| 00:37.25 | *** join/#bzflag tvon (~tvon@md-frdrck-cmts2a-a-53.shphwv.adelphia.net) |
| 00:37.34 | tvon | What is the tool of choice for messign with worlds? |
| 00:37.38 | tvon | text editor? |
| 00:37.44 | tvon | (in *nix) |
| 00:38.13 | Chestal | there is at least one bezit, I never tried them |
| 00:38.30 | tvon | k |
| 00:38.45 | Chestal | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ I assume |
| 00:39.27 | tvon | ah |
| 00:39.28 | tvon | thanks |
| 00:40.26 | Patlabor221 | there is also the java one |
| 00:42.18 | tvon | link handy? |
| 00:42.32 | tvon | nm |
| 00:42.37 | Patlabor221 | umm there is one on my site, http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit |
| 00:42.44 | tvon | ah, thanks |
| 00:42.44 | Patlabor221 | the one that says grapes of wrath |
| 00:42.52 | Patlabor221 | but when I looked at it, it sucked |
| 00:43.11 | tvon | pretty site |
| 00:43.15 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 00:43.33 | tvon | ooh, editor looks nice |
| 00:43.42 | Patlabor221 | that's the windows one tho |
| 00:43.53 | Patlabor221 | the linux one is similar to mine |
| 00:44.15 | tvon | ah |
| 00:49.23 | Patlabor221 | dammnit this was suposed to be a tank.. http://www.bakadigital.com/screamers/damnit.png |
| 00:49.52 | tvon | looks like a land speeder |
| 00:49.53 | scanline | it's so.. flat! |
| 00:50.04 | Patlabor221 | shyddap |
| 00:50.09 | tvon | hehe |
| 00:50.19 | scanline | you could use it to scrape cheese off the floor |
| 00:50.23 | Patlabor221 | gime a spline modeler and I'll make you blobs with wings |
| 00:50.30 | scanline | haha |
| 00:50.32 | scanline | blender? |
| 00:50.45 | Patlabor221 | I LOATH blenders interface |
| 00:50.59 | scanline | heh |
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| 00:51.51 | Patlabor221 | tho If you can take an iges or parasolid file I can use our cad modeler |
| 00:52.08 | Patlabor221 | I don't use it for this stuff cus our teselator blows goats |
| 00:52.11 | scanline | well so far we can't take any file |
| 00:52.24 | scanline | =) |
| 00:53.03 | Patlabor221 | we just use parasolid's internal teselator |
| 00:55.51 | Patlabor221 | and it's suposed to be flat, it's based on a CEGA ship, and they have very boring designers |
| 00:59.12 | scanline | what's it for? |
| 01:00.53 | Patlabor221 | well it realy was suposed to be a hover tank |
| 01:02.47 | Patlabor221 | here how's this for ya, http://www.bakadigital.com/wingedblob.png |
| 01:02.47 | scanline | it's... blobby :P |
| 01:02.47 | Patlabor221 | assload of tris too |
| 01:02.48 | scanline | how many? |
| 01:02.48 | Patlabor221 | 5112 |
| 01:02.48 | Patlabor221 | tris |
| 01:03.08 | scanline | it's still not even completely smooth on the edges |
| 01:03.10 | scanline | need more |
| 01:03.21 | Patlabor221 | ohh that's cus how I did it |
| 01:03.27 | Patlabor221 | it's got busted endges now |
| 01:03.39 | scanline | need view-dependent tesselation :) |
| 01:03.54 | Patlabor221 | I just used a "metaform" plugin for lightwave |
| 01:03.55 | Patlabor221 | it's crap |
| 01:04.14 | Patlabor221 | not a real surface |
| 01:04.53 | Patlabor221 | I just kept doing subdivisions with a bulge till it looked interesting |
| 01:05.44 | Patlabor221 | looks realy smooth at about 40k quads |
| 01:26.07 | sussudio | bah. bzflag 1.7g0 still does the keyboard locking up crap under linux |
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| 01:53.47 | bzdoug | 'lo MrApathyCream |
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| 02:47.33 | MrApathyCream | yo |
| 03:02.10 | sussudio | ~yo |
| 03:02.12 | | Yo wazzaaaap my brotha?! |
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| 03:24.32 | jzaun | How can I referance the LocalPlayer from within ConrtolPanel.cxx? I would like to get some information to display |
| 03:26.52 | MrApathyCream | LocalPlayer::getMyTank() |
| 03:29.26 | captain_proton | i got cookies |
| 03:32.28 | scanline | captain_proton: http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/quadtree-outtake1.avi |
| 03:32.45 | scanline | should submit that to "america's funniest sphere tesselations" |
| 03:33.28 | MrApathyCream | i forget, who's the host of that? |
| 03:33.44 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: huh? |
| 03:33.46 | captain_proton | oh the show? |
| 03:33.51 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 03:34.23 | captain_proton | wow, my system crawls when building PythonWrapper |
| 03:34.50 | scanline | there are a bunch of new command line options now |
| 03:35.04 | captain_proton | oh? |
| 03:35.35 | scanline | ./jetstream --help |
| 03:35.39 | *** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (~42e70d92@chat.ircnet.org) |
| 03:35.53 | [STC]_creeperz | help people... How do I figure out my IP address? |
| 03:36.02 | [STC]_creeperz | ...and the port |
| 03:36.12 | scanline | chat.ircnet.org :) |
| 03:36.21 | [STC]_creeperz | go there? |
| 03:37.32 | captain_proton | wow scanline, it looks like a real application now |
| 03:37.46 | [STC]_creeperz | scanline: please help... anyone |
| 03:37.49 | scanline | captain_proton: laodamas has tickets to see LOTR at the Promenade at midnight.. says there should be plenty of seats left |
| 03:37.52 | [STC]_creeperz | what application? |
| 03:38.00 | scanline | [STC]_creeperz: 'ifconfig -a' |
| 03:38.04 | captain_proton | scanline: promenade? 24? |
| 03:38.16 | scanline | captain_proton: dunno |
| 03:38.17 | [STC]_creeperz | ifconfig -a? |
| 03:38.19 | MrApathyCream | or ipconfig on windoz |
| 03:38.32 | scanline | captain_proton: I would tell you to ask him but he's gone :) |
| 03:38.34 | [STC]_creeperz | I have windows |
| 03:38.41 | MrApathyCream | ipconfig in a cmd window |
| 03:38.55 | [STC]_creeperz | so type ipconfig for my IP? |
| 03:39.07 | jzaun | or winipcfg if in a 9X windows |
| 03:39.08 | MrApathyCream | yup, funny how they named it like that |
| 03:39.20 | [STC]_creeperz | what about the port? |
| 03:39.25 | MrApathyCream | the port for what? |
| 03:39.28 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: what you looking to get for christmas |
| 03:39.30 | captain_proton | ? |
| 03:39.35 | MrApathyCream | you got 65535 of them |
| 03:39.38 | scanline | your computer doesn't have a port, servers running on them do |
| 03:39.42 | scanline | s/them/it/ |
| 03:39.44 | [STC]_creeperz | oh ok |
| 03:39.59 | [STC]_creeperz | what EXACTLY do I type for Windows ME? |
| 03:40.00 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: actually 65536 |
| 03:40.07 | scanline | port 0 is valid? |
| 03:40.12 | MrApathyCream | now 0, gives you a random port |
| 03:40.14 | captain_proton | yep, just noone knows about it |
| 03:40.19 | MrApathyCream | from 1-65535 |
| 03:40.28 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: it may on windows, on *nix you get port 0 |
| 03:40.33 | MrApathyCream | emm |
| 03:40.36 | MrApathyCream | prhaps |
| 03:40.43 | captain_proton | for a random port you use IPADDR_ANY |
| 03:40.45 | captain_proton | err |
| 03:40.50 | captain_proton | SOMETHING_ANY :) |
| 03:41.09 | MrApathyCream | ;) |
| 03:41.10 | [STC]_creeperz | so type 'ipconfig' or ipconfig? |
| 03:41.16 | MrApathyCream | ipconfig |
| 03:41.25 | [STC]_creeperz | ok... thnx |
| 03:42.16 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, can anyone ping 209.195.250.202 |
| 03:42.30 | scanline | 64 octets from 209.195.250.202: icmp_seq=0 ttl=117 time=204.6 ms |
| 03:42.46 | MrApathyCream | hmm, that's me on dialup.. |
| 03:42.51 | MrApathyCream | i thought you couldn't do that |
| 03:43.09 | scanline | of course you can ping a computer on dialup.. unless the ISP has specifically blocked pings |
| 03:43.40 | scanline | captain_proton: look in the "Debug Options" tab, it includes a new "Frame hertz" control =) |
| 03:43.42 | MrApathyCream | thought isps would block incoming connection requests |
| 03:43.57 | captain_proton | scanline: phone lines aren't normally good enough for ICMP data |
| 03:44.03 | [STC]_creeperz | how do I START the server now? |
| 03:44.09 | scanline | oh, ok... too many packets fall off? |
| 03:44.12 | MrApathyCream | bzfs -p 5156 -pr 5157 |
| 03:44.17 | MrApathyCream | and any other options |
| 03:44.21 | MrApathyCream | see bzfs -help |
| 03:44.26 | captain_proton | scanline: the voltage just isn't high enough |
| 03:44.40 | scanline | oh, right! |
| 03:44.42 | [STC]_creeperz | the readme tells me to put in the BZFlag directory |
| 03:44.43 | scanline | forgot about that one |
| 03:45.41 | MrApathyCream | cd 'c:\program files\bzflag1.7g0' |
| 03:45.42 | [STC]_creeperz | ok, just so yu know, I'm an idiot...ok? |
| 03:45.49 | MrApathyCream | bzfs -p 5156 -pr 5157 |
| 03:45.56 | MrApathyCream | w know |
| 03:45.58 | MrApathyCream | we know |
| 03:46.00 | MrApathyCream | ;) |
| 03:46.18 | [STC]_creeperz | the server script or the .bzw file? |
| 03:46.31 | MrApathyCream | waa? |
| 03:46.37 | [STC]_creeperz | the batch file |
| 03:46.40 | captain_proton | the ip address is normally stored in the boot sector of the disk - `cat /dev/hda |cut -c1-15` should give it to you - just have to decrypt it after that |
| 03:46.52 | MrApathyCream | haha |
| 03:46.56 | MrApathyCream | windoz anyway |
| 03:48.32 | sussudio | remember, you can only shoot other americans |
| 03:49.10 | [STC]_creeperz | ~suicide |
| 03:49.14 | [STC]_creeperz | lol |
| 03:49.22 | sussudio | hm battery powered dubya doll... how do you tell the difference |
| 03:49.32 | captain_proton | nemesis: shakespeare on a movie screen |
| 03:49.51 | [STC]_creeperz | nok |
| 03:49.54 | [STC]_creeperz | ok* |
| 03:51.14 | [STC]_creeperz | What is the 1st thing I do? |
| 03:51.29 | [STC]_creeperz | I have the Batch fiel and .bzw file |
| 03:51.32 | [STC]_creeperz | file* |
| 03:51.44 | scanline | rename the .bzw file to a .exe and run it of course! |
| 03:51.51 | scanline | :) |
| 03:52.03 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lart scanline |
| 03:52.07 | [STC]_creeperz | that don't help me |
| 03:52.12 | scanline | actually, I'm doohickyproof |
| 03:52.27 | scanline | my high levels of doohicky exposure as a child have hardened me to its effects |
| 03:52.29 | sussudio | scanline : i thought you were 80 proof |
| 03:52.36 | scanline | only when drunk |
| 03:53.00 | scanline | what's so bad about being drunk? Just ask a glass of water |
| 03:53.18 | sussudio | bunnies |
| 03:53.43 | scanline | exactly! |
| 03:53.52 | [STC]_creeperz | Gladimire: go over there and chop off that rabbits head |
| 03:53.58 | sussudio | they hide inside alcohol bottles and come out when you drink |
| 03:54.12 | sussudio | PINK BUNNIES |
| 03:54.30 | [STC]_creeperz | *bunny jumps on Gladimire and eats his throat |
| 03:54.39 | captain_proton | scanline: not a sausage |
| 03:55.00 | scanline | of course not a sausage.. it's... a muffin! |
| 03:55.17 | [STC]_creeperz | maybe its a European Swallow! |
| 03:55.26 | sussudio | powermuffs save the day |
| 03:55.33 | [STC]_creeperz | hehe |
| 03:56.16 | [STC]_creeperz | have you been drinking tonight, sir? |
| 03:56.23 | scanline | yes |
| 03:56.25 | scanline | lots and lots |
| 03:56.27 | scanline | of coca cola! |
| 03:56.56 | [STC]_creeperz | *COUGH* Probally coke! *COUGH* |
| 03:57.08 | captain_proton | by this time scanline has normally had six, maybe seven dozen cups of coffee |
| 03:57.18 | scanline | haha |
| 03:57.21 | [STC]_creeperz | ha |
| 03:57.57 | scanline | this is really funny.. when you get close to a polygon you can see it subdivide like crazy, then you back away and it just stays subdivided |
| 03:58.08 | scanline | you could draw squiggly patterns on things like this |
| 04:02.06 | captain_proton | haha, from my moo: |
| 04:02.15 | captain_proton | t says, "Whoops, removing /usr/* instead of /usr/obj/* really sucks" |
| 04:02.25 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:10.00 | captain_proton | hmm |
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| 04:11.27 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: i'm cramming right now :) |
| 04:11.44 | MrApathyCream | heh, any word on the make-up test? |
| 04:11.50 | captain_proton | tomorrow morning |
| 04:12.07 | MrApathyCream | kul |
| 04:12.17 | sussudio | make-up test? are you in beautyschool or something? |
| 04:12.34 | captain_proton | sussudio: i missed a final exam because there was an error in the schedule i copied into my calendar |
| 04:13.00 | sussudio | so you have to bring your own mascara then |
| 04:13.13 | captain_proton | haha |
| 04:13.19 | MrApathyCream | bbi1 |
| 04:14.21 | captain_proton | (cheese crumpet dispensers needed use of the phone line) |
| 04:14.34 | scanline | wow.. it's subdividing.. and not crashing |
| 04:15.23 | scanline | heh.. it's being slowed down a lot by all the debuggative printf's |
| 04:15.27 | captain_proton | damn april rain is a good song... |
| 04:15.38 | scanline | indeed it is |
| 04:16.24 | captain_proton | we really do need to contact these folks and get them to give us permission to use their stuff |
| 04:16.39 | scanline | eugh.. divx is really horribly terribly bad at compressing wireframe |
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| 04:18.20 | scanline | any word on a plot? :) |
| 04:18.26 | captain_proton | lemme ask |
| 04:18.39 | captain_proton | i doubt it, as he's been busy with his first-ever girlfriend |
| 04:18.56 | scanline | we might get an award.. "first ever open source game with a plot" |
| 04:19.04 | scanline | oh, besides nethack |
| 04:19.13 | captain_proton | we might get another award too... "first ever open source game that doesn't look like crap" |
| 04:19.27 | scanline | oh, I'm counting on that one |
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| 04:20.14 | captain_proton | (21:23:48) MuninsFire: Tell him my brain's still scrambled. |
| 04:20.14 | captain_proton | (21:24:02) MuninsFire: But as soon as I'm capable of rational thought, I'll get back on it. |
| 04:20.20 | captain_proton | told ya |
| 04:20.24 | scanline | that's cool, just curious |
| 04:22.47 | captain_proton | perhaps after my final on tuesday i'll start putting together a little flyby set to "chronic" |
| 04:23.05 | scanline | assuming we have land by then, eh? |
| 04:23.13 | captain_proton | =) |
| 04:23.44 | scanline | just need to finish this Diamond implementation, and geomorphing, and a few surface modifiers... |
| 04:24.06 | scanline | we're definitely going to scare the socks off the gamedev folks =) |
| 04:28.09 | sussudio | i got a +1 funny for something that probably should have been +1 informative |
| 04:28.22 | sussudio | +1 moderator didnt get it |
| 04:29.38 | captain_proton | if the romulans took all the remans and threw them in a dilithium mine, would they get a Reman Sum? |
| 04:30.10 | sussudio | no |
| 04:34.30 | captain_proton | scanline: how might one bind functions to things like tabpage-switching? |
| 04:34.48 | scanline | you should be able to bind the 'activate' event on the page widget |
| 04:35.47 | scanline | hmm, apparently that isn't implemented yet |
| 04:35.53 | scanline | it's just a oneliner.. /me implements |
| 04:37.15 | scanline | ok, update your pgserver |
| 04:37.36 | scanline | now the tabpage will send an activate event when it's selected or deselected, you can read it's "on" property to see which |
| 04:37.47 | captain_proton | i'm gonna start making more use of the sound manager |
| 04:37.56 | scanline | cool.. OpenAL time? :) |
| 04:38.16 | captain_proton | when i do the rewrite of it i think i'm going to make use of "sound pages" - be able to load specific pages of samples into memory and unload, so we only use what we need to play at the moment |
| 04:38.32 | scanline | JetCOW =) |
| 04:38.46 | captain_proton | yes, we could store it in the JetCOW |
| 04:46.06 | captain_proton | we can let the video card to backface culling |
| 04:46.36 | scanline | well, we can... but if you can backface cull a quadtree node you don't have to calculate anything under that node |
| 04:46.55 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 04:47.07 | scanline | frustum and backface culling of the quadtree nodes is necessary so we don't have to prioritize the entire planet's triangles when we only care about a small part |
| 04:52.05 | captain_proton | i can do frustum culling shortly, i'll have to wait until i go home to look up the stuff for backface culling |
| 04:53.58 | scanline | k. Eventually we'll need to be able to clip the frustum to a polygon then cull to that clipped frustum, for portals |
| 04:57.25 | scanline | I added a Matrix4x4 class, with some static members to get the projection and modelview matrices |
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| 05:30.43 | captain_proton | Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. |
| 05:32.19 | captain_proton | scanline: he's not here |
| 05:32.24 | scanline | oh no! |
| 05:32.25 | captain_proton | he's off studying calculus w/ jen |
| 05:32.43 | scanline | that means I'll have to write a check for pizza instaed of unloaing that $20 to him |
| 05:32.52 | scanline | s/unloaing/unloaning/ |
| 05:33.05 | captain_proton | i'll get in on pizza |
| 05:33.09 | scanline | ooh, ok |
| 05:33.28 | captain_proton | ooh wait |
| 05:33.29 | captain_proton | he's back |
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| 05:39.04 | captain_proton | scanline: so....pizza... |
| 05:48.35 | scanline | captain_proton: so.. it appears michael is busy with Halo, so maybe you and I could get a hawaiian pizza or some other flavor that he doesn't like :) |
| 05:49.01 | scanline | or we could go bug him to do pizza-like things rather than halo-like things |
| 05:49.29 | captain_proton | hawaiian is good for me |
| 05:49.37 | captain_proton | lets watch an sg1 too =) |
| 05:49.40 | scanline | yay |
| 05:49.58 | scanline | I don't have any cash now though.. so I could write a check, or I could pay you later |
| 05:50.54 | scanline | oh.. I should bug Jen to return the SG1 DVD she borrowed |
| 05:51.24 | captain_proton | i've got cash |
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| 08:02.19 | dutchrai | hey Fiber.. |
| 08:02.25 | fiberchunks | hey ho -- sweet |
| 08:02.29 | dutchrai | :-) |
| 08:02.36 | dutchrai | Man..the birthpains I have from Linux |
| 08:02.37 | fiberchunks | k, do a uname -a as root |
| 08:02.44 | dutchrai | I did, doesnt work |
| 08:02.54 | dutchrai | Oh..no $ sign now? |
| 08:02.59 | fiberchunks | it is a learning curve, I don't deny that -- but once everything runs smoothly, you'll be fine :) |
| 08:03.14 | fiberchunks | no -- the $ indicates a user prompt, the # indicates a superuser prompt |
| 08:03.14 | dutchrai | Trying...CTRL-ALT-F1? |
| 08:03.25 | dutchrai | Tx |
| 08:03.34 | fiberchunks | no, just open a console from X |
| 08:03.48 | fiberchunks | look in main menu->terminals , select one |
| 08:04.21 | fiberchunks | the thing is with this install - you have to be NOT running X for everything to go smoothly |
| 08:04.24 | dutchrai | Ok..got 2.4.19-16mdk |
| 08:04.32 | dutchrai | Go to NVidia? |
| 08:04.46 | fiberchunks | yup...and get this |
| 08:04.48 | fiberchunks | hang on |
| 08:04.52 | dutchrai | k |
| 08:06.17 | dutchrai | Can choose between Mandrake90Up, SMP and Enterprise. Saw none of those using Uname |
| 08:07.04 | fiberchunks | NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-4191.i386.rpm <-- this is the GLX package; |
| 08:07.12 | fiberchunks | and I'll have to see about the kernel -- hang on |
| 08:07.19 | dutchrai | downloaded |
| 08:07.26 | dutchrai | k |
| 08:10.58 | fiberchunks | how much ram in your box dutch? |
| 08:11.13 | dutchrai | 128MB |
| 08:11.33 | dutchrai | Aint much...but it works :-) |
| 08:11.47 | fiberchunks | and grab the NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191.mdk90up.i586.rpm -- that should do it |
| 08:11.57 | dutchrai | tx...dwnloading |
| 08:12.02 | fiberchunks | now -- to edit /etc/inittab |
| 08:12.33 | fiberchunks | from a console, get in as root ( $su ENTER then type in password |
| 08:12.36 | dutchrai | er...have a problem with the windowed console...cant logon as root in there |
| 08:12.44 | fiberchunks | and then: #vi /etc/inittab |
| 08:12.58 | dutchrai | dunno why...but via CTRL-ALT-F1 it works (but cant see this chat) |
| 08:13.29 | fiberchunks | type su <--then enter |
| 08:13.44 | dutchrai | Got it..tx |
| 08:13.54 | fiberchunks | cool -- open up /etc/inittab |
| 08:14.12 | dutchrai | done |
| 08:14.32 | fiberchunks | k, change this line id:5:default: to id:3:default: |
| 08:14.54 | fiberchunks | this means, that when you reboot the machine, you will, by default, boot to a non-X environment |
| 08:15.12 | fiberchunks | once you're done editing: issue ESC :wq |
| 08:15.29 | dutchrai | done |
| 08:15.46 | dutchrai | so fart so good :-) |
| 08:15.55 | dutchrai | nright back...sorry...5 min |
| 08:16.01 | fiberchunks | good deal |
| 08:20.10 | dutchrai | back..sorry |
| 08:20.14 | fiberchunks | np |
| 08:20.32 | fiberchunks | k, now let's check out your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 open that up |
| 08:20.58 | fiberchunks | find the line Section "Module" and see if Load "glx" is in there somewhere |
| 08:21.17 | dutchrai | Its there |
| 08:21.35 | dutchrai | I still have the Dri section with 0666... |
| 08:21.39 | dutchrai | that ok? |
| 08:21.52 | fiberchunks | did you add that, or was it there initially |
| 08:22.06 | dutchrai | Added from your forum Instruction :-)\ |
| 08:22.09 | dutchrai | Remove? |
| 08:22.13 | fiberchunks | k, remove it :) |
| 08:22.16 | dutchrai | k |
| 08:22.27 | dutchrai | done |
| 08:22.59 | fiberchunks | and look for the line: Section "Device" <-- look for Driver "nv" is it there? |
| 08:23.22 | dutchrai | looking |
| 08:23.41 | dutchrai | yes |
| 08:24.07 | fiberchunks | k, and this is important -- after you install the drivers - you MUST make sure that that line says: Driver "nvidia" |
| 08:24.20 | fiberchunks | just add idia between the quotes |
| 08:24.47 | fiberchunks | otherwise it'll still use the old driver (and that's no good) :) |
| 08:24.47 | dutchrai | but not yet, right? Install rpm first? |
| 08:25.11 | fiberchunks | right == but first you need to reboot, so no trace of X is running -- but first |
| 08:25.30 | fiberchunks | to start X from a console (which is what you'll need to do)... |
| 08:26.39 | fiberchunks | after you boot into a console, login as root...then, install the rpms, like this (as root, mind you): |
| 08:26.47 | dutchrai | k |
| 08:27.06 | fiberchunks | rpm -ivh NVIDIA_kernel<blah> NVIDIA_GLX<blah> |
| 08:27.18 | fiberchunks | obviously replace the blahs with the package name |
| 08:27.33 | dutchrai | ok.. |
| 08:27.36 | fiberchunks | now |
| 08:27.40 | fiberchunks | hang on... |
| 08:27.44 | dutchrai | :-) |
| 08:27.47 | fiberchunks | where'd you download the rpms to |
| 08:27.52 | fiberchunks | pathwise |
| 08:28.09 | dutchrai | my users's tmp |
| 08:28.23 | fiberchunks | so /home/<user>/tmp/NVIDIA... ? |
| 08:28.29 | dutchrai | guess so :-) |
| 08:28.35 | dutchrai | can locate it anyway |
| 08:28.44 | fiberchunks | k, do you know how to navigate directories from the command line? |
| 08:28.45 | dutchrai | I hope :-) |
| 08:28.50 | dutchrai | nyup |
| 08:29.10 | dutchrai | cd.. and cd...no problem |
| 08:29.17 | fiberchunks | good deal |
| 08:29.22 | fiberchunks | lemme see, what else |
| 08:30.23 | fiberchunks | k...when you install the rpms, the kernel one will complain about "tainting the kernel", and "module installed with warnings" <-- not important |
| 08:30.38 | dutchrai | scary..but ok :-) |
| 08:31.03 | fiberchunks | also...the GLX rpm may complain about: "moved <filename> blah to <filename>.conf.orig" or some such -- also not important |
| 08:31.12 | dutchrai | ok |
| 08:31.13 | fiberchunks | anything else -- is important |
| 08:31.32 | fiberchunks | and now, if you have problems: from the command line, just issue: startx |
| 08:31.39 | fiberchunks | that will start X for you. |
| 08:31.41 | fiberchunks | so... |
| 08:31.45 | dutchrai | Great..tx |
| 08:31.59 | dutchrai | So I'll pray and be busy now :-) |
| 08:32.02 | fiberchunks | 1. reboot 2. install rpms 3. change /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 08:32.22 | fiberchunks | 4. issue startx to test .. if all is well, come back here and let me know |
| 08:32.38 | dutchrai | Ok, tx man, appreciate all your time and help! Will give it a go now :-) |
| 08:32.45 | fiberchunks | no problem -- hope it works out :) |
| 08:32.50 | dutchrai | Me too...later! |
| 08:32.55 | fiberchunks | ciao |
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| 08:42.01 | dutchrai | alive and kicking! |
| 08:42.23 | fiberchunks | good deal -- so all went smooth! :) |
| 08:42.36 | dutchrai | yup, tx man...good job :-D |
| 08:42.45 | dutchrai | Change inittab back to 5 ? |
| 08:42.47 | fiberchunks | now, do this, as root lsmod <-- and look for NVdriver (should be at the top) |
| 08:42.54 | dutchrai | ok.. |
| 08:43.15 | fiberchunks | if you'd like, personally..i leave it at 3 and issue startx everytime -- cause there are times I don't use X |
| 08:43.25 | dutchrai | its there |
| 08:43.41 | dutchrai | makes sense...I will set it back to 5 though I think |
| 08:43.52 | fiberchunks | good, now try bzflag, and let me know how the fps is |
| 08:44.00 | dutchrai | ok... |
| 08:45.12 | dutchrai | A smooth and steady 85fps |
| 08:45.20 | dutchrai | Tx fiber...owe you one |
| 08:45.26 | fiberchunks | there you have it then :) |
| 08:45.48 | dutchrai | Need to do some more Linux diggin' and I'll get the hang of it |
| 08:45.54 | dutchrai | Tx to your help :-) |
| 08:46.03 | fiberchunks | it does take time -- but it's worth it, trust me ;) |
| 08:46.12 | fiberchunks | and do not reinstall! ever! :) |
| 08:46.19 | dutchrai | I believe you. And Mandrake does look good and all.. |
| 08:46.26 | dutchrai | ok..will stop doing that :-) |
| 08:46.36 | dutchrai | Would mean I have to do the NVIDIA thingy again too...lol |
| 08:46.47 | dutchrai | Editing XF86 now and stuff |
| 08:46.47 | fiberchunks | heheh, there's another reason |
| 08:46.54 | dutchrai | oh? |
| 08:48.26 | fiberchunks | yeah -- you really never need to, with knowledge of some basic commands, such as: lsmod, modprobe, etc (think of it as turning drivers on and off in windows) |
| 08:48.52 | dutchrai | lsmod and modprobe...you said something about it in relation to my CDRW problem |
| 08:49.00 | dutchrai | Will check the man pages for them |
| 08:49.21 | fiberchunks | also rmmod -- well, that's enough lesson for tonite, I believe I'll be off to bed soon |
| 08:49.29 | fiberchunks | glad you got it working :) |
| 08:49.33 | dutchrai | Good night then, and tx |
| 08:49.42 | fiberchunks | and isn't it a wonderful sense of accomplishment too? |
| 08:49.47 | dutchrai | I'm glad too...can run some BZFS server now at last |
| 08:49.50 | dutchrai | It is :-) |
| 08:49.58 | dutchrai | I feel so good |
| 08:50.00 | dutchrai | lol |
| 08:50.16 | fiberchunks | hehe -- I know the feeling well |
| 08:50.29 | dutchrai | How long have you been messing with Linux./Unix? |
| 08:50.39 | fiberchunks | yeah -- haha, try bzfs with windows! j/k developers :) |
| 08:50.43 | fiberchunks | about 5 years now |
| 08:51.01 | dutchrai | That makes you an expert then :-P |
| 08:51.27 | dutchrai | Now all I need to do is think of a funky name for my very own BZFS server...hehe |
| 08:51.29 | fiberchunks | not by any means -- still much more to learn -- it gets overwhelming at times |
| 08:52.03 | dutchrai | Guess so. Have had some Unix exposure in the past..but never much |
| 08:52.03 | dutchrai | And certainly no root stuff |
| 08:52.32 | fiberchunks | a mission for you -- learn vi and the commandline well -- it is EXTREMELY powerful (far more than any gui tool) |
| 08:52.44 | dutchrai | More like re-learn...I used to know it :-) |
| 08:52.51 | dutchrai | But you're right, it's important |
| 08:53.02 | fiberchunks | well, then you're ahead of the curve :) |
| 08:53.07 | dutchrai | Hehe.. |
| 08:53.29 | dutchrai | Of to diner now, me and my wife are VERY hungry! |
| 08:53.37 | dutchrai | Where is the food... |
| 08:53.49 | fiberchunks | take it easy -- eat well, and I'll see you on the forum or the battlefield! :) |
| 08:53.59 | fiberchunks | Peace |
| 08:54.02 | dutchrai | Definitely...and tx again..darn nice of you |
| 08:54.09 | dutchrai | Later Fiber |
| 08:54.10 | fiberchunks | anytime, anytime at all |
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| 14:29.06 | rooter | hello all! |
| 14:29.29 | bzdoug | bah humbug |
| 14:29.39 | rooter | :) |
| 14:31.18 | rooter | ducati is quiet today |
| 14:31.34 | bzdoug | hum |
| 14:31.49 | rooter | hambug |
| 14:32.23 | rooter | or bamhug? |
| 14:32.30 | bzdoug | ick |
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| 16:19.31 | rooter | that sucked... |
| 16:19.36 | [TeA|TrEE] | lol |
| 16:19.41 | rooter | green team was scratching their ass |
| 16:19.48 | [TeA|TrEE] | red was strong at beginning |
| 16:19.59 | [TeA|TrEE] | which team wer u? |
| 16:20.05 | [TeA|TrEE] | green? |
| 16:20.06 | rooter | green |
| 16:20.10 | [TeA|TrEE] | green was strong at beginning |
| 16:20.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | ;) |
| 16:20.19 | rooter | yes... then you came... |
| 16:20.23 | rooter | then bamf |
| 16:20.39 | rooter | red got nice, fast |
| 16:20.46 | rooter | oh, well... time for lunch |
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| 16:56.29 | cell | i greet the diligent |
| 16:56.51 | Patlabor221 | where? |
| 16:56.59 | bzdoug | huh? |
| 16:57.00 | cell | you |
| 16:57.04 | cell | here |
| 16:57.05 | Patlabor221 | who? |
| 16:57.10 | cell | you |
| 16:57.13 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 16:57.28 | cell | anticipation |
| 16:57.33 | cell | lol |
| 16:57.34 | Patlabor221 | and do I get cookies? |
| 16:57.58 | cell | hm, would give you some, but dont have any |
| 16:58.55 | Patlabor221 | it's ok, I had a bag of candy for breakfast. |
| 16:59.03 | cell | nice |
| 17:00.14 | Patlabor221 | if your gonna puke, do it in the bathroom |
| 17:00.20 | bzdoug | ~puke |
| 17:00.22 | | ACTION pukes over bzdoug |
| 17:00.29 | bzdoug | too late |
| 17:00.46 | cell | im thinking of how to flatten(ironing away) the annoying noise in the scanned surface, so it gets more continues(mathematically C(1)continuity would be cool)) |
| 17:01.42 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure there is a way |
| 17:02.18 | Patlabor221 | some sort of get a general guve then smooth anything that spikes out from it too much |
| 17:02.35 | cell | general guve? |
| 17:03.26 | Patlabor221 | sorry curve |
| 17:03.27 | cell | sorry my english is bad so i cannot recover from many errors |
| 17:03.58 | cell | yes but how to get the curve |
| 17:04.08 | Patlabor221 | that I have no clue |
| 17:04.10 | bzdoug | <jap> ah yes, kanishiwa </jap> |
| 17:05.05 | cell | konishiwa dougdedga son |
| 17:05.34 | bzdoug | ~translate please |
| 17:06.26 | sussudio | ~schweinhund |
| 17:06.28 | | Schweinhund is prozac |
| 17:06.41 | bzdoug | ~dict pig dog |
| 17:07.04 | cell | hundeska |
| 17:07.14 | bzdoug | ~dict hundeska |
| 17:07.28 | cell | its jap |
| 17:07.38 | bzdoug | yah |
| 17:07.45 | bzdoug | ~spell sussudio |
| 17:07.45 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'sussudio' |
| 17:07.51 | bzdoug | hum |
| 17:08.17 | cell | ~spell pigdog |
| 17:08.17 | | possible spellings for pigdog: pig dog pig-dog |
| 17:08.39 | bzdoug | ~dict swine hund |
| 17:08.50 | bzdoug | ~spell swine hund |
| 17:08.50 | | 'swine hund' may be spelled correctly |
| 17:09.03 | cell | ~dict schweinhund |
| 17:09.11 | cell | ~dict schweinehund |
| 17:09.19 | cell | ~dict schweine hund |
| 17:09.20 | bzdoug | ~die |
| 17:09.26 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless. |
| 17:09.34 | bzdoug | bwuahahahahaha |
| 17:09.41 | cell | :) |
| 17:10.07 | cell | ~ibot~ |
| 17:10.56 | cell | can that bot be crashed? |
| 17:12.19 | bzdoug | ~die |
| 17:12.20 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless|<action> feels kinda funny and his head explodes into a flash of plasma |
| 17:12.27 | bzdoug | bah |
| 17:13.35 | cell | ak|ra: i sloved my recursion stack overflow, by allowing only a depth of 8232, 8233 gives the stack overflow, i dont know why |
| 17:16.03 | cell | Patlabor221: i saw you created some array tools for your editor and cloning |
| 17:17.33 | bzdoug | hmmm, the Nikon D1 |
| 17:17.55 | bzdoug | oops |
| 17:17.59 | Patlabor221 | yes I made dupe and... |
| 17:18.04 | bzdoug | haha |
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| 17:18.37 | Patlabor221 | ohh well |
| 17:18.50 | bzdoug | haha |
| 17:18.50 | bzdoug | hmm, the D1 does 11.8 megapixals |
| 17:18.51 | bzdoug | sweet |
| 17:19.04 | Patlabor221 | exactly how much money did you get? |
| 17:19.10 | bzdoug | none |
| 17:19.14 | bzdoug | my dad wants it |
| 17:19.27 | Patlabor221 | weren't you gonna get a MP3 player? |
| 17:19.55 | bzdoug | mp3 player = me: d1 = dad |
| 17:21.16 | Patlabor221 | so again, how much money did you get? |
| 17:21.21 | bzdoug | none |
| 17:21.43 | Patlabor221 | and how are you going to get a MP3 player then? |
| 17:21.45 | captain_proton | doobeedoo |
| 17:21.47 | Patlabor221 | ask santa? |
| 17:22.26 | Patlabor221 | santa I want a 5foot 6 inch readhead please. |
| 17:22.45 | bzdoug | Santa: give him a dictionary first |
| 17:22.46 | Santa | readhead? what would you like written on it? |
| 17:23.09 | lurgyman | Patlabor221: santa's already got one of those at the front of his multiracial reindeer team |
| 17:23.09 | Patlabor221 | redhead |
| 17:23.13 | Patlabor221 | sorry I'm tired |
| 17:23.32 | Patlabor221 | and the bag of candy is wearing off |
| 17:25.20 | Patlabor221 | oh and a fixed sound manager, that would be nice. |
| 17:25.52 | Santa | i'm considering redoing the sound manager today |
| 17:26.05 | Patlabor221 | gonna openAL it? |
| 17:26.15 | Patlabor221 | I'm almost done with the redo of it |
| 17:26.18 | Santa | problem is i'll probably integrate it with the JetCOW, so it'll be useless to you unless you choose to use the JetCOW |
| 17:26.36 | Patlabor221 | ohh it's ok, I'm redoing my own |
| 17:26.43 | Patlabor221 | made an OS file class |
| 17:26.52 | Patlabor221 | now all the things that load fiels use that |
| 17:26.58 | Santa | thats cool |
| 17:27.27 | Santa | one of the things i really want to do is have "sound pages" - so it only loads the page(s) you'll need at the moment instead of having all effects in memory |
| 17:27.40 | bzdoug | JETCOW! |
| 17:28.06 | Santa | (so it makes sense to just store them in the JetCOW) =) |
| 17:28.15 | bzdoug | jetcow |
| 17:29.03 | Patlabor221 | jetdogcow in some cases |
| 17:29.09 | bzdoug | cowjet |
| 17:29.14 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:29.16 | Patlabor221 | noo tha'ts difrent |
| 17:29.28 | bzdoug | cowgas |
| 17:29.34 | Patlabor221 | agan difrent |
| 17:29.41 | bzdoug | gasco |
| 17:29.53 | Patlabor221 | nooo that's your house |
| 17:29.59 | lurgyman | Patlabor221: it's so... subtle |
| 17:30.21 | Patlabor221 | it gets hypnotic after a while. |
| 17:30.30 | lurgyman | ok... |
| 17:30.43 | lurgyman | so does beating your head against a wall |
| 17:30.55 | Patlabor221 | yes but this hurts less |
| 17:31.19 | lurgyman | that's what the weather gizmo is for |
| 17:31.19 | Patlabor221 | that was sent to me, by my frined who runs a PS2 sports game board, some guy uses that as his avatar. |
| 17:32.03 | lurgyman | naturally because looks -exactly- like that |
| 17:33.13 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:33.22 | Patlabor221 | ick manboobs |
| 17:33.26 | lurgyman | glad we straightened that out |
| 17:34.06 | lurgyman | best digital camera footage i've ever seen |
| 17:35.56 | lurgyman | i'm not sure he's in playing PS2 when he could be out picking up guys with a body like that |
| 17:36.19 | bzdoug | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.36 | Santa | bzdoug: no |
| 17:36.42 | bzdoug | ? |
| 17:37.04 | bzdoug | const int CitySize = 5; |
| 17:37.24 | lurgyman | i don't believe in no Sanity clause |
| 17:38.11 | bzdoug | what is that city thing? |
| 17:38.21 | bzdoug | is it for CTF? |
| 17:38.53 | Patlabor221 | where is it used? |
| 17:38.56 | Patlabor221 | think |
| 17:39.19 | lurgyman | never@ |
| 17:39.35 | bzdoug | yea@ |
| 17:39.49 | bzdoug | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.15 | hardwire | hmm |
| 17:40.27 | hardwire | so far I found the best game of bzflag is played thusly: |
| 17:40.31 | hardwire | 3 or more people |
| 17:40.31 | vogon | CitySize is used for CTF and FFA when the random building option isn't specified. |
| 17:40.35 | hardwire | 3 shot limit |
| 17:40.37 | bzdoug | ah |
| 17:40.44 | hardwire | one "good" flag and no others |
| 17:40.49 | bzdoug | MagnetFlag? |
| 17:40.55 | hardwire | basically |
| 17:40.57 | Santa | bzdoug: unimplemented |
| 17:40.59 | vogon | MagnetFlag was never implemented. |
| 17:41.00 | hardwire | you can either race for the flag |
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| 17:41.04 | hardwire | or outskillzor people |
| 17:41.07 | bzdoug | Santa: how hard would it be to do it? |
| 17:41.17 | hardwire | oh.. haha.. a real magnetflag? |
| 17:41.19 | vogon | bzdoug: it'd require some MsgGMUpdate-esque fuckery. |
| 17:41.27 | bzdoug | ... |
| 17:41.36 | Santa | bzdoug: fairly difficult, at least to do securely - i'm planning on implementing it once all that stuff is handled in the server |
| 17:41.43 | bzdoug | const float MagnetPower = 0.0f |
| 17:41.45 | bzdoug | ah, ok |
| 17:41.46 | vogon | we'd have to implement a new ShotStrategy, too. |
| 17:42.05 | bzdoug | so the server could move bullets without causing clients to die? |
| 17:42.06 | bzdoug | :) |
| 17:42.14 | hardwire | somebody mentioned flag combining.. it would be interesting to have guided laser |
| 17:42.19 | hardwire | not fun.. but very odd |
| 17:42.23 | bzdoug | ? |
| 17:42.26 | bzdoug | how would that work? |
| 17:42.26 | vogon | heh. |
| 17:42.29 | hardwire | hah |
| 17:42.30 | bzdoug | a curving laser? |
| 17:42.30 | hardwire | I know |
| 17:42.33 | vogon | bzdoug: laser bends to hit the target. |
| 17:42.40 | lurgyman | hardwire: no... guided laser is for loosers... SUPER guided laser |
| 17:42.42 | bzdoug | riiiight |
| 17:42.44 | lurgyman | goes through buildings |
| 17:42.44 | Santa | vogon: yeah, fairly simple though - just have to recompute segments on update |
| 17:42.46 | hardwire | heheh |
| 17:42.50 | vogon | Santa: yeah. |
| 17:42.55 | ak|ra | all flags are for loosers :) |
| 17:43.00 | hardwire | basically |
| 17:43.00 | ak|ra | ductatistyle :) |
| 17:43.04 | lurgyman | that's what hacked clients are for :p |
| 17:43.07 | Santa | decksstyle :) |
| 17:43.22 | lurgyman | or scanline's flightsim mode |
| 17:43.28 | hardwire | rawr? |
| 17:43.43 | bzdoug | how about a laser that blows up buildings? |
| 17:43.59 | Patlabor221 | that would requrire a lot more |
| 17:43.59 | bzdoug | lurgyman: what did you add for your super jump thing |
| 17:44.06 | vogon | bzdoug: you'd have to implement a way for the client and server to modify their WorldDatabases mid-game. |
| 17:44.14 | bzdoug | yea |
| 17:44.21 | Santa | WorldDatabasesSuck |
| 17:44.27 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:44.32 | bzdoug | or better yet, it would blow a hole through the building |
| 17:44.34 | bzdoug | bwuahahah |
| 17:45.18 | lurgyman | bzdoug: i set the newVelocity vertical component to be the same as the net speed |
| 17:45.23 | lurgyman | bzdoug: whenever you land |
| 17:45.33 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:45.52 | lurgyman | bzdoug: scanline and i are considering making a hacked client |
| 17:46.22 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 17:46.29 | lurgyman | bzdoug: er, server |
| 17:46.30 | bzdoug | with flymode/super jump? |
| 17:46.40 | lurgyman | bzdoug: well... bounce mode |
| 17:46.44 | Santa | boing boing |
| 17:46.50 | bzdoug | triggerable? |
| 17:46.57 | lurgyman | bzdoug: my bounce is kinda broken now... more of a dribbling basketball mode |
| 17:47.04 | bzdoug | lurgyman: ah |
| 17:47.11 | vogon | the kernel has decided to set aside 487 megabytes for disk cache. |
| 17:47.18 | bzdoug | and scanlines fly mode allows for full control? |
| 17:47.19 | vogon | err. |
| 17:47.22 | vogon | 494 megabytes. |
| 17:47.39 | lurgyman | bzdoug: slight fork |
| 17:47.56 | bzdoug | hm |
| 17:48.15 | vogon | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.15 | vogon | Mem: 1548892 1383856 165036 0 105152 494612 |
| 17:48.30 | vogon | so l33t. |
| 17:48.39 | bzdoug | uh huh |
| 17:49.29 | bzdoug | whats with the f after all the numbers? |
| 17:49.32 | bzdoug | 1.0f? |
| 17:49.54 | Patlabor221 | *sigh* |
| 17:49.57 | vogon | bzdoug: floating point. |
| 17:49.59 | Patlabor221 | it means fudge |
| 17:50.00 | bzdoug | aah |
| 17:50.04 | Patlabor221 | we all like fudge |
| 17:50.09 | lurgyman | or fun |
| 17:50.09 | vogon | mmm, fudge. |
| 17:50.11 | lurgyman | 1.0 fun |
| 17:50.11 | Santa | vogon: wait a farking second. 1548?!?! |
| 17:50.17 | vogon | Santa also enjoys packing fudge. |
| 17:50.19 | vogon | Santa: yes. |
| 17:50.24 | vogon | Santa: 1.5 GB. |
| 17:50.24 | lurgyman | if you want the game to be twice as fun, double all the numbers with 'f' after them |
| 17:50.26 | Patlabor221 | ewwwwww |
| 17:50.53 | bzdoug | thats what I am doin |
| 17:51.01 | Santa | vogon: i'm going to disregard comments like that when i've had infinitely more girlfriends than you |
| 17:51.09 | vogon | Santa: good point. |
| 17:51.17 | vogon | and infinitely more boyfriends, too. |
| 17:51.25 | *** kick/#bzflag [vogon!~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU] by Santa (Santa) |
| 17:51.28 | bzdoug | lol |
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| 17:51.38 | Santa | ducked too soon |
| 17:51.42 | vogon | yeah. |
| 17:51.53 | vogon | your form is improving. |
| 17:51.54 | lurgyman | merry christmas! |
| 17:52.32 | Patlabor221 | because you have no clue what you are doing |
| 17:52.35 | Santa | bzdoug: user error |
| 17:52.40 | Patlabor221 | baka mode |
| 17:52.42 | vogon | g++ can't comprehend the concept of something twice as fun as BZFlag. |
| 17:52.57 | bzdoug | loons |
| 17:52.57 | vogon | brb. |
| 17:53.09 | Santa | vogon: use E! |
| 17:53.11 | Patlabor221 | douge change the build target |
| 17:53.12 | vogon | <GNOME2> let's take away all the cool options. |
| 17:53.21 | vogon | <GNOME2> and totally fuck up maximization. |
| 17:53.27 | vogon | santa: 0.16 or 0.17? |
| 17:53.32 | Santa | vogon: 0.14 |
| 17:53.36 | lurgyman | my load avg is more like 0.44 |
| 17:54.07 | lurgyman | nope, 0.00 |
| 17:54.14 | lurgyman | y'all should upgrade |
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| 17:54.15 | vogon | santa: d00d, KDE is 3.06 l33ter than E 0.14. |
| 17:54.29 | lurgyman | i only use win31 |
| 17:54.35 | bzdoug | hum, if spawning outside of the walls, your only way of driving is back inside |
| 17:54.36 | hardwire | don;t you pull any vogoneese mind tricks on me |
| 17:54.53 | bzdoug | poems!!! |
| 17:55.02 | vogon | bzdoug: ugh. not this again. |
| 17:55.06 | bzdoug | lol |
| 17:55.10 | Patlabor221 | your vogon mind tricks won't work here. |
| 17:55.11 | lurgyman | if you strike me down, i will be come more dead than you can possibly imagine |
| 17:55.17 | Santa | we need apathy if we're going to be writing poems |
| 17:55.28 | vogon | Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me, as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. |
| 17:55.39 | bzdoug | ahhh |
| 17:55.48 | Patlabor221 | the revolution WILL be a webcast. |
| 17:55.50 | vogon | Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, or I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! |
| 17:55.54 | lurgyman | Don't cry for me Argenteeeeeenaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, the trooth is i nevre luved yoooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 17:56.05 | Santa | trooth! |
| 17:56.46 | vogon | so, what's the "cool" window manager all the "kids" are using these days? |
| 17:56.54 | lurgyman | Oah the majicle mister mastoofelly bum ba dum bum |
| 17:56.55 | vogon | hold that thought. |
| 17:57.13 | hardwire | dratsab |
| 17:57.54 | lurgyman | coming in! six marks at 2 10! |
| 17:57.54 | lurgyman | roger, what do we do 'till then? |
| 17:58.41 | Patlabor221 | Believe it or not, I'm walkin' on air. |
| 17:59.05 | bzdoug | I dont |
| 17:59.19 | bzdoug | const float MGunAdLife = 10.0f/MGunAdRate;// 1/10 normal lifetime |
| 17:59.34 | Patlabor221 | hero no here |
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| 18:01.53 | Santa | vogon: happily running MetaCity now? :) |
| 18:02.00 | vogon | nope. |
| 18:02.05 | vogon | icewm. |
| 18:02.38 | Santa | run waimea! all the speed of E, combined with the ease of configurability of twm! |
| 18:03.14 | vogon | been there, done that. |
| 18:03.34 | Santa | all the cool kids run sawfish |
| 18:03.56 | vogon | as well as kwin. |
| 18:03.57 | Santa | make up your mind, boy |
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| 18:04.38 | akira_ | re |
| 18:04.43 | Santa | vogon: ever run twm? |
| 18:06.04 | vogon | santa: yeah, for a while. |
| 18:06.15 | [TeA]- | ibot ducatictf |
| 18:06.22 | [TeA]- | :o( |
| 18:06.27 | [TeA]- | aaah |
| 18:06.47 | vogon | heh. |
| 18:07.29 | Santa | can't beat it for actually getting stuff done |
| 18:10.59 | vogon | sweet. |
| 18:11.10 | vogon | IceWM is totally l33t once you get a decent theme slapped on. |
| 18:14.09 | [TeA]- | laaaaaaaaa |
| 18:14.10 | [TeA]- | :) |
| 18:14.41 | cell | Patlabor221: what do you think is the result when you replace each vertex position by the average vertex position of all its neighbouring vertices? |
| 18:15.05 | cell | and repeat that steps |
| 18:15.38 | Patlabor221 | it will all mush out to a rounded bloby thing |
| 18:16.11 | cell | right |
| 18:16.26 | Patlabor221 | hoe much depends on the number of iterations |
| 18:16.37 | Patlabor221 | and tehre may be some verts you don't wnat to to change. |
| 18:16.53 | cell | yes the border vertices if any |
| 18:17.07 | cell | because otherwise it shrinks |
| 18:17.31 | Patlabor221 | I would think evenutaly it would become ether a plane or a ball |
| 18:18.28 | cell | no it tends towards an edge or line |
| 18:18.56 | cell | but if you keep the border it tends towards a plane |
| 18:19.45 | Patlabor221 | well there you go then. |
| 18:22.02 | cell | so first i do that to eliminate most of the noise/wiggle and then merge tris that are almost flat(normal deviation) |
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| 18:22.18 | cell | it works quite well |
| 18:22.27 | cell | and was easy to implement |
| 18:22.53 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 18:23.57 | cell | i really have to try simple things first before thinking of complicated |
| 18:29.29 | hardwire | doh |
| 18:29.33 | hardwire | compiled cvs bzflag |
| 18:29.38 | hardwire | black screen |
| 18:29.40 | hardwire | kill X server |
| 18:29.43 | hardwire | :( |
| 18:29.50 | Santa | hardwire: put the data directory in the place it expects |
| 18:29.56 | hardwire | oh |
| 18:29.59 | hardwire | there is a data directory? |
| 18:30.00 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:31.15 | hardwire | hmm.. is there a global location.. |
| 18:31.27 | hardwire | so far I just see ./ and ./data and -directory |
| 18:31.30 | Santa | look at what configs/config-linux expects |
| 18:31.43 | hardwire | oh danke |
| 18:33.20 | hardwire | wow |
| 18:33.25 | hardwire | totally different menu system :) |
| 18:33.34 | hardwire | so many rendering options vanished |
| 18:33.44 | *** part/#bzflag bomber (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 18:34.09 | Santa | hardwire: i'd be willing to bet that you compiled 1.8 |
| 18:34.25 | hardwire | 1.8a |
| 18:34.36 | hardwire | just peeking at new fun stuff |
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| 18:38.33 | hardwire | what does the useless flag do? |
| 18:38.35 | Patlabor221 | 1.8 is dead |
| 18:38.39 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:38.41 | hardwire | doh |
| 18:38.43 | hardwire | 1.8 is dead?! |
| 18:38.46 | Patlabor221 | will be moved to expiremental |
| 18:38.47 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 18:38.53 | Patlabor221 | was tooooo difrent |
| 18:39.02 | Santa | not that it was too different |
| 18:39.15 | Santa | its just that noone other than me was willing to spend the time to familiarize with the new code |
| 18:39.17 | Patlabor221 | well noone wanted to work in it |
| 18:40.42 | Patlabor221 | and the useless flag, was just that... useless |
| 18:40.45 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:40.49 | hardwire | hmm |
| 18:41.01 | hardwire | so the most current run of the mill version of bzflag is 1.7? |
| 18:41.08 | Patlabor221 | 1.7g0 |
| 18:41.29 | hardwire | what do you know.. thats in debian |
| 18:41.46 | hardwire | so if I wanted to work on a new tank model for the game.. for geeking out.. I would make it against 1.7? |
| 18:42.08 | Patlabor221 | if you wanted anyone to use it |
| 18:42.16 | Patlabor221 | but 1.7 dosn't load models |
| 18:42.29 | hardwire | well.. the model doesn't come from the sky |
| 18:42.39 | Patlabor221 | sure it does |
| 18:42.43 | Patlabor221 | it's hardcoded |
| 18:42.44 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:42.49 | hardwire | hardcoded != sky |
| 18:42.58 | hardwire | take a good look at my nick for a sec |
| 18:43.04 | Patlabor221 | the sky is hardcoded too |
| 18:43.07 | Patlabor221 | so yes it does |
| 18:43.17 | hardwire | heh |
| 18:43.21 | Patlabor221 | riiiiiggghhht |
| 18:43.28 | hardwire | heheh |
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| 18:50.14 | Patlabor221 | bigest problem I had with puting models in there was geting the properl texture loading in there. it's all done in difrent places. |
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| 19:00.23 | m0nkeyb0y | morning! |
| 19:00.42 | bzdoug | afternoon |
| 19:00.59 | Chestal | hi mb |
| 19:01.06 | m0nkeyb0y | hi ches |
| 19:13.43 | cell | wtf, this crap version of vs7 makes me mad!!! |
| 19:14.39 | cell | vertex.tx == float.NaN does not work |
| 19:15.05 | cell | even though vertex.tx = float.NaN is done previously |
| 19:15.25 | Chestal | in C/C++ NaN!=NaN |
| 19:15.47 | Chestal | so, I guess it might be the same in C# |
| 19:15.48 | cell | really |
| 19:16.06 | Chestal | yes, if a is NaN, then a==a is false |
| 19:16.20 | cell | why that? |
| 19:16.26 | Chestal | it's defined that way |
| 19:16.33 | cell | k, thanks |
| 19:16.51 | cell | i try float.PositiveInfinity |
| 19:17.00 | Chestal | C++ has lots of functions to checkfor the different types of NaNs, don;t knwo about C#, maybe a simple if (a!=a) will do |
| 19:17.45 | cell | i try |
| 19:21.13 | cell | yes the fucking compiler does not update changes, i have to recompile the whole project again, what a mess, first i thought that only the VS7 GUI is crappy but there are really a lot of errors |
| 19:21.50 | Patlabor221 | wbsnake |
| 19:22.05 | bzdoug | hmm, will it get all files? |
| 19:22.17 | Patlabor221 | it will get everyting that's linked |
| 19:22.20 | bzdoug | even unknown extentions? |
| 19:22.22 | bzdoug | kewl |
| 19:22.24 | Patlabor221 | on the site |
| 19:22.26 | bzdoug | I am usin webzip |
| 19:22.28 | Patlabor221 | yes you set it |
| 19:22.38 | bzdoug | hm |
| 19:22.55 | bzdoug | still chugin along |
| 19:23.08 | Patlabor221 | what are you trying to leach? |
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| 19:23.38 | bzdoug | http://dahak.ne.client2.attbi.com:8080/Honorverse/HonorverseCD/index.htm |
| 19:23.46 | bzdoug | found the whole CD online |
| 19:23.54 | bzdoug | and its legal too |
| 19:24.05 | sussudio | unlike you |
| 19:24.22 | bzdoug | look whos talkin |
| 19:24.30 | bzdoug | websnake is free? |
| 19:25.46 | Patlabor221 | I have no clue |
| 19:25.53 | Patlabor221 | don't know if it's even made anymore |
| 19:26.01 | bzdoug | I found the website |
| 19:26.01 | Patlabor221 | forget the name of the one I used recently |
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| 19:26.03 | Patlabor221 | HTTP somting |
| 19:26.17 | Patlabor221 | there are a TON of them out there |
| 19:26.20 | bzdoug | hi Noodleman |
| 19:26.25 | Noodleman | hey doug |
| 19:26.25 | bzdoug | bye Noodleman |
| 19:26.32 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 19:26.47 | bzdoug | I have to go chip paint off a ceiling |
| 19:27.18 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 19:27.27 | bzdoug | and I shall let this program do its thing |
| 19:27.40 | Noodleman | which program is that? |
| 19:27.47 | bzdoug | webzip |
| 19:28.15 | sussudio | in soviet russia, the web zips YOU |
| 19:28.34 | bzdoug | tooooo much slashdot for you buddy |
| 19:28.43 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 19:29.07 | Noodleman | did you see the UF comic toady? |
| 19:29.12 | Noodleman | for once it IS funny :-P |
| 19:29.55 | sussudio | although it doesnt make any sense whatsoever |
| 19:30.06 | Noodleman | if you work at an ISP it does |
| 19:30.11 | sussudio | nope |
| 19:30.17 | sussudio | say you have 100 leds |
| 19:30.20 | Noodleman | ever seen a modem rack? |
| 19:30.24 | sussudio | what's going to be the powersource? |
| 19:30.43 | sussudio | and if you connect ONE the wrong way round..... |
| 19:30.47 | sussudio | it's not going to work |
| 19:31.04 | Noodleman | picky pick picky :-) |
| 19:31.24 | sussudio | and they need DC, so you cant just hook them up to the mains either :-P |
| 19:32.13 | Noodleman | well, you could hook them up in parallel, then you'd know which one you've got turned around |
| 19:32.37 | sussudio | they need, what? 3 volts? |
| 19:33.11 | Noodleman | depends |
| 19:33.21 | Noodleman | brb |
| 19:33.27 | sussudio | hooking them up in parallel..... you got a 100 feet of cable handy? |
| 19:33.46 | sussudio | just get one of those light tubes..... 18 feet for 10 dollah |
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| 19:37.06 | Noodleman | ok |
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| 19:41.22 | hardwire | its waaaay too complex tho |
| 19:41.23 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:41.24 | Noodleman | all ears... |
| 19:42.22 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/newtank1.jpg |
| 19:42.54 | Noodleman | yes, very complex :-) |
| 19:42.56 | hardwire | just need to add animation cycles to bzflag.. and tada.. it walks and jumps |
| 19:43.02 | hardwire | well it can be decomplexified |
| 19:43.37 | hardwire | with current hardware it should not be to complex at all |
| 19:43.38 | Noodleman | it'd look even cooler without the facets |
| 19:43.56 | hardwire | facets? |
| 19:44.02 | Noodleman | most of us are using rivas or geforce 2's |
| 19:44.15 | hardwire | yeh.. which should hanle that alright |
| 19:44.25 | Noodleman | yeah, the flat edges |
| 19:44.35 | hardwire | without flat edges? |
| 19:44.44 | *** part/#bzflag strayer (~s-t-r-a-y@p5088BC79.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:45.54 | Noodleman | uh... |
| 19:46.58 | hardwire | well |
| 19:47.01 | hardwire | give it a shot |
| 19:47.07 | hardwire | I am probably used to calling it something else |
| 19:47.07 | Noodleman | see the barrel there? it's smooth |
| 19:47.11 | hardwire | yeh |
| 19:47.13 | Noodleman | no flat edges |
| 19:47.17 | hardwire | well |
| 19:47.22 | hardwire | its not smooth |
| 19:47.23 | hardwire | actually |
| 19:47.29 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 19:47.36 | Noodleman | well, if it was... |
| 19:48.01 | Noodleman | well, the flat planes are called facets |
| 19:48.08 | Noodleman | like on a diamond |
| 19:48.27 | hardwire | ok |
| 19:48.31 | hardwire | I just call them flat faces |
| 19:48.36 | Noodleman | ok |
| 19:48.47 | Noodleman | LOL |
| 19:48.57 | Noodleman | what 3d software are you using? |
| 19:49.27 | hardwire | its funner if you guess |
| 19:49.35 | Noodleman | blender? |
| 19:49.40 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/newtank2.jpg |
| 19:49.41 | hardwire | bingo |
| 19:50.03 | Noodleman | yes, that is what i was thinking :-) |
| 19:50.10 | hardwire | yeah |
| 19:50.12 | hardwire | well |
| 19:50.15 | Noodleman | looks like some sort of bug |
| 19:50.19 | Noodleman | very kewl |
| 19:50.20 | hardwire | the gforce fx could do that |
| 19:50.26 | hardwire | not much else could |
| 19:50.27 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:50.36 | hardwire | but |
| 19:50.41 | hardwire | throwing an animation loop in there |
| 19:50.51 | hardwire | and making it walk |
| 19:50.57 | hardwire | then walk backwards when it is reversing |
| 19:51.05 | hardwire | and then having a short loop for jump/landing |
| 19:51.09 | hardwire | err short series |
| 19:51.14 | hardwire | I think it would look cool |
| 19:51.41 | hardwire | I would want to go all out tho.. and say when you are backing up over a ledge.. have the back feet start wondering where the ground is |
| 19:51.41 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:51.55 | hardwire | bzflag is fine the way it is.. |
| 19:52.00 | hardwire | I just feel playfull |
| 19:52.04 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 19:52.54 | hardwire | do you have blender? |
| 19:53.15 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/newtank.blend |
| 19:53.27 | Noodleman | no i don't |
| 19:53.40 | hardwire | well you should.. damnit |
| 19:53.46 | Noodleman | i have *attempted* to mess with it in the past |
| 19:53.51 | hardwire | ah |
| 19:54.08 | Noodleman | too complicated for my sorry brain :-) |
| 19:54.19 | hardwire | I agree :) |
| 19:54.24 | Noodleman | :-P |
| 19:54.31 | hardwire | no no.. its pretty simple |
| 19:54.59 | hardwire | snag it and load up that file |
| 19:55.29 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 19:55.42 | rooter | too bad |
| 19:57.41 | hardwire | is anybody here familiar with the tank geometry? |
| 19:58.40 | Noodleman | http://www.shellshock.dutchrai.com/references-actsfacts.htm |
| 19:59.07 | Noodleman | that's got the tank geometery |
| 19:59.21 | hardwire | I mean the triangle list.. format and so forth |
| 19:59.38 | hardwire | cool lookin site btw |
| 19:59.47 | Noodleman | not mine :-) |
| 19:59.59 | Noodleman | http://www.noodleroni.com/ <- this is mine |
| 20:00.00 | rooter | have you tried looking in CVS for the code? shellshock is a cool site. |
| 20:00.01 | hardwire | I can grok the 1.8 stuff |
| 20:00.12 | hardwire | the bzg files |
| 20:01.07 | rooter | that's probably your best bet |
| 20:01.25 | rooter | and then... you can put a reference on your site :) |
| 20:01.31 | hardwire | hmm |
| 20:01.37 | hardwire | well 1.7 stuff is cool too |
| 20:01.40 | hardwire | much easier :) |
| 20:01.44 | rooter | yes |
| 20:01.55 | hardwire | / |
| 20:01.56 | hardwire | / TankIDLSceneNode::IDLRenderNode |
| 20:01.56 | hardwire | / |
| 20:01.57 | hardwire | correct? |
| 20:02.16 | rooter | i'm not sure... Chestal, u know |
| 20:02.21 | rooter | ? |
| 20:02.27 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:07.01 | hardwire | crap |
| 20:07.07 | hardwire | compiling 1.7e6 |
| 20:07.10 | hardwire | is this common: |
| 20:07.12 | hardwire | /usr/include/common.h:17: `DBPROCESS' was not declared in this scope |
| 20:07.12 | hardwire | /usr/include/common.h:17: `dbproc' was not declared in this scope |
| 20:07.12 | hardwire | /usr/include/common.h:18: `DBINT' was not declared in this scope |
| 20:07.12 | hardwire | /usr/include/common.h:18: parse error before `,' |
| 20:07.18 | hardwire | I know its common.h |
| 20:07.23 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:11.30 | rooter | i've never gotten that. What platform or you compiling on? |
| 20:12.06 | hardwire | hah |
| 20:12.07 | hardwire | well |
| 20:12.13 | hardwire | none of my other machines have a common.h |
| 20:12.23 | hardwire | but bzflag has one |
| 20:12.46 | hardwire | so whatever package installed /usr/include/common.h needs to die |
| 20:13.16 | hardwire | stupid overriding stuff |
| 20:13.21 | hardwire | grrrr |
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| 20:15.27 | cell | today i made nice progress again |
| 20:17.09 | cell | now i can concentrate on implementing automatic tooth reconstruction :) |
| 20:17.20 | cell | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.49 | cell | now i can select damaged regions by one mouse click |
| 20:19.17 | cell | so the reconstruction algo has a starting point |
| 20:24.25 | cell | i was thinking a lot of a nice solid body reconstruction algorithm, and i come to the idea to let the tooth grow again cell by cell, while this sounds strange it nevertheless is great |
| 20:24.56 | hardwire | cell: sweet |
| 20:25.09 | hardwire | can you reconstruct my teeth :) |
| 20:26.17 | cell | my prof did not want to tell me how he is planning to do the reconstruction as he honestly said after i asked why not?: Because i am afraid you steel my work and sell it. lol |
| 20:26.25 | hardwire | heh |
| 20:26.31 | hardwire | hmm |
| 20:26.46 | hardwire | well .. I would love to someday do the whole george washington thing.. - the wood |
| 20:27.32 | cell | sorry hardwire i cannot reconstruct your theets, but i can tell you that rat theets have been let groen in the rats gut successfully |
| 20:27.42 | cell | grown |
| 20:27.53 | cell | so its a question of time |
| 20:27.57 | cell | 20 years |
| 20:28.07 | cell | keep yourself fresh |
| 20:28.18 | cell | otherwise you could easily regret it |
| 20:29.15 | cell | lol |
| 20:29.45 | cell | hey arat has more than 90% of genetic material identical to humans |
| 20:29.55 | sussudio | 98% to lawyers |
| 20:30.41 | cell | bysides they are serching for the appropiate medium where teeth coulsd grow |
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| 20:34.16 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 20:35.52 | cell | also i hope you tried the great ne synthetic t$t voices which i build in for spoken tool tip assistance using microsoft speech sdk |
| 20:36.38 | cell | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.15 | cell | since i took on a java gui compiler course and there is a opengl wrapper for java too, it should not be that difficult to port it all to java |
| 20:41.42 | ak|ra | re |
| 20:43.21 | cell | i dont mean the java3d api that is a scene graph api |
| 20:45.51 | cell | just the one used in the nehe samples |
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| 20:47.23 | bzdoug | ahhhhh, bleach in my eyes and my mouth |
| 20:51.31 | bzdoug | Noodleman: ya there? |
| 20:51.41 | cell | i also switch to the quadedge mesh data structure |
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| 21:04.06 | jhlywa | holy cow |
| 21:04.07 | bzdoug | wow, no vowals |
| 21:04.21 | jzaun | What makes the cow holy? |
| 21:04.21 | jhlywa | I'm now officially addicted to this game |
| 21:04.50 | bzdoug | um |
| 21:04.56 | bzdoug | good.... for.... you. |
| 21:05.23 | jhlywa | heh, -41 low score, +1 high score :) |
| 21:05.31 | jhlywa | I need more practice |
| 21:05.34 | jzaun | That gets better with time :-) |
| 21:05.35 | bzdoug | uh huh |
| 21:06.13 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:06.21 | hardwire | so in 1.7 geometry is in IDL ? |
| 21:07.49 | hardwire | oh |
| 21:07.53 | hardwire | hmm |
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| 21:09.17 | rooter | Chestal: could you kick someone on ducati ctf |
| 21:09.18 | rooter | n? |
| 21:09.51 | rooter | there is an nr that has a flag that won' |
| 21:09.59 | rooter | ...won't go away |
| 21:10.22 | rooter | never mind |
| 21:10.31 | jhlywa | this game reminds me of netrek |
| 21:12.19 | BZFlag | jhlywa: heh. now to absorb te nettrek community... ;-) resistance is futile. |
| 21:15.26 | jhlywa | heh, you need to start calling bz newbies 'twinks' :) |
| 21:24.29 | BZFlag | jhlywa joined as a twink. |
| 21:29.26 | BZFlag | hardwire: feel free to change the tanks if you find what you believe are bugs in the geometry. |
| 21:30.05 | Patlabor221 | there are bugs in the geo. |
| 21:30.14 | Patlabor221 | left and right treads are not the same |
| 21:30.19 | BZFlag | patches welcome. |
| 21:30.39 | hardwire | http://segfault.bogomip.com/newtank1.jpg |
| 21:30.41 | Patlabor221 | ohh you wouldn't like my patch :) |
| 21:31.01 | Patlabor221 | war of the worlds much? |
| 21:31.15 | Patlabor221 | needs some poly optimisations too |
| 21:31.19 | Santa | Santa joined as a martian. |
| 21:32.06 | hardwire | heheh |
| 21:32.15 | hardwire | its taking a while to load that model ) |
| 21:32.24 | hardwire | more of a test with the full vertex count |
| 21:32.37 | Patlabor221 | what's it's count? |
| 21:32.49 | hardwire | I wish I could check |
| 21:32.56 | hardwire | bzflag is still trying to load the model |
| 21:32.58 | Patlabor221 | what are you using for a modeler? |
| 21:33.01 | hardwire | blender |
| 21:33.22 | Patlabor221 | what did you use to get it out as C code? or did you put a loader in there? |
| 21:33.27 | hardwire | yay.. machine go die |
| 21:33.39 | hardwire | I used an export script with blender |
| 21:34.31 | hardwire | I should have started with a box :) |
| 21:34.43 | Patlabor221 | or "the hover tank (TM)" |
| 21:35.01 | hardwire | I wanted to put something in that looked like it should jump |
| 21:35.13 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:36.27 | hardwire | whats an easy way to tell it to not grab the mouse? |
| 21:37.37 | hardwire | it had 479 verts |
| 21:37.42 | jhlywa | hardwire: that's a cool model |
| 21:37.51 | hardwire | danke |
| 21:37.57 | Patlabor221 | that shouldn't take that loong to load |
| 21:38.01 | hardwire | well |
| 21:38.04 | Patlabor221 | proalby about 600 faces then |
| 21:38.06 | hardwire | when it kills the machine it takes a while |
| 21:38.13 | hardwire | 930 faces |
| 21:38.28 | sussudio | BWAHA |
| 21:38.32 | Patlabor221 | tri's or quads? |
| 21:38.35 | hardwire | tri |
| 21:38.40 | hardwire | took a long time to compile |
| 21:38.41 | sussudio | futurity.xs4all.nl still didnt change the admin password |
| 21:38.44 | Patlabor221 | that could be cut down |
| 21:38.49 | sussudio | what a dumbass |
| 21:38.50 | hardwire | Patlabor221: yeah |
| 21:38.54 | hardwire | reducing to one glbegin |
| 21:39.00 | hardwire | to make sure it is happy |
| 21:39.44 | Patlabor221 | I mean number of tri's |
| 21:39.48 | hardwire | yeah |
| 21:39.55 | hardwire | I just wanna see if the export took at all |
| 21:40.01 | hardwire | I plan on reducing the number of tris VERY soon |
| 21:40.02 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:40.15 | hardwire | does anybody here have experience with animating models? |
| 21:40.31 | Patlabor221 | animating in what? |
| 21:41.01 | Patlabor221 | bz dosn't realy have much in the way of animation as it it sits now |
| 21:41.07 | hardwire | I can do looots of seperate models |
| 21:41.11 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:41.15 | Patlabor221 | that's one way |
| 21:41.19 | hardwire | thats one slow way |
| 21:41.35 | Patlabor221 | common way is to take vert keyframes and interpolate them |
| 21:41.37 | Santa | the bugs legs animating would be best if done with inverse kinematics :) |
| 21:41.42 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:41.44 | Patlabor221 | that's what CAnimModel does |
| 21:41.45 | hardwire | you wanna add that :) |
| 21:42.20 | Santa | heh |
| 21:42.27 | Santa | i'll probably be writing an inverse kinematics engine |
| 21:42.27 | hardwire | Patlabor221: I was just thinking of reloading the model.. then having a list of gl transforms to add to each part |
| 21:42.30 | Santa | but not for bzflag |
| 21:42.43 | Patlabor221 | that would be object animation |
| 21:42.51 | hardwire | ok |
| 21:42.52 | Patlabor221 | I don't know what would support exporting that |
| 21:42.58 | hardwire | well.. gee.. thanks for clearing that up :) |
| 21:43.06 | Patlabor221 | you could poralby get it as a set of bone transfroms |
| 21:43.10 | hardwire | who would have figured it would be an object I was animating :) |
| 21:43.21 | Patlabor221 | you know you don't have to be an ass |
| 21:43.24 | hardwire | no no |
| 21:43.27 | hardwire | I am just joking around |
| 21:43.37 | hardwire | jesus.. shoot me (/me says in #bzflag) |
| 21:43.50 | Patlabor221 | does blender suport a bone animation system? |
| 21:43.53 | Patlabor221 | or any at all? |
| 21:43.58 | hardwire | it supports IKA |
| 21:44.12 | Patlabor221 | then it must have some bone support |
| 21:44.16 | hardwire | yes |
| 21:44.19 | hardwire | and python support |
| 21:44.22 | Patlabor221 | if you tied a single object to each bone |
| 21:44.28 | hardwire | I can take an animatino then output a preloadable animation list |
| 21:44.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:44.50 | Patlabor221 | tho that makes the seams look like chit. |
| 21:45.04 | Patlabor221 | object animation is rarely done these days |
| 21:45.13 | Patlabor221 | it's all ether bone or vertex animation |
| 21:45.24 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:45.29 | hardwire | when does it use hitank models? |
| 21:45.36 | Patlabor221 | when you are very close |
| 21:45.55 | hardwire | [-(Mon 2002-12-16 14:51:25)-(~/inst/bzflag-1.7g0/)-]> cat src/geometry/models/hitank/body.c (hardwire @ BastarD) |
| 21:45.55 | hardwire | glBegin(GL_TRIANGLE_STRIP); |
| 21:45.55 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.55 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.55 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.56 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.58 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.00 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.04 | hardwire | glEnd(); |
| 21:46.06 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:46.08 | hardwire | thats all I have in it |
| 21:46.10 | hardwire | just recompiled from a clean |
| 21:46.12 | hardwire | and the tank is still quite.. there |
| 21:46.21 | Patlabor221 | I have hightank as an obj file if you want it. |
| 21:46.43 | hardwire | ahhhh |
| 21:46.46 | hardwire | body != turret |
| 21:46.50 | hardwire | it has no guts! |
| 21:46.56 | hardwire | good.. that load worked :) |
| 21:47.07 | hardwire | sure.. I would love the obj file |
| 21:47.15 | hardwire | email or web? |
| 21:47.38 | Patlabor221 | I think I have it posted up on web |
| 21:47.39 | Patlabor221 | one sec |
| 21:49.13 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/bz/tank.zip |
| 21:49.27 | Patlabor221 | ahh there's mr. happy hover tank |
| 21:49.30 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/hover1.jpg |
| 21:49.38 | hardwire | danke |
| 21:50.34 | hardwire | 305 faces now |
| 21:50.41 | hardwire | still too many |
| 21:50.50 | hardwire | gonna recreate from lower res primitives |
| 21:51.03 | Patlabor221 | ick just say no to prims :) |
| 21:51.12 | hardwire | well |
| 21:51.18 | Santa | how is 305 tris too many? |
| 21:51.21 | hardwire | I am not gonna create something from a single vertice |
| 21:51.24 | Patlabor221 | it's not |
| 21:51.28 | Patlabor221 | it's just prims |
| 21:52.23 | Patlabor221 | ohh god I still have this...... |
| 21:52.24 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/psudotank1a.jpg |
| 21:52.50 | Santa | Patlabor221: its a shame you miss out on the looks that we get from all the gamedev club folks |
| 21:53.11 | Patlabor221 | I can imagene them, seeing what they are working on. |
| 21:53.53 | Patlabor221 | wow I realy have to clean out my web's root folder |
| 21:53.54 | hardwire | neat hover tank |
| 21:54.11 | Patlabor221 | still got anchent stuff like this |
| 21:54.12 | Patlabor221 | http://www.artemisgames.com/skin1-2.jpg |
| 21:55.32 | hardwire | when recreating the models.. what should I touch to redo things |
| 21:55.55 | Patlabor221 | what do you mean? |
| 21:56.07 | hardwire | sorry |
| 21:56.09 | hardwire | brain no worky |
| 21:56.20 | hardwire | I should touch the tank scene cxx |
| 21:56.30 | Santa | yeah - its scary tho |
| 21:56.34 | hardwire | heh |
| 21:56.43 | Patlabor221 | well your gonna have to change the model, proalby the texture, and the tank boundihng box |
| 21:56.43 | hardwire | # touch Santa |
| 21:56.52 | hardwire | yeh |
| 21:57.42 | hardwire | awwwww yeah |
| 21:57.44 | Patlabor221 | you could hook up the CAnimModel class and load Quake3 and Unreal models :) |
| 21:57.47 | Santa | grrrr |
| 21:57.50 | Santa | fedex is being naughty |
| 21:58.01 | hardwire | Patlabor221: ? no way |
| 21:58.01 | hardwire | haha |
| 21:58.17 | hardwire | quake3 model runs around with laser |
| 21:58.27 | hardwire | well.. it loaded |
| 21:58.39 | hardwire | needs to be a bit smaller now.. and rotated :) |
| 21:58.58 | hardwire | and then I need to segregate the part thingies |
| 21:59.30 | hardwire | I wish I could use quads |
| 21:59.38 | Patlabor221 | you can |
| 21:59.44 | hardwire | unless you have an obj to C converter |
| 21:59.50 | hardwire | this blender export script is no worky well |
| 21:59.58 | Patlabor221 | I have an OBJ renderer :) |
| 22:00.08 | hardwire | blender can render objs :) |
| 22:00.11 | Patlabor221 | CAnimModel will read OBJ's too |
| 22:00.17 | Patlabor221 | in code I mean |
| 22:00.23 | hardwire | hmm |
| 22:00.27 | Patlabor221 | you could make bz read from a file |
| 22:00.28 | hardwire | well.. blah :) |
| 22:00.32 | hardwire | true that |
| 22:00.36 | hardwire | that would be handy |
| 22:00.49 | hardwire | but.. lemme export the model and see if it even looks alright first |
| 22:01.42 | sussudio | riiight....... |
| 22:01.42 | sussudio | Internal Server Error |
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| 22:02.05 | Patlabor221 | you could run around as one of these :) |
| 22:02.05 | Patlabor221 | http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/info/ut/jarhead/jarhead.shtml |
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| 22:06.39 | m0nkeyb0y | morning! |
| 22:06.43 | Santa | 'lo m0nkeyb0y |
| 22:06.54 | m0nkeyb0y | lo proton |
| 22:16.14 | hardwire | hehe |
| 22:16.15 | hardwire | this is fun |
| 22:21.50 | JAH | does it work? |
| 22:22.38 | hardwire | sorta |
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| 22:24.43 | hardwire | sorta hard to get normal rotation on the objects |
| 22:28.27 | hardwire | damn buggy nvidia |
| 22:28.29 | hardwire | blah |
| 22:28.29 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:38.11 | hardwire | well |
| 22:38.13 | hardwire | this will have to wait |
| 22:38.17 | hardwire | work thinks I need to do something |
| 22:42.03 | Patlabor221 | damn now I have to get a new DSL provider |
| 22:43.03 | hardwire | something I did?.. sorry.. :( |
| 22:43.32 | Patlabor221 | well unless you caused DirectTVInternet to think they no longer havea viable market, then no |
| 22:45.34 | sussudio | http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/latest.jpg |
| 22:50.01 | Patlabor221 | well at least now I can get 256k up instead of 128 |
| 23:01.03 | bzdoug | hmm, thats nice |
| 23:03.26 | bzdoug | webzip works better than websnake |
| 23:05.47 | Santa | wtf is webzip? |
| 23:06.45 | sussudio | probably some 'freeware' that installs some ass-raping trojans on doug's system |
| 23:08.07 | Patlabor221 | it's a web spider for leeching sites |
| 23:09.31 | bzdoug | uh huh |
| 23:09.44 | bzdoug | and it will even zip the whole thing |
| 23:10.06 | bzdoug | hmm, bleach hurts on paper cuts |
| 23:10.20 | Patlabor221 | try electricity I hear it's better |
| 23:10.27 | sussudio | you mean like wget -m doughecka.sucks.org | pkzip32 -add -move -directories -recurse doughecka.sucks.org *.* |
| 23:10.42 | bzdoug | sussudio: yup |
| 23:10.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah it does all that on windows |
| 23:11.04 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 23:19.44 | bzdoug | how would I go about whats the Machine gun command line? |
| 23:19.48 | bzdoug | GRR |
| 23:19.55 | bzdoug | whats the Machine gun command line? |
| 23:20.14 | Patlabor221 | c:\ dududududududududududududu boom |
| 23:20.25 | Santa | hehe |
| 23:20.34 | Patlabor221 | or if you want version 1 |
| 23:20.59 | Patlabor221 | c:\bak\rattatatatatatatatatatatatatatatta -splut "1" |
| 23:21.40 | Patlabor221 | or on windows ME c:\bak\~ratta1 |
| 23:21.59 | Santa | you mean C:\BAK\RATTA~1 |
| 23:24.24 | bzdoug | hmmm |
| 23:24.33 | bzdoug | const float GMissileAng = M_PI / 999.0f; |
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| 23:27.06 | Patlabor221 | mmmmm pie |
| 23:27.15 | bzdoug | type? |
| 23:27.44 | Patlabor221 | pie is pie |
| 23:27.57 | Patlabor221 | mmmm flakey pie |
| 23:28.24 | Patlabor221 | but only some times |
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| 23:32.39 | bzdoug | can anyone get to http://heckaman.bzflag.org/time.jpg ? |
| 23:34.17 | Santa | yes |
| 23:34.26 | Patlabor221 | what did you doo to that poor game |
| 23:38.56 | bzdoug | :) |
| 23:39.20 | bzdoug | you should see shockwave |
| 23:39.32 | Patlabor221 | shoudl report you to the SPOFUVG |
| 23:39.37 | bzdoug | problem is it takes 60 seconds to reload |
| 23:39.43 | bzdoug | the what? |
| 23:40.06 | Patlabor221 | Society for the Prevention Of F**king Up Video Games |
| 23:40.08 | bzdoug | hmm, 188 seconds |
| 23:40.23 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: ah, and you are part of it? |
| 23:40.27 | Patlabor221 | aka Munchkins anonymous. |
| 23:40.44 | bzdoug | ah |
| 23:40.49 | Patlabor221 | I'm a the presedent AND a member :) |
| 23:41.01 | bzdoug | ah |
| 23:41.10 | bzdoug | and the or a member? |
| 23:41.16 | sussudio | ibot spell presedent |
| 23:41.16 | | possible spellings for presedent: precedent president |
| 23:41.47 | Patlabor221 | el heffe |
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| 23:47.38 | bzdoug | hotbot is back! |
| 23:50.26 | bzdoug | bzfquery ducativtf |
| 23:50.35 | bzdoug | bzfquery ducatictf |
| 23:50.43 | BZFlag | ~ducatictf |
| 23:50.48 | bzdoug | ~bzfquery ducativtf |
| 23:50.55 | bzdoug | ~bzfquery ducatictf |
| 23:51.00 | bzdoug | hum |
| 23:51.20 | bzdoug | how does one setup a shortcut? |
| 23:51.32 | bzdoug | ? |
| 23:51.36 | BZFlag | ~literal ducatictf |
| 23:51.36 | | ducatictf is <reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 23:51.40 | bzdoug | ~bzflist |
| 23:51.43 | bzdoug | ahh |
| 23:51.48 | bzdoug | I see |
| 23:52.35 | bzdoug | ~rot |
| 23:53.15 | BZFlag | that was a useless alias. |
| 23:53.18 | scanline | this cheat server I set up has gotten rather weird... |
| 23:53.26 | bzdoug | scanline: what cheat server??!?!?! |
| 23:53.39 | scanline | navi.picogui.org.. I set it up to test this flight-sim patch I wrote |
| 23:53.43 | BZFlag | ibot rot $what is <reply> see rot13 $what |
| 23:53.44 | | okay, BZFlag |
| 23:53.44 | bzdoug | oh? |
| 23:53.50 | BZFlag | rot this is a test |
| 23:53.52 | BZFlag | ~rot this is a test |
| 23:53.54 | | see rot13 this is a test |
| 23:53.59 | BZFlag | hehe |
| 23:53.59 | scanline | and now it's full of people projecting shockwaves to random parts of the map :) |
| 23:54.02 | bzdoug | cool |
| 23:54.16 | bzdoug | scanline: could you give me your patch? |
| 23:54.18 | BZFlag | ~rot13 this is a test |
| 23:54.18 | | guvf vf n grfg |
| 23:54.29 | bzdoug | ah |
| 23:54.38 | scanline | if you really want it I guess |
| 23:54.46 | scanline | just a sec |
| 23:55.23 | scanline | https://navi.picogui.org:3000/~micah/flight-simulator.patch.gz |
| 23:55.45 | scanline | it does break collision detection a little.. you can get stuck on walls |
| 23:55.58 | bzdoug | brb |
| 23:56.02 | bzdoug | k |
| 23:58.28 | *** join/#bzflag baddmove (~1878766c@chat.ircnet.org) |
| 23:59.08 | scanline | Santa: I'd kick if I knew how |
