaster-oven context |
| 07:20.27 | scanline | airlock! |
| 07:20.57 | captain_proton | well we could cover up the heating elements when the door to the slot-loading toaster was open |
| 07:21.10 | captain_proton | or we could have two compartments and use servos to move the bread around |
| 07:21.21 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:22.45 | sussudio | heh. with obesity, the [nr] circle is too small |
| 07:23.55 | captain_proton | (00:24:40) oOTHEJRCOo: safe, efficient, easy... compact... in one toaster oven size area you have bake, boil, broil, and toast capabilities |
| 07:23.56 | captain_proton | (00:25:23) oOTHEJRCOo: attachable roller assembly to rotate hot-dogs, fries, etc |
| 07:25.34 | scanline | int main(int argc, char **argv) { |
| 07:25.34 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.34 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.34 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.34 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.34 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.37 | scanline | } |
| 07:25.46 | captain_proton | :) |
| 07:25.58 | scanline | figured a little class would make you happy ;) |
| 07:26.20 | scanline | was going to do a test run of this python embedding idea |
| 07:31.10 | scanline | haha |
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| 07:32.12 | scanline | hmmm |
| 07:32.15 | captain_proton | fark, my bag is at the EC |
| 07:32.26 | scanline | unhandled exceptions just terminate the program with "Aborted" |
| 07:33.06 | bomber_ | moin |
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| 07:35.34 | captain_proton | this guy just suggested we could use the heating elements to get rid of liquid waste and at the same time humidify the room |
| 07:36.02 | scanline | in a toaster oven? |
| 07:36.25 | captain_proton | in the toaster/fridge/coffee pot/water heater/drinks dispenser |
| 07:36.36 | sussudio | nothing like the smell or urine filling a room, eh? |
| 07:36.58 | scanline | I think you need a good name for this device... like refridgatoastypot 2000 |
| 07:37.15 | sussudio | smegpot 2003 |
| 07:56.28 | captain_proton | uggggg |
| 07:58.24 | scanline | it must have been the pseudojello |
| 08:03.09 | scanline | I know there's heap corruption going on... but my precious valgrind is useless with nvidia GL! |
| 08:18.25 | captain_proton | evil evil pseudojello |
| 08:18.44 | captain_proton | there's an environment variable to force software rendering |
| 08:18.47 | captain_proton | but i don't remember it :) |
| 08:18.54 | scanline | that's not the problem |
| 08:19.16 | scanline | linking with the nvidia drivers at all breaks valgrind, since their libGL.so has some opcodes valgrind doesn't support yet |
| 08:19.24 | captain_proton | ah |
| 08:19.57 | scanline | so I was planning on using LD_PRELOAD to force it to use the standard glx libGL, but somehow my libGLU went poof |
| 08:21.10 | captain_proton | poof! |
| 08:21.57 | scanline | did nvidia's glx come with GLU, or is that from mesa? |
| 08:22.34 | captain_proton | comes with GLU |
| 08:22.39 | scanline | k |
| 08:23.06 | captain_proton | yay for blakes7 :) |
| 08:25.04 | scanline | hmm... can I have a copy of your /usr/include/GL/glu.h? |
| 08:25.25 | scanline | I have no idea where mine went, and the nvidia glx package doesn't reinstall it |
| 08:27.31 | captain_proton | lemme run a qpkg on the file, make sure its not coming from elsewhere |
| 08:27.48 | captain_proton | bizzare, qpkg comes back with nothing |
| 08:28.19 | scanline | oops, need to create my dcc directory |
| 08:28.24 | scanline | try now |
| 08:29.23 | scanline | thanks |
| 08:30.09 | captain_proton | ooh, cally has a new haircut |
| 08:30.15 | captain_proton | much better looking |
| 08:32.06 | scanline | cool. A little LD_PRELOAD and I can valrgind my opengl driver |
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| 09:08.39 | captain_proton | it uses people...flexible, adaptable, and disposable |
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| 09:30.59 | scanline | -rwxr-xr-x 1 micah users 3836190 Nov 25 02:33 jetengine |
| 09:31.52 | scanline | hrm, stripped it's a bit smaller: |
| 09:32.01 | scanline | -rwxr-xr-x 1 micah users 1182968 Nov 25 02:35 jetengine |
| 09:32.57 | captain_proton | commit! |
| 09:33.07 | scanline | it doesn't work yet |
| 09:33.11 | captain_proton | heh |
| 09:33.20 | scanline | I almost have it running python code in a separate thread, but I've never done this before :) |
| 09:33.35 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 09:33.39 | captain_proton | technically i should sleep |
| 09:33.43 | scanline | that's statically linked with libpgserver and libpython, which is probably what we'll want to do |
| 09:33.52 | scanline | technically? |
| 09:34.25 | captain_proton | well i have a midterm but i don't want to sleep |
| 09:34.32 | scanline | ahh |
| 09:35.15 | scanline | I really don't have anything going on in school until after thanksgiving |
| 09:42.26 | captain_proton | grr, libpgtest still segfaults |
| 09:42.32 | scanline | hmmm... 'cout' isn't in the "iostream" header? |
| 09:42.36 | scanline | captain_proton: where? |
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| 09:58.32 | scanline | wb |
| 09:58.58 | captain_proton | and nvidia was doing so well |
| 09:59.02 | scanline | doh |
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| 10:01.25 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/bad.png |
| 10:01.36 | scanline | yeek |
| 10:01.54 | captain_proton | pretty scary, isn't it? |
| 10:02.06 | scanline | yeah... like it just decided to use the wrong glyphs for everything |
| 10:02.25 | scanline | you can try pointing it at different fonts.. not sure that will do anything |
| 10:02.35 | captain_proton | i tried that already |
| 10:02.36 | scanline | maybe your freetype library is haunted |
| 10:02.38 | scanline | ah |
| 10:03.10 | captain_proton | haunted? ooh, thats creepy |
| 10:04.07 | captain_proton | it was working correctly a day or so ago |
| 10:04.13 | captain_proton | with the cube |
| 10:04.21 | scanline | hrm |
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| 10:04.47 | scanline | fine here.. hmm |
| 10:05.08 | captain_proton | scanline: PicoGUIException should inherit from std::runtime_error |
| 10:05.24 | scanline | will get around to that... :) |
| 10:08.54 | captain_proton | well, i've gotta get up to take a test in less than 5 hours, best be off to sleep |
| 10:09.27 | scanline | g'night |
| 10:09.44 | scanline | might have something actually working when you get up :) |
| 10:10.21 | captain_proton | ooh |
| 10:10.38 | captain_proton | did you ever get any themey things done whilst playing with the gimp? |
| 10:10.44 | scanline | I have python code running in its own thread now, just got to fix up the error handling and make it do something useful |
| 10:10.53 | scanline | captain_proton: got some ideas, haven't actually written a theme yet |
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| 10:11.42 | ak|ra | morgen |
| 10:12.56 | scanline | hiya |
| 10:13.19 | captain_proton | tomorrow i'll write out the scene graph, we'll see whats possible |
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| 10:13.47 | scanline | cool. For testing I'll probably just make a single-quad object that can be controlled from python, and slap a picture of a ship on it :) |
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| 10:43.26 | bomber_ | moin |
| 10:43.35 | bomber_ | akira comps sind angekommen |
| 10:43.42 | bomber_ | :o)) |
| 10:44.05 | akira_ | bomber_: :) bitte |
| 10:44.07 | BZFlag | ~x de en akira comps sind angekommen |
| 10:44.10 | akira_ | gabs probleme? |
| 10:44.16 | akira_ | ist es das was ihr wollted? :) |
| 10:44.30 | bomber_ | weiss ich noch nicht |
| 10:44.33 | bomber_ | :o)) |
| 10:44.33 | akira_ | hehe |
| 10:44.44 | akira_ | also, der "dell" ist fuer pingu |
| 10:44.50 | bomber_ | ich habe das noch nicht gesehen |
| 10:44.52 | akira_ | der "compaq" fuer dich |
| 10:44.59 | bomber_ | :o))) |
| 10:45.01 | bomber_ | ok |
| 10:45.06 | bomber_ | Pinguin? |
| 10:48.58 | Pinguin | Greetings ... |
| 10:49.02 | akira_ | thx |
| 10:49.14 | akira_ | probiertse aus, gelaufen sind sie alle beide |
| 10:49.55 | Pinguin | bomber und ich wollen die dinger heute abend testen ... |
| 10:50.02 | akira_ | macht ma |
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| 12:00.44 | [dmp] | ibot ducati |
| 12:00.45 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:00.46 | bzbot | Snowball (R): -19 (31-50). lUrker (G): -22 (67-89). Abrams M1A1 Big Barrel (G): -6 (4-10). calico (G): 12 (64-52). zorg (R): -1 (33-34). MIRELLA (R): 8 (19-11). lolita (R): -3 (36-39). tai (G): -4 (1-5). @bomber (B): 0 (0-0). |
| 12:29.58 | [dmp] | ibot ducati |
| 12:29.59 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:29.59 | bzbot | beldin (G): -17 (6-23). Riseman (R): 10 (33-23). @dok (B): 0 (0-0). JM (G): -18 (18-36). zorg (R): -6 (79-85). intrix (R): 10 (30-20). lolita (R): 6 (19-13). tai (G): -21 (38-59). prodan (G): -2 (13-15). |
| 12:38.34 | bomber_ | ibot ducati? |
| 12:38.35 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:38.36 | bzbot | beldin (G): -20 (20-40). dok (G): -3 (2-5). fred (R): -2 (2-4). zorg (R): 1 (97-96). intrix (R): 8 (47-39). tai (G): -26 (50-76). prodan (G): 1 (31-30). |
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| 12:51.46 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/images/021124/img_0028.jpg |
| 12:51.50 | sussudio | it's moss! everyone hide! |
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| 13:42.44 | root | bzbot ducati? |
| 13:42.52 | root | bzbot: ducati? |
| 13:42.59 | root | !@#&^ |
| 13:43.05 | root | hello all |
| 13:44.42 | ak|ra | hy |
| 13:49.07 | rooter | slow today |
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| 14:59.44 | sussudio | must. not. put. entire. aol. netblock. on. ban. list. |
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| 15:50.41 | ak|ra | ibot ducati |
| 15:50.42 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:50.43 | bzbot | Lucidor (G): -6 (40-46). Dutchie (G): -10 (6-16). NavanMan (R): -16 (6-22). prodan (R): 25 (43-18). |
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| 16:12.05 | [TeA|]-[XP] | ibot ducati |
| 16:12.06 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:12.06 | bzbot | root (R): 10 (26-16). Nash (R): -14 (3-17). prodan (R): 22 (77-55). fred (G): -8 (26-34). Dutchie (G): -5 (3-8). elgen (G): -1 (37-38). akira (R): 4 (34-30). |
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| 16:14.42 | bomber_ | hi |
| 16:14.47 | bomber_ | Pinguin |
| 16:14.52 | bomber_ | da? |
| 16:18.23 | bomber_ | ibot ducati? |
| 16:18.23 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:18.24 | bzbot | [TeA|TrEE] (G): -6 (6-12). root (R): 9 (35-26). Nash (R): -20 (10-30). prodan (R): 25 (85-60). Dutchie (G): -4 (14-18). elgen (G): 0 (52-52). akira (R): 6 (44-38). |
| 16:20.21 | fiberchunks | ibot turkey? |
| 16:20.22 | | bzfquery turkey.moongroup.com 7500 |
| 16:20.23 | bzbot | Rogue: 3 players, score: 0 | Green: 3 players, score: -90 | |
| 16:20.37 | fiberchunks | ibot linuxorbit? |
| 16:20.37 | | fiberchunks: I give up, what is it? |
| 16:20.49 | fiberchunks | ibot www.linuxorbit.com? |
| 16:20.49 | | fiberchunks: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 16:20.55 | fiberchunks | hrm... |
| 16:21.42 | fiberchunks | ah, the query only works for .bzflag.org domain? |
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| 16:23.32 | Servor | Hi |
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| 16:25.14 | servor | hi |
| 16:25.27 | servor | i'd like to speak to a cop |
| 16:25.36 | servor | about servor.dyndns.org |
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| 16:27.29 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i needs a model of a spaceship |
| 16:27.55 | Patlabor221 | sir, yes sir! |
| 16:28.06 | sussudio | servor; it seems to be your server.... deal with it |
| 16:28.26 | servor | sussudio: yes it is |
| 16:29.12 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: Fighter or capital ship? |
| 16:29.48 | servor | sussudio: we've been assimilated to cheaters whereas the client we provide as a download allows only connections to servor.dyndns.org |
| 16:30.06 | servor | sussudio: so that nobody uses it to cheat on "normal" servers |
| 16:30.47 | sussudio | you are not allowed to modify the bzflag client without giving back the modifications. |
| 16:31.12 | servor | i know what the gpl says |
| 16:31.22 | servor | can i send it to you ? |
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| 16:31.57 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: fighter |
| 16:32.06 | Patlabor221 | actualy all he has to do is make the source avalalbe, I don't think he has to "give" it back. |
| 16:32.07 | servor | sussudio: all i did was modifying the start menu and some defines |
| 16:33.01 | servor | Patlabor221: i think that showing others how to cheat could be dangerous ? |
| 16:33.04 | captain_proton | servor: the issue is that you -have- to provide a source code download |
| 16:33.07 | Patlabor221 | yes it can |
| 16:33.11 | [TeA|]-[XP] | boaH !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:33.20 | Patlabor221 | but the GPL says you can't do bin only |
| 16:33.36 | servor | all right so |
| 16:33.42 | Patlabor221 | why make a cheat client in the first place? |
| 16:34.31 | scanline | morning Patlabor221 |
| 16:34.32 | Patlabor221 | if you want to protect it, change the net stuff so it's incompatable with the current servers. |
| 16:34.35 | servor | Patlabor221: just to play faster but it's only for fun |
| 16:34.35 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:34.45 | Patlabor221 | then change the server and client |
| 16:34.50 | Patlabor221 | make it incompatable |
| 16:35.04 | Patlabor221 | then you can release the sruoce, and it's harder to port back to regular BZ |
| 16:35.15 | Patlabor221 | show me |
| 16:35.24 | scanline | one sec, taking screenshot |
| 16:35.34 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: do you need a real model or a stand in? |
| 16:36.00 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: either will work but its best if its pretty |
| 16:36.06 | scanline | http://picogui.org/download/jetengine_test1.png |
| 16:36.11 | Patlabor221 | I just ahve some old stuff |
| 16:36.16 | Patlabor221 | or I could gank one from UT |
| 16:36.30 | scanline | it's not even a model, just a quad with a 2D fighter-like thing I drew a while back :) |
| 16:36.30 | captain_proton | scanline: =) |
| 16:36.31 | servor | actually, i'd like to have the advice of a cop (jzaun what do you think of it ?). Shall we stop providing the bin client or just going on with it and provide the source as well ? |
| 16:36.55 | bomber_ | bye |
| 16:37.00 | captain_proton | servor: what differences are present in your client? |
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| 16:37.23 | Patlabor221 | I say use that cap :) I can't do much better then that masterwork :) |
| 16:37.34 | Patlabor221 | opp gotta go talk to the bossman |
| 16:37.40 | Patlabor221 | bl |
| 16:37.44 | scanline | haha |
| 16:38.18 | servor | captain_proton: laser lifetime, shockwave radius, GM turn rate, tank speed, server limitation (to prevent pollution) |
| 16:38.31 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 16:39.10 | servor | captain_proton: i can send you the changed sources or a diff |
| 16:39.32 | captain_proton | servor: a diff against current cvs would be nice |
| 16:39.56 | servor | current CVS uses protocol 1.8, our client is based on 1.7e6 |
| 16:40.07 | captain_proton | as far as deciding whether to get rid of your binary or provide source, its up to you |
| 16:40.14 | captain_proton | servor: use the 'v1_7' branch |
| 16:40.23 | servor | captain_proton: all right |
| 16:40.26 | captain_proton | i'm guessing your binary is windows only? |
| 16:40.43 | servor | captain_proton: it's only been compiled on windows fornow |
| 16:41.43 | servor | captain_proton: one more time, all i have changed is some defines |
| 16:42.33 | servor | captain_proton: and the start menu |
| 16:44.17 | [dmp] | . wow.. that client is on some kind of medication :-) .. damn fast.. (too fast).. |
| 16:45.10 | captain_proton | scanline: you need to add data/* to CVS |
| 16:45.35 | scanline | it is in CVS |
| 16:45.38 | scanline | cvs up -Pd |
| 16:45.42 | servor | yep, it's just for having some instant fun |
| 16:45.51 | servor | sometimes |
| 16:46.00 | sussudio | servor: did you at least change the client version in some way? |
| 16:46.04 | scanline | you should have some .ths, .xwt, and .png files in data/src, all the stuff in data is generated from those |
| 16:46.15 | servor | sussudio: no |
| 16:46.22 | sussudio | right. |
| 16:46.47 | [dmp] | at least he'd lock the server-name, so you cannot change it. |
| 16:47.13 | sussudio | yeah..... 2 minutes and a hex editor can't 'fix' that..... |
| 16:48.06 | Patlabor221 | that's why I say change the net stuff, then at least it's harder to get it to go. |
| 16:48.32 | Patlabor221 | I don't think people need to be shown how to cheat, they can figure it out if they can code. |
| 16:49.23 | Patlabor221 | just don't make it easy for the casual user |
| 16:49.27 | scanline | captain_proton: have fun |
| 16:49.30 | [dmp] | good luck |
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| 17:05.42 | Cell | bah |
| 17:06.46 | scanline | w00t. I can set attributes in my C++ object from python now |
| 17:07.32 | Cell | would it be cool to load a bzflag file from a url, or unnecessary? |
| 17:08.59 | Cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:09.38 | sussudio | gpl free? |
| 17:11.38 | sussudio | "You can include the Magic Library in your own private or commerical applications free of charge. See the readme.html in the download for full license terms. |
| 17:11.39 | sussudio | " |
| 17:11.41 | sussudio | this is retarded |
| 17:11.47 | sussudio | just put the friggin licensing terms on the site |
| 17:11.56 | sussudio | i'd have to install the MSI file to view the license! |
| 17:11.59 | Cell | 78% downloaded so wait |
| 17:12.07 | Cell | no |
| 17:12.26 | Cell | yes |
| 17:13.38 | sussudio | from that wording it's more likely to be a bsd license, which makes it unusable for bzflag |
| 17:13.48 | scanline | what is it exactly? |
| 17:13.53 | Cell | There is no license fee or royalty fee to be paid at any time for using the Magic Library. You are however requested to acknowledge the use of the library and provide a link to our home page www.dotnetmagic.com from the About box of your application. |
| 17:13.57 | sussudio | *shrug* |
| 17:14.11 | Cell | cool |
| 17:14.12 | sussudio | something that wets cell's panties |
| 17:14.14 | scanline | Cell: that's not GPL compatible |
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| 17:14.23 | sussudio | where did i leave the cluebat....... |
| 17:14.30 | ak|ra | rre |
| 17:14.43 | Cell | bwho cares its free, whats the prob? |
| 17:14.55 | sussudio | cell: you're an idiot. |
| 17:14.55 | ak|ra | Cell: managed you recursion? |
| 17:15.15 | Cell | no, worked on smth else |
| 17:15.26 | Cell | will do it tomorrow, just bored me |
| 17:15.40 | ak|ra | hehe |
| 17:15.41 | ak|ra | ok |
| 17:15.49 | Cell | sussudio: why, explain? |
| 17:16.06 | sussudio | gpl is about freedom whereas the BSD license allows people to take that away, or at http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html |
| 17:16.34 | Cell | what do u mean by take that away? |
| 17:16.46 | sussudio | god you're clueless. |
| 17:17.10 | Cell | man im just uneducated, so help me |
| 17:17.20 | scanline | oh, and apostrophies |
| 17:18.24 | Cell | ? |
| 17:18.33 | Cell | u are on grass? |
| 17:18.50 | scanline | "u"? |
| 17:18.53 | scanline | bleh |
| 17:19.07 | ak|ra | cell .. es bringt nichts |
| 17:19.12 | Cell | k |
| 17:29.38 | captain_proton | .....wow, that was an easy exam |
| 17:30.05 | captain_proton | 15 minutes in i hit the end, then spend 10 minutes staring blanky at the problems in disbelief that such easy questions would be asked |
| 17:33.41 | servor | captain_proton: hi |
| 17:33.57 | servor | captain_proton: diff against cvs 1_7 was 5Mb long |
| 17:34.05 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 17:34.22 | servor | captain_proton: but i put a patch against 1.7e6 as it is on sourceforge on servor.dyndns.org |
| 17:34.30 | servor | captain_proton: is it ok ? |
| 17:34.54 | servor | captain_proton: if you think i must stop withthis client, just tell me |
| 17:35.11 | ak|ra | captain_proton: what test? |
| 17:35.45 | captain_proton | servor: i don't care if you distribute a client, but you -must- provide source |
| 17:35.52 | captain_proton | ak|ra: digital logic |
| 17:37.03 | servor | captain_proton: of course, as i said, i agree with the GPL |
| 17:37.24 | servor | captain_proton: but i didn't want everybody running a cheat client on other servers |
| 17:38.44 | servor | captain_proton: still friends ? |
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| 17:38.51 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 17:39.13 | scanline | wb captain_proton |
| 17:39.49 | servor | captain_proton: i didn't mean to offense the bz community. That's why i came to explain myself here... |
| 17:40.50 | captain_proton | servor: i'm not offended, i'm just keen to make sure that if you're going to distribute a client, you distribute the source along with |
| 17:41.19 | captain_proton | scanline: i'm sure this monster you've created looks beautiful but with my haunted freetype its scary |
| 17:41.32 | scanline | strange.... |
| 17:41.39 | scanline | what version of freetype? |
| 17:41.56 | captain_proton | 2.1.2 |
| 17:41.59 | scanline | I've only tested it against 2.1.3 recently |
| 17:42.00 | scanline | ah |
| 17:42.03 | captain_proton | lemme try reemerging it |
| 17:42.20 | scanline | Under gentoo, you can just rename the 2.1.2 ebuild to 2.1.3, emerge it, and it works |
| 17:43.01 | scanline | it gets the download filename from the ebuild filename, and the build procedure is the same.. so it just works :) |
| 17:43.09 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 17:43.12 | scanline | that's what I'm running right now |
| 17:43.42 | captain_proton | i'm thinking most of the scene nodes should inherit from ScriptableObject as well |
| 17:43.42 | scanline | hmm... can you make overloaded functions that differ only in return type? |
| 17:43.48 | captain_proton | no you can't |
| 17:43.54 | scanline | ok, didn't think so |
| 17:44.08 | scanline | I'm just making convenience functions for accessing attributes in ScriptableObject.. then it should be usable |
| 17:44.24 | scanline | I can do things like: |
| 17:44.25 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.26 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.26 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.31 | scanline | but for getAttr I'd need: |
| 17:44.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.35 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.41 | captain_proton | pass it a pointer |
| 17:44.51 | captain_proton | void getAddr(char *name, int &value) |
| 17:44.56 | captain_proton | err, reference, not pointer |
| 17:45.03 | ak|ra | :) |
| 17:45.18 | ak|ra | scanline: the returnvalueoverloading isnt defined in c++ |
| 17:45.30 | scanline | captain_proton: hmm... alrighty. That doesn't strike me as being any cleaner though :) |
| 17:45.55 | scanline | using a return value lets you just plop a getAttrFloat into some calculations without declaring a variable |
| 17:46.38 | ak|ra | righht but thats the price you have to pay for that _name_ |
| 17:46.54 | scanline | hehe |
| 17:46.56 | ak|ra | eg: opengl distinguish through the name .. .) |
| 17:47.00 | ak|ra | glGetFloatv |
| 17:47.03 | scanline | yep |
| 17:47.04 | ak|ra | glGetIntergerv .. |
| 17:47.06 | ak|ra | so .. |
| 17:47.10 | ak|ra | you cant have both |
| 17:47.26 | scanline | I usually program in C, so I'm used to having to deal with no overloading :) |
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| 17:48.11 | captain_proton | whee, updating freetype fixed it |
| 17:48.16 | scanline | spiffy |
| 17:49.11 | ak|ra | the mac is back |
| 17:49.27 | ak|ra | captain_proton: you didnt exorcised me .) |
| 17:50.24 | captain_proton | ak|ra: you weren't haunting my freetype |
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| 18:08.42 | Pinguin | ibot ducati? |
| 18:08.42 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:08.43 | bzbot | PiRj (R): -47 (93-140). MisterRipper (G): -1 (1-2). nope (R): -4 (32-36). sn0w_m0nkey (G): 4 (20-16). y o y o x (R): 30 (53-23). Boum! (G): -12 (41-53). Yeti (G): -11 (16-27). |
| 18:15.40 | scanline | hmm.. how do you call the parent class' destructor in a virtual destructor? |
| 18:16.09 | captain_proton | the parent class' destructor is called after the current destructor finishes |
| 18:16.15 | scanline | ok |
| 18:16.16 | scanline | thanks |
| 18:16.50 | captain_proton | just like the parent class' constructor is always called automatically |
| 18:17.10 | scanline | I had forgotten whether C++ did that |
| 18:20.30 | captain_proton | can EmbeddedPGserver run off of a previously created gl context? |
| 18:20.49 | scanline | yes. Just use the 'glcontext' driver instead of 'sdlgl' |
| 18:21.47 | scanline | it will still need to know what video mode it's in, you can pass that via the 'mode' or 'width' and 'height' config variables, or set it later |
| 18:26.54 | Patlabor221 | ok cap, got you a ship just need to get the texture for it. |
| 18:27.18 | servor | c ya guys |
| 18:30.18 | scanline | yay, the python and C++ bits are talking correctly |
| 18:30.56 | scanline | I just created a c++ object that defines the sky and grass, and I have a loop written in python that's incrementing its position |
| 18:31.45 | captain_proton | ooooh |
| 18:32.10 | scanline | of course the python code shouldn't be setting position, it should be setting velocity |
| 18:34.46 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 18:35.09 | captain_proton | perhaps i should just write a stand-in rendering engine for tomorrow |
| 18:35.44 | scanline | standing in for what? |
| 18:35.44 | captain_proton | because this is going nowhere fast |
| 18:35.57 | captain_proton | standing in for the eventual scene-graph |
| 18:36.01 | scanline | ah |
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| 18:37.20 | captain_proton | something that draws the ground, a skybox w/ clouds, and the ship model should suffice |
| 18:38.20 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: ftp://ftp.gibbscam.com/pub/outgoing/vizkit/shot.png |
| 18:38.24 | Patlabor221 | will that work for you? |
| 18:38.53 | scanline | Is that an R2-D2 texture? :) |
| 18:39.04 | scanline | in the 'material' sphere |
| 18:39.26 | Patlabor221 | no that's the same texture |
| 18:40.23 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i suppose, would be better with a brighter texture but it'll do just fine for tomorrow's operation |
| 18:40.59 | Patlabor221 | I just lightend the texture |
| 18:41.09 | Patlabor221 | same folder JFF.zip |
| 18:41.16 | scanline | w00t! |
| 18:41.21 | scanline | GUI-controlled-ship-velocity |
| 18:41.41 | Patlabor221 | what are you doing with it tomorow? |
| 18:41.53 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.53 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.53 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.07 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: crashing the "CU game development club" meeting to try to steal some artists and possibly another developer |
| 18:43.29 | scanline | whee, this is fun |
| 18:43.59 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 18:44.48 | scanline | just added this to the XWT: |
| 18:44.52 | scanline | <box side="left"> |
| 18:44.52 | scanline | <label>Velocity</label> |
| 18:44.52 | scanline | <scroll name="VelocitySlider"/> |
| 18:44.52 | scanline | </box> |
| 18:44.55 | Patlabor221 | well I would have gone with scanlines, ship |
| 18:44.57 | scanline | then loaded it: |
| 18:44.58 | Patlabor221 | it had clean lines |
| 18:45.01 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.01 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.01 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:45.06 | scanline | then that event handler above :) |
| 18:45.17 | scanline | Patlabor221: that wasn't even a model, just a texture |
| 18:45.41 | Patlabor221 | it was a model |
| 18:45.44 | Patlabor221 | of a plne |
| 18:45.46 | Patlabor221 | plane |
| 18:45.54 | Patlabor221 | very eficent tri usage :) |
| 18:45.57 | captain_proton | scanline: teehee, thats SOOO COOL |
| 18:46.00 | scanline | :) |
| 18:46.22 | captain_proton | slider is upside-down though |
| 18:46.37 | scanline | replace widget.value with 100-widget.value :) |
| 18:47.28 | Patlabor221 | I thought it was reversigate |
| 18:47.36 | scanline | oh, that too |
| 18:49.17 | captain_proton | be back in 10 minutes or an hour 45 |
| 18:49.31 | scanline | :) |
| 18:50.03 | snyke | hmm |
| 18:50.16 | snyke | who of you is responsible for the bzflag.org homepage? |
| 18:50.50 | snyke | huh? |
| 18:51.15 | Chestal | not sure if we can blame a single person :-) |
| 18:51.23 | Chestal | maybe captain proton |
| 18:51.24 | snyke | hmm |
| 18:51.38 | snyke | hum. |
| 18:51.41 | snyke | damn. |
| 18:51.44 | snyke | and he is away. |
| 18:51.54 | snyke | I need one to talk about the copyright of your site |
| 18:52.05 | Chestal | copyright? |
| 18:52.31 | snyke | yeah |
| 18:53.23 | Chestal | the web page is the product of several people just as the game itself |
| 18:54.48 | Patlabor221 | I made the logo at the top :) |
| 18:55.18 | BZFlag | snyke: what's up? |
| 18:55.48 | snyke | ah |
| 18:55.50 | snyke | okay |
| 18:56.02 | snyke | BZFlag: can I query you ? |
| 18:57.45 | BZFlag | query away. |
| 18:57.51 | Patlabor221 | heck the copyright dosn't even say who |
| 18:57.59 | snyke | okay |
| 19:02.15 | Patlabor221 | scanline: how do I get a webcam to work in linux? |
| 19:02.41 | scanline | usually you install a kernel module for the camera, then you can use it through VideoForLinux |
| 19:03.15 | Patlabor221 | :( kernel = scarry to me |
| 19:03.26 | scanline | see if you can find some documentation about your specific camera |
| 19:03.55 | snyke | hm |
| 19:04.51 | Patlabor221 | that would mean I would have to figure out what it is :) |
| 19:05.01 | scanline | hehe |
| 19:05.18 | snyke | bzfquerylong 217.160.141.22 5155 |
| 19:05.18 | bzbot | snyke (G): -4 (23-27). Wilinckx (G): 10 (31-21). Otto (P): -3 (1-4). [TLZ] BeZee (r): 58 (78-20). EL TIGRE DE SANTA JULIA (P): -2 (1-3). Santo (R): -17 (20-37). GarpWader (R): 4 (33-29). Zav (B): 13 (33-20). haligaliii (B): -28 (9-37). pyrah_81 (R): -8 (18-26). NilFilter (r): -11 (8-19). MadCamel (B): -1 (26-27). Ph5.5 [HHH] (G): -13 (20-33). Dr-doed (r): 1 (2-1). |
| 19:05.23 | snyke | =) |
| 19:08.05 | Patlabor221 | scanline: what do you do if a project dosn't have a configure file? |
| 19:08.16 | scanline | look at the README |
| 19:10.13 | Patlabor221 | hmms he says there is nothing usefull in there |
| 19:10.24 | snyke | hell |
| 19:10.34 | *** join/#bzflag dinah (~fowndling@137.36.253.100) |
| 19:10.39 | snyke | there are getting more and more people on the server hmm. the lag is still okay |
| 19:11.14 | Patlabor221 | what is the server running on? |
| 19:12.27 | Patlabor221 | dinah: so there is nothing in the readme on how to set it up? |
| 19:12.42 | dinah | not a thing |
| 19:12.43 | snyke | Patlabor221: linuks? :) |
| 19:12.56 | Patlabor221 | I mean connection wise? |
| 19:13.01 | snyke | hmm |
| 19:13.02 | snyke | 100mbit |
| 19:13.08 | snyke | no i'm not lame =) |
| 19:13.14 | Patlabor221 | to the net? |
| 19:13.22 | snyke | the server has 100mbit and the internet connection has about more gigabyte/s |
| 19:13.33 | snyke | yes it's a VERY huge connection |
| 19:13.38 | snyke | several connections |
| 19:13.38 | Patlabor221 | colo? |
| 19:14.17 | BZFlag | Patlabor221: what kind of webcam? I used the axis 2100 sometimes, its a standalone web camera with an embedded linux system. |
| 19:14.29 | snyke | yeah axis came rule |
| 19:14.35 | snyke | but they are so expensive =( |
| 19:15.09 | BZFlag | true. I also use the old color quickcams from time to time ;-) |
| 19:15.11 | Patlabor221 | I have this cheap littke $17 USB one. I don't even know what it is. |
| 19:15.29 | Patlabor221 | I'll have to look at the windows drivers and see what it is. |
| 19:15.45 | snyke | heh |
| 19:16.45 | BZFlag | Patlabor221: plug it in and see what hotplug says about it. ;-) |
| 19:16.59 | Chestal | hmmph, everyone plays on those 10 shot servers *yawn* |
| 19:17.02 | Patlabor221 | it didn't say anything |
| 19:17.30 | Patlabor221 | couldn't even get the system to see it |
| 19:17.40 | Patlabor221 | I will futz with it more when I get home |
| 19:17.56 | snyke | Chestal: you mean our happypenguin.org TEST ? |
| 19:17.57 | snyke | :)) |
| 19:18.16 | Chestal | snyke: 3 out of the top 4 servers right now have 10 shots |
| 19:18.18 | Patlabor221 | I think he means all 10 shot servers |
| 19:18.30 | Chestal | the other has 4 shots, which is almsot bearable |
| 19:18.31 | Patlabor221 | munchkin servers :) |
| 19:18.33 | snyke | hm, we are quite crowded right now |
| 19:18.40 | snyke | second |
| 19:18.53 | BZFlag | ~bzflist |
| 19:19.33 | snyke | the first is ours |
| 19:19.43 | BZFlag | snyke: no dns name? --publicaddr my.server.example.com should get ut to show up with a dns name. |
| 19:19.52 | snyke | that IP hasn't one |
| 19:19.56 | Patlabor221 | yes it does |
| 19:20.01 | snyke | does? |
| 19:20.01 | snyke | hmm |
| 19:20.02 | snyke | second |
| 19:20.10 | Patlabor221 | petersdtp.net |
| 19:20.13 | snyke | ah |
| 19:20.25 | snyke | don't know if nilfilter wants to have that in public server list =) |
| 19:20.29 | BZFlag | er ... -publicaddr foo.example.com[:port] |
| 19:20.34 | Patlabor221 | so that's your hacked, closed source server? |
| 19:20.56 | snyke | what? |
| 19:21.03 | snyke | no it's now hacked. |
| 19:21.13 | snyke | s/now/not |
| 19:21.18 | Patlabor221 | isn't that the super fast one? |
| 19:21.22 | Patlabor221 | or am I confulsed? |
| 19:21.24 | BZFlag | woody.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE ? |
| 19:21.42 | snyke | but why hacked? |
| 19:21.49 | Patlabor221 | you changed it didn't you? |
| 19:21.58 | snyke | what did I change? |
| 19:22.03 | BZFlag | Patlabor221: nope |
| 19:22.10 | Patlabor221 | perhaps I have you confused with someone else then |
| 19:22.18 | snyke | ? |
| 19:22.28 | snyke | kay |
| 19:22.33 | Wilinckx | Patlabor221: with the "100 shots" ? |
| 19:22.35 | Patlabor221 | someone here said they made changes to a client that would only go to one server |
| 19:22.43 | Patlabor221 | and it was super fast |
| 19:23.01 | snyke | no I didn't have hade any changes to anything expect to bzfs-webmin :) |
| 19:23.03 | Chestal | BZFlag: with opacity=1.0 I do not get the "compass ticks", with differernt opacity I get them, but they're closer to each other than in e4 |
| 19:23.21 | Patlabor221 | then I do have you confused with someone else, sorry bout that. |
| 19:23.28 | snyke | np |
| 19:23.29 | Chestal | BZFlag: IMHO it would be better to calculate the size of the targetting boxes on horizontal resolution only |
| 19:24.42 | BZFlag | Chestal: agreed. that needs a bit of work. they don't show up at low resolution and on your setup with opacity=1.0 you qualify as low resolution. |
| 19:25.00 | BZFlag | They need to scale better and show up more. |
| 19:25.37 | Chestal | I don't know how it look sin e6, but i like the bigger spaces bewtwwen them in e4 better |
| 19:25.42 | Chestal | looks very crowded now |
| 19:25.44 | BZFlag | the hor ticks should be calculated based on horz res and the vertical based on vertical. ;-) |
| 19:26.23 | Chestal | but the target boxes itself should probably just based on horizontal res? |
| 19:26.38 | Chestal | right now there's a big difference between opacity =/< 0 |
| 19:26.39 | BZFlag | snyke: I could setup a bzflag.org name. ie: happypenguin.bzflag.org => woody.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE |
| 19:27.08 | Chestal | with opacity=1.0 I'd liek to have a size similar to e4, righ tnow it's much smaller, with opacity<0 it's much bigger |
| 19:27.42 | Chestal | hmm, this Status thign has never been used? |
| 19:28.04 | Chestal | I gues sit reefers to the area right above the mesage area/radar |
| 19:29.31 | BZFlag | hmm. ticks never showup with opacity=1.0 |
| 19:29.42 | snyke | BZFlag: second |
| 19:30.22 | *** part/#bzflag dinah (~fowndling@137.36.253.100) |
| 19:30.39 | BZFlag | I can add a dns entry so that you can use -publicaddr happypenguin.bzflag.org:5155 |
| 19:34.50 | BZFlag | ~nslookup happypenguin.bzflag.org |
| 19:48.03 | Chestal | bzflag: I'm about to commit a small message area render optimization |
| 19:49.51 | BZFlag | ~bzflist |
| 19:50.44 | BZFlag | Chestal: commit away. what's it do? |
| 19:52.05 | Chestal | BZFlag: only redraws mesage area when soemthign changes or when opacity is <1.0 |
| 19:52.22 | Chestal | this optimization has been in old versions, had togo away for the translucency |
| 19:52.36 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|]-[XP] (~Nicholas@pD9E96A8D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:53.32 | BZFlag | ok, cool. |
| 19:53.49 | *** join/#bzflag chsh[] (~chsh@207.245.233.114) |
| 19:57.09 | chsh[] | still all doug's fault eh? |
| 20:05.15 | BZFlag | Chestal: changed redout spacing. Try now. |
| 20:10.58 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|]-[XP] (~Nicholas@pD9E96A8D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:11.53 | BZFlag | Chestal: fixed the markers for opacity=1.0, try that as well. ;-) |
| 20:22.23 | captain_proton | BZFlag: what did snyke want re: web page? |
| 20:23.09 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (alton@p50802E08.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:23.27 | snyke | hm? |
| 20:23.44 | captain_proton | snyke: you had a query regarding the bzflag web page? |
| 20:23.58 | snyke | yes |
| 20:24.10 | BZFlag | captain_proton: wanted to use the html layout code for a bzfs control page. |
| 20:38.16 | Chestal | bzflag: I wonder if it wouldn't look better if there was a little blank space around the radar |
| 20:41.06 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient217-162-21-227.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:47.07 | *** join/#bzflag Terminator (~Terminato@public1-seve4-6-cust16.walt.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 20:47.14 | Terminator | hi all |
| 20:47.22 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 20:47.22 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:47.38 | Terminator | ugh |
| 20:47.48 | Terminator | ibot ducati ffa |
| 20:47.48 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 20:47.49 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 20:47.59 | Terminator | ibot ducati |
| 20:47.59 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:48.00 | Patlabor221 | cap you get that model? |
| 20:48.00 | bzbot | ryfly (R): -1 (7-8). greentank (G): -2 (4-6). xabbu (R): 0 (63-63). [TLZ] FantaZee (G): 2 (8-6). @root (B): 0 (0-0). AGP (R): 45 (113-68). Ginku (G): -12 (22-34). [TLZ] BeZee (R): -1 (3-4). aim (G): 4 (20-16). @freelancer (B): 0 (0-0). @Patt (G): 0 (0-0). |
| 20:48.08 | Terminator | better |
| 20:48.46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: no, in your ftp? |
| 20:48.52 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:48.54 | Patlabor221 | jff.zip |
| 20:49.24 | Patlabor221 | it's an obj file |
| 20:49.42 | Patlabor221 | tho I could just make it an AMF for you |
| 20:49.50 | captain_proton | AMF? |
| 20:50.05 | Patlabor221 | the binary format that the model class reads |
| 20:51.29 | Patlabor221 | there, there's a JFF.a3d in the folder too |
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| 20:59.55 | *** join/#bzflag jzaun (~jzaun@jzaun.static.telerama.com) |
| 21:19.30 | *** join/#bzflag ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 21:19.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ChanServ] by saberhagen.freenode.net |
| 21:22.01 | captain_proton | heh |
| 21:22.55 | Patlabor221 | it was odd, I doidn't have a problem with Halo |
| 21:22.59 | Patlabor221 | but with metroid |
| 21:23.09 | Patlabor221 | everyone in the room got sick |
| 21:23.19 | captain_proton | could be an fov thing |
| 21:24.38 | Patlabor221 | paybe |
| 21:24.40 | Patlabor221 | maybe |
| 21:24.48 | Patlabor221 | did seem a bit fisheye |
| 21:25.04 | Patlabor221 | PSO played well on the screen tho :) |
| 21:26.36 | jzaun | How would BZF look? |
| 21:26.44 | Terminator | pat can u help me make a desision? |
| 21:27.25 | Terminator | hmm |
| 21:27.41 | Terminator | ibot seen Patlabor221 |
| 21:27.43 | | patlabor221 is currently on #bzflag (5h 33s). Has said a total of 79 messages. Is idling for 2m 39s |
| 21:27.55 | Terminator | ugh |
| 21:28.15 | Terminator | well neone else here thats a gamer |
| 21:28.19 | jzaun | Terminator: What you got to deside on? |
| 21:28.40 | Terminator | xbox, ps2 or game cube |
| 21:28.42 | Patlabor221 | I am here |
| 21:28.44 | Terminator | or none |
| 21:28.51 | Terminator | k |
| 21:28.57 | jzaun | Terminator: Linux in a box :-) |
| 21:29.08 | jzaun | with a bunch of emulators |
| 21:29.19 | Patlabor221 | I have a cube and a x-box now |
| 21:29.25 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: WEAK! |
| 21:29.26 | Patlabor221 | I am thinking about doing that jzaun |
| 21:29.32 | Terminator | whats ur fav |
| 21:29.40 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: ? |
| 21:29.45 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: getting a cube |
| 21:29.54 | Patlabor221 | Terminator: depends one game |
| 21:29.58 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: Metroid! |
| 21:30.14 | Terminator | Patlabor221: is it halo by any chance? |
| 21:30.16 | jzaun | Patlabor221: 1 box, NES, SNES, SEGA, GB, etc. :-) nice choice for the price |
| 21:30.19 | Patlabor221 | Terminator: Halo is one of the best games ever |
| 21:30.21 | Terminator | or super monkey balls |
| 21:30.27 | Terminator | k |
| 21:30.33 | snyke | well |
| 21:30.36 | Terminator | i like super monkey balls |
| 21:30.39 | Terminator | :-) |
| 21:30.41 | Patlabor221 | I just got the cube saturday |
| 21:30.45 | Terminator | and halo |
| 21:30.48 | Terminator | :-) |
| 21:30.50 | Terminator | cool |
| 21:30.59 | Terminator | do u have super monkey balls? |
| 21:31.01 | Patlabor221 | and only have metroid, PSO, and super smach bro's |
| 21:31.03 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 21:31.04 | jzaun | Patlabor221: get a blue screen yet? |
| 21:31.09 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 21:31.11 | Terminator | it sounds rubbish but is brilliant |
| 21:31.12 | Patlabor221 | on what? |
| 21:31.19 | jzaun | your XBOX |
| 21:31.21 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 21:31.30 | snyke | bzfquerylong happypenguin.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 21:31.31 | bzbot | George Timely (r): 7 (20-13). Bomber (R): -16 (38-54). airborne (P): 63 (101-38). Santo (R): -11 (4-15). nick (r): -12 (1-13). TheDude (G): 0 (5-5). |
| 21:31.33 | Patlabor221 | it has worked perfectly all year |
| 21:31.35 | snyke | yeehaw works |
| 21:31.50 | Terminator | ibot Patlabor221 |
| 21:31.50 | | methinks patlabor221 is http://www.artemisgames.com/webcam.html |
| 21:31.58 | jzaun | I've seen it twice... not really blue, but same info is displayed... have to turn it off and back on |
| 21:31.59 | Patlabor221 | that I am |
| 21:32.16 | Patlabor221 | odd, mine works fine. were those perhaps moded systems? |
| 21:32.22 | Terminator | thats useless |
| 21:32.26 | Terminator | the link |
| 21:32.28 | jzaun | nope, first gen off the shelf |
| 21:32.30 | Terminator | its weird |
| 21:32.36 | Terminator | with weird music |
| 21:32.39 | Patlabor221 | that's what mine is |
| 21:32.51 | Patlabor221 | that's not wierd music |
| 21:32.57 | Terminator | lol |
| 21:33.04 | Terminator | it is |
| 21:33.19 | Patlabor221 | don't even know what's its from do you? |
| 21:33.21 | Terminator | ibot jzaun |
| 21:33.22 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 21:33.23 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 21:33.24 | Terminator | nnope |
| 21:33.40 | Patlabor221 | halo |
| 21:33.50 | Terminator | oh yeah i remeber |
| 21:33.55 | Terminator | on the main menu |
| 21:34.01 | Patlabor221 | thos I realy am waiting for soul-calaber 2 |
| 21:34.02 | Terminator | i think? |
| 21:34.07 | Terminator | k |
| 21:34.22 | Terminator | ibot dance |
| 21:34.23 | | ACTION does a disco dance. |
| 21:34.27 | Terminator | ibot sing |
| 21:34.28 | | "Night fever, night fever. You know how to do it!" |
| 21:34.37 | Terminator | ibot dumb |
| 21:34.38 | | dumb? You must be a madman. |
| 21:34.49 | Terminator | ibot dumb |
| 21:34.50 | | I know you are, but what am I? |
| 21:35.01 | Terminator | i put those in |
| 21:35.11 | Terminator | ibot dumb |
| 21:35.11 | | dumb? You must be a madman. |
| 21:35.19 | Terminator | hmm there is one more |
| 21:35.23 | Terminator | ibot dumb |
| 21:35.24 | | dumb? You must be a madman. |
| 21:35.28 | Terminator | ibot dumb |
| 21:35.28 | | I know you are, but what am I? |
| 21:35.40 | Patlabor221 | I don't know if I would like the monkey ball one, I may be too old for it. |
| 21:35.49 | Terminator | nah |
| 21:35.54 | Terminator | my uncle loves it |
| 21:36.00 | Terminator | he is 30 |
| 21:36.06 | Terminator | and he has a gamecube |
| 21:36.11 | Patlabor221 | well perhaps I shall rent it |
| 21:36.16 | Patlabor221 | I am 30 and I have a game cube |
| 21:36.25 | Terminator | k cool |
| 21:36.25 | Patlabor221 | maybe I'm your uncle :) |
| 21:36.29 | Terminator | lol |
| 21:36.47 | Terminator | ur name would have to be richard |
| 21:36.47 | Patlabor221 | Jet set radio future was kinda good |
| 21:36.53 | Terminator | which it ain't |
| 21:36.55 | Patlabor221 | I hear splinter sell is the shizint. |
| 21:37.02 | Terminator | huh? |
| 21:37.06 | Patlabor221 | cell not sell |
| 21:37.10 | Patlabor221 | "splinter Cell" |
| 21:37.11 | Patlabor221 | game |
| 21:37.27 | Terminator | k |
| 21:37.28 | Patlabor221 | for the box |
| 21:37.42 | Terminator | what does shizint mean |
| 21:38.18 | Terminator | is it good or bad? |
| 21:39.36 | Patlabor221 | a nice way of shaing "shit" |
| 21:39.44 | Patlabor221 | in the good way |
| 21:39.51 | Terminator | k |
| 21:41.03 | *** join/#bzflag CLQ (CLQ@ti300710a065-0098.dialup.online.no) |
| 21:41.18 | Terminator | no |
| 21:41.38 | *** part/#bzflag Terminator (~Terminato@public1-seve4-6-cust16.walt.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 21:41.46 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 21:42.00 | CLQ | Is there a way to save htmlcode to a file and link to it in a page? |
| 21:42.22 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure there is, I see people do it |
| 21:42.31 | Patlabor221 | usualy it's a link to a TXT file |
| 21:44.32 | jzaun | can anyone tryout http://stats.bzflag.org/test/ and tell me if the two games work for them? |
| 21:45.27 | Patlabor221 | they show up in scrolly windowsa |
| 21:45.30 | Patlabor221 | but they work |
| 21:46.01 | Patlabor221 | it's like there frames are too small |
| 21:46.19 | jzaun | Patlabor221: how much bigger should the windows be? |
| 21:46.39 | jzaun | Patlabor221: and is everything draggable (icons/windows)? |
| 21:47.18 | Patlabor221 | the icons are, but the windows are not |
| 21:47.40 | Patlabor221 | and I'd say they need to be about 25 pixels larger in each axis |
| 21:48.08 | jzaun | Patlabor221: windows arn't even by the title bar? |
| 21:48.20 | Patlabor221 | I see no tilte bar on them |
| 21:48.28 | Patlabor221 | it's all back, around them |
| 21:49.01 | jzaun | Patlabor221: oh... well, thats not right :-( |
| 21:49.11 | jzaun | what browser you useing? |
| 21:49.16 | jzaun | I'll have to fix it up |
| 21:49.16 | Patlabor221 | IE6 |
| 21:49.51 | Patlabor221 | undr XP |
| 21:50.41 | jzaun | ok, thanks for the info |
| 21:51.22 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 21:54.19 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: is there a rule that says that teleporters need to be defined before links that use them? |
| 21:55.10 | captain_proton | scanline: shouldn't be |
| 21:55.22 | captain_proton | the world doesn't get used until its fully downloaded |
| 21:55.44 | Patlabor221 | so there isn't |
| 21:55.45 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm |
| 21:55.50 | scanline | eh? |
| 21:56.11 | Patlabor221 | then I can't calcualte my links untill the load is complete. |
| 21:58.10 | *** join/#bzflag paul (~paul@hibernia.clubi.ie) |
| 21:59.42 | Chestal | bzflag: alive? |
| 22:05.59 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: did I ever give you the psd file with all those bzflag site logos in it? |
| 22:36.37 | *** join/#bzflag jpablo (~jpablo@dsl-200-67-6-1.prodigy.net.mx) |
| 22:45.49 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient217-162-21-227.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:54.48 | Chestal | someone alive? |
| 23:20.38 | snyke | me |
| 23:20.43 | snyke | playing bzflag |
| 23:20.53 | snyke | bzfquerylong happypenguin.bzflag.org 5155 |
| 23:20.54 | bzbot | Kow (B): -1 (17-18). Santo (P): -4 (25-29). NilFilter (r): 44 (148-104). snyke (P): 14 (98-84). lukazzo (P): -43 (24-67). Cpt. Kickass (B): 9 (47-38). |
| 23:20.58 | snyke | yes.. therr |
| 23:21.01 | snyke | there |
| 23:22.16 | Chestal | too late :-) |
| 23:22.28 | Chestal | good night |
| 23:30.59 | snyke | nit |
| 23:56.34 | snyke | hey |
| 23:56.34 | snyke | your homepage is broken |
| 23:56.34 | snyke | MySQL Server crashed or sth. |
