irclog2html for #bzflag on 20030114

`00:00.40`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`00:01.11`	`TimRiker`	`shot flag mismatch 20 14`
`00:01.11`	`TimRiker`	`shot lifetime mismatch 3.000000 3.500000`
`00:02.17`	`Patlabor221`	`hmmm`
`00:05.29`	`Patlabor221`	`did it send a "gimee a flag" message?`
`00:08.00`	`TimRiker`	`not that the server rejected, and I did not see one on you tank, so I assume it did not send one that was accepted either.`
`00:11.40`	`Patlabor221`	`odd`
`00:31.28`	`TimRiker`	`humorous.`
`00:31.42`	`TimRiker`	`pick a server (other than one) and I'll show you my latest cheat.`
`00:32.06`	`TimRiker`	`StrongBad?`
`00:32.15`	`StrongBad`	`stongbad`
`00:32.23`	`StrongBad`	`character at homestarrunner.com`
`00:32.41`	`StrongBad`	`you have a cheat?`
`00:33.20`	`StrongBad`	`noodleroni is clear`
`00:33.31`	`TimRiker`	`noodle then.`
`00:33.37`	`StrongBad`	`5157`
`00:33.57`	`StrongBad`	`if I can get in then`
`00:35.08`	`StrongBad`	`wow`
`00:35.13`	`StrongBad`	`suppa insta death`
`00:35.40`	`StrongBad`	`that could realy ruin your day`
`00:36.15`	`TimRiker`	`funny?`
`00:36.19`	`StrongBad`	`vyer`
`00:36.22`	`StrongBad`	`very`
`00:37.06`	`StrongBad`	`I asume you can't pull crap like that on one?`
`00:38.46`	`TimRiker`	`yep, the protect on onw works.`
`00:38.51`	`StrongBad`	`cool`
`00:39.24`	`Patlabor221`	`wow there are some realy talented texture artists out there on the net`
`00:40.28`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/tallblue_2bshort_fin.png`
`00:40.44`	`Patlabor221`	`and http://www.bakadigital.com/tallblue_5_bfin.png`
`00:44.54`	`TimRiker`	`Patlabor221: join on the hack server...`
`00:44.58`	`Patlabor221`	`k`
`00:45.32`	`Patlabor221`	`can't`
`00:45.37`	`Patlabor221`	`get a connection error`
`00:46.10`	`TimRiker`	`oh, try now.`
`00:46.39`	`Patlabor221`	`kinghtmare right?`
`00:46.43`	`Patlabor221`	`or one?`
`00:47.21`	`Patlabor221`	`can't get to knightmare`
`00:51.48`	`stibnite`	`uggh. bzfs 1.7g0 seems to be freaking out rather frequently now`
`00:54.45`	`stibnite`	`the cpu usage`
`00:55.11`	`stibnite`	`is this a nkown bug yet? i built it from FreeBSD ports.`
`00:57.11`	`Patlabor221`	`I've heard of CPU usage issues only on windows`
`00:57.14`	`Patlabor221`	`cap you here?`
`00:57.40`	`*** join/#bzflag rae (~rae@CPE0f0049806907.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`00:58.16`	`Patlabor221`	`can anyone look at BackgroundRenderer.cxx like 881 and tell me that I'm not on crack and float uv[2] is used before it's initalised?`
`00:59.23`	`stibnite`	`hrm. well bzfs has twice ballooned and used all available processor on an otherwise well-behaved freebsd box in the last 18 hours`
`01:00.00`	`Patlabor221`	`wonder if the exploits make the server use too much time too`
`01:00.19`	`stibnite`	`not sure. normal usage even for 15 players is 0.10%`
`01:00.28`	`stibnite`	`it's using 55% now.`
`01:00.41`	`Patlabor221`	`hmmm`
`01:00.45`	`*** join/#bzflag proton-onyx2 (~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)`
`01:00.49`	`Patlabor221`	`there he is`
`01:00.54`	`stibnite`	`what debug flags should i give bzfs in order to get you some useful output?`
`01:01.07`	`TimRiker`	`stibnite: g0? I think there was a cpu issue with it. try cvs instead.`
`01:01.09`	`Patlabor221`	`-d -d -d -d will give the most`
`01:01.23`	`stibnite`	`ok, i will. tx Tim`
`01:01.29`	`TimRiker`	`yep`
`01:02.46`	`rae`	`I'm uploading a new version of BZFlag for MacOS X to SourceForge`
`01:02.58`	`proton-onyx2`	`TimRiker: 'tis a shame you don't live closeby - the viz screen is something to see`
`01:03.05`	`rae`	`I called the release 1.7g0r6 to make it clear that is succeeds the previous versions`
`01:03.22`	`TimRiker`	`rae: sweet.`
`01:03.31`	`TimRiker`	`proton-onyx2: where's closeby? ;-)`
`01:03.35`	`rae`	`It has a couple of bug fixes -- the function keys (F1-F15) all work, and maps are cached.`
`01:03.51`	`proton-onyx2`	`TimRiker: boulder, CO`
`01:11.27`	`*** join/#bzflag rae (~rae@CPE0f0049806907.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`01:16.39`	`Patlabor221`	`there it is GetGroundUV`
`01:17.23`	`*** join/#bzflag scan[vizlab] (~micah@aden2-241-dhcp.Colorado.EDU)`
`01:35.32`	`Patlabor221`	`replacing textures is fun :)`
`01:45.59`	`Patlabor221`	`what do you think?`
`01:46.00`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/newtex.png`
`02:13.46`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`02:13.50`	`bzdoug_`	`cool`
`02:13.51`	`bzdoug_`	`I like it`
`02:14.26`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh good your here, I need to replace one file then I need to see if the list serv works`
`02:14.37`	`bzdoug_`	`on`
`02:14.39`	`bzdoug_`	`oh`
`02:14.44`	`bzdoug_`	`ok`
`02:16.23`	`bzdoug_`	`brb`
`02:17.21`	`bzdoug_`	`did you fix the linux thing?`
`02:17.45`	`Patlabor221`	`I think so`
`02:18.14`	`bzdoug_`	`k`
`02:22.43`	`stibnite`	`sigh. I was a much better admin before bzflag.`
`02:22.52`	`bzdoug_`	`lol`
`02:23.38`	`bzdoug_`	`http://heck.no-ip.com/bzflag/laser.JPG`
`02:23.41`	`bzdoug_`	`pretty`
`02:24.03`	`stibnite`	`wow`
`02:24.23`	`stibnite`	`that IS pretty`
`02:24.41`	`*** join/#bzflag scan[vizlab] (~micah@wireless-218.cs.colorado.edu)`
`02:24.54`	`stibnite`	`wow it hasn't broken yet`
`02:24.59`	`stibnite`	`that's amazing`
`02:27.42`	`scan[vizlab]`	`poing`
`02:27.48`	`stibnite`	`hrm. it died.`
`02:29.49`	`stibnite`	LinuxPlatformMediaFactory.cxx:282: implicit declaration of function `int kill(...)'
`02:30.33`	`stibnite`	`hrm, but it did make bzfs which is all i really needed anyway!`
`02:32.05`	`stibnite`	`uggh. no good.`
`02:38.39`	`Patlabor221`	`douglasssss!!!!`
`02:38.43`	`bzdoug_`	`yea?`
`02:38.46`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/zero/`
`02:38.54`	`bzdoug_`	`(perfect timing)`
`02:38.56`	`Patlabor221`	`get it and see if 1) you can se my server`
`02:38.59`	`bzdoug_`	`k`
`02:39.13`	`Patlabor221`	`2) if you can't see if you can get to bakadigital.com:5155`
`02:39.24`	`Patlabor221`	`3) start a public server and see if it shows`
`02:39.27`	`bzdoug_`	`k`
`02:39.33`	`Patlabor221`	`4) ogggle the purdy textures`
`02:39.39`	`bzdoug_`	`lol`
`02:39.59`	`bzdoug_`	`~lart db`
`02:40.11`	`scan[vizlab]`	`hmm`
`02:40.25`	`Jormungandr`	`does bzflag work with ipv6 yet?`
`02:40.25`	`bzdoug_`	`ooh`
`02:40.26`	`Jormungandr`	`:)`
`02:40.29`	`bzdoug_`	`ugly icon`
`02:40.44`	`prot[vizlab]`	`Jormungandr: nope`
`02:42.04`	`bzdoug_`	`hm`
`02:42.11`	`bzdoug_`	`Patlabor221: it dont show up in the find server thing`
`02:42.21`	`bzdoug_`	`but it works when manually typed in`
`02:42.37`	`bzdoug_`	`and the textures are very slick :)`
`02:43.50`	`bzdoug_`	`the list server never contacts me`
`02:43.51`	`bzdoug_`	`:(`
`02:43.54`	`bzdoug_`	`somethings broken`
`02:44.10`	`bzdoug_`	`like this..`
`02:44.33`	`bzdoug_`	`er`
`02:44.37`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm, lemme fix that`
`02:45.37`	`bzdoug_`	`nope`
`02:45.43`	`bzdoug_`	`it dont show up in the list`
`02:45.54`	`bzdoug_`	`while my e6 server does show up in the list`
`02:46.54`	`bzdoug_`	`Patlabor221: ya there`
`02:46.54`	`bzdoug_`	`?`
`02:47.15`	`bzdoug_`	`Jormungandr: what for?`
`02:48.01`	`Jormungandr`	`doug, I have new hybrid-7 irc server, and am gunna hook it up to a v6 network.`
`02:48.14`	`bzdoug_`	`cool`
`02:48.18`	`bzdoug_`	`shot over speed 115506.297362 100025.000000`
`02:48.34`	`Jormungandr`	`that pic was pretty cool, re: laser`
`02:48.39`	`bzdoug_`	`heh`
`02:48.49`	`bzdoug_`	`I made the lasers stick longer`
`02:48.51`	`bzdoug_`	`ADD 216.135.68.133 1 BZXFS01x1 002e00c800320000000000000000000000c800c800c800c80`
`02:48.51`	`bzdoug_`	`0c800000000000000000000 bzdougs_wacky_PERFECTCIRCLE_map`
`02:48.55`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't think thelist serv works the way Tim thinks it`
`02:49.02`	`bzdoug_`	`oh`
`02:49.11`	`Patlabor221`	`or it thinks 0 is a bad version number`
`02:49.15`	`Patlabor221`	`I have to look into it.`
`02:49.16`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`02:49.26`	`bzdoug_`	`your using tims bzflist?`
`02:49.29`	`bzdoug_`	`or your own?`
`02:50.14`	`bzdoug_`	`I set the server for your server`
`02:50.18`	`bzdoug_`	`not tims`
`02:50.43`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh I'm not running a server any more`
`02:50.52`	`Patlabor221`	`my list_server.txt points to him now`
`02:50.52`	`bzdoug_`	`oooh`
`02:50.56`	`Patlabor221`	`or at least it should`
`02:50.56`	`bzdoug_`	`oh`
`02:50.58`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`02:51.58`	`bzdoug_`	`http://204.228.134.186:5156/`
`02:52.03`	`bzdoug_`	`I dont see it`
`02:52.16`	`bzdoug_`	`oh`
`02:52.17`	`bzdoug_`	`I Do`
`02:52.22`	`bzdoug_`	`3rd one down`
`02:52.24`	`Patlabor221`	`it shold not show up in thelist of the others`
`02:52.33`	`bzdoug_`	`216.135.68.133:5155 BZFS107e 002e0fa00064000000000000000100000fa00fa00fa00fa00fa000000000000000000000 216.135.68.133 bzdougs_wacky_PERFECTCIRCLE_map`
`02:52.41`	`bzdoug_`	`says its 107e server`
`02:52.43`	`bzdoug_`	`not g0`
`02:52.43`	`Patlabor221`	`let me see if I see it`
`02:53.09`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm there must still be some issues`
`02:53.14`	`bzdoug_`	`indeed`
`02:53.32`	`bzdoug_`	`the server thinks its still 1.7e`
`02:53.35`	`bzdoug_`	`hm`
`02:53.47`	`Patlabor221`	`does it show to normal clients?`
`02:53.55`	`bzdoug_`	`~bzflist`
`02:54.25`	`bzdoug_`	`yup`
`02:54.29`	`bzdoug_`	`it shows up in there`
`02:54.30`	`bzdoug_`	`:(`
`02:54.36`	`bzdoug_`	`but if I try to connect..`
`02:54.39`	`bzdoug_`	`it says bad version`
`02:55.00`	`Patlabor221`	`well pooopy`
`02:55.05`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm, I will leave the server running`
`02:55.09`	`Patlabor221`	`why does it show up there?`
`02:55.12`	`Patlabor221`	`damn`
`02:55.13`	`Patlabor221`	`ok seya`
`02:55.14`	`bzdoug_`	`oh?`
`02:55.37`	`bzdoug_`	`it shows up in there cuz the client sees it as a normal server`
`02:55.53`	`bzdoug_`	`the server has something switched wrng`
`02:55.59`	`Patlabor221`	`I replaced the flipin version I know I did`
`02:56.04`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm,`
`02:56.08`	`bzdoug_`	`maybe there is 2 versions`
`02:56.21`	`bzdoug_`	`one for the bzlist, and one for client connections`
`02:56.32`	`bzdoug_`	`thats what it looks like to me... :)`
`02:57.01`	`bzdoug_`	`~nsquery 216.135.68.133`
`02:57.23`	`bzdoug_`	`thats me`
`02:57.33`	`bzdoug_`	`ooh`
`02:57.39`	`bzdoug_`	`I was trying to connect to it`
`02:57.46`	`bzdoug_`	`with the reg client`
`02:57.47`	`bzdoug_`	`accept() from 216.135.68.133:1320 on 1884`
`02:58.10`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm,k cya`
`02:58.17`	`bzdoug_`	`someone connected`
`02:58.32`	`prot[vizlab]`	`lurgyman: welcome back to reality!`
`02:58.50`	`lurgyman`	`prot[vizlab]: good morning`
`02:59.11`	`bzdoug_`	`GOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!`
`02:59.29`	`lurgyman`	`ok robin...`
`02:59.30`	`lurgyman`	`:-p`
`02:59.36`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`02:59.37`	`bzdoug_`	`odd`
`02:59.55`	`bzdoug_`	`ADD 216.135.68.133 1 BZXFS01x1 002e00c800320000000000000000000000c800c800c800c800c800000000000022006877 bzdougs_wacky_PERFECTCIRCLE_map`
`02:59.56`	`bzdoug_`	`see?`
`03:00.02`	`bzdoug_`	`it says its the correct version`
`03:00.09`	`bzdoug_`	`so I think its the list`
`03:00.12`	`bzdoug_`	`not the server`
`03:00.54`	`Patlabor221`	`no the realease mode for the server is busted`
`03:01.00`	`bzdoug_`	`oh`
`03:01.00`	`bzdoug_`	`ok`
`03:01.02`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`03:01.33`	`Patlabor221`	`it sends the text of the right version`
`03:01.37`	`Patlabor221`	`but not the binary`
`03:01.41`	`bzdoug_`	`oh`
`03:02.19`	`lurgyman`	`prot[vizlab]: your dad wants to know if you'd had any success changing your meal plan`
`03:02.55`	`Patlabor221`	`oooo prot[vizlab] is in TROUBLEEEEE :)`
`03:03.03`	`prot[vizlab]`	`lurgyman: he's on the phone right now?`
`03:03.08`	`lurgyman`	`prot[vizlab]: he was`
`03:03.14`	`prot[vizlab]`	`ah`
`03:03.14`	`lurgyman`	`not any more`
`03:03.23`	`lurgyman`	`call him when you get to a phone`
`03:03.28`	`prot[vizlab]`	`willdo`
`03:08.40`	`Patlabor221`	`well I hope the list server works now`
`03:09.22`	`Patlabor221`	`cap: wana build BZFlag:Zero and see if it works on the sterio tank?`
`03:09.30`	`prot[vizlab]`	`Patlabor221: sure`
`03:09.46`	`Patlabor221`	`oooo can you unzip?`
`03:09.57`	`scan[vizlab]`	`we can use the 1/1000th of a CPU that's free`
`03:10.03`	`Patlabor221`	`on yee olde SGI?`
`03:10.06`	`prot[vizlab]`	`Patlabor221: unzip is questionable`
`03:10.18`	`Patlabor221`	`rar?`
`03:10.20`	`prot[vizlab]`	`right scan[vizlab] ?`
`03:10.23`	`prot[vizlab]`	`Patlabor221: uh`
`03:10.26`	`prot[vizlab]`	`can you do tar.gz?`
`03:10.26`	`scan[vizlab]`	`rarrrr`
`03:10.28`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`03:10.41`	`prot[vizlab]`	`lemme see if i can install unzip`
`03:10.52`	`Patlabor221`	`no leeeeeenox here, my laptop has it's gak win 98 drive in it`
`03:10.58`	`scan[vizlab]`	`Patlabor221: what, you're new-fangled Windows XP 2000 ++ Visual Professional edition can't make a simple .tar.gz?`
`03:11.18`	`Patlabor221`	`I may be able to I just don't know how`
`03:11.19`	`scan[vizlab]`	`Get ye rear end over to a cygwin installer`
`03:11.20`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm looking`
`03:11.26`	`prot[vizlab]`	`the preferred development environment can't do a tar.gz??`
`03:11.49`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah because zip is the prefered compresion format :)`
`03:12.04`	`Patlabor221`	`your silly format has 2 extensions :)`
`03:12.51`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh I know I have bzip2 here somewhere`
`03:13.07`	`prot[vizlab]`	`Patlabor221: whatever, i just installed unzip`
`03:13.17`	`prot[vizlab]`	`so go ahead and use your silly "compression"`
`03:13.33`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/zero`
`03:13.38`	`Patlabor221`	`there is a src link`
`03:14.24`	`Patlabor221`	`how is Pico SGI commin?`
`03:14.49`	`prot[vizlab]`	`pgserver is compiled`
`03:14.53`	`prot[vizlab]`	`we're working on getting jetstream up`
`03:15.03`	`Patlabor221`	`cooooooo`
`03:15.29`	`prot[vizlab]`	`and apparently the picogui theme compiler is unhappy with big-endian machines :)`
`03:15.47`	`Patlabor221`	`no 68k macs for it then`
`03:16.05`	`Patlabor221`	`I hope I made the right changes to the make fiels`
`03:18.14`	`prot[vizlab]`	`nice speedy connection =/`
`03:18.21`	`scan[vizlab]`	`well, themec seems to be working fine on this PPC laptop`
`03:18.30`	`scan[vizlab]`	`but on the Onyx... bus error...`
`03:18.46`	`Patlabor221`	`PPC is little endian isn't it?`
`03:18.50`	`scan[vizlab]`	`no`
`03:18.55`	`Patlabor221`	`odd then`
`03:19.08`	`scan[vizlab]`	`most systems are big endian, except intel :P`
`03:19.26`	`Patlabor221`	`god I hope that wasn't me and tim that screwed up the peopel on noodleman`
`03:19.31`	`scan[vizlab]`	`MIPS can go either way, but it's usually used as big-endian`
`03:24.37`	`HPP`	`Hrm.. Is it normal for the display on a CVS build of bzflag (The client) to be screwed up?`
`03:26.37`	`Patlabor221`	`define screwed up`
`03:27.20`	`HPP`	`hehe. It'd difficult to describe -- Only part of the screen displays new data`
`03:27.59`	`Patlabor221`	`shouldn't be`
`03:28.12`	`HPP`	`..And, currently, when running bzflag (CVS version), I get a black screen`
`03:28.20`	`HPP`	`...No errors, just no display`
`03:28.32`	`Patlabor221`	`what OS?`
`03:28.32`	`HPP`	`I have to use F12 to get out`
`03:28.34`	`HPP`	`Linux`
`03:28.38`	`HPP`	`Debian Linux`
`03:28.42`	`Patlabor221`	`and G0 works fine?`
`03:28.57`	`HPP`	`yeah`
`03:28.57`	`*** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@aden2-123-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)`
`03:29.42`	`Patlabor221`	`odd`
`03:29.51`	`Patlabor221`	`trying it now`
`03:29.56`	`HPP`	`Indeed. I think I'll update the CVS dir`
`03:30.06`	`HPP`	`..I built it the night before last`
`03:30.07`	`prot[vizlab]`	HPP: try `make clean; make`
`03:30.24`	`HPP`	`OK`
`03:30.37`	`HPP`	`I think I'll play with g0 for awhile first ;)`
`03:30.38`	`Patlabor221`	`ok these new textures for the outer wall and teleporter are REALY nice in BZ:0`
`03:30.52`	`scan[vizlab]`	`got a screenshot?`
`03:31.17`	`Patlabor221`	`the telporter is visiable on the screeny at http://www.bakadigital.com/zero`
`03:31.33`	`Patlabor221`	`as is the new boxwall`
`03:31.44`	`Patlabor221`	`have a prefect one for bases too`
`03:31.45`	`scan[vizlab]`	`gee, you like them crystal icons`
`03:32.06`	`Patlabor221`	`mettal decking with paint flecked off in the team color`
`03:32.08`	`Patlabor221`	`yes I do`
`03:32.11`	`Patlabor221`	`they are realy clean`
`03:32.16`	`scan[vizlab]`	`the grass is too blurry... you should try making it repeat more`
`03:32.16`	`Patlabor221`	`realy realy clean`
`03:32.30`	`Patlabor221`	`it's allready 100 times more then normal bz`
`03:32.32`	`Patlabor221`	`but yes`
`03:32.37`	`Patlabor221`	`and well it's not grass`
`03:32.39`	`prot[vizlab]`	`with realy good speeling!`
`03:32.44`	`Patlabor221`	`it's green concrete`
`03:32.49`	`scan[vizlab]`	`hah`
`03:32.57`	`Patlabor221`	`I didn't want to change the color and freak eveyone else out`
`03:33.00`	`Patlabor221`	`not all at once`
`03:33.11`	`Patlabor221`	`yes I suck at typing and spelling`
`03:33.27`	`scan[vizlab]`	`I'd say the two biggest icky-textures still are the "grass" and the clouds`
`03:33.27`	`Patlabor221`	`and at other things`
`03:33.34`	`Patlabor221`	`but only when she buys dinner`
`03:33.42`	`Patlabor221`	`yes I have new clouds`
`03:33.51`	`Patlabor221`	`and that is a new ground texture`
`03:33.57`	`scan[vizlab]`	`The whiteish splotches are nice on the brick, but they repeat too often`
`03:33.57`	`Patlabor221`	`just hard to see in the green`
`03:34.16`	`Patlabor221`	`you should have seenit before I made them repeat 4 times less`
`03:34.31`	`Patlabor221`	`hey constructive comments are allways good`
`03:34.38`	`scan[vizlab]`	`:)`
`03:34.51`	`Patlabor221`	`derv dosn't seem to understand that tho`
`03:35.27`	`Patlabor221`	`I realy want the map to secify the ground texture and it's color`
`03:35.42`	`Patlabor221`	`along with the mountans and the sky if it wants`
`03:35.54`	`Patlabor221`	`if it dosn't spec one then the current BZ suff will be used`
`03:36.33`	`scan[vizlab]`	`how about just specify textures for each box in the map`
`03:36.33`	`Patlabor221`	`same for building textures`
`03:36.38`	`Patlabor221`	`yes that too`
`03:36.41`	`scan[vizlab]`	`or... make the boxes really thin`
`03:36.48`	`scan[vizlab]`	`or replace them with triangles`
`03:37.00`	`scan[vizlab]`	`and... you could build anything!`
`03:37.04`	`Patlabor221`	`that makes collisions harder`
`03:37.08`	`scan[vizlab]`	`heck, just make it import Quake 3 levels`
`03:37.10`	`Patlabor221`	`with the current system`
`03:37.23`	`scan[vizlab]`	`who needs collisions, just give everyone a permanent OO flag`
`03:37.23`	`Patlabor221`	`and replace the tank with women in hotpants?`
`03:37.36`	`scan[vizlab]`	`hey, it's a fork.. get crazy!`
`03:37.41`	`Patlabor221`	`change GM to "rocket launcher" :)`
`03:37.55`	`scan[vizlab]`	`before you know it.. it's a BZFlag mod for Q3A`
`03:37.59`	`Patlabor221`	`bouncy grenades like Q1 wol be nice`
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`03:38.11`	`scan[vizlab]`	`you need the Q1 style messages`
`03:38.16`	`scan[vizlab]`	`* scanline ate Patlabor221's pineapple`
`03:38.30`	`scan[vizlab]`	`ah, Q1 was so cool`
`03:38.30`	`Patlabor221`	`I allways winced when I heard that metalic "dink" near me`
`03:38.51`	`Patlabor221`	`I remember playing LAN here and poping some grenades down a hole, and watching a head fly up`
`03:39.12`	`Patlabor221`	`and then a guy in an office here going "DAMIT!!!!"`
`03:40.34`	`Patlabor221`	`and the player model had both weps in it too.`
`03:40.44`	`scan[vizlab]`	`I think at first it was just a couple of us at my house playing Q1 or Q2... then I somehow convinced gonkulator to hold a LAN party at his house.. a really big one`
`03:40.47`	`Patlabor221`	`would shrink them down and put them inside the player when you had the other one`
`03:41.14`	`scan[vizlab]`	`ha`
`03:41.21`	`scan[vizlab]`	`kludgarific`
`03:41.41`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`03:41.49`	`Patlabor221`	`all crap vetex animaton too`
`03:42.03`	`Patlabor221`	`each vert was cramed into 3 bytes`
`03:42.11`	`Patlabor221`	`or maybe less`
`03:42.20`	`scan[vizlab]`	`hey, fixed point is da bomb`
`03:43.09`	`Patlabor221`	`Q2 only had +-128 in granularity for x and y`
`03:43.17`	`Patlabor221`	`on all the verts`
`03:43.26`	`Patlabor221`	`and they animated them in that space, it was horid`
`03:44.04`	`Patlabor221`	`hence the jiggly tifa`
`03:46.02`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm CVS works fine for me`
`03:46.08`	`Patlabor221`	`but i'm on winderz`
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`04:08.38`	`Patlabor221`	`well server here is working fine`
`04:08.50`	`Patlabor221`	`don't know if it shows on the list serv or not`
`04:08.52`	`Patlabor221`	`but it works`
`04:08.57`	`Patlabor221`	`time to get some food`
`04:18.58`	`scan[vizlab]`	`captain_proton: hmm.. maybe I should go back to Aden and experiment with getting PerlinDisplacement working?`
`04:21.49`	`rae`	`Okay, the new MacOS X version is now up in BZFlag's "Files" section on SourceForge.`
`04:24.16`	`rae`	`I'm going to get a friend to try downloading+installing before I announce to the Mac world..`
`04:24.51`	`Jormungandr`	`if my video card was better, I'd do it. :)`
`04:24.57`	`Jormungandr`	`soon, hopefully.`
`04:27.16`	`rae`	`What vid card do you have?`
`04:27.20`	`Jormungandr`	`rage pro`
`04:27.25`	`Jormungandr`	`totally sucks for bzflag`
`04:27.26`	`rae`	`Aw, rats.`
`04:27.31`	`rae`	`Ya, I have Rage Pro 128`
`04:27.36`	`rae`	`Juuuust good enough.`
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`04:28.00`	`Jormungandr`	`I'm getting a new one in next few weeks, possibly as a belated christmas present.`
`04:28.09`	`rae`	`Cool. Radeon or GeForce?`
`04:28.21`	`Jormungandr`	`haven't really decided.`
`04:28.22`	`rae`	`Btw, is BZEdit windows-only?`
`04:28.30`	`Jormungandr`	`radeon is 169 bux for 9000`
`04:28.32`	`Patlabor221`	`there are 2 of themn`
`04:28.36`	`Patlabor221`	`one for each OS`
`04:28.48`	`scan[vizlab]`	`heh, there are 2 OSes now?`
`04:28.54`	`Jormungandr`	`there is bzedit that works on linux and one that work on windows`
`04:29.01`	`Patlabor221`	`yes the preferd and he secondary`
`04:29.06`	`scan[vizlab]`	`ha`
`04:29.09`	`Jormungandr`	`heh`
`04:29.15`	`rae`	`Hm, if it works on Linux it should work on MacOS X. Especially now with accellerated X11 from Apple.`
`04:29.34`	`rae`	`Rats, I need GTK+. Thought I had that.`
`04:29.36`	`Patlabor221`	`you would think so, but sadly you are wong`
`04:29.42`	`Patlabor221`	`and gonme`
`04:29.43`	`Jormungandr`	`gprs network in phoenix is dropping out like crazy.`
`04:30.00`	`Patlabor221`	`cap linked it to full on gnome, not just gtk`
`04:31.22`	`rae`	`hssss`
`04:32.00`	`Patlabor221`	`windows one may work under virtual PC or what ever it's called now on the 'tosh`
`04:32.42`	`Patlabor221`	`I think they killt the vislab`
`04:34.52`	`Patlabor221`	`you could try the shudder java bzedit`
`04:36.24`	`rae`	`Hm, Java is pretty fast on OSX..`
`04:36.44`	`rae`	`i was about to port the Linux version over to MacOS X. The Gnome dependancies are pretty minimal, really.`
`04:37.01`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh that's proalby better then`
`04:37.15`	`rae`	`More fun for me.. :-)`
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`05:08.17`	`Patlabor221`	`LOL I like DSL reports speed raiting system, it goes from ugh,slow, barable, ok, fast, faster, rocks, awesome, insane, and "Dude!"`
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`05:21.44`	`Patlabor221`	`is a GM shot called a "tracer"?`
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`07:32.25`	`MrAlfredoCream`	`bzbb?`
`07:34.05`	`MrAlfredoCream`	`heh`
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`07:40.50`	`MrAlfredoCream`	`3,2,1...`
`07:46.54`	`protonioAuGratin`	`hooray for liquid refreshment`
`07:48.40`	`scanline`	`oh yikes`
`07:49.45`	`scanline`	`http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/planet_gone_wrong.png`
`07:50.15`	`lurgyman`	`hmm, musta been hit by a comet`
`07:50.51`	`lurgyman`	`hmmm...`
`07:50.56`	`lurgyman`	`but let's let Mars have it!`
`07:53.34`	`MrAlfredoCream`	`it's SHAMU!!`
`07:55.10`	`MrAlfredoCream`	`response 1 in`
`08:01.30`	`protonioAuGratin`	`oh look`
`08:01.33`	`protonioAuGratin`	`its spiffyboy`
`08:06.20`	`scanline`	`that's one messed up thread...`
`08:13.08`	`scanline`	`hahaha`
`08:13.31`	`MrAlfredoCream`	`scanline: how goes the bz font system rewrite?`
`08:14.08`	`scanline`	`almost done...`
`08:14.11`	`MrAlfredoCream`	`kul`
`08:14.23`	`scanline`	`just have to put the finishing touches on the.. um... build system!`
`08:19.47`	`MrAlfredoCream`	`ibot, seen_TimRikerDinner?`
`08:19.47`		`He's on the desert course.`
`08:43.35`	`Widget`	`.`
`08:43.40`	`protonioAuGratin`	`..`
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`10:58.41`	`secret_ferret`	`oh brilliant I'm ghosted`
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`12:40.22`	`sussudio`	`~lart lagpigs`
`12:51.53`	`Secret_Hamster`	`anyone here know how to build binary rpms from source rpms`
`12:52.31`	`Secret_Hamster`	`I thought is it was "rpm --rebuild --target <arch> src.rpm`
`12:52.51`	`Secret_Hamster`	`but it does not appear to be working`
`12:55.53`	`Secret_Hamster`	`hum big fat no then`
`13:44.38`	`Secret_Hamster`	`hey bzgirl, you didn't play long`
`13:45.06`	`Secret_Hamster`	`me off for lunch`
`14:07.19`	`Secret_Hamster`	`jeez quiet in here today`
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`14:07.50`	`sussudio`	`lagpigs need to be banned from ducati`
`14:10.18`	`Secret_Hamster`	`we need a nice world-wide ATM network`
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`15:05.54`	`Chestal`	`hi bomber`
`15:11.01`	`bomber`	`hi chess`
`15:40.01`	`bomber`	`chess we need referee for match 2 vs 2 How vs penguins`
`15:40.15`	`sussudio`	`why`
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`15:53.48`	`sussudio`	`knopfzellen sortiment!`
`15:54.39`	`Secret_Hamster`	`ya boo sucks to you too`
`15:55.12`	`Secret_Hamster`	`lol`
`15:55.28`	`Secret_Hamster`	`I had a friend at school that did that for a bet`
`15:55.41`	`sussudio`	`mr ulcer?`
`15:56.00`	`Secret_Hamster`	`well he got rushed to hospital and had is stomach pumped`
`15:56.16`	`Secret_Hamster`	`won the bet though`
`15:56.26`	`sussudio`	`so he never had to fun to defecate semi-digested leaking batteries`
`15:56.34`	`Secret_Hamster`	`nope`
`15:57.00`	`Secret_Hamster`	`apparently they were abit worried the contents would react with the acid in his stomach`
`15:57.07`	`sussudio`	`i have a pack of d-cell batteries here........`
`15:57.31`	`sussudio`	`on the packaging it has little icons of 1) a clock 2) a calculator 3) a radio 4) a remote control`
`15:57.39`	`sussudio`	`ever tried to shove d-cells into those?`
`15:58.16`	`Secret_Hamster`	`you obiously don't have a big enough hammer`
`15:58.24`	`sussudio`	`i do`
`15:58.31`	`sussudio`	`there's calculatorbits all over my floor`
`15:59.16`	`Secret_Hamster`	`rofl`
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`16:07.22`	`tavi`	`Secret_Hamster`
`16:07.23`	`tavi`	`:)`
`16:07.26`	`Secret_Hamster`	`lo tavi`
`16:07.48`	`Secret_Hamster`	`it's the quietest i've ever seen it in here today`
`16:08.00`	`Secret_Hamster`	`I think all the guys are off hacking code`
`16:08.04`	`tavi`	`yeah yeah`
`16:08.05`	`tavi`	`:)`
`16:08.06`	`tavi`	`bshit`
`16:08.44`	`Secret_Hamster`	`sussudio is being particularly quiet`
`16:09.57`	`Secret_Hamster`	`tavi: ever played bzflag`
`16:10.22`	`tavi`	`nope`
`16:10.54`	`Secret_Hamster`	`it's good. brainless shooting at people`
`16:11.06`	`Secret_Hamster`	`go have a look at the website`
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`16:16.34`	`bzdoug_`	`~15404/60`
`16:16.35`		`256.733333333333`
`16:16.50`	`bzdoug_`	`256.73333333333 / 60`
`16:17.04`	`bzdoug_`	`~256.73333333333 / 60`
`16:17.05`		`4.278888888889`
`16:20.01`	`sussudio`	`~sud`
`16:20.02`		`shut up doug`
`16:20.03`	`sussudio`	`~+sud`
`16:20.04`		`shut up doug`
`16:21.28`	`bzdoug_`	`~die`
`16:21.33`		`ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.`
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`16:22.05`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`aaaaaaaah`
`16:22.08`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hello`
`16:22.15`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hat 2 days probs with irc`
`16:22.44`	`bomber`	`hi tea`
`16:23.27`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`hello bombi`
`16:24.47`	`Secret_Hamster`	`huh, I have had a weeks problem with dal. It's just under constant attack`
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`16:25.44`	`greg1`	`wow`
`16:25.49`	`greg1`	`Hi`
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`16:29.05`	`[dmp]`	`ah, it worked :)`
`16:29.47`	`greg1`	`hi dmp`
`16:30.11`	`[dmp]`	`hi`
`16:30.40`	`bzdoug_`	`whos greg1?`
`16:30.45`	`bzdoug_`	`~whois greg1`
`16:30.48`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`16:30.54`	`greg1`	`hum`
`16:31.25`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm, you use debian.... :)`
`16:31.32`	`greg1`	`good answer`
`16:32.00`	`bzdoug_`	`lurgyman: will it run on windowz?`
`16:32.07`	`lurgyman`	`bzdoug_: not yet`
`16:32.18`	`lurgyman`	`bzdoug_: i don't think it'll even run on a non-gentoo system`
`16:32.28`	`greg1`	`bzdoug_ : resolving technical problems is my work the whole day so....`
`16:32.29`	`bzdoug_`	`hah`
`16:32.33`	`lurgyman`	`it doesn't have a build system yet... really...`
`16:32.41`	`bzdoug_`	`greg1: heh`
`16:32.45`	`bzdoug_`	`lurgyman: ugh`
`16:32.49`	`bzdoug_`	`bzdoug_: heh`
`16:33.20`	`bomber`	`Tea: Pinguin is in the lab`
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`16:34.09`	`greg1`	`bzdoug_ : but maybe you will help me on one point`
`16:34.21`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`aso`
`16:34.50`	`greg1`	`bzdoug_ : how can you be a simple spectator on ducati ?`
`16:37.03`	`TimRiker`	`wow, long dinner.`
`16:38.22`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`lol`
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`16:40.01`	`bzdoug_`	`'lo Patlabor221!`
`16:42.11`	`Patlabor221`	`hey`
`16:44.11`	`scanline`	`mornin folks`
`16:48.33`	`lurgyman`	`scanline: mornin`
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`16:49.50`	`scanline`	`wahoo`
`16:51.10`	`lurgyman`	`bzgirl: good morning`
`16:56.11`	`Patlabor221`	`amerge? is that like an asyncronous merge?`
`16:59.07`	`Patlabor221`	`ohhh my "dexters labratory: techno remix"`
`17:00.21`	`scanline`	`It's a party in my triangles, and everyone's invited!`
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`17:00.56`	`Patlabor221`	`equilateral or isosolies?`
`17:03.46`	`scanline`	`pseudoequilateral`
`17:04.08`	`Patlabor221`	`I see`
`17:05.48`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`PINGUIN !!!!!`
`17:05.58`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`Patlabor?`
`17:06.07`	`bzgirl`	`oh hi lurgyman`
`17:06.54`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`[]TeA\|TrEE[]`
`17:07.16`	`Patlabor221`	`did it work on the SGI?`
`17:07.51`	`scanline`	`Patlabor221: not yet, we had lots of problems with libraries`
`17:08.02`	`scanline`	`libdb3 in particular`
`17:08.14`	`Patlabor221`	`Ahhh`
`17:08.28`	`scanline`	`pgserver worked it seems`
`17:08.38`	`scanline`	`but the picogui theme compiler crashed...`
`17:14.29`	`hardwire`	`yawn`
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`17:18.53`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`:-)`
`17:27.42`	`Patlabor221`	`Doug, you here?`
`17:39.25`	`[TeA\|TrEE]`	`~ducatictf`
`17:45.39`	`Chestal`	`Tea: noticed that your former team won a match?`
`17:46.16`	`sussudio`	`team hot beverages?`
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`18:17.10`	`Chestal`	`hmm, league forums are hosed`
`18:42.28`	`bzdoug_`	`Patlabor221: now I am`
`18:43.27`	`Patlabor221`	`run a server when you get back`
`18:43.33`	`bzdoug_`	`k`
`18:44.01`	`bzdoug_`	`do I have to download anything new?`
`18:44.05`	`Patlabor221`	`no`
`18:44.09`	`bzdoug_`	`k`
`18:44.14`	`bzdoug_`	`server running`
`18:44.15`	`Patlabor221`	`just let me know when you do`
`18:44.45`	`bzdoug_`	`its running`
`18:45.32`	`Patlabor221`	`hmmm, now if you run the game does your server show up?`
`18:45.41`	`bzdoug_`	`no`
`18:45.44`	`bzdoug_`	`:(`
`18:46.08`	`Patlabor221`	`hmmm, must continue looking`
`18:46.21`	`Patlabor221`	`thanks`
`18:46.38`	`bzdoug_`	`k`
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`18:58.39`	`rooter_the`	`the MySQL server is failing with too many connections on http://www.bzflag.org/league/`
`18:59.08`	`rooter_the`	`it's intermittent though`
`19:03.45`	`Jormungandr`	`whatever problem was with bzfs when no one was on must have resolved itself in recent CVS`
`19:09.56`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhh, there we go, list server working in BZ:0 :)`
`19:11.31`	`Jormungandr`	`what is bz:0?`
`19:14.17`	`Patlabor221`	`it's a branch`
`19:22.12`	`Jormungandr`	`what's different?`
`19:23.00`	`Patlabor221`	`sidestep, backjump, a "turbo boost", mines, and a rear shot.`
`19:23.06`	`Patlabor221`	`also higher res textures`
`19:25.55`	`Secret_Hamster`	`I'm building a rpm from a src.rpm. I'm using gcc3 and noticing a whole bunch of 'cc1plus: warning: -fnonnull-objects is no longer supported'`
`19:26.17`	`Secret_Hamster`	`is this gonna be a problem or as a warning is it not worth worrying about`
`19:27.36`	`Patlabor221`	`the newer GCC has newer stuff that bz could use`
`19:27.39`	`Patlabor221`	`it's just a warning`
`19:28.39`	`Jormungandr`	`cool, pat`
`19:29.27`	`Secret_Hamster`	`thanks, It's on almost everyline by the looks of it`
`19:29.39`	`Patlabor221`	`there are a lot of them`
`19:29.44`	`Patlabor221`	`it's in almost any file`
`19:30.39`	`TimRiker`	`remove it from the config if you like.`
`19:31.12`	`TimRiker`	`configs/config-linux:CXXOPT = -DNDEBUG -O2 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -fnonnull-objects \`
`19:37.24`	`Jormungandr`	`mmmm... coffee is at gulping temperature.`
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`19:38.58`	`Secret_Hamster`	`hum just compiled as I said. It won't do screen sizes properly`
`19:39.13`	`Secret_Hamster`	`I'm running Linus with mesa drivers`
`19:39.49`	`Secret_Hamster`	`when I go 640x480 mode (normal screen 1024x768) then I only get 1/4 of the screen!`
`19:39.55`	`Secret_Hamster`	`what's going on`
`19:40.31`	`Secret_Hamster`	`the rpm from the website (1.7g0.i386) works fine`
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`19:40.51`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`hmm`
`19:40.57`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`somewone is using my nick`
`19:41.08`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`~ducatictf`
`19:41.44`	`sussudio`	`where`
`19:42.56`	`Secret_Hamster`	`hum okay I lie. It just worked`
`19:43.44`	`Secret_Hamster`	`and now it's not working`
`19:43.47`	`Secret_Hamster`	`argh`
`19:46.47`	`TimRiker`	`Secret_Hamster: did you look at the topmost tele on basement?`
`19:47.24`	`TimRiker`	`Secret_Hamster: look in your config and remove the geometry line, then restart.`
`19:48.43`	`Secret_Hamster`	`okay, the thing is now starting to crash as well thanks.`
`19:48.54`	`Secret_Hamster`	`I am honoured to be getting advice from you`
`19:51.26`	`Secret_Hamster`	`argh I'm gonna go back to the 1386 version`
`19:54.06`	`Secret_Hamster`	`humm not being able to get to he soundcard won't mess it up will it?`
`19:54.27`	`TimRiker`	`try -mute`
`19:54.42`	`sussudio`	`~ducatictf`
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`20:06.27`	`Secret_Hamster`	`TimRiker: your one server is seriously laggy`
`20:06.40`	`Secret_Hamster`	`ahh that's prolly why`
`20:06.45`	`TimRiker`	`yeah, that's the one that's eating cpu.`
`20:07.10`	`Secret_Hamster`	`it's terrible. hardly playable at all`
`20:07.17`	`Secret_Hamster`	`not as if it's that full`
`20:07.29`	`Secret_Hamster`	`would a restart help?`
`20:07.40`	`Secret_Hamster`	`is it a unix system`
`20:08.16`	`Jormungandr`	`tim... which bzfs? the newer one I downloaded yesterday is behaving.`
`20:08.25`	`Secret_Hamster`	`got a problem still. I can't change te screen size`
`20:08.38`	`Secret_Hamster`	`I'm now forced to run at 1024x768`
`20:09.03`	`Secret_Hamster`	`even with the i386 off the bzflag site. which worked earlier on`
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`20:10.42`	`TimRiker`	`it's an old x86 linux box. k6 iirc.`
`20:10.47`	`Secret_Hamster`	`Ps TimRiker earlier on you said> "Secret_Hamster: did you look at the topmost tele on basement?" what do you mean?`
`20:11.06`	`TimRiker`	`yep 300mhz k6`
`20:11.32`	`TimRiker`	`Secret_Hamster: the highest teleporter on basement is floating. not sure if you intended that.`
`20:11.35`	`Secret_Hamster`	`TimRiker: I'm running mine on p166, runs fine except for my bandwidth issues`
`20:11.38`	`Secret_Hamster`	`:)`
`20:11.45`	`TimRiker`	`cvs code?`
`20:12.46`	`Secret_Hamster`	`TimRiker: still don't quite get you. Are you refering to my map?`
`20:12.55`	`TimRiker`	`yes.`
`20:13.25`	`Secret_Hamster`	`ahh actaully the teleporters inside the "river banks" are only to allow you to get out`
`20:13.36`	`Secret_Hamster`	`as I can't stop you getting in there`
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`20:14.00`	`Secret_Hamster`	`that would be a nice feature. to define spawning areas`
`20:14.20`	`TimRiker`	`hmm. oh, I was thinking of basement. sorry. that's not yours.`
`20:14.29`	`Secret_Hamster`	`no it's not`
`20:14.36`	`Secret_Hamster`	`i think I know the one you mean`
`20:14.40`	`TimRiker`	`on bridges, I'd recommend making the banks solid instead.`
`20:14.48`	`bzdoug_`	`yea, could it be possible to define spawning and flag areas?`
`20:15.04`	`TimRiker`	`now the flags all migrate under the banks on bridges till there aren't any left.`
`20:15.11`	`Secret_Hamster`	`TimRiker: thanks didn't think of doing it that way`
`20:15.43`	`Secret_Hamster`	`PS what causes fps to drop. number of blocks or size of blocks?`
`20:15.49`	`TimRiker`	`bzdoug_: there were patches for that someplace, but they never got merged.`
`20:15.58`	`bzdoug_`	`TimRiker: do they work?`
`20:16.14`	`TimRiker`	`Secret_Hamster: mostly the number of blocks.`
`20:16.24`	`TimRiker`	`bzdoug_: I never tested them.`
`20:16.28`	`bzdoug_`	`TimRiker: k`
`20:16.45`	`bzdoug_`	`wow`
`20:16.49`	`bzdoug_`	`checkout bzflag.org`
`20:16.56`	`bzdoug_`	`something is screwed up`
`20:17.08`	`TimRiker`	`Secret_Hamster: filling under the banks with one larger block that covers the floor would stop the flags from spawning there. ;-)`
`20:17.11`	`Secret_Hamster`	`all I've got to do now is get bzedit to compile. so I can see what is happening. thx alot. I don't know many prime developers who pay this muxh attention to the little people`
`20:17.25`	`bzdoug_`	`lol`
`20:17.27`	`TimRiker`	`bzdoug_: looks fine here.`
`20:17.36`	`bzdoug_`	`?`
`20:17.41`	`bzdoug_`	`sql errors and stuff`
`20:18.09`	`bzdoug_`	`http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=512060&group_id=3248&atid=303248`
`20:18.10`	`TimRiker`	`all looks fine here.`
`20:18.22`	`bzdoug_`	`odd`
`20:18.36`	`bzdoug_`	`Warning: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'mysql' (111) in /home/groups/b/bz/bzflag/htdocs/document.php on line 5`
`20:18.42`	`bzdoug_`	`about 5 of those lines`
`20:18.48`	`bzdoug_`	`plus in the main page`
`20:18.53`	`TimRiker`	`hmm I'm not seeing it. try reloading?`
`20:18.56`	`bzdoug_`	`ack`
`20:19.10`	`Secret_Hamster`	`I'm not getting any errors either`
`20:19.13`	`bzdoug_`	`I reloaded about 3 times, and the third time it fixed it self`
`20:19.29`	`bzdoug_`	`wierd`
`20:22.08`	`TimRiker`	`restarted the server on one and cpu dropped to < 5%`
`20:22.53`	`Secret_Hamster`	`hum okay I'm bakc in there then`
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`20:45.28`	`Jormungandr`	`Tim, I was having same problem.`
`20:45.35`	`Jormungandr`	`seems to be better now.`
`20:45.57`	`Jormungandr`	`maybe it's something specific that's causing it to load up.`
`20:46.56`	`bzdoug_`	`like players?`
`20:46.58`	`bzdoug_`	`:)`
`20:52.12`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`Chestal?`
`20:56.06`	`bzdoug_`	`http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=661395&group_id=3248&atid=303248`
`20:56.16`	`bzdoug_`	`can anyone see if this patch works?`
`20:56.43`	`bzgirl`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_: hows match going?`
`21:00.52`	`bzdoug_`	`Patlabor221: you remove a file called bzflag/include/OpenGLTexFont.h ?`
`21:01.29`	`Patlabor221`	`no I didn't remove any files`
`21:01.31`	`Patlabor221`	`why do you ask?`
`21:01.48`	`bzdoug_`	`trying to patch your program with colored text`
`21:02.00`	`Patlabor221`	`when was the patch made?`
`21:02.07`	`Patlabor221`	`and off of what version?`
`21:02.15`	`bzdoug_`	`The patch is against the CVS v1_7g0 tag.`
`21:02.23`	`bzdoug_`	`2003-01-02 19:37`
`21:02.27`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm off of raw cvs`
`21:02.31`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`21:02.39`	`bzdoug_`	`let me test this..`
`21:02.46`	`Patlabor221`	`tho from about a week ago`
`21:02.50`	`Patlabor221`	`I need to remerge`
`21:02.54`	`bzdoug_`	`k`
`21:02.57`	`Patlabor221`	`all but some of the server stuff`
`21:03.13`	`bzdoug_`	`hm`
`21:03.42`	`Patlabor221`	`since the current server code would think I'm cheating`
`21:03.56`	`bzdoug_`	`ah`
`21:04.55`	`Patlabor221`	`so I'll have to change that before I move it in`
`21:05.47`	`bzdoug_`	`do you have a file called /src/ogl/OpenGLTexFont.h`
`21:05.54`	`bzdoug_`	`oh something?`
`21:05.57`	`bzdoug_`	`or*`
`21:06.04`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`bzgirl?`
`21:06.20`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`well then night all`
`21:06.23`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`tlz wone against how`
`21:06.25`	`rooter_the`	`bye TeA`
`21:06.26`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`super match`
`21:06.37`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`/dev/null is cool`
`21:06.38`	`bzdoug_`	`yay`
`21:06.40`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`;)`
`21:06.41`	`rooter_the`	`:)`
`21:06.42`	`[TeA\|TrEE]_`	`bye`
`21:06.44`	`bzdoug_`	`list server works`
`21:06.44`	`Patlabor221`	`doug its in /include`
`21:06.45`	`rooter_the`	`bye`
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`21:06.53`	`bzdoug_`	`er`
`21:07.07`	`bzdoug_`	`.cxx?`
`21:07.16`	`rooter_the`	`i was thinking that in an official match where there are observers...`
`21:07.16`	`Patlabor221`	`.h`
`21:07.24`	`Patlabor221`	`the .cxx is in the src folder`
`21:07.40`	`bzdoug_`	`SRC/OGL/OPENGLTEXFONT.CXX`
`21:07.53`	`bzdoug_`	`but you have it?`
`21:07.55`	`jzaun`	`BZF:Z - join up on jzaun.com:5157`
`21:08.02`	`rooter_the`	`...that observers that are on the same team as the players shouldn't be in the same team color`
`21:08.11`	`bzdoug_`	`jzaun: ok`
`21:08.15`	`rooter_the`	`if that makes any sense`
`21:08.53`	`Patlabor221`	`yes doug I have that file`
`21:20.17`	`bzdoug_`	`k`
`21:20.19`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm`
`21:20.22`	`bzdoug_`	`found a bug`
`21:20.26`	`bzdoug_`	`SW dont work`
`21:20.36`	`bzdoug_`	`and arse shot dont work with SW`
`21:20.39`	`Patlabor221`	`well it was a stupid wep anyway :)`
`21:20.47`	`bzdoug_`	`lol`
`21:20.50`	`Patlabor221`	`post a list on the board`
`21:20.56`	`Patlabor221`	`and I'll get to fixing them`
`21:21.02`	`bzdoug_`	`hmm, but maybe its my comilating..`
`21:21.06`	`bzdoug_`	`er, yea`
`21:21.13`	`bzdoug_`	`the patch`
`21:21.17`	`bzdoug_`	`which dont work either`
`21:21.38`	`Patlabor221`	`what does the patch do?`
`21:21.50`	`bzdoug_`	`http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=661395&group_id=3248&atid=303248`
`21:22.54`	`jzaun`	`bzdoug_: connect again`
`21:23.34`	`Patlabor221`	`make a post on the boards about any patches you want to see in perminatnly and I will merge them in`
`21:27.43`	`jzaun`	`Patlabor221: HUD :-)`
`21:29.30`	`Patlabor221`	`yes hyd`
`21:29.32`	`Patlabor221`	`hud`
`21:37.05`	`sussudio`	`could you have CLIENTQUERY give some more info like OS and maybe framerate and CVS version (if cvs)`
`21:38.02`	`Patlabor221`	`OS, most likely, framerate is variable, and I don't think the app knows about CVS versions since I think they are on each file.`
`21:38.33`	`sussudio`	`i've been noticing some oddly behaving g0 and g1 client, that's why......`
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`21:55.50`	`Fanta`	`hello`
`21:55.57`	`Fanta`	`chestal here ?`
`21:56.24`	`sussudio`	`someone cheating?`
`21:56.31`	`sussudio`	`~ducatictf`
`21:56.42`	`Fanta`	`no no :-) only match result`
`22:12.35`	`protonioAuGratin`	`bah`
`22:12.45`	`protonioAuGratin`	`stupid incompetant housing employees`
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`22:33.50`	`Patlabor221`	`hmm looks like I'm getting a radion 9700, wonder what I should put it in`
`22:34.17`	`protonioAuGratin`	`Patlabor221: the trash can? ;)`
`22:34.27`	`Patlabor221`	`cap, it's free`
`22:34.54`	`Patlabor221`	`and I still have my Gf4 and GF3`
`22:35.07`	`Patlabor221`	`just have to give them back my GF2 ultra`
`22:35.09`	`protonioAuGratin`	`send it to me...for...testing...`
`22:35.20`	`Patlabor221`	`but DRI blows`
`22:35.30`	`protonioAuGratin`	`yeah`
`22:36.30`	`Patlabor221`	`and It can't realy go anywhere`
`22:36.42`	`Patlabor221`	`since eventualy it will have to come back`
`22:36.54`	`Patlabor221`	`when what ever is better commes out`
`22:37.06`	`Patlabor221`	`got a voodoo5 I can send ya tho :)`
`22:37.20`	`protonioAuGratin`	`hahaha`
`22:37.35`	`Patlabor221`	`noone wants that thing`
`22:38.28`	`Patlabor221`	`I think I'll put the 9700 in my home windows machine and move the GF3 to the leeonx machine when I get the mobo for it`
`22:38.43`	`Patlabor221`	`then put the PCI GF2MX in the work lin machine`
`22:39.51`	`Patlabor221`	`wow, I won't have any more cellys then`
`22:39.58`	`Patlabor221`	`all P3 or better`
`22:40.22`	`Patlabor221`	`tho I don't know how to count the 700mhz Via C3 machine`
`22:40.57`	`protonioAuGratin`	`that is kinda curious`
`22:41.09`	`Patlabor221`	`very`
`22:41.15`	`Patlabor221`	`the CPU is like tinny`
`22:41.33`	`protonioAuGratin`	`you oughta see the sgi hardware i got (old indy)`
`22:41.39`	`protonioAuGratin`	`graphics chip is quite a bit larger than the CPU`
`22:42.16`	`protonioAuGratin`	`thats also the most tightly integrated system i've ever seen...the boards are 12-layer (yes, TWELVE) PCBs`
`22:43.37`	`Patlabor221`	`wow`
`22:43.45`	`Patlabor221`	`but you can't take it home can you? :)`
`22:44.22`	`Patlabor221`	`I could make a doug-esqe beowulf cluster of dreamcasts tho :)`
`22:44.46`	`scanline`	`how many dreamcasts?`
`22:44.53`	`Patlabor221`	`I would like to see a x-box dev site that's hosted on an x-box`
`22:45.09`	`Patlabor221`	`I dono, we have a box full of DC parts in the back room somewhere`
`22:45.31`	`protonioAuGratin`	`Patlabor221: yeah i can take it home`
`22:45.34`	`scanline`	`the broadband adaptors would be hard to get enough of`
`22:45.41`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah they would`
`22:45.45`	`scanline`	`wahoo, I can draw on canvas widgets from python now`
`22:45.46`	`protonioAuGratin`	`in fact`
`22:45.49`	`protonioAuGratin`	`i've already taken it home`
`22:45.52`	`Patlabor221`	`coo`
`22:45.56`	`scanline`	`protonioAuGratin: was going to put a crosshair-type-thing on the camera control panel`
`22:46.52`	`Patlabor221`	`why is the BBA for all consoles hard to find?`
`22:47.09`	`Patlabor221`	`I was lucky to find the one for my cube`
`22:48.07`	`protonioAuGratin`	`because everyone knows that ISDN is the wave of the future and is waiting for an appropriate adapter`
`22:48.42`	`Patlabor221`	`or the companys just arn't freakin makin em`
`22:48.44`	`scanline`	`:)`
`22:48.57`	`Patlabor221`	`I found mine cus it was mixed in with the modem adapters`
`22:49.06`	`Patlabor221`	`and thankfully missmarked as one :)`
`22:50.38`	`scanline`	`mwahaha... can do opengl blurring from python now`
`22:53.51`	`TimRiker`	`~bzflist one:5155`
`22:54.08`	`TimRiker`	`~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5155`
`23:01.09`	`Jormungandr`	`is lagwarn/lagdrop broken in recent versions? guy had 1600ms for minutes and still on, when conf file has -lagdrop 3 and -lagwarn 500`
`23:01.24`	`TimRiker`	`~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5155`
`23:01.40`	`TimRiker`	`Jormungandr: not that I know of. should be working.`
`23:01.59`	`TimRiker`	`old clients would only get a warning on every kill iirc.`
`23:02.20`	`Jormungandr`	`ah`
`23:02.36`	`Chestal`	`Tim: do you know what this crash client did exactly?`
`23:02.42`	`Chestal`	`Tim: was it wrong shot ids?`
`23:04.21`	`TimRiker`	`I suspect that was one yeah. sending a shotid >= maxshots would get passed on to other clients and they would try to dereference the shot array which was not that large.`
`23:04.51`	`Chestal`	`yes, I noticed this years ago, actually, this was my first try to modify the client: give me more shots :-)`
`23:04.58`	`Chestal`	`server filters that now?`
`23:05.08`	`TimRiker`	`it's fixed in the server code to no pass on the shots, I suppose the client could get a fix too if someone wants to.`
`23:06.00`	`TimRiker`	`server silently drops shots that it thinks are invalid, including to fast shots, remote shots, shots with too high an ID, etc.`
`23:07.22`	`Chestal`	`ok, will probably switch to CVS code for ducati tomorrow`
`23:07.38`	`Chestal`	`I heard that turkey migh tadopt CVS code, too, would be good 'case there's a lot of flags and jumping`
`23:08.39`	`Chestal`	`did you thnk of teleporters when implementing the shot-too-far-from-tank check?`
`23:10.06`	`TimRiker`	`Chestal: we check on shot origin. should be ok.`
`23:10.59`	`TimRiker`	`the flag pickup near test is probably a bit too agressive at present.`
`23:11.27`	`Chestal`	`last time I checked the high speed test was too aggressive as well`
`23:13.05`	`TimRiker`	`it's been toned down a bit now, keep me posted if you still think it's too agressive.`
`23:13.23`	`Chestal`	`will do some testign tomorrow when I find the time`
`23:13.26`	`TimRiker`	`~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5155`
`23:14.35`	`TimRiker`	`~spell agressive`
`23:14.35`		`possible spellings for agressive: aggressive`
`23:14.45`	`TimRiker`	`hmm ;-)`
`23:15.46`	`Patlabor221`	`ibot dosn't like my version numbers, poo`
`23:15.48`		`Patlabor221: no idea`
`23:16.02`	`Patlabor221`	`thank you ibot`
`23:17.32`	`stibnite`	`TimRiker: when you said yesterday to try cvs to fix my cpu usage problem, did you mean HEAD?`
`23:17.42`	`stibnite`	`or another branch?`
`23:21.01`	`Patlabor221`	`most likeky 1.7`
`23:21.18`	`stibnite`	`ahh.`
`23:21.31`	`Patlabor221`	`-r v1_7 I think is yee olde CVS term for it`
`23:21.33`	`stibnite`	`because head, she would not build`
`23:22.11`	`stibnite`	`.. "If at first you don't succeed- try, try again. Then give up. No use being a damn fool about it."`
`23:22.14`	`Patlabor221`	`yes head is to be loped off`
`23:22.48`	`stibnite`	`it was interesting though.`
`23:22.55`	`stibnite`	`veddy interestingk`
`23:23.30`	`stibnite`	`i've had it with KDE3. back to wmaker i go.`
`23:32.15`	`TimRiker`	`stibnite: v1_7`
`23:32.30`	`stibnite`	`aha, ty`
`23:32.33`	`stibnite`	`:)`
`23:33.15`	`stibnite`	`so is the bug definitely fixed? no use in my keeping the debug logs for the breaking 1.7g0 ?`
`23:35.16`	`TimRiker`	`argh... cvs server on one is cpu hungry again.`
`23:35.26`	`stibnite`	`:\`
`23:47.37`	`TimRiker`	`2 handles in CLOSE_WAIT state, with players gone. select() never sleeps.`
`23:48.06`	`TimRiker`	`oh, 3 handles now.`
`23:52.08`	`stibnite`	`boo`
`23:52.27`	`stibnite`	`cvs.sf.net refusing connections, dalnet gone, what next?`
`23:56.35`	`Patlabor221`	`dogs and cats living together.. mass hysteria.`
`23:59.51`	`stibnite`	`lol`

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