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| 01:30.13 | sussudio | does anyone want an url with their nick in the stats? |
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| 01:58.53 | sussudio | :-P~~~~~ |
| 01:59.06 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 01:59.55 | sussudio | 3 |
| 01:59.55 | sussudio | bzdoug |
| 01:59.55 | sussudio | 240 |
| 01:59.55 | sussudio | "woo, my firewall has kernel paniced" |
| 01:59.57 | sussudio | :-| |
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| 02:48.31 | lurgyman | ~fishslap vectors |
| 02:48.32 | | ACTION slaps vectors up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 03:00.19 | bzdoug__ | http://heck.no-ip.com/bzflaglog/ |
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| 03:40.16 | MrApathyCream | anyonegot a copy of Solo5? |
| 03:42.32 | MrApathyCream | holy alternate universes.. go to http://www.ircnet.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi and join #bzflag |
| 03:48.29 | jraitala | it's invaded by .pl bots or so |
| 03:49.45 | jacques | seems buggy to me |
| 03:49.50 | jacques | at least on galeon |
| 03:51.04 | jraitala | real irc clients should be preferred instead |
| 03:58.03 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
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| 04:05.53 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.53 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.53 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.53 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.57 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.59 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.01 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.03 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:35.10 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: huh? are you on drugs? |
| 04:38.14 | TimRiker | so if you pickup another team flag it immediately "captures" it? |
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| 05:20.52 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: yes |
| 05:31.57 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: obviously i mean a cheat, we [c][s]hould protect against |
| 05:42.47 | fiberchunks | pardon, has the tag for 1_7 changed, or am I borking the command? cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r1_7 bzflag |
| 05:43.11 | MrApathyCream | -r v1_7 |
| 05:43.29 | fiberchunks | thought it was something stupid - gracias senor |
| 05:43.29 | Patlabor221 | command borking |
| 05:44.08 | fiberchunks | they are not fond of it |
| 05:44.26 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: well? |
| 05:45.09 | MrApathyCream | must be nice |
| 05:45.46 | MrApathyCream | near sighted turkeys? |
| 05:45.54 | Patlabor221 | I couldn't sleep last night till 2AM |
| 05:46.04 | Patlabor221 | so I was realy tired when I got home |
| 05:46.08 | Patlabor221 | so I passed out |
| 05:46.16 | Patlabor221 | Nephero's Skin Tool |
| 05:48.25 | MrApathyCream | hoda? |
| 05:48.33 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 05:48.35 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:48.40 | Patlabor221 | some one actualy talented |
| 05:48.45 | MrApathyCream | mmm |
| 05:49.00 | MrApathyCream | find a flare texture? |
| 05:49.00 | Patlabor221 | www.planethalflife.com/studio/ |
| 05:49.09 | Patlabor221 | ohh that I can make |
| 05:49.22 | Patlabor221 | it's geting good UVS that are pissing me off |
| 05:49.44 | Patlabor221 | hence my current search of the FPS arena |
| 05:55.18 | MrApathyCream | did you tell tim about the GeoM? |
| 05:58.03 | Patlabor221 | not realy |
| 06:07.38 | Patlabor221 | didn't have a realy cool screeny |
| 06:07.45 | Patlabor221 | need one like the bb title. |
| 06:49.42 | MrApathyCream | ah the yutes |
| 07:13.25 | HPP | ~bzflist |
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| 07:34.34 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 07:34.48 | TimRiker | GeoM? |
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| 07:38.20 | Dervish | hello everyone |
| 07:40.29 | Dervish | anyone familiar with problems when a map is larger than 32KB? |
| 07:41.54 | captain_proton | 32k should be enough for anyone ;) |
| 07:42.20 | Dervish | lol, not my map... just crossed over 32KB even with removing BZEdit comment lines |
| 07:42.46 | captain_proton | that was a comment in the source a while ago but i thought it had been fixed |
| 07:42.56 | Dervish | I noticed something interesting... some of my teleporter links stop working when it gets this large |
| 07:43.03 | Dervish | nI'm using CVS |
| 07:43.15 | Dervish | doooh! used to typing n first ;) |
| 07:44.05 | Dervish | it's funny, a lot of things are mentioned as "fixed" even though similar problems pop up here and there :) |
| 07:44.55 | captain_proton | ~emulate BZFlag |
| 07:44.56 | | ACTION sits hacking on blootbot, bzflag, tuxscreen, eLinux, and many other projects and mutters "Patches Welcome!" |
| 07:45.19 | Dervish | just as Bill Gates said 640KB should be enough for anyone, lol... 32KB is not going to be enough for maps forever |
| 07:46.20 | Dervish | captain, aren't you on the east coast? must be late there |
| 07:46.28 | captain_proton | mountain time here |
| 07:46.33 | Dervish | ah |
| 07:47.05 | Dervish | PST here... I usually get on when all the International folk do, and get all the crappy lagged players |
| 07:48.43 | Dervish | well, no one else actively checking their irc client... I'll make a post about it. Thanks for responding :) |
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| 08:23.03 | Secret_Hamster | hum having real problems with my dri/agp support |
| 08:24.02 | Secret_Hamster | installed mandrake 9.0 last night. Just a cannot seem to get agpmode 2 going? Well that's what BZflag 1.7e6 is reporting anyway |
| 09:01.02 | Secret_Hamster | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.02 | TimRiker | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html <- should I merge that with the log now? |
| 09:11.31 | TimRiker | Secret_Hamster: yes, ignore them. SGI still wants the old names. or we could #ifdef them, ugh. |
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| 09:17.50 | TimRiker | ibot log |
| 09:17.51 | | from memory, log is as piece of wood |
| 09:17.54 | TimRiker | ibot logs |
| 09:17.55 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ |
| 09:18.23 | TimRiker | logs is also stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 09:18.33 | TimRiker | ibot: logs is also stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 09:18.33 | | TimRiker: okay |
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| 09:24.43 | greg1 | Hi |
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| 10:29.15 | prodan | anyone for ducati ? |
| 10:31.12 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 10:35.10 | prodan | zflist |
| 10:35.19 | prodan | ~bzflist |
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| 10:37.28 | bomber_ | moin |
| 10:37.43 | prodan | moin |
| 10:37.47 | prodan | ducati? |
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| 10:41.42 | bomber_ | ok prodi |
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| 14:56.06 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
| 15:02.39 | bzdoug_ | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:03 |
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| 15:16.41 | sgi | hi |
| 15:17.35 | sgi | hello |
| 15:18.54 | sgi | mxcvmcxv |
| 15:19.34 | sgi | msg NickServ identify puzzola7 |
| 15:20.15 | sgi | msg NickServ identifi <puzzola7> |
| 15:21.47 | bzgirl | hi sgi |
| 15:22.32 | jraitala_ | hello |
| 15:22.48 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 15:22.53 | bzdoug_ | I know your password! |
| 15:22.57 | bzdoug_ | :P |
| 15:22.59 | sgi | fake |
| 15:23.04 | sgi | joke |
| 15:23.08 | sgi | try |
| 15:23.13 | sgi | ehehehe |
| 15:23.27 | bzdoug_ | :P |
| 15:23.30 | sgi | go try |
| 15:24.08 | sgi | question......which password ,for what |
| 15:24.20 | jraitala_ | that's what I would've said after accidentaly msg'ing my password to whole channel |
| 15:25.09 | sgi | i can repeat the passwd if you want |
| 15:25.14 | sgi | puzzola7 |
| 15:25.18 | bzgirl | :) |
| 15:25.21 | Piggy | msg nickserv ghost bzdoug_ chickenlover |
| 15:25.28 | bzdoug_ | :P |
| 15:25.35 | sgi | I think ...skunk in italian language |
| 15:25.58 | sgi | next time 6puzzola |
| 15:26.56 | sussudio | ~piggy |
| 15:26.56 | | Piggy logs all you do... Look at bzflag.dontexist.org |
| 15:27.24 | sgi | we have a lot work to do |
| 15:28.09 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 15:28.22 | bzdoug_ | linux has problems with MY chipset only |
| 15:28.25 | *** join/#bzflag puzzola7 (~88020199@203.194.240.139) |
| 15:28.38 | bzdoug_ | of allll the chipsets to break |
| 15:29.09 | puzzola7 | look puzzola7 login |
| 15:29.10 | sussudio | you mean the crappola $4.99 chipset? |
| 15:29.19 | bzdoug_ | dint ask you |
| 15:29.25 | sussudio | pig |
| 15:29.41 | bzdoug_ | quack |
| 15:29.52 | sgi | good morning |
| 15:30.15 | bzdoug_ | GOOD MOOOOORNNNING VIETNAM!!!! |
| 15:30.22 | puzzola7 | good morning sgi |
| 15:30.33 | sussudio | that'll teach you to buy ebay garbage |
| 15:30.34 | sgi | great movie |
| 15:30.53 | bzdoug_ | ebay garbage? |
| 15:31.03 | sgi | ebay...you can find ..................everything |
| 15:31.04 | bzdoug_ | I dint get this off ebay |
| 15:31.10 | bzdoug_ | my friend did |
| 15:31.17 | sussudio | 2 dollah duron crap |
| 15:32.02 | sgi | you can find an old "SGI" machine for $200 |
| 15:32.13 | bzdoug_ | ugh |
| 15:32.16 | bzdoug_ | sgi? |
| 15:32.20 | bzdoug_ | usless computers |
| 15:32.25 | bzdoug_ | good for door stoppers |
| 15:32.28 | sgi | but you can find me at $2000000000000 |
| 15:32.36 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 15:32.49 | sgi | for graphics works "3d" is the best |
| 15:33.05 | bzdoug_ | true... |
| 15:33.36 | sgi | if you compare "HP" "sunmicroS" and SGI |
| 15:34.04 | sgi | say good bye puzola7 |
| 15:34.07 | puzzola7 | bye |
| 15:34.24 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 15:34.43 | sgi | coffee time |
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| 15:36.18 | rfs | Tim Riker here? |
| 15:36.27 | bzdoug_ | no |
| 15:36.32 | sgi | hi |
| 15:37.08 | rfs | bzdoug_: ok thanks. |
| 15:37.18 | *** part/#bzflag rfs (ralphs@24.114.66.18) |
| 15:40.32 | sgi | Gary kasparov Vs Deep Junior again |
| 15:43.26 | sgi | is there anybody out there |
| 15:43.58 | sgi | okey okey ..just a little pin prick |
| 15:44.25 | sgi | so so you think can tell |
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| 15:49.54 | sgi | uhmm |
| 15:53.45 | sgi | i have a question |
| 15:54.03 | sgi | BzMap question |
| 15:54.39 | sgi | I need a guru |
| 15:56.01 | sgi | not found |
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| 15:58.21 | sgi | i don't care |
| 15:59.07 | sgi | freezing cold |
| 16:03.26 | bzdoug_ | wow, I have debian and gentoo avalible for local download |
| 16:06.11 | bzdoug_ | woody is the latest no? |
| 16:06.41 | bzgirl | woody is stable |
| 16:06.51 | bzdoug_ | ok |
| 16:06.54 | bzgirl | you need testing |
| 16:07.04 | bzdoug_ | I do? |
| 16:07.20 | bzdoug_ | what do I need testing for? |
| 16:07.26 | bzdoug_ | I dont want it to crash |
| 16:07.35 | bzdoug_ | it crashes alot allready.. :P |
| 16:07.57 | bzgirl | it dosent crash alot, mine never has anyhow |
| 16:08.06 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 16:08.18 | bzdoug_ | can I do a net install with testing? |
| 16:09.24 | Chestal | you should use unstable |
| 16:09.32 | Chestal | that's more fun |
| 16:09.38 | bzdoug_ | well |
| 16:09.40 | bzgirl | do a net install of woody, then upgrade to unstable |
| 16:09.47 | bzdoug_ | this is the 3rd linux install so far |
| 16:09.52 | sussudio | ... |
| 16:10.02 | bzdoug_ | of redhat, mandrake, and IPCOP |
| 16:10.07 | bzdoug_ | all of them failed |
| 16:10.49 | bzdoug_ | do YOU install debain off a cd or the net? |
| 16:11.14 | sussudio | doug = cluebie. cluebie + sid = bad. |
| 16:11.43 | bzdoug_ | ? |
| 16:11.46 | bzdoug_ | ?? |
| 16:12.01 | sussudio | indeed |
| 16:12.14 | bomber_ | ~ducatictf |
| 16:12.16 | bzdoug_ | monkey chow |
| 16:12.38 | bzdoug_ | hmm, I could get suse |
| 16:14.23 | sussudio | it's all based on the linux kernel....... if you have crap hardware, it will fail on all dists. |
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| 16:15.02 | bzdoug_ | ... |
| 16:15.16 | sussudio | make a floppy from www.memtest86.org |
| 16:15.18 | sgi | .. |
| 16:15.39 | bzdoug_ | the computer dont have a floppy drive |
| 16:15.50 | bzdoug_ | (long live steve jobs) |
| 16:16.03 | bomber_ | ? |
| 16:16.06 | sussudio | so add one |
| 16:16.17 | sgi | what |
| 16:16.22 | bomber_ | i agree |
| 16:16.22 | sgi | no A |
| 16:16.23 | bzdoug_ | theres a harddrive in the way |
| 16:16.45 | sussudio | leave the case open, put floppydrive on table. |
| 16:16.50 | bzdoug_ | can debian install on a RAID? |
| 16:16.56 | bzdoug_ | I want to use a RAID |
| 16:17.02 | bzdoug_ | I have dual hard drives |
| 16:17.12 | bzdoug_ | and it makes things go faster with dual drives |
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| 16:17.45 | bzdoug_ | ~lart paul |
| 16:17.47 | sgi | ; |
| 16:18.03 | paul | ~lart bzdoug |
| 16:18.12 | paul | how appropriate |
| 16:18.16 | paul | :) |
| 16:18.23 | paul | hows bzdoug? |
| 16:18.39 | bzdoug_ | dunn |
| 16:18.42 | bzdoug_ | dunno |
| 16:18.45 | bzdoug_ | why not ask him? |
| 16:18.53 | MrDoug | :P |
| 16:18.58 | MrDoug | hes not here |
| 16:19.05 | paul | so who's bzdoug_? |
| 16:19.12 | paul | or MrDoug? |
| 16:19.28 | paul | MrDoug: do they not have school in america? |
| 16:19.33 | MrDoug | yah |
| 16:19.37 | paul | and.... |
| 16:19.43 | MrDoug | I am at skool |
| 16:19.44 | paul | arent you supposed to be in school? :) |
| 16:19.45 | MrDoug | :P |
| 16:20.04 | captain_proton | paul: he doesn't really go to school - his parents "teach" him |
| 16:20.06 | paul | MrDoug: let me give you a tip... go and study. |
| 16:20.06 | MrDoug | yea.. |
| 16:20.12 | paul | captain_proton: ah... |
| 16:20.33 | sgi | d |
| 16:20.38 | paul | MrDoug: your computer class consists of irc'ing on #bzflag? |
| 16:20.44 | MrDoug | no |
| 16:20.48 | MrDoug | installing debian |
| 16:20.54 | paul | wow |
| 16:21.03 | MrDoug | and redhat |
| 16:21.05 | MrDoug | and mandrak |
| 16:21.08 | sgi | smart guy |
| 16:21.15 | MrDoug | and gentoo if debian dont work |
| 16:21.23 | paul | where's that 'shut up doug' line coming from ?:) |
| 16:21.25 | bomber_ | you have to start maybe with DOS |
| 16:21.58 | MrDoug | paul: its a bot called "shut" |
| 16:22.01 | MrDoug | I have him on ignore |
| 16:22.04 | MrDoug | you should too |
| 16:22.10 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 16:22.11 | | shut up doug |
| 16:22.19 | captain_proton | MrDoug: installing something doesn't mean anything if you don't know how to use it |
| 16:22.30 | paul | MrDoug: no.. i think its hilarious - and appropriate. |
| 16:22.36 | MrDoug | heh |
| 16:22.42 | MrDoug | suit yourslef |
| 16:22.45 | paul | MrDoug: you need to listen more, talk less. |
| 16:23.14 | MrDoug | http://heck.no-ip.com/bzflaglog/ |
| 16:24.26 | bomber_ | ~ducatictf |
| 16:24.37 | bomber_ | hmm |
| 16:25.28 | sgi | mmh |
| 16:26.12 | bomber_ | igs |
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| 16:39.59 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducati |
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| 17:47.52 | insect_power2 | lo |
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| 17:50.24 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 18:01.56 | sussudio | lagmonkeys |
| 18:12.37 | insect_power2 | watermark |
| 18:16.21 | insect_power2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.38 | insect_power2 | u are all the biggest looser babie i ever saw |
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| 18:39.40 | insect_power2 | !!! |
| 18:39.58 | insect_power2 | u suck |
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| 18:40.26 | sussudio | cell: can you just go find a hobby or something |
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| 18:40.55 | Patlabor221 | Hey Tim, did MAC show you the GM model replacement idea? |
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| 18:42.33 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.08 | Patlabor221 | sussudio: I don't want to know what hobby he went to get. |
| 18:43.34 | sussudio | he's probably eating his neighbour now or something... you never know with germans |
| 18:46.34 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: yeah. I'm more interested in getting the tank models external and fixing up the texturing. |
| 18:48.53 | Patlabor221 | well this is a first shot at it. |
| 18:49.10 | Patlabor221 | The class that is there can be used for the tanks as well |
| 18:49.15 | MortimeR | ~ducatictf |
| 18:49.30 | Patlabor221 | figured I'd better try a smaller model first to make sure it's going to work ok :) |
| 18:50.08 | Patlabor221 | I have the current tank as a OBJ file that the class can read. just need to add the BZ type "explode" function. |
| 18:50.21 | Patlabor221 | I also have a better texture maping of the mesh. |
| 18:53.04 | Patlabor221 | but is it something you would want in CVS or as a patch? |
| 18:53.14 | Patlabor221 | that's my primary question. |
| 19:13.41 | TimRiker | I'd prefer a generic explode that splits up any mesh. but that's just me. |
| 19:14.11 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: patch first. let some slow display folk try it out. |
| 19:14.52 | Patlabor221 | well obj can hold N named meshed, I was just going to explode all sub meshes |
| 19:15.01 | TimRiker | seen www.racer.nl ? it would be fun to import all the cars. ;-) drive around in a mustang or something. |
| 19:15.10 | Patlabor221 | that would be near |
| 19:15.17 | TimRiker | Patlabor221: that's fine with me too. |
| 19:15.45 | Patlabor221 | the slow display people could allways replace the meshes with lower quality ones |
| 19:15.53 | Patlabor221 | for the tank should I keep the LOD? |
| 19:15.56 | TimRiker | probably better. the mesh designer can then indicate the pieces. just need to handle n pieces. |
| 19:16.02 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:16.18 | TimRiker | LOD? |
| 19:16.31 | Patlabor221 | hitank, medtank, and lowtank? |
| 19:16.50 | Patlabor221 | I can make it load 3 difrent objs |
| 19:17.01 | Patlabor221 | and behave the same as it does now |
| 19:17.18 | Patlabor221 | but then everyone who models needs to provide lower res versions |
| 19:17.32 | Patlabor221 | or could just let the low end people replace there models manualy |
| 19:18.18 | Patlabor221 | I am also looking into the model specifying atachement points for things like the flag or where the shot comes out of the tank. |
| 19:19.03 | Patlabor221 | and if those aren't there, then auto calcing them based on the mesh's box |
| 19:19.47 | TimRiker | I've been thinking on that... I would have 2 tank models (not 3) and have the default tank be that model. then have a menu option to allow or not allow dynamic models. |
| 19:20.23 | TimRiker | so a slow interface person would choose default and low. got to have high and dynamic to get the DLed versions. |
| 19:20.46 | Patlabor221 | there is some code that does distance based LOD now, would you throw that out? |
| 19:20.55 | Patlabor221 | also the shadow is based of the low model. |
| 19:21.06 | TimRiker | I'd throw it out for high. |
| 19:21.10 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 19:21.25 | TimRiker | hmm. had not considered that one. thoughts on making the shadow dynamic? |
| 19:21.33 | Patlabor221 | it could be done |
| 19:22.05 | TimRiker | we do need a flag place and a team logo place on each model. |
| 19:22.14 | Patlabor221 | actualy it will be rather easy since I am calling a class draw instead of the hard geo |
| 19:22.28 | Patlabor221 | I have an idea about the team logo |
| 19:22.50 | Patlabor221 | how did you want it to look? be a flag like thing? or be textured onto the model? |
| 19:23.26 | Patlabor221 | if you allow players to upload any image as a logo, there will be vulgarity issues |
| 19:23.33 | TimRiker | I'd prefer textures on the "door" of the model. |
| 19:23.37 | Patlabor221 | hmmm |
| 19:23.40 | Patlabor221 | that will be interesting |
| 19:23.49 | Patlabor221 | but still my Idea could work there |
| 19:23.50 | TimRiker | meshs and team logos need server admin approval. |
| 19:23.58 | Patlabor221 | instead of leting them upload an image |
| 19:24.05 | TimRiker | you can upload, but others will not see them till the admin approves them. |
| 19:24.12 | Patlabor221 | make a set of premade images avalable that they can composite |
| 19:24.18 | Patlabor221 | like logo parts |
| 19:24.31 | Patlabor221 | they chose position, scale, color, ect.. |
| 19:24.38 | TimRiker | I'd prefer that was outside the game... |
| 19:24.57 | Patlabor221 | and then all we send is the postion info |
| 19:25.08 | Patlabor221 | yes an external tool could be made to create the logo file |
| 19:25.10 | TimRiker | have the building blocks in cvs, but have a list of current images on the server displayed in the client. |
| 19:25.46 | Patlabor221 | this way you don't have to wory about sending new logo images to the clients as new people connect |
| 19:25.51 | TimRiker | mesh would specify a "location" which will include the scale. transparency should be supported. |
| 19:25.55 | Patlabor221 | just the info on how to composit the stuff |
| 19:26.25 | Patlabor221 | all 4 formats I suport can handle mulitple textures per model |
| 19:26.42 | Patlabor221 | so you could make one sub mesh have a app defined texture |
| 19:26.47 | Patlabor221 | actualy all textures are app defined. |
| 19:26.58 | TimRiker | there will be default generic team logos on any server. I expect new logos to be for clans and that there would not be a ton of them. ie: I do not expect to allow "MyFace.png" for any old player. |
| 19:27.03 | Patlabor221 | I'm just worried about the "geting of the texture" issues |
| 19:27.28 | Patlabor221 | ok so the server has the chosable list? or does the client? |
| 19:27.50 | Patlabor221 | and how do the players pick it? |
| 19:28.26 | Patlabor221 | also would it be ok to have completely difrent tank textures for each team color? |
| 19:28.32 | Patlabor221 | instead of just a geo color? |
| 19:28.48 | Patlabor221 | that's how the FPS games do it. |
| 19:29.04 | Patlabor221 | could get a lot more creative then |
| 19:31.40 | TimRiker | the client displays the list from the server. |
| 19:32.19 | Patlabor221 | in the server connect menu? |
| 19:32.42 | TimRiker | probably after connect and before join. |
| 19:32.51 | Patlabor221 | ahhh a new place :) |
| 19:33.20 | Patlabor221 | ok that will work then |
| 19:33.27 | Patlabor221 | be the resource gathering phase then |
| 19:33.57 | Patlabor221 | proalbly can use MACS MD5 cache stuff to see if we allaready have the image or nor. |
| 19:34.08 | TimRiker | right |
| 19:34.57 | Patlabor221 | then could make a wiki page with all known logos and file names. |
| 19:35.03 | TimRiker | I think the client would have a default mesh and a default logo as well as a desired mesh and logo. |
| 19:35.33 | TimRiker | if the server does not have the prefered, you revert. then you an change to a server included one on join or accept the presented one. |
| 19:35.35 | Patlabor221 | cilent could have a couple logos, default and probalby one for each team color. |
| 19:36.30 | Patlabor221 | what about complete texture replacements for each team? |
| 19:36.51 | Patlabor221 | the recolor thing is going to look realy bad when you start geting good textured models |
| 19:37.04 | TimRiker | perhaps. I'm open to that if the server admin can approve them. |
| 19:37.24 | Patlabor221 | they would have to be submited with each model |
| 19:37.48 | TimRiker | or for an exiting model. |
| 19:37.54 | TimRiker | er existing |
| 19:38.09 | Patlabor221 | if your gonna let each person chose a difrent model and send that model to the other clients then it may be wise to let the server spec the models too |
| 19:38.26 | TimRiker | yes, same plan. |
| 19:38.31 | Patlabor221 | could say that if there is a team texture use it, if not recolor. |
| 19:39.11 | Patlabor221 | would not want to allow joecheater to be able to upload a 1 tri model that noone can see. |
| 19:39.35 | TimRiker | you can upload any that are not on the server but only use the ones that have been admin approved. |
| 19:40.21 | Patlabor221 | you want the game to handle that? or that could be done via e-mail to server admin too |
| 19:40.41 | TimRiker | might as well have the game do it, but it's not a priority. |
| 19:40.54 | Patlabor221 | have like a "pending folder" |
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| 19:41.17 | TimRiker | I imagine a new team joining, auto uploading, an onlin admin approves and poof instant new mesh/texture/logo |
| 19:41.27 | Patlabor221 | common thing to do is if someone uses a model that you nor the server don't have it shows to the other clients as the default. |
| 19:41.43 | TimRiker | but the server should have a config item to allow/forbid uploads. |
| 19:41.59 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 19:42.18 | Patlabor221 | large upload could hurt gameplay on low BW systems |
| 19:42.53 | Patlabor221 | ok, gonna have to make a nice model manager then :) |
| 19:43.24 | Patlabor221 | hope I can get the GM finised up here soon, it does look realy neat to see these missiles tracking |
| 19:43.40 | Patlabor221 | MAC loves that I made them spin in there Y axis as they fly. |
| 19:43.44 | TimRiker | sounds cool. |
| 19:43.48 | TimRiker | neat |
| 19:44.02 | Patlabor221 | then the cow model replacement :) |
| 19:44.15 | captain_proton | jetcow? :) |
| 19:44.25 | TimRiker | heh. cream pie is next? |
| 19:44.31 | Patlabor221 | what ever you want :) |
| 19:44.34 | Patlabor221 | it's external |
| 19:44.38 | Patlabor221 | MOOOOF |
| 19:45.09 | TimRiker | let's get the tanks external even if they suck. others will work on them later. |
| 19:48.45 | sussudio | can someone ban dervish from bzboard? he can do his damn crossposting somewhere else. |
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| 20:04.19 | fiberchunks | I think I reduced it to one forum |
| 20:05.24 | captain_proton | he seemed so proud of himself for finding a bug |
| 20:07.17 | sussudio | i bet i know where he found his bug. where the sun don't shine. |
| 20:08.01 | fiberchunks | hasn't there been a long standing bug with map files > 32 k anyway? |
| 20:08.46 | sussudio | the question is: does anyone want to play maps > 20K anyway? |
| 20:10.28 | fiberchunks | I have no idea, as I don't know what most of the maps around are size-wise |
| 20:10.28 | TimRiker | well the server should know about the limits and not use one that's over. |
| 20:10.48 | sussudio | brooklyn bridge by bamf > 65K |
| 20:10.59 | fiberchunks | aieeee! |
| 20:11.10 | fiberchunks | how bout something like turkey (the old map) |
| 20:12.25 | sussudio | *shrug*. probably < 20K |
| 20:14.32 | sussudio | 13K even |
| 20:14.55 | sussudio | anything made by blind ambition's perl generator > 32K |
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| 20:20.44 | stibnite | uggh |
| 20:21.04 | stibnite | i have a player on my server named "Hitler" and another named "Osama bin Laden" |
| 20:21.08 | stibnite | lovely |
| 20:21.22 | sussudio | i've seen worse |
| 20:22.58 | TimRiker | note that the limit is probably NOT the .bzw filesize, but the binary world image size that get's sent over the wire. so comments have nothing to do with it. |
| 20:23.11 | TimRiker | check your world cache sizes to see the binary size. |
| 20:26.26 | sussudio | the biggest one i have is 12098 |
| 20:26.50 | sussudio | that's probably the new turkey one, it's rather unplayable big |
| 20:27.25 | stibnite | uggh |
| 20:27.45 | sussudio | ~bzfquery turkey.moongroup.com 7500 |
| 20:27.54 | sussudio | i assumed so |
| 20:28.03 | stibnite | windowed bzflag switching in and out of focus quickly caused mah system to crash. |
| 20:28.24 | stibnite | ~bzfquery bzflag.hashmark.net 17200 |
| 20:28.34 | stibnite | boo |
| 20:28.39 | sussudio | ~bzflist |
| 20:28.51 | sussudio | hmm. |
| 20:30.41 | TimRiker | woah, xmission's not on the list. |
| 20:31.51 | TimRiker | hmm. looks like the machine is down. that explains it. |
| 20:35.34 | Chestal | good evening |
| 20:36.41 | isfry | i have a 42KB map that loads fine but it is alot of shapes that are the same size and only has 8 teleporters |
| 20:44.33 | Patlabor221 | tim: that's my plan, to get the base tank external. after I finsh the GM. |
| 20:46.40 | Chestal | Pat: just keep in mind those poor guys with software rendering and low detail setting |
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| 20:49.23 | Patlabor221 | yes that's what we were talking about |
| 20:49.44 | Patlabor221 | loading a lower res model if one was avalable and the low quality option was on. |
| 20:49.59 | Patlabor221 | since it's external it's not too hard to do that. |
| 20:59.00 | Patlabor221 | and derv still hasn't reported his bug properly. |
| 20:59.15 | Patlabor221 | oh he did |
| 20:59.46 | Patlabor221 | tho dosn't seem that he gave us the map |
| 21:00.13 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 21:08.05 | [TeA|TrEE] | night all |
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| 21:35.35 | Chestal | MAC, Tim: alive? or anyone else who might care. I still haven't though tof something clever to add the /countdown functionality I need to CVS code |
| 21:39.18 | PerfectCell | where is my avocado? |
| 21:41.15 | PerfectCell | ~x en de avocado |
| 21:41.34 | PerfectCell | ~x de en Avocadobirne |
| 21:42.41 | PerfectCell | chuk a luck |
| 21:42.56 | PerfectCell | chocolate |
| 21:43.27 | PerfectCell | chopper |
| 21:44.14 | PerfectCell | ~rot13 chuck a luck chocolate chopper |
| 21:44.14 | | puhpx n yhpx pubpbyngr pubccre |
| 21:45.15 | PerfectCell | ~rot13 puhpx n yhpx pubpbyngr pubccre |
| 21:45.15 | | chuck a luck chocolate chopper |
| 21:45.20 | sussudio | cell: can you go back to gerbilstuffing or whatever you were doing earlier before you started abusing ibot? |
| 21:45.39 | PerfectCell | ~gerbilstuffing |
| 21:46.04 | PerfectCell | ~x en de gerbilstuffing |
| 21:46.33 | PerfectCell | lol |
| 21:46.36 | PerfectCell | got it |
| 21:46.49 | Patlabor221 | he's just looking for the kick or the ban, the pathetic pleasures of the greffer. makes them feel better then others. |
| 21:46.52 | PerfectCell | sussudio: a hard one |
| 21:47.16 | PerfectCell | ~x en de greffer |
| 21:47.33 | Patlabor221 | one who gives greef |
| 21:47.43 | Patlabor221 | aka BAKA |
| 21:47.43 | PerfectCell | ~x en de greef |
| 21:47.51 | PerfectCell | ? |
| 21:48.15 | Patlabor221 | one who prefers to make trouble and insult others as a source of entertainment. |
| 21:48.27 | PerfectCell | oh |
| 21:48.45 | Patlabor221 | aka You. |
| 21:48.58 | PerfectCell | oh |
| 21:49.01 | sussudio | http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=668164&node_id=20584 |
| 21:49.02 | PerfectCell | no |
| 21:49.17 | Patlabor221 | sure seems like yo do. |
| 21:49.45 | PerfectCell | i love elton john |
| 21:50.14 | sussudio | the words of a stuffer..... |
| 21:50.16 | PerfectCell | rockn roll |
| 21:50.49 | PerfectCell | is there anybody out there, or do i have... |
| 21:51.02 | PerfectCell | what song? |
| 21:51.47 | PerfectCell | little pinats |
| 21:52.24 | PerfectCell | seen ? :http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/ |
| 21:52.44 | Patlabor221 | yes, where did you steal the model from? |
| 21:52.53 | PerfectCell | mad my own |
| 21:53.09 | Patlabor221 | ahh that would explain the bland textures then |
| 21:54.47 | Patlabor221 | done in max? |
| 21:55.34 | PerfectCell | yeah |
| 21:55.53 | PerfectCell | how do you like the nunnel |
| 21:55.59 | PerfectCell | tunnel? |
| 21:56.06 | Patlabor221 | it's a tunnel |
| 21:56.18 | Patlabor221 | don't like the black faded ring you put around it |
| 21:56.20 | Patlabor221 | when you go in |
| 21:56.23 | PerfectCell | i exported it all with the supplied max script to cipher engine and it looks the same |
| 21:56.48 | Patlabor221 | gl is gl |
| 21:56.49 | Patlabor221 | it should |
| 21:56.50 | PerfectCell | oh the ring is not exported its just a light source atteched to the camera |
| 21:57.01 | Patlabor221 | still looks bad |
| 21:57.19 | PerfectCell | really? |
| 21:57.22 | PerfectCell | sad |
| 21:58.31 | PerfectCell | the skybox is from quake |
| 21:58.59 | PerfectCell | even though i had to smooth out the normals at the borders |
| 21:59.24 | Patlabor221 | why donsn't the skybox movie with the camera like a normal skybox? |
| 21:59.46 | PerfectCell | because its a techinical demo |
| 22:00.06 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 22:00.23 | Patlabor221 | Tim/Chestal: should I keep the med tank or the low tank as the low res one? |
| 22:01.16 | PerfectCell | use a PM |
| 22:01.28 | PerfectCell | with viedependent refinement |
| 22:01.33 | Patlabor221 | cell it's not a LOD thing |
| 22:01.41 | PerfectCell | texture? |
| 22:01.42 | Patlabor221 | it's a quality thing |
| 22:01.43 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 22:01.53 | Patlabor221 | software rendering |
| 22:02.00 | PerfectCell | ah |
| 22:02.01 | Patlabor221 | PM would take too much cpu |
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| 22:02.20 | PerfectCell | is that for a handheld? |
| 22:02.35 | Patlabor221 | any system that does not have hardware |
| 22:02.49 | PerfectCell | like mobile phones :) |
| 22:02.55 | Patlabor221 | like any systems |
| 22:03.04 | Patlabor221 | PCs with crap cards whatever |
| 22:03.08 | PerfectCell | cool play bzflag in wire mode |
| 22:03.13 | Patlabor221 | you don't play |
| 22:03.44 | Patlabor221 | still wire would not solve the xform issues just fillrate |
| 22:04.16 | Patlabor221 | presenly there are 3 levels of model deatil, the idea is to take it down to 2 |
| 22:04.23 | Patlabor221 | and make models external. |
| 22:04.32 | PerfectCell | that means? |
| 22:04.50 | Patlabor221 | not hard coded. |
| 22:05.02 | PerfectCell | ah ok |
| 22:05.07 | MrDoug | like how? one tank really blocky and the other really detailed? |
| 22:05.24 | Patlabor221 | the low tank has les polys |
| 22:05.26 | Patlabor221 | just like now |
| 22:05.28 | MrDoug | ah |
| 22:05.46 | Patlabor221 | I will be exporting low and mid tank in a bit to see how many they have. |
| 22:05.48 | PerfectCell | but what about the popping, PM uses geomorphs |
| 22:05.56 | Patlabor221 | cell it's NOT a LOD thing |
| 22:06.02 | Patlabor221 | no poping |
| 22:06.06 | Patlabor221 | no model changing |
| 22:06.12 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:06.17 | Patlabor221 | and there are lots of difrent ways to do PM |
| 22:06.21 | Patlabor221 | they all take CPU |
| 22:06.29 | Patlabor221 | CLOD is moslty usefull for teriain |
| 22:06.42 | Patlabor221 | it's use on object models has not been that conculsive |
| 22:06.56 | PerfectCell | 100k vertices on my athlon xp 1600+ in 1 sec |
| 22:06.58 | Patlabor221 | on most systems it takes more time to calc the LOD then it would to draw the tris |
| 22:07.15 | Patlabor221 | our models don't have 100k tris and I don't have a sec. |
| 22:07.20 | PerfectCell | in vertex split |
| 22:07.29 | Patlabor221 | model has maybe 350 tris |
| 22:07.39 | Patlabor221 | the spit overhead is more then the draw time. |
| 22:07.48 | PerfectCell | oh |
| 22:08.03 | Patlabor221 | its useufll when models are over 10k tris |
| 22:08.14 | Patlabor221 | but not a realy low count models |
| 22:08.30 | PerfectCell | what about geometry images |
| 22:08.52 | Patlabor221 | another silly notion for low poly models |
| 22:09.04 | PerfectCell | no why? |
| 22:09.08 | Patlabor221 | there is no need for an overly complex solution |
| 22:09.36 | MrDoug | hum, did you get external models working in bzflag? |
| 22:10.03 | Patlabor221 | I'm still betting that the cost of it's implementation is slower or the same then just drawing a model in a list. |
| 22:10.16 | Patlabor221 | doug, the GM is a model now |
| 22:10.19 | Patlabor221 | soon tanks. |
| 22:10.36 | PerfectCell | what game are you talking about? |
| 22:10.41 | Patlabor221 | BZFlag |
| 22:10.47 | MrDoug | ok doke |
| 22:10.49 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:10.49 | Patlabor221 | the one that this chanell is for |
| 22:10.54 | MrDoug | where is the model? |
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| 22:11.02 | Patlabor221 | on my hard drive. |
| 22:11.10 | MrDoug | hm |
| 22:11.15 | MrDoug | on the gamer |
| 22:11.18 | MrDoug | game* |
| 22:11.31 | PerfectCell | stuff time |
| 22:11.36 | Patlabor221 | in the models folder |
| 22:11.44 | MrDoug | hm |
| 22:11.53 | MrDoug | huh |
| 22:11.55 | MrDoug | the exe is gone |
| 22:11.57 | MrDoug | funny |
| 22:12.04 | MrDoug | ah |
| 22:12.09 | MrDoug | a OBJ file |
| 22:12.29 | PerfectCell | time to start my client again and kill some new levels i saw recently, very nice |
| 22:12.39 | MrDoug | lol |
| 22:12.59 | Patlabor221 | hope you don't try it on servers that are updated to CVS |
| 22:13.02 | MrDoug | what did you draw the model in? |
| 22:13.13 | Patlabor221 | lightwave |
| 22:13.24 | MrDoug | hm |
| 22:13.53 | MrDoug | do you have a OBJ file of the bztank? |
| 22:13.57 | Patlabor221 | and milkshape |
| 22:14.01 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:15.08 | Patlabor221 | www.bakakdigital.com/zero/test/flare.png |
| 22:15.17 | PerfectCell | milksahpe, repungnantly |
| 22:15.28 | Patlabor221 | it works well |
| 22:15.37 | MrDoug | bakak! |
| 22:15.44 | PerfectCell | for 10 polys, lol not more |
| 22:15.46 | Patlabor221 | bah you know what I mean |
| 22:15.52 | MrDoug | :) |
| 22:15.59 | MrDoug | must be hebrew |
| 22:15.59 | Patlabor221 | sure it won't do your insane counts |
| 22:16.12 | Patlabor221 | but it works for us who have realistic ideas |
| 22:16.31 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:16.35 | MrDoug | 2 of the fins are shorter |
| 22:16.46 | Patlabor221 | and it's opens more formats then max does :) |
| 22:16.56 | Patlabor221 | yes there was an export error in lightwave |
| 22:17.00 | PerfectCell | oh if done with this motaf***ng study i make the cow game rock |
| 22:17.14 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 22:17.19 | Patlabor221 | maybe you'll get your ban next time |
| 22:17.23 | Patlabor221 | good luck |
| 22:17.28 | PerfectCell | yup |
| 22:18.03 | MrDoug | so I could.... |
| 22:18.04 | MrDoug | hmm |
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| 22:19.33 | Patlabor221 | as you can now do |
| 22:19.38 | Patlabor221 | just make sure it's made outa tris |
| 22:19.52 | MrDoug | ? |
| 22:19.58 | MrDoug | no curves? |
| 22:19.58 | Patlabor221 | triangles |
| 22:19.58 | PerfectCell | shall i make a low poly tank model? |
| 22:20.01 | MrDoug | oh |
| 22:20.06 | MrDoug | no cows then |
| 22:20.08 | Patlabor221 | no quads |
| 22:20.10 | MrDoug | :) |
| 22:20.18 | Patlabor221 | you can have a cow just make sure it's tris |
| 22:20.27 | Patlabor221 | cell, a box with a barrel on it? |
| 22:20.27 | MrDoug | ah |
| 22:20.34 | MrDoug | lol |
| 22:20.39 | MrDoug | I could make that |
| 22:20.40 | PerfectCell | lol,better |
| 22:20.45 | MrDoug | 2 boxes and a tube |
| 22:20.50 | Patlabor221 | a box a ball and a barrel? |
| 22:20.52 | MrDoug | spector |
| 22:21.01 | MrDoug | hmm, tanks with a ball? |
| 22:21.07 | MrDoug | hmm, domed tanks |
| 22:21.09 | PerfectCell | i start now with modeling lets see how long i take, what output format do u like? |
| 22:21.20 | MrDoug | OBJ.. :) |
| 22:21.22 | PerfectCell | k |
| 22:21.24 | Patlabor221 | it reads obj, u3d, md3 or a3d. |
| 22:21.34 | PerfectCell | i make it obj |
| 22:21.48 | Patlabor221 | ok, you do so |
| 22:21.49 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:21.52 | MrDoug | what model? |
| 22:21.52 | PerfectCell | and yes i start with a box |
| 22:22.04 | MrDoug | a klingon ship, or tintins rocket? |
| 22:22.09 | Patlabor221 | sad, pmim modeling |
| 22:22.17 | Patlabor221 | prim modeling. |
| 22:23.11 | PerfectCell | how many tris should be the limit? |
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| 22:23.24 | Patlabor221 | there is no limit |
| 22:23.33 | Patlabor221 | but a normal BZ tank is about 350 |
| 22:23.42 | PerfectCell | k |
| 22:24.36 | Patlabor221 | perhaps I can get tim to let one be a default tank. |
| 22:24.45 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:24.52 | Patlabor221 | and gonna have to make team textures for each team |
| 22:24.59 | Patlabor221 | no more of this recolor crap. |
| 22:25.36 | MrDoug | kewl |
| 22:25.46 | MrDoug | so we could have each tank with a diferent logo on it? |
| 22:25.56 | Patlabor221 | that is one of the final plans |
| 22:25.59 | MrDoug | with like a big RED pasted on the side? |
| 22:26.02 | MrDoug | :) |
| 22:26.14 | Patlabor221 | no each tank can have it's own team color texture |
| 22:26.20 | Patlabor221 | then also a decal for a team logo |
| 22:26.26 | MrDoug | ah |
| 22:26.33 | Patlabor221 | so like all the red tanks would have the red team texture |
| 22:26.39 | MrDoug | yea |
| 22:26.43 | MrDoug | interesting |
| 22:26.44 | Patlabor221 | but if they wanted difrent team logs they could have those as well |
| 22:26.55 | Patlabor221 | the final idea is to have a server list of models |
| 22:27.07 | Patlabor221 | so each tank would have it's own "red" team texture |
| 22:27.17 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:27.22 | MrDoug | server list? |
| 22:27.31 | MrDoug | so we could share textures? |
| 22:27.41 | Patlabor221 | yes server specifies what models and team logos are avalalbe |
| 22:27.48 | MrDoug | cool |
| 22:28.01 | Patlabor221 | prevents greifers from submiting cheat models or vulgar team logos |
| 22:28.13 | MrDoug | indeed |
| 22:28.21 | MrDoug | models too? |
| 22:28.32 | Patlabor221 | did I just not use the word models |
| 22:28.55 | Patlabor221 | final plan is for each player to chose there tank model from a list |
| 22:28.58 | MrDoug | so if I wanted to make a logo with my face on it, would the server accept it? or would that be vulgar? |
| 22:28.59 | MrDoug | ah |
| 22:29.16 | Patlabor221 | you would have to submit it to a server admin for aproval. |
| 22:29.27 | MrDoug | ah |
| 22:29.32 | MrDoug | very neat |
| 22:29.43 | MrDoug | along with my own model, like a REAL tank |
| 22:29.45 | MrDoug | :) |
| 22:29.47 | Patlabor221 | of course this will all be in zero first |
| 22:29.55 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:30.09 | Patlabor221 | there should be a poly limit for models |
| 22:30.16 | MrDoug | bah |
| 22:30.17 | Patlabor221 | since others have to use it |
| 22:30.20 | Patlabor221 | not just you |
| 22:30.30 | MrDoug | cant there be a way of sorta clocking down the models? |
| 22:30.39 | Patlabor221 | proallby have a config option to use the default if a server model is over a certan count. |
| 22:30.48 | MrDoug | oh, cool |
| 22:30.57 | Patlabor221 | you can provide 2 versions, 1 high and 1 low. |
| 22:31.13 | MrDoug | bah, thats what I was gonna say |
| 22:31.15 | MrDoug | :) |
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| 22:31.18 | Patlabor221 | to make a full model you need the 2 models, and 5 textures. |
| 22:31.24 | MrDoug | ugh |
| 22:31.28 | MrDoug | alot of stuff |
| 22:31.38 | Patlabor221 | noone said modeling was easy |
| 22:31.54 | Patlabor221 | quake 3 commonly does 3 sets of LOD models |
| 22:31.58 | Patlabor221 | 4 team textures |
| 22:32.04 | Patlabor221 | at elast 1 default texture |
| 22:32.12 | Patlabor221 | and each model is 3 sub models |
| 22:32.24 | Patlabor221 | also you have to define the parts that the tank blows up in. |
| 22:32.33 | MrDoug | hm |
| 22:32.46 | Patlabor221 | the BZ tank is made of 5 parts |
| 22:32.50 | MrDoug | yea |
| 22:32.58 | Patlabor221 | the class will explode N parts |
| 22:32.59 | MrDoug | 2 treads, turret, barrel, and body? |
| 22:33.06 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:33.11 | MrDoug | so I could make it explode into like 50 parts? |
| 22:33.14 | MrDoug | :) |
| 22:33.18 | MrDoug | that would be impressive |
| 22:33.22 | Patlabor221 | if you defined 50 parts in the model yes |
| 22:33.27 | MrDoug | COOOL! |
| 22:33.38 | Patlabor221 | but that model would have lots of seams in 16 bit z buffers. |
| 22:33.45 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:34.15 | MrDoug | bah, how do I make a OBJ file out of a .MAX file? |
| 22:34.20 | Patlabor221 | export |
| 22:34.25 | MrDoug | cant |
| 22:34.28 | MrDoug | no option for OBJ |
| 22:34.41 | Patlabor221 | then you need the obj export plugin |
| 22:34.47 | MrDoug | oh |
| 22:34.50 | MrDoug | free? |
| 22:34.50 | Patlabor221 | nothing else reads max |
| 22:34.55 | MrDoug | humph |
| 22:35.04 | Patlabor221 | in it's closed format |
| 22:35.08 | MrDoug | yea |
| 22:35.12 | MrDoug | but still... |
| 22:35.18 | Patlabor221 | what can you export as? |
| 22:35.38 | MrDoug | about 20 diferent formats |
| 22:35.52 | Patlabor221 | and those are? |
| 22:35.57 | MrDoug | but nothing but autocad that milkshape supports |
| 22:35.58 | Patlabor221 | I can't read your screen man |
| 22:36.08 | Patlabor221 | 3ds? |
| 22:36.09 | MrDoug | found the OBJ plugin |
| 22:36.12 | MrDoug | no |
| 22:36.23 | MrDoug | yea |
| 22:36.24 | MrDoug | 3ds |
| 22:37.31 | MrDoug | bah |
| 22:37.56 | PerfectCell | model done |
| 22:38.19 | PerfectCell | 75 vertices 74 faces |
| 22:38.32 | MrDoug | kewl |
| 22:38.40 | Patlabor221 | must be a very nice box |
| 22:38.55 | Patlabor221 | milkshape reads 3ds |
| 22:38.57 | PerfectCell | oh cannot export to obj |
| 22:39.03 | PerfectCell | any other file? |
| 22:39.07 | PerfectCell | format? |
| 22:39.15 | Patlabor221 | u3d, md3 |
| 22:39.28 | PerfectCell | 3ds? |
| 22:39.29 | Patlabor221 | what kind of crap modeler won't do obj? |
| 22:39.30 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 22:39.34 | Patlabor221 | just those 2 |
| 22:39.37 | PerfectCell | 3d max |
| 22:39.44 | Patlabor221 | ahhh expesnice crap |
| 22:39.46 | Patlabor221 | get the plugin. |
| 22:40.02 | PerfectCell | i have milkshape |
| 22:40.13 | PerfectCell | it can read 3ds |
| 22:40.23 | PerfectCell | and export to all the others |
| 22:41.14 | Patlabor221 | there you go then |
| 22:41.34 | Patlabor221 | got a screen shot? |
| 22:41.46 | PerfectCell | shit milkshape expired |
| 22:42.01 | Patlabor221 | it's only $25 |
| 22:42.01 | MrDoug | lol |
| 22:42.04 | MrDoug | same for me |
| 22:42.18 | MrDoug | kewl |
| 22:42.42 | MrDoug | this plug can export OBJ files, and it automagicaly converts it to triangles |
| 22:42.44 | PerfectCell | only? you are joking |
| 22:42.51 | Patlabor221 | no, it's 25$ |
| 22:43.01 | MrDoug | lol |
| 22:43.10 | Patlabor221 | good program, for a good price. |
| 22:43.21 | PerfectCell | yes but where to get 25$ |
| 22:43.31 | Patlabor221 | that would be a job |
| 22:43.35 | PerfectCell | oh |
| 22:44.02 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:44.23 | PerfectCell | what about maya can it export to obj, i look |
| 22:44.35 | MrDoug | where do I put plugins? |
| 22:45.07 | PerfectCell | Maya unlimited, kewl |
| 22:45.35 | Patlabor221 | cell do you have a screen shot or render of your model? |
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| 22:45.52 | PerfectCell | yep may can export to obj, here we go |
| 22:46.00 | PerfectCell | maja |
| 22:46.04 | PerfectCell | maya |
| 22:46.16 | MrDoug | BAH! |
| 22:46.21 | MrDoug | where do I put these plugins? |
| 22:48.04 | PerfectCell | shit, how do i zoom the view in maya |
| 22:48.12 | MrDoug | glasses |
| 22:48.30 | MrDoug | bah |
| 22:48.34 | MrDoug | where DO I put plugins? |
| 22:48.42 | Patlabor221 | doug think |
| 22:48.56 | MrDoug | I tried plugins and stdplugins |
| 22:49.10 | Patlabor221 | do they have to be registered perhaps? |
| 22:49.16 | MrDoug | how? |
| 22:49.24 | Patlabor221 | ahh the joys of people who steal software |
| 22:49.24 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 22:49.32 | Patlabor221 | if you had manuals I'd say read them |
| 22:49.38 | Patlabor221 | noone here is gonna know |
| 22:49.45 | Patlabor221 | go look |
| 22:50.27 | MrDoug | huh |
| 22:50.36 | MrDoug | a plugin manager right in the program |
| 22:50.42 | MrDoug | imagin that |
| 22:51.00 | Patlabor221 | see what hapens when you do more then just get pissy and should, amazing isn't it? |
| 22:51.32 | PerfectCell | i still cant zoom the view in maya, i get crazy |
| 22:51.46 | MrDoug | squint |
| 22:52.06 | Patlabor221 | again I blame it on crap modelers |
| 22:52.20 | PerfectCell | got it |
| 22:52.32 | MrDoug | help file? |
| 22:53.18 | MrDoug | BAH! |
| 22:53.28 | MrDoug | the plugin wont work with this version of 3ds max |
| 22:53.41 | Patlabor221 | isnt' stolen software fun? |
| 22:53.47 | MrDoug | lol |
| 22:57.23 | MrDoug | huh |
| 22:57.30 | MrDoug | crossroads works |
| 22:58.17 | MrDoug | does the model have to be any particular size? |
| 22:58.37 | Patlabor221 | should be the same size as the thing your replacing |
| 22:58.41 | Patlabor221 | what are you replacing? |
| 22:58.51 | MrDoug | missle.OBJ |
| 22:58.57 | Patlabor221 | how large is that? |
| 22:59.01 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 22:59.02 | MrDoug | dunno |
| 22:59.11 | Patlabor221 | I think it's about 1 unit long |
| 22:59.17 | MrDoug | ah |
| 23:00.00 | PerfectCell | ok may can only import .obj so i made a picture: http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/quicktank.jpg |
| 23:00.30 | Patlabor221 | rather boxy |
| 23:00.34 | MrDoug | heh |
| 23:00.38 | PerfectCell | yes only 75 faces |
| 23:00.52 | Patlabor221 | won't exactly fit in the tank bbox |
| 23:01.02 | PerfectCell | i smooth it out |
| 23:01.59 | Patlabor221 | tank is roughtly 6x3x2 |
| 23:02.15 | PerfectCell | ah, k |
| 23:02.19 | PerfectCell | scale it |
| 23:02.28 | PerfectCell | nonuniform |
| 23:02.43 | Patlabor221 | that will screw your design |
| 23:02.45 | Patlabor221 | sad |
| 23:03.01 | MrDoug | hmm |
| 23:03.12 | MrDoug | how do I make sure the model has only tris in it? |
| 23:03.19 | Patlabor221 | depends on your model |
| 23:03.25 | Patlabor221 | modeler sorry |
| 23:03.50 | MrDoug | hm |
| 23:05.15 | Patlabor221 | don't forget to texture it. |
| 23:06.25 | MrDoug | in 3dsmax, how do I make sure the object dont have tris? |
| 23:08.02 | Patlabor221 | help file |
| 23:08.07 | MrDoug | huh |
| 23:08.14 | MrDoug | thats cheating |
| 23:08.17 | Patlabor221 | proallby something called ether triangluate or teselate |
| 23:08.21 | Patlabor221 | no asking is cheating |
| 23:08.26 | MrDoug | :) |
| 23:09.10 | PerfectCell | hmm, how do i remove th XRef scene |
| 23:09.21 | Patlabor221 | the what? |
| 23:09.22 | MrDoug | nothing in the help file |
| 23:09.43 | MrDoug | ~spell teselate |
| 23:09.45 | | possible spellings for teselate: tessellate desolate desolater testate tessellated tessellates teaseled desalt Tesla slate desolated desolates resealed resolute |
| 23:10.08 | MrDoug | Patlabor221: wow |
| 23:10.11 | MrDoug | in your dreams it will be textured |
| 23:10.12 | MrDoug | :) |
| 23:10.30 | Patlabor221 | no I just need to sit down and texture it |
| 23:10.37 | Patlabor221 | like I did for the mk3 |
| 23:10.39 | MrDoug | ah, that spelling is better |
| 23:18.27 | Patlabor221 | what are you replacing it with doug? |
| 23:18.32 | stibnite | anybody know where a young lady might find the old turkey map? |
| 23:18.43 | MrDoug | a HUGE ROCKET! |
| 23:18.45 | PerfectCell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/battle.jpg |
| 23:18.45 | MrDoug | :) |
| 23:19.12 | Patlabor221 | stats.bzflag.org has a large list of maps, there is also a maps section on the sourceforge site. |
| 23:19.47 | Patlabor221 | cell those tanks wold tip forwards. |
| 23:20.18 | PerfectCell | ~x en de cell those tanks wold tip forwards |
| 23:20.29 | PerfectCell | what? |
| 23:20.42 | Patlabor221 | they would be too front heavy |
| 23:20.47 | Patlabor221 | they would fall on there barels |
| 23:20.52 | MrDoug | hah |
| 23:20.58 | PerfectCell | ah, i know |
| 23:21.36 | PerfectCell | they are too big, gat to scale them |
| 23:21.39 | PerfectCell | down |
| 23:22.48 | Patlabor221 | what, terain that will make you not able to hit anything? |
| 23:23.18 | Patlabor221 | the game isn't designed for terain from a gameplay value |
| 23:23.28 | Patlabor221 | you could go play treadmarks |
| 23:23.50 | PerfectCell | hm i wanted to make a real planet |
| 23:24.08 | PerfectCell | big enough to make the curvature low |
| 23:24.15 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 23:24.20 | PerfectCell | funny |
| 23:24.31 | Patlabor221 | so everyone could drive around and never see anyone else? |
| 23:24.40 | PerfectCell | in my head it looks good :) |
| 23:25.03 | PerfectCell | but iquess it woul be not a big fun to play |
| 23:25.17 | Patlabor221 | ya think? |
| 23:25.39 | PerfectCell | dont know , maybe with choppers it would be cool |
| 23:26.03 | Patlabor221 | if it was real planet sized you could not go allway around it in less then a week |
| 23:26.06 | Patlabor221 | at normal speeds. |
| 23:26.15 | PerfectCell | lol |
| 23:26.23 | Patlabor221 | proabaly more |
| 23:27.14 | PerfectCell | or a moebius band surface, that has no orientation topologically |
| 23:27.21 | Patlabor221 | game design is more then just thinking of thinks that look cool |
| 23:27.34 | PerfectCell | so you dont know if some one i beneath you |
| 23:27.59 | PerfectCell | Patlabor221: i know |
| 23:28.07 | Patlabor221 | again why? would it be fun to play? |
| 23:28.45 | PerfectCell | because i would make pukers and other stuff that fires on you |
| 23:29.55 | Patlabor221 | ! stpd en pukers |
| 23:30.09 | Patlabor221 | ~ x stpd en pukers |
| 23:30.22 | *** join/#bzflag Ruudi (Sacha@80-235-71-182-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 23:31.10 | Patlabor221 | aww ibot is busted |
| 23:32.05 | PerfectCell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/puker.avi |
| 23:32.34 | Patlabor221 | and that's fun? |
| 23:32.37 | PerfectCell | it pukes a shot on the player that has most energy |
| 23:32.56 | PerfectCell | fun of coz |
| 23:34.22 | PerfectCell | oh if you shhot the puker it wont puke a shot on your party |
| 23:34.36 | PerfectCell | so you can manipulate them |
| 23:34.46 | PerfectCell | shot them twice and it stops puking |
| 23:34.55 | PerfectCell | lol |
| 23:34.56 | Patlabor221 | I would think it woudl get pissed and shot you more. |
| 23:35.09 | PerfectCell | possibility |
| 23:35.11 | Patlabor221 | so you would not want to hit them with stray shots |
| 23:35.28 | Patlabor221 | making it more of a strategy thing, then a munchking shot fest. |
| 23:36.06 | PerfectCell | it pukes the shot vertically so it flyes a parabola |
| 23:36.29 | PerfectCell | it cannot hit you if you are near it |
| 23:37.09 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 23:37.21 | Patlabor221 | doug show me your model? |
| 23:37.27 | PerfectCell | you remembe the ghost in super mario that are not moving if you look at them, that was great |
| 23:38.56 | PerfectCell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/tank.avi |
| 23:39.19 | PerfectCell | not my tank |
| 23:39.31 | PerfectCell | got it from 3d cafee or so |
| 23:39.36 | Patlabor221 | I gatherd that |
| 23:40.27 | PerfectCell | me too |
| 23:45.48 | PerfectCell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/tank3.jpg |
| 23:46.16 | PerfectCell | xtreme lowres |
| 23:47.15 | Patlabor221 | god I love the NSI installer |
| 23:50.01 | PerfectCell | http://home.in.tum.de/~edelstei/chopper.jpg |
| 23:50.05 | PerfectCell | just made |
| 23:50.35 | Patlabor221 | realy do like those box extrusions don't you? |
| 23:50.51 | PerfectCell | yeah, i love extrusions |
| 23:51.47 | Patlabor221 | that method dosn't quite work when you start doing stuff like this http://www.artemisgames.com/Hover1.jpg |
| 23:51.49 | PerfectCell | they are pretty easy to do |
| 23:51.57 | Patlabor221 | yup they are |
| 23:52.15 | PerfectCell | oh the model can be done with extrusion too |
| 23:52.28 | Patlabor221 | it's just a lot harder to do so like that |
| 23:52.38 | PerfectCell | little harder |
| 23:52.46 | Patlabor221 | there we go one updated bzedit |
| 23:53.01 | PerfectCell | whats new |
| 23:53.08 | Patlabor221 | bug fixes |
| 23:53.16 | PerfectCell | ah |
| 23:53.44 | Patlabor221 | IDs would get off on an object removal |
| 23:53.59 | Patlabor221 | 2 base colors were reversed |
| 23:54.20 | Patlabor221 | and the X scale on a Teleporter was 2x to large. |
| 23:54.34 | PerfectCell | nice |
| 23:54.56 | MrDoug | hm |
| 23:55.13 | MrDoug | haribo goldbaren |
| 23:55.16 | Patlabor221 | just bug fixes |
| 23:55.22 | Patlabor221 | nothing big |
| 23:55.25 | MrDoug | frichtgummi |
| 23:55.35 | PerfectCell | oh i go a mail: Eat pizza an loose weight, lol |
| 23:55.37 | MrDoug | hm, fruchtgummi |
| 23:56.10 | MrDoug | ~x de en fricht gummi |
| 23:56.18 | MrDoug | hum |
| 23:57.00 | PerfectCell | haribo macht Kinder froh und Erwachsene ebenso |
| 23:57.17 | MrDoug | lol |
