irclog2html for #bzflag on 20030128

00:00.02Patlabor221cus we have that exact same one here.
00:00.06bzdoug__uh huh
00:00.22Patlabor221www.bakadigital.com/music
00:00.22bzdoug__that key was from a file I had
00:00.26stibniteyo  bzdoug
00:00.28Patlabor221uping now
00:00.29stibnitehow _you_ doin?
00:00.32stibnitei hate qwest, btw.
00:00.39bzdoug__stibnite: hah, fine
00:01.20bzdoug__Patlabor221: hmm
00:01.30bzdoug__Patlabor221: what key gen is that yuo have?
00:01.38Patlabor221don't recall
00:02.33bzdoug__XP KeY ReCoVeRER AND DiSCOVErER 5.12 ?
00:02.40bzdoug__:P
00:02.44Patlabor221like I said I don't rcall
00:02.51Patlabor221I dont run it
00:02.54bzdoug__it also  does office XP and visio
00:02.55Patlabor221someone else does
00:03.05Patlabor221I'm very happy for it.
00:03.21bzdoug__he thinks highly of you too
00:03.38Patlabor221who dosn't? I am "THE MAN".
00:04.29Patlabor221you must have a very good arm then
00:04.39bzdoug__it only made it out to the fence
00:04.45bzdoug__but it was a good try
00:07.39*** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com)
00:07.54Patlabor221does that make doug a canibal?
00:09.08stibnitePatlabor221 is getting married?
00:09.15Patlabor221I am?
00:09.24stibnitewhats with the rice throwing?
00:09.27Patlabor221wonder who she is?
00:09.54stibnitePatlabor221: it's more fun to be surprised at the altar.
00:09.55Patlabor221and I hope she's nice.
00:10.01Patlabor221that's what I hear
00:10.06*** join/#bzflag trepan (trepan@CPE0040f42db082-CM00e06f15f704.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
00:10.12Patlabor221just as long as there isn'ta shotgun there too.
00:10.31stibniteat my altar i was surprised that the wedding planner had put very large plants on the groom's side, so large that neither i nor any of my groomsmen were at all visible
00:10.42Patlabor221LOL
00:10.44stibniteand i was in such a pretty dress, too. :(
00:14.56Patlabor221and thankfully I don't remember much about my weding.
00:15.04Jormungandrheh
00:15.27Patlabor221or even know where she is now.
00:16.11JormungandrI haven't seen my x-wife in 13 years.
00:17.47Jormungandrbeen in current relationship for 16 years this year.
00:19.53Patlabor221it's been almost 10years since that wedding for me
00:21.39Patlabor221why does noone know what a Patlabor is?
00:23.21Jormungandrwe are all stooopid.
00:23.22Jormungandr:)
00:24.27Patlabor221naw, probably just uninformed
00:24.39Patlabor221but if you wanted to know, I'm sure you could think of ways to find out.
00:24.48Jormungandrgoogle?
00:25.04Patlabor221see your not stupid
00:25.32Jormungandrhttp://www.bandaivisual.co.jp/patlabor/
00:25.33Jormungandr:)
00:25.39Patlabor221see your realy smart
00:25.57Patlabor221tho I haven't seen that movie yet, need to get the import.
00:26.44JormungandrI don't get too much anime exposure.
00:27.15Jormungandralthough, I like sakura, what little I saw, and a few of the japanese imports of it.
00:27.37Patlabor221sakura wars or card capter.
00:27.39Patlabor221?
00:27.41Jormungandrsakura (card captors)
00:27.44CaptainPistachioPatlabor221: nice anime smackdown :)
00:27.54Patlabor221ROBOTECH!!
00:27.59Patlabor221not that I don't like robotech
00:28.13Patlabor221but hell you can't put an ingram in space.
00:28.35Patlabor221that's one reason I like patlabor, the mechs are like soooo damned close to what we can make now
00:29.05Jormungandrannoys me... some guy, arcticfox, seems to think I think I am a norse myth expert, because I use callsign Nidhoggr on bzflag.
00:29.10Patlabor221if I could get some sytem that would autoballance a 35 foot biped, I'd be all over making one of those.
00:29.20Jormungandralso points out that "I spell it wrong".
00:29.37Jormungandrit has about half a dozen spellings
00:29.55Patlabor221and the right spelling is in another freakin alphabet.
00:29.57CaptainPistachioPatlabor221: MIT did a lot of work on biped robots
00:30.05Patlabor221so did honda
00:30.09CaptainPistachiothey use a "3d motion sensor" which acts sort of like the inner ear
00:30.11Patlabor221they don't have anything that larg yet
00:30.22Jormungandrjust having too much fun blowing stuff up to tell him that my expertise is in dragon mythology, because that's what I did my discertation in. :)
00:30.25CaptainPistachioso they can compensate for offbalancing
00:30.33Patlabor221see I need me one of those
00:30.43Patlabor221and the tig Welder
00:33.41bzdoug__~lart everybody but bzdoug__
00:34.08bzdoug__woo woo, 154 keys genorated, 3 valid keys found
00:35.30Patlabor221winders
00:35.56bzdoug__yea right
00:36.12Patlabor221cap is it me, or is duko an older pudgyer doug?
00:36.14bzdoug__they could starve, it isnt as if they are looosing money on me
00:36.23CaptainPistachioPatlabor221: probably so
00:36.34bzdoug__I dont drink beer
00:36.43CaptainPistachiobzdoug__: thats because he's older
00:36.49Patlabor221you will doug, you will.
00:37.02bzdoug__uh hu
00:37.08bzdoug__it tastes nasty
00:37.19Patlabor221nasty beer tastes nasty
00:37.30Patlabor221"bud" is not beer
00:37.36Patlabor221Miller lite is not beer
00:37.45bzdoug__good beer is only slightly better
00:37.49Patlabor221naw
00:37.56bzdoug__but still nasty
00:38.11bzdoug__(hic)
00:38.12Patlabor221well we know you won't sucumb to preer presure.
00:38.22Patlabor221since negitive presure zones don't push.
00:38.35sussudioand doug doesnt have any peers
00:38.37bzdoug__hah
00:38.45Patlabor221hence the negitive pressure.
00:39.02Patlabor221hell even here peer seems to boot him all the time.
00:39.30bzdoug__lol
00:40.18Patlabor221hmm seesm I'm 180% more popular then doug
00:40.50sussudio0 x 180 is still 0
00:40.59bzdoug__hows that work?
00:41.08Patlabor221yes but doug is negitive so I'm happy
00:41.31Patlabor221if you have to ask, you can't play the game.
00:42.30bzdoug__game>
00:42.32bzdoug__?
00:43.23Patlabor221bzdoug wrote the shortest lines, averaging 16.3 characters per line.
00:43.25Patlabor221wow
00:43.35bzdoug__lol
00:44.34Patlabor221why is bzgirl's name red?
00:44.47bzdoug__shes bad
00:44.53Patlabor221~sud
00:44.53shut up doug
00:45.08Patlabor221and some are blue
00:45.18bzdoug__good guys
00:45.37Patlabor221so Tim is not a good guy?
00:46.06bzdoug__with exeptions
00:46.45Patlabor221fiber? is he bad to?
00:47.01bzdoug__naw, only on fridays
00:47.19Patlabor221he set up my server on a friday.
00:47.32bzdoug__some fridays
00:48.30Patlabor221hmm I think I can make BZ doug be one setp less popluar
00:48.35Patlabor221sussudio how goes it?
00:48.52Patlabor221sussudio seen the pigs at the hekaman farm?
00:49.00Patlabor221sussudio don't you just hate cell?
00:49.06Patlabor221there that should do it.
00:50.04sussudioblue = male
00:50.06sussudioduh
00:50.16Patlabor221ahhhh
00:50.29Patlabor221so red is confirmed hottie.
00:50.42sussudiored = female
00:51.18Patlabor221can you make doug purple for "something else"?
00:54.38Patlabor221hmm I wonder if it's easyer to divx the anime and let Cap DL it, or jsut dupe the things with the burners.
00:55.37bzdoug__dupe
00:55.42bzdoug__and throw it at captain_proton
00:57.14Patlabor221if by throw you mean UPS then yes
01:01.15bzdoug__yea
01:04.21Patlabor221by the godess, there gonna put an anime movie, in american theaters, that hasn't been disneyfied.
01:04.37bzdoug__LOL
01:04.48Patlabor221and it's a good one
01:04.58Patlabor221a Realy REALY good one
01:05.04Patlabor221you even like the music from it doug.
01:05.12bzdoug__oh?
01:05.21Patlabor221the one with the egg
01:05.30bzdoug__cool
01:05.34Patlabor221cowboy beepop
01:09.48Patlabor221at least it's not the german sailor moon
01:09.58bzdoug__lol
01:10.24sussudioSCHWEINHUNDMOON
01:10.32Patlabor221realy?
01:10.41sussudio:-P
01:10.53Patlabor221that dosn't even look like something a girl would want to say.
02:15.06Jormungandrefnet == too_much_drama
02:19.16sussudiohttp://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/bigradar1.gif
02:19.23sussudiobigradar rul3z
02:19.36jacquesefnet == too many 14 year olds
02:19.51sussudiono, that's undernet
02:19.56sussudioefnet = 15 year olds
02:20.25jacquesah ok :-)
02:24.24*** join/#bzflag victorvdl (~victorvdl@ip183.125-173-207.eli-du.nwlink.com)
02:32.54Jormungandrheh
02:33.21JormungandrI used to admin on efnet, and then I left for a long time, and now I was asked to help out with a friend's server.
02:33.39Jormungandrbut I am about to /quit there permanently, I think.
02:37.42bzdoug__heh
02:40.26bzgirlmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `../../lib/libNet.a', needed by `../../bin/bzflag'.  Stop
02:40.33bzgirlthis isnt good?
02:41.22bzgirltrying to build cvs version on suse
02:42.03sussudioyeah i got that too yesterday
02:42.10sussudiodo make clean ; make
02:42.26bzgirlok
02:45.20bzgirlsussudio: still same error
02:45.36bzgirldo i need that libnet rpm maybe?
02:46.26sussudioworked for me yesterday....
02:46.52bzgirlg0 built fine
02:47.02bzgirlthe cvs wont
02:47.11captain_protonbzgirl: sure you got v1_7?
02:47.48bzgirli downloaded it from MACs site as i forgot the correct cvs command
02:48.22bzgirlhe has a link to the current cvs on his site i believe (tarballed)
02:48.45captain_protoncvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag
02:49.00bzgirlahh ok
02:49.11bzgirli always mess up those revision numbers
02:54.57bzgirlcaptain_proton: thnks, worked :)
02:57.55bzgirlbig radar!!
02:58.01bzgirlawesome guys
02:59.25sussudiokewl eh
03:02.05bzgirlyeah its amazing
03:02.10bzgirlctf dream come true
03:02.11jacquesbig radar?? where where??
03:02.44bzgirl<PROTECTED>
03:03.17jacquescool i gotta check that out
03:06.55sussudiojacques: http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/bigradar1.gif
03:08.11jacquescoool
03:09.59bzgirlhmm
03:10.01bzgirlsussudio:
03:10.16bzgirli can see my flag (green) out window
03:10.24bzgirlbut not on big radar
03:13.27sussudioerr?
03:13.34sussudiomaybe you turned flag on radar off
03:13.44bzgirloh
03:13.47bzgirli can do that?
03:14.01sussudioH and J
03:15.03bzgirlok
03:15.05bzgirlgot it
03:15.16sussudiok
03:16.04jacqueswhy would you want to do that?
03:16.20sussudiojacques: ever been on turkey.moongroup.com?
03:17.31jacquessussudio: many many times
03:17.45jacquesyou mean flags are distracting
03:17.51sussudiojacques: yes
03:17.52jacquesok I understand
03:18.10jacquesonce you hve a good flag, why be distracted by the ones on the radar
03:18.29jacquessorry I was still thinking in the CTF mode
03:24.31sussudioDon't you hate it when all your laundry is dirty and all you have is a megadeth tshirt and some weirdass purple sweatpants?
03:26.13jacqueslol
04:04.05*** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@mxfcl8x53.chesco.com)
05:38.28*** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d511328c.cable.wanadoo.nl)
05:42.23*** join/#bzflag sussudio1 (Suss@d511328c.cable.wanadoo.nl)
05:53.33*** join/#bzflag M_A_C (dbrosius@209.195.250.174)
06:22.14*** join/#bzflag paul (~paulj@s0.alphyra.bbnplanet.net)
06:28.22*** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-167-76-123.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)
06:31.20Patlabor221gahhh how hard is it for that man to report a bug?
06:31.27lurgymanduck?
06:31.53Patlabor221goose.
06:33.59Patlabor221what was the shot lim upped to in CVS?
06:34.46lurgymanohh god
06:34.58lurgymanthey made it easier for people to run crappy servers/
06:34.59lurgyman?
06:35.12Patlabor221so the MAC man sayeth
06:36.04Patlabor221I upped Zero to allow up to 40
06:36.14Patlabor221but we allready know it's crapy
06:36.24lurgymanshould have a max of 6 =)
06:36.59Patlabor221well with zero there are more ways to dodge, so it's not so much of a death fest with more shots
06:37.14Patlabor221plus I'm tweaking reload times on a per wep basis
06:38.03Patlabor221since every tank now has 3 weps that pull from the same "Shot pool"
06:39.00*** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@pop-be-14-1-dialup-85.freesurf.ch)
06:40.00MrApathyCreamhmm was wrong MaxShots is still 10
06:40.09MrApathyCreamat one point i thought tim made it 40, but i guess not
06:40.53MrApathyCreamduk is a peace of work, aint he?
06:40.57Patlabor221man
06:41.20Patlabor221bug + valid report = bug fixed
06:41.24Patlabor221end of story
06:42.23Patlabor221I think the bigest problem with most computers is users.
06:42.30MrApathyCreamheh
06:43.13MrApathyCream~uglystick GeoM
06:43.47Patlabor221noone has linufied it
06:43.56Patlabor221I tried some more but i"m stuck
06:44.27MrApathyCreamibot, linufied?
06:44.28the process of migrating code off of the bz platform of choice
06:44.37MrApathyCreamheh
06:44.53Patlabor221yeah
06:45.15Patlabor221windows = fish missile, lin = 365 warnings 3 errors
06:45.23MrApathyCreamooof
06:45.32MrApathyCreamwhat are the errors?
06:45.46Patlabor221link errors in ny new objects
06:45.58MrApathyCreamdid you add the new files to the make file :)
06:46.03Patlabor221yeah
06:46.07Patlabor221thye compile
06:46.22Patlabor221I added files to 2 sub projects
06:46.32Patlabor2211 of them uses a class in the other
06:46.38Patlabor221it says it can't find that code.
06:46.41MrApathyCreamthats the link error?
06:46.45MrApathyCream<that class>?
06:46.47Patlabor221yeah
06:47.00Patlabor221can't find the implementations of COSFile
06:47.16Patlabor221and I know it compiled, because it had errors that I fixed.
06:47.20MrApathyCreamis it complaining about particular methods or the whole class
06:47.28Patlabor221all the methods I call
06:47.32Patlabor221including constructor
06:48.55MrApathyCreamwhat two projects?
06:49.00MrApathyCreamand what direction is the dependency?
06:49.05Patlabor221platfrom and geo
06:49.27MrApathyCreamgeo relies on platform?
06:49.40Patlabor221geo now calls a class in plat
06:49.43Patlabor221since it loads a file
06:49.49Patlabor221and geo can load textures
06:49.54Patlabor221and texture is in plat
06:50.18Patlabor221everyone should have access to plat
06:50.45Patlabor221I'll bet I just mised a lib or something
06:51.00Patlabor221didn't have much time to look at it today
06:51.25Patlabor221was redoing company logo for our apps splash and background screens
06:52.54MrApathyCreamdunno, but looking at bzflag's makefile
06:53.06MrApathyCreamLLDLIBS =\
06:53.06MrApathyCream$(DEPLIBS)\
06:53.06MrApathyCream$(AUDIO_LIBS)\
06:53.18MrApathyCreammaybe geo's needs one that lists platform
06:53.22MrApathyCreamno clue
06:53.31Patlabor221that's what I was gonna look into next
06:53.46MrApathyCreamaltho, i believe net uses common
06:53.52MrApathyCreamand there's no such thing in net
06:54.14MrApathyCreamCan't you just bring up the dependency dialog and click some check boxes?
06:54.20Patlabor221I didn't have to add any links to the DSPs, but they may have just put plat and common for everyone
06:54.25Patlabor221I wish
06:54.28MrApathyCreamoh, yeah, this is *nix
06:54.36Patlabor221it's more then dependecy
06:54.40Patlabor221it's also the include libs
06:55.00Patlabor221but still at least there is a nice single place to list them for each project.
06:55.01MrApathyCreamyeah, but static libs, like you said, dsps don't care where the impls are
06:55.14Patlabor221yeah
06:55.26Patlabor221one would think you could make an IDE that worked off of makes.
06:55.28MrApathyCreamwhy does geom care
06:55.41Patlabor221the model class is in Geom
06:55.45MrApathyCreamYou might have to use a debugger then
06:55.47Patlabor221and it reads a file
06:56.08Patlabor221that file is an OSinspecific file class thats in plat
06:56.28Patlabor221since it would be stupid to redo model for each OS.
06:56.53MrApathyCreamYes, but for instance, network.cxx in net, uses ErrorHandler.cxx in common, yet there is no need for an import
06:57.11MrApathyCreamor any reference
06:57.11Patlabor221yeah, I dono why this wont work
06:59.57Patlabor221one would think a compiler as POWERFULL as gcc would be able to figure it out.
07:02.42MrApathyCreamyup
07:03.23Patlabor221maybe they need some sort of like development I dono "evnironement"
07:03.32Patlabor221may that had all the things integrated.
07:03.40Patlabor221then it would be a lot smoother.
07:04.43MrApathyCreamnow you're talking crazy
07:04.51Patlabor221i have been known for that
07:04.54MrApathyCreamgo rebuild your kernel as pennance
07:05.14Patlabor221opps gotta check my e-mail, I think I have to re-compile my kernel for that.
07:05.15captain_protonrebuilding the kernel is an ENJOYABLE ACTIVITY
07:05.25MrApathyCreamdid you try something as silly as deleting libGeometry.a and libPlatform.a?
07:05.32Patlabor221yeah
07:05.38Patlabor221went from a clean lib folder
07:06.21Patlabor221i'm sure I'm just missing something
07:06.22MrApathyCreamcaptain_proton: so what is Patlabor221's answer?
07:06.41Patlabor221I'll have to work on my psycic powers to figure it out tho
07:07.11captain_proton73.2
07:07.23Patlabor221in metric
07:08.05captain_protonmetric watts!
07:08.21Patlabor221and heisenberg compensated
07:08.32Patlabor221no, need kilos per furlong.
07:08.44MrApathyCreamand a henway
07:09.40MrApathyCreamibot, what's a henway?
07:09.44about 2 or 3 pounds.
07:10.07*** part/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.174)
07:10.07Patlabor221units that have an "OR" in them arn't reallly good you know.
07:10.15*** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.174)
07:10.40MrApathyCreamcappy, don't be a yute! what's the answer?
07:10.56captain_protonanswer to what?
07:11.08Patlabor221linkage
07:11.18MrApathyCreamPatlabor221: calls a class from geom in platform, and is getting link errors on the platform class code
07:11.19Patlabor221secondary platfrom and the lack therof
07:11.32Patlabor221no other way
07:11.38Patlabor221pat from geom
07:11.41captain_protonmake it extern in platform?
07:11.47captain_protonand non-static in geom?
07:11.54Patlabor221it's a classdeff
07:12.08Patlabor221I make an instance of it in geom
07:12.15Patlabor221I put the OSFile in plat
07:12.24Patlabor221I use one in the model class in Geom
07:12.32Patlabor221says it can't find the code
07:13.02MrApathyCreamwhy would a library NEED the code, anyway?
07:13.09MrApathyCreamthat's what libraries do
07:15.06Patlabor221wondder if geo is done before plat
07:15.25MrApathyCreamhmmm, go thunkin
07:16.06MrApathyCreamyes it is
07:16.14Patlabor221that may be an issue
07:16.18MrApathyCreambzflag/src/makefile
07:16.54MrApathyCreamheh, it was a dependency issue... click on them check boxes :)
07:17.08Patlabor221hmm no it's dieng in thelink in the bzflag project
07:17.11Patlabor221not the sub
07:17.29Patlabor221AnimMesh.o(.text+0x67f5): undefined reference to `OSFile::OSFile[in-charge](char const*)'
07:17.29Patlabor221AnimMesh.o(.text+0x6809): undefined reference to `OSFile::Open(bool, bool)'
07:17.29Patlabor221AnimMesh.o(.text+0x6817): undefined reference to `OSFile::GetFile()'
07:17.29Patlabor221AnimMesh.o(.text+0x6d34): undefined reference to `OSFile::Close()'
07:17.29Patlabor221AnimMesh.o(.text+0x6d44): undefined reference to `OSFile::~OSFile [in-charge]()'
07:17.30Patlabor221AnimMesh.o(.text+0x6d67): undefined reference to `OSFile::~OSFile [in-charge]()'
07:17.32Patlabor221collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
07:17.45MrApathyCreamyeah, i guess that was stupid
07:18.08MrApathyCreamlike i said originally, libraries have references to things that will be resolved later all the time
07:18.16Patlabor221yup
07:19.30Patlabor221seems most classes in BZ are just thrown out as globals
07:19.58Patlabor221or just imbeded in others
07:20.21Patlabor221don't see many uses of derivation
07:20.37MrApathyCreamscene.a references SceneNode class defined in obstacle
07:20.40Patlabor221that are more usefull then not having to redo code in each class
07:21.21Patlabor221do I have to tell it to "export" the class to the lib or anything?
07:21.44Patlabor221how do I tar up a folder?
07:22.06MrApathyCreamexport? can't imagine
07:22.30MrApathyCreamtar: use winzip
07:22.33MrApathyCream:)
07:22.47Patlabor221want to tar and post the latest stuff I messed with on lin
07:23.04MrApathyCreamyou would think there are nix-lurgers here
07:23.16Patlabor221proalby pissed them all off.
07:23.20MrApathyCreamheh
07:23.34MrApathyCreamnah, they like to be tortured.....
07:23.37Patlabor221with all our "clicky" talk
07:23.50MrApathyCreamsee above 'rebuild kernel'
07:24.08Patlabor221and by god if anyof them say manpage, I'm going to point them to the RSYNC manpage
07:24.17Patlabor221it's pathetic
07:24.22Patlabor221--help is better
07:24.30Patlabor221but still not a single damned example.
07:24.35MrApathyCreamheretic
07:25.10stibniteis there such a thing as a free legal policy template for a colocation provider?
07:25.31MrApathyCreami think hoda is mocking one up
07:25.45stibnitei need a GNU AUP
07:25.46stibnite:(
07:26.38MrApathyCreamPatlabor221: try putting an empty class in platform, and just create a var of that class in geom
07:26.50MrApathyCreamsee if that gets link errors
07:26.52MrApathyCreami bet not
07:28.24MrApathyCreammaybe name mangling on *nix uses a different seed for the algo based on the project ;)
07:28.47Patlabor221I don't see anyting like tht enywhere else
07:28.59MrApathyCreamdid you try an empty class?
07:29.05Patlabor221no
07:29.12Patlabor221fighting with tar
07:29.22MrApathyCreambrer-rabbit?
07:29.38Patlabor221tar -cz arc.tar.gz dir dosn't seem to be very happy
07:30.02MrApathyCreamare you on crack, PatLabor221
07:30.21MrApathyCream<immitating ibot>
07:30.24Patlabor221no but i'm realy realy tired
07:31.37Patlabor221wow geat OS here, lets me type in the file filter pulld downlist, even in the "all types" line
07:34.27Patlabor221gotta love apps that seems to have done nothing but are realy doing something
07:34.45Patlabor221I see
07:34.59Patlabor221how do I tar a folder?
07:35.09MrApathyCreamlast 4 days....
07:35.10MrApathyCreamPatlabor221 is talking to himself a lot. He wrote over 5 lines in a row 38 times!
07:35.10MrApathyCreamAnother lonely one was bzdoug, who managed to hit 12 times.  
07:35.10MrApathyCreamMrApathyCream couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 24 joins during this reporting period!
07:35.21Patlabor221ohh I've gone more then that
07:35.34captain_protonPatlabor221: tar -cz directory > directory.tar.gz
07:36.11Patlabor221odd how that's the oposet of the help on the app
07:37.24Patlabor221is it suposed to put a butt load of text on the screen that looks like uuencoded?
07:37.55Patlabor221�g3JztMU�S�
07:37.55Patlabor221*3f�ĶЀ~ӮksQ�˶ Hج�}TIe�ThkH�΋�C9�lٴ}W_MӀ42߬E�g
07:37.55Patlabor221�s-{Sv�YEM+�m�'�"ag.���igo�R]
07:37.55Patlabor221<PROTECTED>
07:37.55Patlabor221[JeffM@Moljenor JeffM]$ 1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2
07:38.01Patlabor221;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c1;2c
07:38.10stibnitehmmm
07:38.23Patlabor221i'm guessing that's a "NO"
07:38.34MrApathyCreamheh
07:38.42captain_protonPatlabor221: REDIRECT
07:38.45captain_protontar -cz directory > directory.tar.gz
07:38.48captain_protonyou need the >
07:39.03Patlabor221got it
07:39.24Patlabor221thanks
07:39.37MrApathyCreampipe that into the compiler, can't be anyworse
07:41.53Patlabor221upping tarball to www.bakadigital.com/zero/test/ now
07:42.01Patlabor221will be done in 3 min
07:42.15Patlabor221if anyone wants to look at it just get the latest gz file tehre
07:43.36Patlabor221at least GFTP looks like wasFTP
07:43.42Patlabor221or wsFTP
07:43.58Patlabor221bet one was a port of the other
07:44.57Patlabor221is it cold?
07:44.57lurgymanweatherman!
07:45.16Patlabor221file uploaded for those who want to see it's glory
07:45.18lurgymanPatlabor221: that's is it cold Group Command Spotlight Chief Master Sargeant Kuester Sir!
07:46.07Patlabor221well I'm off to bed as well
07:46.09Patlabor221see ya
08:57.16*** join/#bzflag Pinguin (~Pinguin@pc212.hf.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de)
09:09.14*** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@pop-be-14-1-dialup-85.freesurf.ch)
09:29.55*** join/#bzflag bomber (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de)
09:30.00bombermoin
09:48.28*** join/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@p50882E42.dip.t-dialin.net)
09:50.11ak|rahi
10:00.40*** join/#bzflag bomber (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de)
10:00.43bomberre
10:38.25Chestaltag
10:38.49ak|rahi
10:39.38ak|raahnung von bashscripten?
10:40.07Chestalnaja, geht so
10:47.04ak|ragroesse eines arrays?
10:52.35ak|raah, habs
10:56.13Chestalarrays? wusste gar nicht, dass es sowas in sh/bash gibt :-)
10:57.21ak|rada gibts alles
11:00.37Chestalfehlt nur noch OO
11:02.22ak|ra:)
12:06.00*** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@pop-be-14-1-dialup-85.freesurf.ch)
12:25.20*** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~somewhere@0x50c4919b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk)
12:26.25Chestalhi
12:26.38[dmp]hi
12:30.05[dmp]Chestal: do you mind, if i pool data once each min from ducatictf ?
12:33.57Chestalshould be ok
12:36.19[dmp]Great. It seems that the list works now.
12:36.44Chestalhow do you evaluate the score change now?
12:37.37[dmp]Captures? The same as before, except i check if there is a "old player" (from last observation) with equal or bigger score.
12:41.50ChestalI mean the formula
12:46.14[dmp]i changed the 50 to 20 in the diff calulation ($diff = 20 * ($score-$prob);).
12:47.01Chestaland the result is applied to each player?
12:47.28[dmp]the skills of the teams equals all members skills. This is divided by the max number of players before it goes into the formula.
12:47.43[dmp]the result, diff, is splitted between the members.
12:48.09Chestallooks ok at first sight
12:48.17Chestallots of people in the list
12:48.26[dmp]yes
12:48.26ChestalIwonder why calico is near the bottom :-)
12:48.32[dmp]i do too :)
12:48.39[dmp]that's my next item.
12:50.54[dmp]rembo was abit concerned about privacy if i show the data based for calculation. (then you can show who played when.. not good info if a boss gets the list).. but then again, i think everything is public information. I just store it for longer time than most do.
12:52.34ChestalCalcs is the number of observations where that player was active and the team score changed? 1 calc coudl actually include more than 1 capture?
12:52.48Chestaland points is good captures - bad captures?
12:53.27[dmp]points: correct
12:53.35[dmp]calcs: is 0 or 1 captures
12:53.58[dmp]no
12:54.02Chestalbut CapN has 83 Calc and 85 points
12:55.38[dmp]calc is incresed by one, when the account when score have been modified.
12:56.47[dmp]hmm
12:58.30fontenotany of you modellers have an opinion on ac3d? http://www.ac3d.org/
12:58.49fontenotI'm looking for a linux modeller but not sure I want to go as heavyweight as blender
13:03.36[dmp]Chestal: You seem to be a very brigthminded-guy :)
13:04.50Chestaldmp: uh, what makes you think that? I'm just a little mole
13:04.59Chestal(and a hungry one right now)
13:05.07[dmp]You aint blind, that's for sure
13:05.19[dmp]The points wasnt correct.
13:05.58[dmp]If a observation saw a 2 points diff, it would interate two times. Adding two points to the players score, twice.
13:07.56ChestalI guess the list should be filtered, requiring a minimum number of calcs or something?
13:08.28[dmp]Yes, I think too. But can't decide how many would be good.
13:08.29ChestalLisaJ is an interesting case
13:08.45[dmp]wow
13:08.47Chestaldid get a lot of score for capturing when it ws 1 vs 2
13:08.58ChestalI assume that theother team was not playing or onlyplaying with 1 player
13:09.38ChestalI wonder if it would be a good idea to not count unless both teams have at least 3 players, difficult to say
13:10.24[dmp]Perhaps the script only should consider members which is active, instead of all players (including paused on)
13:10.40[dmp]if the won+lost goes up, they're active. If not , they arent.
13:10.52[dmp]might give problems as well :-\
13:11.09Chestalyou'll always have inaccuricies
13:11.30Chestalbut when few people are on, people often do not really flag or one of them will pause
13:13.56[dmp]yes.
13:14.27[dmp]but 3vs3 with one pausing would also be a problem.
13:14.55[dmp]it would be nice to know how long a tank can drive on the battlefrield in normal battle, without hitting tanks or getting hit.
13:17.33[dmp]anyway, it seems that all player have gotten killed or killed in LisaJ's case, so it woudnt make much difference.
13:23.58*** join/#bzflag bomber (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de)
13:39.50*** join/#bzflag isfry (~Fry@65.168.86.30)
13:43.32*** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@mxfcl1x29.chesco.com)
13:52.02*** join/#bzflag bomber_ (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de)
13:52.07bomber_re
14:17.59*** join/#bzflag M_A_C (dbrosius@mxfcl5x88.chesco.com)
14:21.18*** join/#bzflag MrAC (dbrosius@209.195.250.9)
14:25.36*** join/#bzflag MrCooper_ (~daenzer@pop-ls-7-1-dialup-221.freesurf.ch)
15:00.24*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@24.156.129.90)
15:00.35bzgirlhello
15:01.02Secret_Hamsterhi <insert your nick here>, how are your how's the <wife/dog/hamster/kids>.  I'm fine, yea really
15:01.56bzdoug__hi <insert your nick here>, how are your how's the <wife/dog/hamster/kids (goats?)>.  I'm fine, yea really
15:03.10Secret_Hamstercould be no idea.  just sprung into my head on day
15:21.45*** join/#bzflag fiberchunks (~c72ec6e8@203.194.240.139)
15:57.00*** join/#bzflag Phactorial (~Phactoria@212.46.36.96)
16:29.05*** join/#bzflag MrAC (dbrosius@mxfcl5x93.chesco.com)
16:31.07[dmp]Hi bzdoug__
16:31.12[dmp]and bzgirl :)
16:32.55bzgirlhi
16:45.28*** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d511328c.cable.wanadoo.nl)
16:47.11*** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214)
17:09.30*** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133)
17:15.12*** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@pD9E5053F.dip.t-dialin.net)
17:15.20Celllo
17:18.20Cell~google for winged edge
17:23.54Cellquak
17:34.52*** join/#bzflag daniel_v1234 (~dave@212.204.35.114)
17:37.16*** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@aden2-123-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)
17:54.59*** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@aden2-123-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)
18:17.20*** join/#bzflag lurgyman (~lurgyman@aden2-123-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU)
19:07.51*** join/#bzflag chat (~d8088357@203.194.240.139)
19:09.37*** join/#bzflag ak|ra (akira@titania.cs.uni-magdeburg.de)
19:09.39ak|rahuhu
19:09.44bzgirlhi ak|ra
19:10.34ak|raibot: ducati
19:19.48sussudio~sud
19:19.48shut up doug
19:21.05bzdoug_REDUNDENT!!!?!?!?
19:21.08bzdoug_bah
19:22.54sussudiopig
19:23.11bzdoug_swine
20:30.32scanlineIf you dot a function's gradient with a unit vector, shouldn't that give you the directional derivative along that vector?
20:42.32*** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E9551B.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:42.32[TeA|TrEE]hello
20:42.40[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
20:42.46[TeA|TrEE]~ducati
20:42.47bzgirlhi tea
20:56.33*** join/#bzflag scan[ibook] (~micah@ec237-49-dhcp.Colorado.EDU)
20:56.56*** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com)
20:57.01Chestalhi calico
20:57.04calicohi
20:57.09calicohows it goin
20:57.11calicog
20:57.17Chestaloh, always the same I guess
20:57.35calicoyep, me too..no complaints...then again no one listens anyway
20:57.37Chestalbz:e won their 2nd match today
20:57.44calicoagainst who
20:58.07bzgirlpenguins
20:58.26calicobips tied us yesterday 2-2, it was a really tough match......OMFG REALLLYYY
20:58.36bzgirlyup really
20:58.45calicowow, thats awesome for them what was score
20:58.47bzgirlTermis best effort yet i thought
20:59.14calico2v2
20:59.42bzgirlyes
20:59.46bzgirl5-1
21:00.34calicodid anyonw see the match tlz vs how yesterday?
21:00.41calicoanyone i mean
21:01.05calicothe one that was 8-0 tlz
21:02.01calicoi guess that means no :)
21:02.10bzgirlwho is Terra?
21:02.15bzgirli never saw him
21:02.19bzgirlbefore.
21:02.26calicoits mirella
21:02.30bzgirlahh
21:02.56bzgirlforgot she was on your team
21:03.07calicois mirella a she
21:03.24bzgirlyep
21:03.27calicobecause i asked before and she said she was a he and
21:03.29[TeA|TrEE]lalala
21:03.33bzgirl"a she"
21:03.33[TeA|TrEE]calcio!
21:03.38calicoyes
21:03.38[TeA|TrEE]5155
21:03.41[TeA|TrEE]~ducati
21:03.43calicono way
21:03.46[TeA|TrEE]is TERRA
21:03.46bzgirlreally?
21:03.48calicotheres flags there
21:03.48[TeA|TrEE]was
21:03.51[TeA|TrEE]yes
21:04.44calicocool a flagless 5155 now
21:04.53calicoterra's not there
21:05.58ak|ra:)
21:06.03calico:P
21:06.33[TeA|TrEE]la
21:06.37calicoyeah before when i asked mirella if she was he or she, he said he was a he and mirella was a she
21:06.44calicoso im not sure what that ment
21:06.59calicomeant
21:07.33sussudiobamf is a very very sore loser
21:08.16calicodont shoot him than :P
21:08.25sussudiohe can play with himself
21:23.32*** join/#bzflag sussudio1 (Suss@d5113272.cable.wanadoo.nl)
21:25.00*** join/#bzflag Pig (~Piggy@d5113272.cable.wanadoo.nl)
22:03.47*** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133)
22:30.38*** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@rikers.org)
22:31.17*** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ
22:59.07*** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com)
23:01.13calicoibot seen dmp
23:01.13calico: i haven't seen 'dmp'
23:01.21calico:(
23:01.55TimRiker~bzflist
23:02.24TimRikeronly 3 on xmission. wow.
23:02.36calicois that bad
23:03.52jraitalahello
23:11.33*** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com)
23:11.46calicoanyone feel like reffing a match
23:12.04sussudionot me.
23:12.06calicoif so please come to 59999
23:12.10calicook
23:12.39*** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
23:12.39*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@24.156.129.90) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
23:12.39*** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~somewhere@0x50c4919b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
23:12.39*** join/#bzflag snyke (~snyke@62.245.214.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
23:13.01bzdoug_I fixed it
23:25.31Jormungandrwell, server is built... installing new OS after work.
23:26.07Jormungandrthen it moves to rack tomorrow afternoon.
23:27.58*** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@209.195.250.220)
23:30.12MrApathyCreamibot, linufication?
23:30.13wish i knew, MrApathyCream
23:30.22MrApathyCreamibot, linufied?
23:30.22the process of migrating code off of the bz platform of choice
23:35.55bzdoug_~dict linufication
23:36.00bzdoug_huh
23:36.32MrApathyCream~dict linufication
23:36.44MrApathyCreamibot, linufication?
23:36.44the process of migrating code off of the bz platform of choice
23:36.59MrApathyCreamwow
23:37.18MrApathyCreamibot, boo is <reply> hoo
23:37.19...but boo is already something else...
23:37.27MrApathyCreamibot a is <reply> b
23:37.27...but a is already something else...
23:37.31MrApathyCreamarg
23:37.36MrApathyCreamibot aa is <reply> bb
23:37.37...but aa is already something else...
23:37.40MrApathyCreamarg
23:37.49MrApathyCreamibot xx is <reply> yy
23:37.50...but xx is already something else...
23:38.02MrApathyCreamibot abc is <reply> bcd
23:38.03okay, MrApathyCream
23:38.06MrApathyCreamphwe
23:38.14MrApathyCreamibot cba is <reply> see abc
23:38.14...but cba is already something else...
23:38.24MrApathyCreamibot dcb is <reply> see abc
23:38.25okay, MrApathyCream
23:38.29MrApathyCreamibot, dcb?
23:38.29bcd
23:38.34MrApathyCreamcool!!!
23:41.10MrApathyCreamibot, forget abc
23:41.10i forgot abc, MrApathyCream
23:41.17MrApathyCreamibot, dcb?
23:41.38MrApathyCreamibot forget dcb
23:41.38MrApathyCream: i forgot dcb
23:44.46sussudio~dougify
23:44.47slick!
23:56.51MrApathyCreamsussudio: some strings for ya
23:57.36MrApathyCream(in cvs)
23:58.14*** join/#bzflag scan[ibook] (~micah@ec237-49-dhcp.Colorado.EDU)
23:58.28sussudiowhoopee.
23:58.46MrApathyCreami knew you'd be thrilled

Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with blootbot logs, split per channel, etc.